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Title: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 15, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
The last round of the Green Hell, to decide the Ringmaster.

RSR RANK (http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=rank&track=1006&car=2169&rank_type=all&tyre_type=all&controller_type=all&community=all&friends=all)

WR is 6:44.460 (http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=laptime_improvement&trackId=1006&carId=2169&driverId=19922), and so far Stan leads the way with a 7:04.050 (http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=laptime_improvement&trackId=1006&carId=2169&driverId=8889).
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 17, 2015, 11:58:42 PM
Server is up, and here is the stracker link.

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-nordschleife&cars=ks_glickenhaus_scg003&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=

Supposedly the real car did 6:42 here so thats our real challenge but probably not doable with the reduced grip levels. I raised temps a little on the prac server to help avoid the graining we had last week but the gt3 tyres probably are a bit better at that still.

Here is the real car at Nords doing what it likes to do over crests.  ;D
https://youtu.be/b5ZT2KFYY2U
[youtube]b5ZT2KFYY2U[/youtube]

Part of an onboard practice lap.
https://youtu.be/lEOgmAhNZbk
[youtube]lEOgmAhNZbk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Gratulin on December 18, 2015, 07:45:00 AM
It needs a little fifth wheel at the back like a golf buggy...
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 18, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
In the second video, it squeaks just like in the game. Nice.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bruce on December 18, 2015, 09:23:21 AM
I like the squeeks, same in the Escort... but I have done one lap in the glickky thing,,,

was man made to go this fast?  :o
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 18, 2015, 10:57:59 AM
I have trouble lasting more than a few minutes.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2015, 12:08:47 PM
I have trouble lasting more than a few minutes.
That's a common problem in the human male population ;)
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Freezer on December 18, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
I have trouble lasting more than a few minutes.
That's a common problem in the human male population ;)
Speak for yourself Bird . .. :)
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
I have trouble lasting more than a few minutes.
That's a common problem in the human male population ;)
Speak for yourself Bird . .. :)
No need to be shy, mr Freezer! :D
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 18, 2015, 05:48:35 PM
I like the squeeks, same in the Escort... but I have done one lap in the glickky thing,,,

was man made to go this fast?  :o

I take it you havent driven the hypercars around Nords or even the 2 new rufs. These do 340kmh+ maybe not quite as quick in the corners as the gt cars but the formula abarth was probably quicker in the corners then any gt car will be.

Those are silly quick and if you get something like the exos or 98T then you get insane speed. That combined with the bumps isbpretty much why no real fast open wheel or prototype cars are allowed to go flatout around Nords.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Gratulin on December 18, 2015, 06:41:21 PM
The front end really does get airborne over a couple of the crests. Would be seriously scary in real life.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 18, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
Fast and scary... real puckering up the old sphincter going on here  :o
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 20, 2015, 08:14:18 AM
I have put my initial setup in the practice server via ptracker its good enough to just get the wr but should have a few seconds left in it at optimum conditions. Funny how reducing in car tc and abs levels made it not pro mode so I just ran some laps at default factory which is a few seconds slower.

I found using tc at some very minor level is quite helpful. Seeing we are allowed to use it and it helps keep you out of the wall in a few of the critical corners where the car has issues otherwise its worth using. If intending to use tc also I think you would set the car up a little dofferently so without tc my setup could be more of a handful.

Passing this round will be much harder as they are a bit wider and need all the road at race pace nearly every section. The f abarth last weel you could pass at most corners but this one youd need the guy ahead to make an error or wait for the big draft up the straight.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bruce on December 20, 2015, 09:45:17 AM
Marty, your part of a unique group here, I am always impressed with not only your dedication to obtaining the best, but also your commitment to sharing and helping so many of us here... thanks.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: StanDaam on December 20, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
The front end really does get airborne over a couple of the crests. Would be seriously scary in real life.
Yes em!!
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 20, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
+1 What Bruce said  ;D
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 20, 2015, 05:33:38 PM
Marty, your part of a unique group here, I am always impressed with not only your dedication to obtaining the best, but also your commitment to sharing and helping so many of us here... thanks.

