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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 05:30:35 PM »
We discovered on Thursday with dodgy setups with raised fronts and low rears the cars are a lot faster on the straights,  well its not really dodgy but apparently the heights in AC mean nothing,  seanus could explain more, but anyway I am starting to think AC is not as spot on as I thought regarding been realistic if you can do setups you would never do in a real car to go faster.

Admittedly the car on Thursdays is a mod car, but a pretty good one I think, but gaining 10-15 kph just by changing heights doesn't seem right or realistic to me and if heights don't mean anything who know what the other setup changes really do change
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2019, 06:03:32 PM »
The Formula Ford had 10o of rake in it's aero.ini, which I can't think why. That's why nose up tail down worked so well,
These GPL cars have 0o of aero rake so getting a ride height to minimise drag is possible.
The difficulty is that the ride heights are not enough to go by. If you are going for minimum drag you need to test each setup by driving and noting the range of the body's angle of attack.(use the wings app) Aim to avoid any negative rake on the throttle. Between 0o and 2o of rake will give minimum drag. Going either side of that increases drag with going negative being a lot worse.
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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2019, 06:24:26 PM »
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes. I think I'm doing not so bad in the curvy area, but top speed is a problem for me as the Eagles are so much faster...in the areas where overtaking is actually possible....then take slip stream into the equation...yeah, not good at all.
Well, I'll try the Lotus later today and see if I can get that one it a bit faster. With the Ferrari I'm at my wits' end...and skills of course ;-)

So why should I use kcender as a reference again? It seems you've had quite a break from sim racing (may have raced elsewhere, dunno), "...just had the chance to do a bit of practice", then the shifter issue on top...yeah, don't really get it ;-)
I can only get 309km/h in the eagle after many attempts . . so with those extra 2km/h I will blow past you! :) :)
Haha...with the Eagle I get to 310 twice...with the Ferrari I'm getting to 306/307 on the first straight and then 303/304 on the 2nd. I guess, if I have a Eagle behind me adding slip stream the difference in speed will be enough to not have any chance to defend my position. Then back in the stadium you can probably forget about overtaking anyway :-)

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2019, 06:52:29 PM »
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2019, 08:20:30 PM »
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
I'm running the highest 5th gear in the eagle and the revs are maxed out well before the end of the straight . . . . there's no more! :'(

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2019, 08:47:54 PM »
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.
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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2019, 06:32:00 AM »
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
I'm running the highest 5th gear in the eagle and the revs are maxed out well before the end of the straight . . . . there's no more! :'(

That could be why the eagle looks to gain time on the straights but doesn't have a higher top speed - it gets to its top speed quicker.

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2019, 07:14:32 AM »
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.
You can't turn slipstreaming on or off on the server.


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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2019, 10:15:04 AM »
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.

Can confirm slipstreaming works, got to 318 at one stage. Much faster than the wheezy Honda can push the car along on its own.

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2019, 03:44:31 PM »
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.

Can confirm slipstreaming works, got to 318 at one stage. Much faster than the wheezy Honda can push the car along on its own.

Yep, I found another 10kph in the Lotus if I got within a second of the leading car

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2019, 06:03:35 PM »
Server's up.
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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2019, 06:45:21 PM »
Downloading the mod again but was getting checksum errors last night and today. Already re-downloaded the track

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2019, 06:59:27 PM »
Have you got Seanus's extra pits mod?
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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2019, 07:09:26 PM »
Qual starts at 8:30 right?

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Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2019, 07:15:03 PM »
Sorry, won't make it tonight. Computer is dead  :(