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Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.

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Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« on: November 22, 2018, 09:25:22 AM »
I find my starts are probably average at best. What I do at starts is, car in neutral, left foot on the brake, right one on throttle keeping revs up when the lights come on.
When the lights go off I engage 1st gear and take the foot off the brake...no clutch involved. Is that what everyone is doing?
Can you engage 1st gear having your foot on the clutch before the lights go off? I checked the Mazda 787 and it seems it doesn't even start rolling on a hill when having your foot off the brake but one on the clutch. So it seems you don't need the brake and it's possible having 1st gear in and one foot on the clutch and one on throttle.
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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 11:03:39 AM »
I always start in gear, with cluch, it's definitely working.  The car may roll, though.   So keep your right on the brake until the last of lights to avoid false starts.

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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 11:35:04 AM »
I too start in gear, with clutch depressed. I don't brake before the lights, and I don't think I have ever rolled.
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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 12:48:14 PM »
I too start in gear, with clutch depressed. I don't brake before the lights, and I don't think I have ever rolled.

Hm...maybe I remember wrong?  Or maybe once you press the brake it disengages some auto-brake?  I'll try your method to be sure, but you'll have to get me off the hook if I get a false start :D

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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 12:59:33 PM »
I've never rolled forward and I never use the brake on the start. I just have my clutch in and get my revs up and when the lights go out then I drop the clutch. Depends on the car, some cars I ride the clutch a bit but I certainly never use the brake.

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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 01:31:17 PM »
I always start in gear, with cluch, it's definitely working.  The car may roll, though.   So keep your right on the brake until the last of lights to avoid false starts.

AC has a sort of automatic hand-brake at low speeds. it won't roll on the grid.

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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2018, 01:33:21 PM »
It varies by car. Some cars with a built in auto-clutch can roll while in gear, if I remember correctly.
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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2018, 02:55:48 PM »
Ok, thanks guys. I'll do that...will hopefully work a bit better.

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Re: Race start using clutch...when to engage gear etc.
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2018, 07:45:15 PM »
I completely agree that clutch down, revving in gear is best. Clutch control is hard in AC, but if you find the biting point and let it go slowly it can help a lot on cold tires.