I think many of us just want some good hard close racing, if some setup help can help someone else out a little it only makes the racing a bit better for everyone. GB always posts pretty much all his setups though I tend to go a slightly different way then he does so anyone putting up a setup that works for them may help someone. Setups are a very personal thing in what works for certain driving styles and mine may work for some but not so good for others so a few options cant hurt for others to try.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bruce on December 20, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
I've signalled others out here,  hence part a great group.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 20, 2015, 05:57:05 PM
Yep, and you can always learn something from other peoples setups.  Sometimes having similar settings on different cars produces very different results so it's a bit of trial and error to a degree, which is why it's always nice to see what other people have done and learn from that, as the time just isn't available to go through every setting change.

As much as you continue to learn how to drive faster - although there is a point of diminishing returns - setups are the really fascinating thing that you just never stop learning about.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 20, 2015, 08:17:11 PM
In order for you to be able to upload your setup to ptracker on the practice server, you need to experimental build of ptracker from here.

http://n-e-y-s.de/download

And you also need the latest x64 Visual C++ Redistributable package from Microsoft, linked below. You probably also need to restart your pc after this is installed.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=48145
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 20, 2015, 09:54:10 PM
Setup for those that don't mind a loose rear end...

Add a couple of clicks of rear wing and decrease the rear ARB by a couple of clicks to get something a bit more comfortable.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 21, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
I have put my initial setup in the practice server via ptracker its good enough to just get the wr but should have a few seconds left in it at optimum conditions. Funny how reducing in car tc and abs levels made it not pro mode so I just ran some laps at default factory which is a few seconds slower.

Thanks Marty - improved on my PB :)
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 22, 2015, 01:10:54 PM
I may not make it tonight.  My throttle pedal was playing up again last night, so if I can't fix it in time I don't think I'll bother.  Fingers crossed the contact cleaner does the trick though.

Would there be any way of protecting it somehow?  If I was to wrap a certain part in electrical tape to stop dust/hair getting on the pot?
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 22, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
I may not make it tonight.  My throttle pedal was playing up again last night, so if I can't fix it in time I don't think I'll bother.  Fingers crossed the contact cleaner does the trick though.

Would there be any way of protecting it somehow?  If I was to wrap a certain part in electrical tape to stop dust/hair getting on the pot?

Can you replace the pot altogether?
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 22, 2015, 01:38:44 PM
I may not make it tonight.  My throttle pedal was playing up again last night, so if I can't fix it in time I don't think I'll bother.  Fingers crossed the contact cleaner does the trick though.

Would there be any way of protecting it somehow?  If I was to wrap a certain part in electrical tape to stop dust/hair getting on the pot?

Hi GB,

When my G27 throttle started to play up I took the cover off and drowned the pot in that alcohol circuit board cleaner (big spray can), whilst pushing the pedal down and up...

http://www.jaycar.com.au/Service-Aids/Chemical-Aids/Aerosols/Electronic-Circuit-Board-Cleaner-Spray-Can/p/NA1008
(something similar)

That seemed to do the trick for me... was pretty quick too... as quick as taking those 100 screws off the bottom for the cover quick  :o
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 22, 2015, 02:25:57 PM
Thanks Rolz.  I've done that 3 times already though, and I had to do it twice last time as it didn't work properly the first.  I'm starting to get over it as it takes at least half an hour to take it apart, spray, mop up the residual contact cleaner, and then put it all together and attach to my wheel stand...  which is also feeling the pinch as the screw+ hole that hold it all on is stripping and each time is harder to attach.

:(

If I didn't get a $417 speeding from for doing 11 km/h over in S.A. maybe I could justify buying a new set of pedals.

