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Title: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 09, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
GT3 - 1 long race per round with 2 pitstops or thereabouts. Pick a car and use it all season. Perhaps some kind of mandatory tyre requirement like 'x laps on hards' if practical. Success ballast like season 8.

Formula Renault - 1 sprint, 1longer race with pitstop, calculated ballast by lap time.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 09, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
Would it be worth allowing ABS and TC in the FR3.5?  It might make it more appealing for some.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 09, 2015, 07:26:15 PM
Would it be worth allowing ABS and TC in the FR3.5?  It might make it more appealing for some.

Waddaya think this is, a league of pussies?
We survived the old open wheelers. Let's give the trial race a go without the assists.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 09, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
Would it be worth allowing ABS and TC in the FR3.5?  It might make it more appealing for some.

Waddaya think this is, a league of pussies?

I'm just thinking that Marty will be back by then.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: grat on September 09, 2015, 09:04:51 PM
Personally, everything is so new that I am excited about both (though I'll probably be out of the country for the whole of December and early January, so I might miss the end of the season).

The Formula Renault is definitely more of a challenge for me, which is both a cool and a crap thing. The one-make sounds like a nice drivers' challenge, but the learning curve is really steep on these cars, and the car's setup is so complicated that I might have to give up on understanding what most of it is about (btw, Wally: how do you plan to deal with the 3 "versions" of the car and DRS?---Not even sure if it has DRS, as I do not see it in the ECU tab... I think you are hoping for 1.3 to have race-DRS working as Stefano mentioned. Am I right?).

The GT3 has the nice feature of the variance of the cars, which might create nice races. On the other hand, it is more similar to Season 8. So I might not learn as much as I am learning now.

All in all: I don't know what to vote for, but if any of you has good ideas and arguments, it might be easy to tilt my preference one way or the other.

ROLZ: any team preference?
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 09, 2015, 11:06:33 PM
From our past experiences, fast open wheelers are definitely harder to drive, and harder to have close racing with, requiring faster reactions. But I'm all for promoting diversity, especially as different people may have different skills with different types of cars.

I guess the three downforce packages for the FR are essentially 3 different cars. To make my life easier as admin, and maybe even more strategically interesting, you could choose one of the downforce packages and stick with it for half the season,  with the ability to swap packages half way through.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: marty on September 09, 2015, 11:14:30 PM
I vote fr3.5 as I may still miss a bit of the next season, Id want to do a full season 9f gt3 though.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 10, 2015, 07:54:18 AM
Just reading about the real FR series:

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With a view to rewarding pure performance, each weekend follows a format that is both simple and fair. Race days begin with a qualifying session followed by a race lasting 44 minutes and one lap, with the second race of the weekend also featuring a pit stop during which at least two tyres must be changed.

And a blurb about the real world downforce packages:

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Until now, FR3.5 teams have been free to set up their cars in whatever way they prefer – high downforce (for venues like Monaco or the Hungaroring), or low (for the likes of Monza). Most of the time, the need for both cornering and straightline speed has led to compromises of somewhere in between the two extremes.

That freedom of choice, however, is now about to end – at least partially. A change to the rules for 2015 means that teams will now all be forced to set up their cars to a low-downforce configuration for the first of the two races contested at each championship round. For Race 2, on the other hand, they are then free to adopt whatever downforce level they consider appropriate (like in previous years).

For ease of driving and reducing accidents, we could mandate the high downforce package. At the trial race, we'll try all 3 packages.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 10, 2015, 08:05:09 AM
...though I'll probably be out of the country for the whole of December and early January, so I might miss the end of the season).

...btw, Wally: how do you plan to deal with the 3 "versions" of the car and DRS?---Not even sure if it has DRS, as I do not see it in the ECU tab... I think you are hoping for 1.3 to have race-DRS working as Stefano mentioned. Am I right?)...
The season will be finished before December, most likely.

AC already has DRS for cars that support it. You have to bind a specific DRS key to activate and cancel DRS.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: grat on September 10, 2015, 08:38:33 AM
...though I'll probably be out of the country for the whole of December and early January, so I might miss the end of the season).

...btw, Wally: how do you plan to deal with the 3 "versions" of the car and DRS?---Not even sure if it has DRS, as I do not see it in the ECU tab... I think you are hoping for 1.3 to have race-DRS working as Stefano mentioned. Am I right?)...
The season will be finished before December, most likely.

AC already has DRS for cars that support it. You have to bind a specific DRS key to activate and cancel DRS.
Yes, I have it mapped. Just did not figure out whether it was working on the FR3.5. Will try again.

As for how to use it, I was referring to Stefano's recent work on implementing DRS zones (as opposed to activate DRS on every straight).
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Simone on September 10, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
I removed my vote and voted for an open wheeler season,sorry it was a mistake!
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Bacchulum on September 10, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
For ease of driving and reducing accidents, we could mandate the high downforce package. At the trial race, we'll try all 3 packages.
Sounds like a plan. ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Joe on September 10, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Are we to vote now or are we doing a race in each first? I've never driven either type of car in AC so I have no idea.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 10, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
Wally I'm pretty sure they withdraw the rule due to safety which required a low downforce setup for one race.  I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Matthew111 on September 10, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
I have been keen to do a gt3 season for a while but those formula renos are really fun and these lotus's are pretty much gt cars so might be worthwhile breaking up the seasons with the open wheelers in the middle plus hopefully the followig season the gt3 lambo will be out so more cars :)
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 10, 2015, 06:23:53 PM
Are we to vote now or are we doing a race in each first? I've never driven either type of car in AC so I have no idea.

