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Title: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2015, 09:00:00 PM
1/4 lap into race 1, hit a spinning car around a blind corner and got stuck on a kerb, facing the wall. Short $@#%$ race.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Phil.8 on November 03, 2015, 09:22:22 PM
I think we should restart sometimes. I have been taken out first race first lap every round so far, Its not fair to those  who look forward to a race on Tuesdays only to have it wrecked in the first 30 seconds every time
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Joe on November 03, 2015, 10:16:21 PM
Put in one qually lap and the baby started fussing and was clear i wasn't gonna be able to finish a race. On the plus side it wasn't that quick so hopefully I'll loose my balast? :)
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on November 03, 2015, 10:21:22 PM
I agree with Phil. Safety car, at least :) For two consecutive races I got hit from behind on lap 1 (by the same person)... I kind of don't like hotlapping all night ;)

the race 2 was my fault... :(
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2015, 10:23:06 PM
I think we should restart sometimes. I have been taken out first race first lap every round so far, Its not fair to those  who look forward to a race on Tuesdays only to have it wrecked in the first 30 seconds every time

I'm not a fan of restarts in league races. In real life, there are no second chances. It adds some highs and lows to the experience. You must be pretty unlucky to be taken out every round, as for most people it would only happen occasionally.

The starts in this round were pretty clean actually. There were accidents only later into the lap.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2015, 10:25:39 PM
1/4 lap into race 1, hit a spinning car around a blind corner and got stuck on a kerb, facing the wall. Short $@#%$ race.

At the end of lap 1 in race 2, got caught up in someone else's accident again, and got smacked in the rear, which destroyed my rear aero. It took me a few corners to realise the extent of the damage, so I limped right around, and repaired the car which put me a lap down, to just hotlap to the end and stay behind any cars when I was being blue flagged.

Worst Round Eva.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Phil.8 on November 03, 2015, 10:37:51 PM
If that was real life there would be a safety car at least,  need a server a setting that makes the leader become a safety car.

Title: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Will on November 03, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
Learned a couple things in race 2 tonight. 1-You need to do a few laps in practice on a full tank to know how much more fuel you use. 2-There's no fuel estimate shown when pitting. No idea how I got this far in season without realising that one! Ah well was a good race apart from having to pit on lap 13.


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Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/s9r4-formula-renault-at-spa.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2015/10/season-9-standings.html)

Penalties
Race 2, Simone (-8) for careless entry into T1, hitting Bacchulum (+8) and Jeremy (+8)

Round Points
EdWood    71.5
Matthew111    66
Marty    65
Jeremy    63.5
Skaife    62
Rolz    60.5
Bacchulum    58
Guybrush Threepwood    52.5
Will    50
Chap111    49
Freezer    46.5
Simone    41.5
Grat    38
StanDaam    35.5
Bafs17    35
Mael    30
Schmittez    30
Phil.8    28.5
christopheraser    27
Wally    23

Congratulations to EdWood on the round win, and Rolz and EdWood for the race wins.

Season Podium
1. EdWood, 191
2. Guybrush, 190.5
3. Marty, 180.5

Teams
Achilles Heels leads from Struggle Street Racing Crew, 371 to 348.

Ballast Changes

Race 1, average lap time 2:04.567

P1: Rolz (2:03.599, 0.968): 57 -> 75
P2: Bafs17 (2:03.401, 1.166): 8 -> 29
P3: Jeremy (2:04.517, 0.050): 119 -> 120
P4: Guybrush Threepwood (2:04.845, -0.278): 178 -> 173
P5: EdWood (2:06.069, -1.502): 116 -> 89
P6: Marty (2:04.539, 0.028): 134 -> 135
P7: Bacchulum (2:04.516, 0.051): 27 -> 28
P8: Will (2:04.116, 0.451): 62 -> 70
P9: Matthew111 (2:04.717, -0.150): 128 -> 125
P10: christopheraser (2:06.778, -2.211): 83 -> 44
P11: Mael (2:04.064, 0.503): 0 -> 9
P12: Skaife (2:04.221, 0.346): 69 -> 75
P13: Grat (2:03.590, 0.977): 69 -> 87
P14: Simone (2:06.235, -1.668): 57 -> 27
P15: Phil.8 (2:05.323, -0.756): 110 -> 96
P16: Freezer (2:06.137, -1.570): 59 -> 31
P17: Schmittez (2:04.567, 0.000): 0 -> 0
P18: Chap111 (2:04.397, 0.170): 0 -> 3
P19: StanDaam (2:05.587, -1.020): 96 -> 78
P20: Wally (2:05.218, -0.651): 13 -> 1

