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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on August 31, 2016, 07:47:42 PM
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3 x 15 laps
With 23 entrants, we don't need to use the OSRW mod - so this is on the stock AC track.
Weather Forecast (http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/United-Kingdom/Silverstone-Circuit.aspx) (looking like 24 degrees and cloudy, back in the northern hemisphere summer)
Entry List
Flattop
Bafs17
Hornbag
Joe
Mitchyy
Rob
Humper
Ben
Insomniac
slideways
Guybrush Threepwood
Mael
Wally
Freezer
Rob LTD
Grat
hylas
EdWood
Bacchulum
Phil.8
Marty
Jeremy
Matthew111
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Cracking track, looking forward to it, the Supra is VERY fast around here, hopefully can keep the Z and GTR at bay in the rx7. Alongside the usual XGN practice server I have setup the same combo with no varying track grip=100% grip all the time, and 23c ambient and cloudy. Lots of practice time plus qual and a short race. The usual password for admin, no stracker though.
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Cracking track, looking forward to it, the Supra is VERY fast around here, hopefully can keep the Z and GTR at bay in the rx7. Alongside the usual XGN practice server I have setup the same combo with no varying track grip=100% grip all the time, and 23c ambient and cloudy. Lots of practice time plus qual and a short race. The usual password for admin, no stracker though.
Thanks Davo, I hope your correct on the Supra, I will need to put plenty of practice in... this time :)
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Just realised, car club meeting next week, will not get the opportunity to stretch the Supra! :-\
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Just realised, car club meeting next week, will not get the opportunity to stretch the Supra! :-\
OK, thanks Bruce. I'll take you off the grid to avoid holes.
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Having ran some laps in the 370 and rx7 these seem fairly close, 370 is much easier to drive here rx7 likely has a couple tenths in hand thanks to top speed advantage but its quite sketchy near the limit so will be hard to be as consistent. I havent tried the other 2 yet but will do at some point.
I did forget to turn Minorating filtering off for maybe a few days so the prac server would have been a bit nasty, I jumped on and Phil asked if the console people can race in MP now. :)
Then last nite instead of making grip 100% +-2 so should start between 98 and 100 with a 50% chance at 100 I made it 10% +-2 lol. I think only Insomniac tried to run on the server at 9% but failed to get it moving. Maybe thats the ice level of grip.
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LOL yeah 9% was fun not could not get it off the pit. They're all very close here I think.. I got into the 17s in the gtr and rx7 so far but didn't manage to in the z. Haven't tried the supra, but from what I've seen of others its fast.
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Disregard the 2 aliens and the next ten guys are within 0.6s. :)
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Real onboard laps in 370z at Silverstone international with ballast (aka passenger) but he is just cruising.
ONBOARD: Silverstone International Nissan NISMO 370Z - Nick McMillen
A little practice/messing around session on the international track for us GT Academy guys in the Nissan 370z free race cars that we used in the final GT Academy race. Passenger is Stanislav Aksenov the Russian winner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-Rwjxc-us
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Cool. Now that Bird's bought himself a GT86, who's going to step up and buy one of these?
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Is Bird racing his for real, I havent seen him since he got it. Maybe hes still getting home from work as that car is pretty slow. ;D
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Is Bird racing his for real, I havent seen him since he got it. Maybe hes still getting home from work as that car is pretty slow. ;D
Haven't you seen his track day vids? http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1513.0
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Weather looks ok for tuesday, 20c for the early race and 26 for the late one with a rain shower maybe good for the gtrs :(
How the track was below ambient air temp last week I don't get?
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Weather looks ok for tuesday, 20c for the early race and 26 for the late one with a rain shower maybe good for the gtrs :(
How the track was below ambient air temp last week I don't get?
Track can go below ambient when it's cloudy. I use the temperatures recommended by the AC server manager program, which takes cloud cover into account.
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Yes with some cloud cover track temp can drop off a fair bit. This is in the UK so its quite likely the sun wont be out. Regarding grip and temps though its the same for the field so no need to get too concerned over these.
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Some good fun races here on Saturday night. Didn't get a chance for more practice last night, and won't tonight either but hopefully will run okay on Tuesday. Was in the low 1:18s at best.
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It might be an idea to stick me at the back of the grid here. I've had to abandon my sequential shifter in this car and have reverted to H-pattern. Haven't used it in so many years and I'm missing shifts all over the place atm and a fair bit off the pace. :-[ ::) Can see me inadvertently causing grief amongst traffic so best to be safe. ;)
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The GTR isn't too bad around here. Doesn't seem too much slower than the RX7, although on the straight you can see the tenth's of a second being lost on the delta. The other cars seem to have the medium/high speed corners and top speed advantage.
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It might be an idea to stick me at the back of the grid here. I've had to abandon my sequential shifter in this car and have reverted to H-pattern. Haven't used it in so many years and I'm missing shifts all over the place atm and a fair bit off the pace. :-[ ::) Can see me inadvertently causing grief amongst traffic so best to be safe. ;)
I can do that.
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Cheers mate, you don't want to be on my arse when I famously slip from 5th to 2nd. Not a pretty outcome.... ;D ;D
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It might be an idea to stick me at the back of the grid here. I've had to abandon my sequential shifter in this car and have reverted to H-pattern. Haven't used it in so many years and I'm missing shifts all over the place atm and a fair bit off the pace. :-[ ::) Can see me inadvertently causing grief amongst traffic so best to be safe. ;)
If your struggling with the shifter I think best to just take a little more time on each shift, there really isn't a huge gain in nailing every shift to the limit. Missing 1 gear costs more then probably 50 perfect shifts will gain you. On Upshifts make sure to fully lift off throttle and also use clutch to make sure you find a gear, on downshifts avoid skipping gears and also dont shift too early. If you get a compression lockup on downshift the GTR will lock all 4 wheels and so get a massive 4 wheel under-steer on entry which isn't a good thing.