As with previous polls, you can vote now, and you can always change your vote after trial races, like we did with season 8. Some of the votes changed dramatically after actually driving the cars.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 10, 2015, 06:27:09 PM
Wally I'm pretty sure they withdraw the rule due to safety which required a low downforce setup for one race.  I could be wrong though.

I know they definitely did it for Spa. I don't know if it's a permanent rule change for the rest of the season. It gives us some idea of the kinds of rules they impose though. We'll see what's what after a trial race using each downforce package.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: marty on September 10, 2015, 09:00:51 PM
Would it be worth allowing ABS and TC in the FR3.5?  It might make it more appealing for some.

Waddaya think this is, a league of pussies?

I'm just thinking that Marty will be back by then.

We all know your a full blown aids infected alien, nice try saying I need them for your own benefit.  ;)

The only driving I have done was some rather quick speeds in Japan. Speed limits seem optional when a 10km tunnel with 60kmh speed limit doing 120 is a hazard in the right lane with cars passing at 200kmh plus at times lol. Also saw this car on the roads last week which looked pretty cool.

(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f466/w73moox3s0xj3ej4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/w73moox3s0xj3ej/20150905_064254(0).jpg)

In Thailand speed isnt a good option as the roads are shit and other drivers and pedestrians are fairly insane. I managed to catch this while trying to catch some of the typical thai insanity on the roads.

[youtube]vzOWXYMuZjM[/youtube]

Today was even funnier as on the run back to the hotel we had a dog middle of the road nearly every corner, then there was a cow followed by a pig in the middle of the same road. Hasnt been a single animal on the road til now then they all got a bit crazy maybe with the hot sun or coming storms.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Phil.8 on September 10, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
I like the pink band aid holding the bumper on the merc
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 10, 2015, 09:47:57 PM
I guarantee those peds you guys almost hit were from a country where you drive on the right hand side of the road.  You naturally become accustomed to walking across the road and looking to the right/left.

When I was in Sweden I was too scared to walk across the roads at big intersections without pedestrian lights as I didn't know where the cars would be coming from!
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: grat on September 10, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
I correct it for you:
drive on the right hand side of the road.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 10, 2015, 10:29:37 PM
I just gave the FR a bit of a blast. What a ride! It's an awesome mod.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 14, 2015, 08:10:59 PM
With DLC#2 due soon, featuring the Lambo Huracan GT3, that might have a bearing on the car choice for season 9. It might be a matter of timing.

Out of interest, who would NOT buy the DLC?

Maybe if we do a FR3.5 season first, we might have more GT3 cars to choose from, and might have DLC available at a Steam discount too.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: grat on September 14, 2015, 08:37:49 PM
Hi Wally,

I am pretty sure you know all this, but from the last stream from Stefano it looks like:

1. if we go for FR we won't have a detection zones for the DRS. Personally, I would not mind if they give us a chance to simply block it on the server, but as it is not part of the setup, I doubt it will be on the fixed setup update.
2. GT3 tyres will be updated all at once, but this might be for 1.3 or an update mid-season.

I guess we should take also these things in consideration. I.e., if we would like to use the DRS, then why not to delay a FR season to when it will be better implemented. Just my 2 very stupid pennies.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Bacchulum on September 14, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
Grat, the FR3.5 doesn't have DRS anyway.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: grat on September 14, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
Grat, the FR3.5 doesn't have DRS anyway.

Oh,... I thought I was said it had... Not that I saw any, but... Anyway: thanks for letting me know.

Just one other thing: FR will probably also be the first mod to get the new tyre model...

Why, oh, why it is all so complicated!
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
by next season we will be only people playing if this trend continues http://steamcharts.com/app/244210,   Can,t get a race on public servers anymore, they all dead.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Wally on September 14, 2015, 10:48:14 PM
by next season we will be only people playing if this trend continues http://steamcharts.com/app/244210,   Can,t get a race on public servers anymore, they all dead.

That chart looks pretty static. Neither growth nor loss in numbers.
All we need is 24 people at XGN :)
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Phil.8 on September 15, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
yeah, I am just sad I cant hop on and find a race  anymore
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Joe on September 15, 2015, 10:25:37 AM
Even Marty's servers were empty this weekend. I jumped on on Friday for a while and all servers were empty.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Simone on September 15, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
yeah, I am just sad I cant hop on and find a race  anymore

Plenty of races in Iracing Phil
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 15, 2015, 12:45:17 PM
yeah, I am just sad I cant hop on and find a race  anymore

Plenty of races in Iracing Phil

If you want to wait an hour between drinks ;)  I'm sure things have improved from when I used iRacing though.

I haven't noticed any real luls to be honest.  I think it depends on the time of day.  If it's between 7pm and 11pm Marty's servers are usually busy (or if not it doesn't take long), and during the day there are always full servers in Europe - usually the ALOOG one (if you don't mind racing Spa in a GT car for the 2 billionth time) or some of the german / french ones.

Strangely there doesn't seem to be many UK servers...

But every update is a shot in the arm when it comes to players online.
Title: Re: Poll: Season 9
Post by: Simone on September 15, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
It has change Guy,beside,i only play with private leagues and as i said there are plenty AUS  seasons to choose from.In saying this it is frustrating  at times to participate in public races  with iracing,it would be almost impossible with assetto corsa
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