Race 2, average lap time 2:04.871

P1: EdWood (2:04.356, 0.515): 89 -> 98
P2: Skaife (2:04.801, 0.070): 75 -> 76
P3: Matthew111 (2:04.461, 0.410): 125 -> 132
P4: Chap111 (2:04.941, -0.070): 3 -> 2
P5: Marty (2:05.334, -0.463): 135 -> 127
P6: Simone (2:05.203, -0.332): 27 -> 21
P7: Freezer (2:05.370, -0.499): 31 -> 22
P8: Rolz (2:04.392, 0.479): 75 -> 84
P9: Bacchulum (2:04.792, 0.079): 28 -> 29
P10: Will (2:03.503, 1.368): 70 -> 95
P11: Jeremy (2:05.358, -0.487): 120 -> 111
P12: StanDaam (2:05.190, -0.319): 78 -> 72
P13: Guybrush Threepwood (2:04.730, 0.141): 173 -> 176
P14: Grat (2:04.378, 0.493): 87 -> 96
P15: Schmittez (2:04.343, 0.528): 0 -> 10
P16: Wally (2:04.801, 0.070): 1 -> 2
P17: Mael (2:05.000, -0.129): 9 -> 7
P18: Phil.8 (2:05.631, -0.760): 96 -> 82
P19: Bafs17 (2:04.501, 0.370): 29 -> 36
P20: christopheraser (2:06.152, -1.281): 44 -> 21
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on November 03, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
Damn first lap crash: I had the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 8th best laps in a 7 laps race and each single one of my 6 laps was faster than the best laps of the first 6 drivers... looks like I could have won. Well: I guess that's how racing goes...
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: marty on November 03, 2015, 11:40:21 PM
Damn first lap crash: I had the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 8th best laps in a 7 laps race and each single one of my 6 laps was faster than the best laps of the first 6 drivers... looks like I could have won. Well: I guess that's how racing goes...

That looks like you just didn't have enough ballast to me, had you not got hit would have won too easily.

Someone predicted carnage, and carnage arrived. Somehow I avoided it all I including being just behind schmittez in race 1 as he spun which began this chain reaction with me somehow getting through untouched.

(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/08ff/iz61iehvb2catkt6g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?iz61iehvb2catkt)

And I was in the middle of this at t1 race 2 with my little redbull machine somehow avoiding damage again.

(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2372/90854sf3pmrg7gl6g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?90854sf3pmrg7gl)

On the nite I went as hard as possible every single lap, all qualy laps and race laps were 100% but I still was a bit off the pace with some very close times in qualy. Race 1 after avoiding the carnage I settled in to a battle with Edwood, he passed me early then I hunted him down for the rest of the race passing him back on the last lap only for him to retake the spot again into the bus stop.

Race 2 again dodging the carnage zig zagging through spinning cars, I then drove as hard as I could and chased down Freezer until he made an error out of t1. Then I had Simone next ahead who I was slowly gaining on up to the pitstop, after the stops I had got to within a couple of seconds but also had chap close after the exit. I saw both had very little ballast so it was always going to be a battle but Simone was a little slow on his outlap with both Chap and me passing him fairly early. Then I just tried to hunt Chap down but no matter how hard I tried with 135kg vs 3kg of ballast he could just find some extra pace when he needed it. In the end I got within a couple seconds but it was never going to happen.

Funny to see he still has only 3kg of ballast next race considering his pace and I dropped a whopping 8kg for the next race to get to 126. :)
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Simone on November 03, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
Wally says:Simone careless entry!

Cmon mate can you use another term?,,,cmon !!!   Is not fair!!!  did you see the accident???

Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Simone on November 03, 2015, 11:43:05 PM
...i mean for the first time in weeks i make a mistake and you call it" a caraless entry"





fanculo you too wally....ahahahahahaaaaa
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Freezer on November 03, 2015, 11:57:30 PM
R1: (See Pic) Car spun in front of me and I T-boned it which set of a big chain reaction.  From there car was stuffed so just plodded around.
R2: Had a few laps with Marty chasing me before I put I wheel on the outer edge of the T1 ripple strip and went around.  Not long after I came into the last chicane and there were cars everywhere.  Managed to slip through and grab a bunch of spots.  From there I pretty much kept it together to come home 8th.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 04, 2015, 07:21:17 AM
Race 1 was fun enough.  Qualified down the order and got a good start to make a few places up - must have got up to around 6th.  Then was a sitting duck due to ballast so sunk back through the field, although had a nice little battle with Matthew.   Attrition gained me a few places and ended up 4th, which was more so luck than skill.