I think you all should be weeping for me with violin playing.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 22, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Thanks Rolz.  I've done that 3 times already though, and I had to do it twice last time as it didn't work properly the first.  I'm starting to get over it as it takes at least half an hour to take it apart, spray, mop up the residual contact cleaner, and then put it all together and attach to my wheel stand...  which is also feeling the pinch as the screw+ hole that hold it all on is stripping and each time is harder to attach.

:(

If I didn't get a $417 speeding from for doing 11 km/h over in S.A. maybe I could justify buying a new set of pedals.

I think you all should be weeping for me with violin playing.

double suck...

$417 for 11km over... far out... that's basically these right there http://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html

 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: marty on December 22, 2015, 02:39:22 PM
Would there be any way of protecting it somehow?  If I was to wrap a certain part in electrical tape to stop dust/hair getting on the pot?

You could shave your balls and then it will reduce amount of hair getting in the pot. You could also try and wear some pants which would also have the same effect but that may be too much for you.

In all seriousness I hope you get it sorted as its always fun crashing trying to keep up with you.  Maybe one day you will crash before me but seeing your limit is higher then mine I need to push more to try and hang on and so have been making more errors recently.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
gents, chances are I won't be able to make it tonight, again.  sorry & have fun.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Gratulin on December 22, 2015, 06:02:42 PM

Thanks Rolz.  I've done that 3 times already though, and I had to do it twice last time as it didn't work properly the first.  I'm starting to get over it as it takes at least half an hour to take it apart, spray, mop up the residual contact cleaner, and then put it all together and attach to my wheel stand...  which is also feeling the pinch as the screw+ hole that hold it all on is stripping and each time is harder to attach.

:(

If I didn't get a $417 speeding from for doing 11 km/h over in S.A. maybe I could justify buying a new set of pedals.

I think you all should be weeping for me with violin playing.

double suck...

$417 for 11km over... far out... that's basically these right there http://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html

 :'( :'( :'(
Rolz, can you PLEASE stop posting links to those damn pedals! They are too tempting...
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bacchulum on December 22, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
I'm getting a checksum error connecting to the race server Wally. :(

I have no issues with the practice server.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 22, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
yup ditto
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 22, 2015, 07:26:52 PM
yup ditto
I'll check in a minute. After the dishes.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: AJ on December 22, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
May not be able to get in tonight. Getting an "acs.exe has stopped working" whenever I try to start a race/practice/etc. Will join if I can get it sorted but it's not looking promising.  :'(
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 22, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
May not be able to get in tonight. Getting an "acs.exe has stopped working" whenever I try to start a race/practice/etc. Will join if I can get it sorted but it's not looking promising.  :'(
I just restarted the server, try again now.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: AJ on December 22, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
Nah I can't even start a local session.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 22, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
Nah I can't even start a local session.
Try verifying your local files for AC in Steam.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: AJ on December 22, 2015, 10:37:19 PM
Strangely enough it was fixed by closing Steam and re-opening it, Steam needed to update itself. Not sure why that would allow the launcher to work but not the actual race session, but hey, if it works it works.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 23, 2015, 02:46:02 AM
It wasn't the resolution bug was it?  Sometimes after an update the screen resolution setting changes and you have to manually set it back otherwise the game won't run.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Bruce on December 23, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
Other than a mistake at the final corners and the server timing, I survived 3 laps in the glicker at the ring!  Gotta be happy with that.
I should thank Wally for the "no pain, no gain" training scheme, I know the track the best I have ever and more than happy to have a blast at it.

Thanks for the runs Wally, always a pleasure to be involved in your sessions  :)
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: AJ on December 23, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
It wasn't the resolution bug was it?  Sometimes after an update the screen resolution setting changes and you have to manually set it back otherwise the game won't run.

