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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2019, 04:40:46 PM »
.... I think is good enough for a fun run.

Three or Four even.
The answer: -80538738812075974³ + 80435758145817515³ + 12602123297335631³ = 42

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2019, 04:44:26 PM »
I'll try and get a run in at Charlotte tonight.
Then Sonoma, maybe tomorrow. ;)
Have you got Sonama from NAGP yet? I'm not sure it's out yet,but Lilski's meant to have sorted the physics mesh.
And use Charlotte, my version, not 'Mountain Peak'. Same track just took out all the bloody fencing and moved the Roadcourse start/finish so the AI have enough time to see the first corner.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 04:46:55 PM by GzeroD »
The answer: -80538738812075974³ + 80435758145817515³ + 12602123297335631³ = 42

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2019, 05:07:21 PM »
On a bumpy track like Charlotte or high G track like Bristol, give the car enough spring that it's not sitting down on the bumpstops\packers. Use the 'SusTelemetry' app to see this.
The car seems to have a rear end budget and when it runs out, whack you get oversteer you can't get out of. I think damping could stop the budget being spent and keeping the car off the bumpstops saves cash too.
The answer: -80538738812075974³ + 80435758145817515³ + 12602123297335631³ = 42

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2019, 07:39:00 PM »
A road setup will definately take more time, it is loose!
Here's my Charlotte set, 33.541 (non-optimal conditions)

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2019, 09:40:17 PM »
33.150 edit: with AI, I might be getting a tow.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 09:42:46 PM by GzeroD »
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2019, 03:32:26 PM »
Great setup Bacchulum, these will be a lot of fun, thanks Seanus 8).
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2019, 03:41:56 PM »
I'm away this week so whatever you do don't start an oval season this week  8)  Really looking forward to doing some left turns. May some right ones as well if we go against the flow!

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2019, 04:34:00 PM »
....take more time, it is loose!
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Rear Roll Centre maybe?

To adjust see in bold below: CoG Rear is 560mm  RC is half way between the values in bold so in this case -100mm below diff height, diff height is at wheel radius which equals 410mm, so final Rear RC = 310mm


J0=left truck arm
J1=right truck arm
J2=longitudinal link
J3=panhard bar

[AXLE]
LINK_COUNT=4

J0_CAR=0.100,-0.180,1.33                     ; car bottom left arm.
J0_AXLE=0.500,-0.180,0.148                  ; tyre bottom left arm.

J1_CAR=-0.100,-0.180,1.33                    ; car bottom right arm.
J1_AXLE=-0.500,-0.180,0.148                ; tyre bottom right arm.

J2_CAR=0.0,-0.180,1.33                ; car top right arm.
J2_AXLE=0.0,0.020,0.180              ; tyre top right arm.

J3_CAR=-1.0,-0.050,-0.08            ; panhard bar car.
J3_AXLE=1.0,-0.150,-0.08           ;panhard bar axle.


TORQUE_REACTION=-0.123

ATTACH_REL_POS=0.0

LEAF_SPRING_LAT_K=0


I think I managed to calculate the Front RC and it was on the ground and going down.
I redid the front suspension so Front RC is about 200mm and I've adjusted the Rear RC to be 310mm.

See how you go.
Pls redownlaod for the new version.
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2019, 09:43:24 PM »
The only Road course these cars ran at was Riverside.
I'll do testing there.
Also test at:
Charlotte
Bristol
Martinsville
Daytona

For a season we could choose from the following:
Riverside Nascar
Bristol
Martinsville
Charlotte Oval
Charlotte RC
Daytona Oval
Daytona Moto RC

Perhaps Oval and matching RC in the same round?
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2019, 04:50:42 PM »
New version feels very good around Riverside. 8)
A bit lose-off @ Martinsville, but that's my setup and there's plenty of adjustability, so looking nice. ;D
Now for Charlotte, for back-to-back with the older version....

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2019, 10:44:29 AM »
I'll try and get a run in at Charlotte tonight.
Then Sonoma, maybe tomorrow. ;)
And use Charlotte, my version, not 'Mountain Peak'. Same track just took out all the bloody fencing and moved the Roadcourse start/finish so the AI have enough time to see the first corner.
Is there a link to that?

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2019, 10:54:56 AM »
I'll try and get a run in at Charlotte tonight.
Then Sonoma, maybe tomorrow. ;)
And use Charlotte, my version, not 'Mountain Peak'. Same track just took out all the bloody fencing and moved the Roadcourse start/finish so the AI have enough time to see the first corner.
Is there a link to that?
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2019, 10:58:34 AM »
Thanks for that rooshooter

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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2019, 05:58:11 PM »
....And use Charlotte, my version, not 'Mountain Peak'.....

Now with Legends Oval. 440m
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Re: Ovals Ovals, no right turn Clyde.
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2019, 04:38:51 PM »
....And use Charlotte, my version, not 'Mountain Peak'.....

Now with Legends Oval. 440m
New version of car with Bacchulum's setup is much better :) I cannot see much more improvement with it, good enough I would rate.
Legends Oval is also great, thanks Seanus.
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