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Offline marty

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Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« on: April 11, 2015, 05:45:09 PM »
Ive noticed over the last couple weeks my connection turning to crap at peak hours and this is the same with many other aussies on my servers and in the league server. Coincidentally Netflix launched around the time things turned to crap, this isnt just effecting IINET but also optus, dodo maybe others. Australias network is pretty rubbish and the extra load from this has ground it to a pretty depressing state at peak times it seems.

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/the-real-reason-iinet-customers-are-facing-internet-speed-slowdowns-after-netflixs-arrival-20150408-1mgvas.html

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2015, 06:08:55 PM »
D'oh....
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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2015, 06:26:59 PM »
Marty!!! It's George Brandis Farming your metadatas!!!!!!!

You're gone mate...
You better start scrubbing your drives. ASAP...
   I suggest XGN abandon any association with a Marty Cerven aka Mary Cervix... He could be funding pornographic terrorism and pushing it on our children via social media. That's what I've heard anyway...

I think we should watch Guybrush as well. He's just returned from a holy war of some nature.... But I think it was a prescription ointment or balm of some kind from the chemist that end up tuning the war in guybrushes favor.
 Just saying, wash your hands after using his setups...



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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 07:35:46 PM »
I thought it must have just been some poor netcode adjustments from Kunos.

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 09:28:10 AM »
Marty!!! It's George Brandis Farming your metadatas!!!!!!!

You're gone mate...
You better start scrubbing your drives. ASAP...
   I suggest XGN abandon any association with a Marty Cerven aka Mary Cervix... He could be funding pornographic terrorism and pushing it on our children via social media. That's what I've heard anyway...

I think we should watch Guybrush as well. He's just returned from a holy war of some nature.... But I think it was a prescription ointment or balm of some kind from the chemist that end up tuning the war in guybrushes favor.
 Just saying, wash your hands after using his setups...

Metadata has been farmed and stored worldwide forever, this makes no difference. Pornographic terrorism lol that would be a new one but not surprising, I also just noticed you may contain traces of nuts.  That is like saying a bag of peanuts may contain traces of nuts, when the entire thing is fricken nuts.  ;)

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 09:54:25 AM »
It's just the new speed of our bastardised NBN. :o

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2015, 10:55:10 AM »
It's just the new speed of our bastardised NBN. :o

I think you're right, from what I've read. Fibre to the node instead of fibre to the premise. But how many people have NBN yet anyway? Netflix is probably killing all ADSL connections.
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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 11:45:36 AM »
I don't know anyone who uses Netflix either...  Apparently the Aus catalogue is very small.  I have a bigger catalogue of on-demand from Foxtel.

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 01:03:53 PM »
I don't know anyone who uses Netflix either...  Apparently the Aus catalogue is very small.  I have a bigger catalogue of on-demand from Foxtel.
I've read the same. Very few movies I would want to watch are actually available. What's the point?
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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 01:39:57 PM »
I don't know anyone who uses Netflix either...  Apparently the Aus catalogue is very small.  I have a bigger catalogue of on-demand from Foxtel.
You do, now.  I use Netflix - the US version, mind you - for about half a year now. 
The number of movies on the Aus version have been cut to about 1/5th of the US version, apparently.  But it's still a lot.

It's just the new speed of our bastardised NBN. :o

I think you're right, from what I've read. Fibre to the node instead of fibre to the premise. But how many people have NBN yet anyway? Netflix is probably killing all ADSL connections.

Nope, the rollout is crappola as of yet, so if there's a problem it's more likely something that has been building for a while.
I use netflix on an ADSL2, and even from the US it streams very nicely.  Chews through about 3-4GB for a full HD movie, but that's all. And it'll be the same on adsl or fibre, it does not matter.


Now, gents, two thoughts;
1) netflix probably did increase the usage, somewhat.  But that alone is not as much as smh would like you to think, in my opinion.  (c'mon, seriously?  smh for IT news?!? the guys don't know which end of an ethernet cable to touch...:) )

2) The bandwidth is like a pipe.  You can get more and more through it, but once it's near-full, even a tiny bit extra can trigger a serious problem.   Suddenly packets are bunched up, packets that would normally have gone through without delay.  And it just keeps pooling up, unless demand drops.   


So if it was indeed netflix tipping the scales, then we were probably damn close to having a problem anyway.   

If it's indeed in the iinet group only?  Then it's probably not netflix. (unless it's eating the same bandwidth iinet users are - which would be weird, server hosting is usually sitting on separate networks from customers)  Netflix would be used by people on all ISP's about equally.  Hence the other big ones would feel the pinch much more.


P.s.  I've noticed a few funny nights recently, too. And I'm with 'node (iinet group) on the central coast.   
Not sure if there's any global issue here, netflix or otherwise, or simply one or two exchanges can't cope with the load - temporarily, or simply due to slowly increasing usage.


But I'd also note that it seems some people are gunning for iiNet - not the first time. They had lawsuits before, they had one recently, and now they're singled out here, again.   Funny, especially since TPG apparently have bought it out.   Which, if it goes through, will flatten the ISP landscape in this country, considerably :(
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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2015, 06:11:35 PM »
It's just the new speed of our bastardised NBN. :o

I think you're right, from what I've read. Fibre to the node instead of fibre to the premise. But how many people have NBN yet anyway? Netflix is probably killing all ADSL connections.

fiber?? NBN?? pfft. That is a Labor initiative! Destroy it! Besides copper wire is coal friendly.
 It goes copper wire to Brandis then to premises, and back to Brandis then to the webz. (George Brandis does not even have a computer in his office btw he totally computer illiterate).........

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2015, 09:01:56 AM »
In all seriousness marty, change ISP. You must be one of the very few who use dodo. You seem like such a tech savvy guy yet you have chosen one of the poorest performing ISPs out there.
They might be cheap but that's about it....

Ok now how many other dodo users are here? Maybe they have improved?

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 09:56:45 AM »
Stop kicking a dead bird, Dick! 

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 10:17:13 AM »
I'm with Internode, and apart from some self-inflicted issues and our exchange burning down, it's been good but I'm still getting much more warping and ping spikes than a month or so ago.  I'm starting to wonder whether it might be the Amazon servers?

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Re: Did Netflix kill aussie peak internet performance?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 10:22:34 AM »
I'm using Amazon services for business, and the larger instances (that Wally uses for races) are rock solid.  They're far better than any game server you can get.  The tiny ones, though...  So if your experience is mostly on Marty's servers (he uses tiny instances loaded with multiple AC instances IIRC - correct me if I'm wrong, Marty) that may fluctuate more.