Nah wasn't that. I've had that happen enough times that it's the first thing I check these days.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 23, 2015, 09:29:41 AM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/ringmaster-4-scg-003c.html)

Round Points
-XGN- Guybrush Threepwood    50
Rolz    45
Stan Daam    41
Bacchulum    39
Marty    37
Glenn Frost    36
-XGN-Phil.8    36
- XGN - Wally Masterson    35
Dave O    35
AJ    34
Mael    29
Bruce Rook    29
Gratulin    12


Will the newly crowned Ringmaster please step forward and bend over... Guybrush Threepwood.

Podium is:
1. Guybrush, 188
2. Rolz, 165
3. Wally, 148

Final standings are HERE (http://www.xgn.com.au/www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1246.msg21359).
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Wally on December 23, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
The stupid thing in race 1 was that I had spun a bit, and was stopped facing the armco - not a huge hit - and the game decided to put me back in the pits. WTF? That puts you a long way behind at the Nordschleife! I barely saw anyone that race. Race 2 was much more entertaining, but I still made too many mistakes - lapses of concentration, loose moments...

I'm all Rung out now.
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Rolz on December 23, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Firstly congrats to GB - certainly a class above the rest...

Special mention for Marty... definitely the only one able to keep GB challenged... it is a decision you had to make, go hard and risk crashing or could have quite easily relaxed a bit more and have taken out 2nd place overall...

I'm just stoked to be racing with both of you... Marty getting the RSR WR and in game GB doing faster times than that... awesome!
Diving with such quality just drags my arse up to be a better driver thanks!! Certainly have improved since I first join XGN  ;D

I love the Nordschleife track and had a top time taking part in this little season.

Stoked to get 2nd overall... lots of luck and fantastic setups from Marty contributed to it that's for sure!

Wally - always appreciate the effort you put in being admin and collating the data post race! Thanks heaps as well

 ;D
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 23, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
I'd just like to thanks my primary sponsor: Ansel flavoured lubricants, and our partners over at Proctologyisfun.com, without which being a master of the ring simply couldn't happen.

Qualy was good.  First clean lap I tried to complete and got a reasonable time early on in the piece, with race load fuel and low grip.  Left it until late in the session to go out and try to set a real hot lap with low fuel and high track grip.  Unfortunately someone spun in front of me and cleaned me up so I didn't get a chance to do a proper hot lap, but would have been interesting to see what this beast was capable of.

First race was nice and holding a gap to Marty who was keeping me honest, then my pedal started playing up again, despite me giving it a good dousing with contact cleaner (that shit is mighty sticky by the way).  Luckily Marty had an off as my throttle cut out going around the sharpish right hander on Lap 2 before Hoe-bags straight which put me into the grass and fence as I couldn't control the slide.  Managed to bring it home with no front or rear wing and half a litre of fuel to spare and some coasting on the straight.

Race 2 was fun.  It didn't seem we could get around the first sector without a pile-up.  I came around the fast left hander after the first major straight to see cars everywhere and one parked right in the middle of the sharpish right hand corner.  I went into the gravel trap to avoid, which worked, but then someone must have hit the parked car which then speared into me causing me damage.  Anyway, clawed my way back toward the front after trying as best I could to be patient and snuck by Rolz on the big straight on Lap 2.

A good change up in the season.  I still can't come to love Nords as some others do.  I'm not sure why.  I think it's a good hotlap track, but it doesn't seem great for pack racing.  Maybe it's just because it's so long you don't often see other cars, and isn't really a track you can "jump in and jump out" (or "JIJO" as we say) quickly for a few laps.

I'd also like to comment, as Rolz has, that it's great to see such an improvement from various drivers here.  That's the real joy and motivation of it all IMO - to see real progress in yourself and probably more satisfying; others.

Thanks for the season guys!
Title: Re: Ringmaster 4 - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG003C
Post by: StanDaam on December 23, 2015, 11:59:25 AM
Survived the green hell n back!!

Race 1, pretty wonely, had a pristine car until I relaxed on the last lap, had a little off then limped home in 5th.
Race 2, had a good race with Wally and Bacchulum at the end, the speed advantage without damage verses damaged was quite noticeble!!

 :P
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