Race 2 was disappointing.   Got taken out at the final chicane on the first lap which caused a pile up and damages all corners of my car, then a couple of laps later I got ridden into the fence on the Kemmel straight while passing which caused another pile up and my car was red all over.   From there I limped around for 10 laps just waiting for the race to be over.

Schmittez if you cause an accident you need to pull over and redress the position.  You rode me into the wall and kept driving.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 04, 2015, 07:46:23 AM
Wally says:Simone careless entry!

Cmon mate can you use another term?,,,cmon !!!   Is not fair!!!  did you see the accident???
OK. "Simone carefully slid into the side of Bacchulum's car in T1". Better? :)

Great dramatic pics! What smoke level do you guys have your game set at? Mine's only on Very Low, and it never looks as dramatic as that. Higher smoke isn't a framerate killer?

Funny to see he still has only 3kg of ballast next race considering his pace and I dropped a whopping 8kg for the next race to get to 126. :)

Chap is right on the average lap time, so his ballast is spot on. The reason why ballast changes look relatively small this round is because the lap time is longer than usual. So even though Marty was 0.46 secs slower than the average, that's a small percentage of a 2:04 lap, so the ballast doesn't drop as much as you'd think.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Rolz on November 04, 2015, 07:58:01 AM
Race 2 - Lap 9-10 Bafs17 had a shocker and blocked pits for leaders (Edwood and I) to get in on... Edwood got past but I didn't... Wally can you check it out? Going from 2nd to 10th due to a lap down car is just beyond poor form.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: StanDaam on November 04, 2015, 08:48:44 AM
Race 1: Crash n burn, happy to end up stranded on a curb unable to move, game over.
Race 2: Big lag spike after a shunt further up the road left my car damaged again. Plodded around looking for scraps.
 :P
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: marty on November 04, 2015, 09:01:28 AM
Wally says:Simone careless entry!

Cmon mate can you use another term?,,,cmon !!!   Is not fair!!!  did you see the accident???
OK. "Simone carefully slid into the side of Bacchulum's car in T1". Better? :)

Great dramatic pics! What smoke level do you guys have your game set at? Mine's only on Very Low, and it never looks as dramatic as that. Higher smoke isn't a framerate killer?

Simone carefully slid into the side of the car spunds worse to me. It makes it sound like he did it part of a plan.

The screens I put smoke to ultra, but race on medium as it can drop fps. Funny race 1 I turned down some settings and had some big fps drops at one point during the race. I turned everything back up on race 2 and had no issues.

As I use an fps cap at 62 if I turn settings down 1 of the gpu's drops its speed and then can drop fps. Keep things turned up and more gpu load keeps the fps up so its an odd one. If I dont cap the fps I get between 80 to 100fps and this looks like crap in motion with a bit of stuttering. Cap at 62 looks very smooth and normally doesnt drop a single frame but seems that sli still gets broken at times by lots of text on screen.

I had the names above cars and at the back of the pack it was causing fps issues. I turned these off and was fine maxed out race 2 except smoke on med.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 04, 2015, 10:08:10 AM
Race 2 - Lap 9-10 Bafs17 had a shocker and blocked pits for leaders (Edwood and I) to get in on... Edwood got past but I didn't... Wally can you check it out? Going from 2nd to 10th due to a lap down car is just beyond poor form.

I will take a look tonight.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 04, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
 I wonder if you could have grid place penalties Wally?  Or perhaps an additional 20kg of ballast or something for the next race as a penalty?
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Rolz on November 04, 2015, 11:43:09 AM
I wonder if you could have grid place penalties Wally?  Or perhaps an additional 20kg of ballast or something for the next race as a penalty?

Grid place penalties is a good idea, but if they're guilty of shunting up the backside won't they have more potential victims in front of them?  :P
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: marty on November 04, 2015, 11:59:07 AM
I wonder if you could have grid place penalties Wally?  Or perhaps an additional 20kg of ballast or something for the next race as a penalty?

Grid place penalties is a good idea, but if they're guilty of shunting up the backside won't they have more potential victims in front of them?  :P

Maybe put them on pole and we can then punt them off.  ;D
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 04, 2015, 12:01:22 PM
I wonder if you could have grid place penalties Wally?  Or perhaps an additional 20kg of ballast or something for the next race as a penalty?

I think the appropriate penalty (and certainly the easiest to implement in the AC world) is a points penalty. I don't necessarily want to have to look at every single little incident, because of the time it would take. I'm happy to look at the first couple of turns, because that's a dangerous but contained time.