Not sure what wheel shifter your using, I have g27 and even though many say the shifter feels real bad but its actual travel range is near identical to a real r33 r34 skyline shifter. Actual feel obviously is a little different but the short travel in the g25/27 shifter would be pretty much identical I think.
What is it that was causing you issues with the paddles? if your trying to shift so early that downshift protection if that is a thing even on a manual car in sequential. Then your likely shifting down at too high rpm and you will need to delay the downshifts a bit more. This may mean you need to shift fairly late into turn in and so avoid compression lockup is even more critical.
It will take some time to get used to it especially if your not daily driving a manual trans car and dont use the shifter much in game either. Once you get the hang of it though its much more fun and also gives you much more control, I really hate those street cars without manual trans and slow sequential gearboxes, much more prefer driving anything I can with the shifter.
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It will take some time to get used to it especially if your not daily driving a manual trans car and dont use the shifter much in game either. Once you get the hang of it though its much more fun and also gives you much more control, I really hate those street cars without manual trans and slow sequential gearboxes, much more prefer driving anything I can with the shifter.
nailed it :thumbsup:
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One thing I've mentioned too is to change the range of travel of your clutch in the AC controller settings - i.e. move the max end of the travel half way back down the slider. A lot of fluffed gear changes are from not depressing the clutch enough, and if you lower the range of travel, you only have to dab the clutch pedal to get full engagement.
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One thing I've mentioned too is to change the range of travel of your clutch in the AC controller settings - i.e. move the max end of the travel half way back down the slider. A lot of fluffed gear changes are from not depressing the clutch enough, and if you lower the range of travel, you only have to dab the clutch pedal to get full engagement.
I got into a habit of making sure to press clutch to the floor both in my real car and in game if I want a fast shift. Its easier to slam the clutch to the floor then kind of trying to guess if you have gone past the bite point or not. My car does have a rather long clutch travel with the bite point about 2/3 of the range, go a touch short and it sounds not good on a quick shift and can get that nasty grind plus back to neutral. Also how I killed a clutch once on track with just one bad upshift.
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Not sure what wheel shifter your using, I have g27 and even though many say the shifter feels real bad but its actual travel range is near identical to a real r33 r34 skyline shifter. Actual feel obviously is a little different but the short travel in the g25/27 shifter would be pretty much identical I think.
gees how short are the throws on a r33 lol must of had a short shifter!!!
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When I jump into some other cars they feel like trucks having to move the shifter so far. :)
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My primary car for almost a decade was a Lada Niva, A day driving it in the city felt like going to the gym between the long heavy gear-shifts and the lack of power steering. ;D
The feel on the shifter was great, you could almost feel the gears meshing together!
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LOL, ironically I don't drive IRL. Haven't for nearly 20 years so no chance of any practice there. I'll get used to it. Changed it to sequential many years ago when V8 Supercars did and that's pretty much all I raced then. Never got round to switching back.
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After running quite a few (or heaps ;D) of laps racing a few guys here tonight I can see the main trouble corner will be the last chicane complex at Club. The fastest way around is braking quite early here then holding a tight inside line just missing the sausage curb, most of the slower guys are braking much deeper and so its quite likely they will rear end someone if they are following. If you try a move on the inside you will need to brake even harder to hold the very tight line with less track on entry. If you come in hot on the inside you will likely hit someone or run straight across the road.
(http://www.civic-cup.co.uk/uploads/circuit/Silverstone-International-circuit.jpg)
Even on your own if you mess this and run deep you have compromised the next 2 right handers and all your speed on the main straight. Easy to lose .5 of a second by either missing the first apex or hitting the sausage curb.
The place I am seeing most lose heaps of time is at t1 Abbey. If you are too hot in there and miss the curb on apex then run wide of the exit curb, your going to run very wide at farm curve and then also be coming across the track into village corner. You want to hold a tight line around farm curve to be able to brake from the left into the village apex. If your still coming across from the right the corner is much tighter and you lose lots of speed here. The few car lengths gained by carrying more speed into t1 if you run wide is all thrown away plus more.
Onto hanger straight at becketts I assume as PLP and official track limits call the exit tarmac all valid track you can use all of that. Still the fastest way around the corner is braking early and taking some curb then straight line and on throttle towards the exit but not running too wide as that just scrubs speed.
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Here is a screen from Guyrbush after he kept trying to mount the sausage curbs, I guess he really likes them as he tried to mount them all for a few laps.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/671e/qgn3p3jc6f5lo496g.jpg) (https://www.mediafire.com/view/?qgn3p3jc6f5lo49)
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Great screen shot!
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Lol, less resistance in the air!
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Found a video thats the closest to jap pack racing at Silverstone International.
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Also shows here onto hanger straight they can use the full road as we can in game. There are some series that race there and put cones out to stop drivers going too wide. Seeing ingame the valid track is the same as above video then people probably shouldnt be too shy about going outside that white line at the first part of the exit. If you run too deep and over the curb you will get a cut track but thats kind of to be expected. ;D
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Sorry, not going to be able to make it tonight or next week.
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Sorry, not going to be able to make it tonight or next week.
OK, thanks.
Weather is 23, 24, 24 and light clouds.
A reminder that in race 1, Hornbag has 90kg penalty ballast, in race 2, Freezer and Bacchulum, in race 3, Mitchyy and Ben.
Server's up!
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Sorry guys won't be on tonight :(