I would think that just pointing out things to people would be enough. Everyone's here to enjoy the racing.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Simone on November 04, 2015, 01:49:59 PM
My apologies to bach and jeremy,i just made a mistake in negotiating the braking zone in the first lap first corner in the 2nd race,to avoid someone else i steered onto the grass i tried not to lock the wheel but to no avail...sorry guys!!!




Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on November 04, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
Race 2 - Lap 9-10 Bafs17 had a shocker and blocked pits for leaders (Edwood and I) to get in on... Edwood got past but I didn't... Wally can you check it out? Going from 2nd to 10th due to a lap down car is just beyond poor form.
PMs sent.

Just to be clear, I didn't see anything malicious here, just an unfortunate accident caused by lack of awareness and communication.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Schmittez on November 04, 2015, 05:26:56 PM
Schmittez if you cause an accident you need to pull over and redress the position.  You rode me into the wall and kept driving.

Yeah really sorry about that. I know I need to, I don't know why I didn't.

Race 1: well I think most people know what happened there I just put a little more throttle than I should of and unfortunately spun right across the track cause quite a bit crash, I didn't realize it was quite as big until I watched the replay because I was perpendicular to the track flipping over until I got sent back to the pits. then just rejoined and lapped till the end.

Race 2: got all of about 1 car length before getting some damage, qualified last as I didn't get a good lap in and the person in front of me bogged hard on the start and I couldn't quite move over enough in time and just clipped him and got a little aero damage but neither of us span or anything. then I think I went and squeezed Guy out like an asshole and kept going I probably should get penalized for that, there was also a VERY unsafe reentry I did but there was no contact not sure when that was. nothing much else happened except I didn't put enough fuel in during either of my pit stops my mandatory one or the second one I did to put enough in to make it to the end.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Matthew111 on November 04, 2015, 05:52:29 PM
Race1: didnt nail qual 100% which is a punish since the field is fairly close now with the ballast lol. Got off to a safe start and watched the world colapse around me settling into 6th i think, had a nice little battle with gb for the first few laps, got a small gap on him and was cruising home in 5th maintining a gap until the last lap where i came across bachulum in the middle of turn 4 and went wide into the dirt to avoid him and kept the foot to the floor to keep gb behind but i spun so annoying on the last lap so came 8th lol

race2: fired up qualy 4th with a decent lap and again a clean start settling into a rythem, had skaife behind me but once again the team fails in the pits and i lost a spot to skaife and put in qual laps to catch him but when i got within 1 sec on him the dirty air killed me which was cool but frustrating at the time lol. Came home 3rd
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Bacchulum on November 04, 2015, 05:55:42 PM
Race 1 was looking good up to the last lap, I weaved through the war-zone at Les Combe on lap 1 and worked my way up to 2nd.
But on the last lap I tried to keep pressure on Rolz and just ended up 'Rosberging' at Les Combe, picking up damage and finishing 7th. :(

Race 2 was OK until turn 1, when Simone 'carefully' slid into me, which left me at the back with front/rear/side damage.
Drove damaged until the earliest 1 stop point, fixed the damage and carried on, but the time spent damaged and the long stop left me all alone.

I've had better nights. :-\
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Mael on November 04, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
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Race 2: got all of about 1 car length before getting some damage, qualified last as I didn't get a good lap in and the person in front of me bogged hard on the start and I couldn't quite move over enough in time and just clipped him and got a little aero damage but neither of us span or anything.

yeah sorry about that, I got bogged down in both races. I need to figure out how to get off the line in these cars.

The damage had a bit bigger effect on me! The rear kept wanting to overtake the front end in every corner, I was lapping in the about 5 seconds of my normal pace due to the damage. Then after my pits-top I touched a curb at high speed and got spat out into a very angry wall. The wall did not want to move out of my way so spend 2 years in the pits repairing the damage  ;D
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Schmittez on November 04, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
The damage had a bit bigger effect on me! The rear kept wanting to overtake the front end in every corner.

that sucks especially since looking at the replay I didn't get anywhere near your wing just clipped your tire but I guess you still would of ended up with a flat, also no one watch the reply of this because it looks like I swerve in to Mael but that was just me trying to correct for the wheel spin.
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Mael on November 04, 2015, 09:36:34 PM
Yip that was no ones fault but my own Schmittez, you did well to only clip me!
Title: Re: S9R4: Spa post-race chat
Post by: G0RGAK on November 05, 2015, 02:08:07 PM
Missed the race, melbourne cup, sounds like a missed a demolition derby though  ???
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