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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on March 14, 2017, 11:19:25 PM
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This is an enduro round - one race of 32 laps. You will need the OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/mv9y8vyp0psi4r4/Barcelona_GP_MOTO_OSRW_36pits_AC1.7.rar) installed in the track.
All enduros have 1 compulsory pit stop, where you must change tyres. Refuelling is not allowed.
Weather Forecast (http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Spain/Catalunya-Circuit.aspx) (outlook is 22 and mid clear)
Jimmy and Slow As will have 40 kg penalty ballast.
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For the enduro's is it worth having fuel stops as well to add a further dimension?
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For the enduro's is it worth having fuel stops as well to add a further dimension?
I'm keeping it as per the real life Carrera Cup rules.
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I've just set up the server from my phone so haven't checked it actually working. Should be okay. I also turned off tyre blankets as requested by grat.
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Ive put up one of my servers for this combo "Marty's xgn.com.au" using the same temps but with tyre warmers on but setup for short qualy and short race format. If Joes has the long full race setup without tyre warmers with a long practice session it gives people a chance to try both. Setup wise it should be much the same except the car will be good from pit exit or race start and even in the short sessions should be ok to tune a setup then try it on the no tyre warmers server to see the difference.
The server is using the xgn whitelist again as I tried another MR auth method that was still giving join lags so I reverted back to the old method. Any newer members that cant get into my server PM me your GUID and I will add you to the whitelist for the server.
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Can we use the Moto version please as someone oughta put a bomb under that last chicane.
Yeah....totally agree with that! Please use the MotoGP version with the 2 fast right handers leading onto the main straight! That chicane is like Seanus said, it needs to be bombed 🙂.
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Can we use the Moto version please as someone oughta put a bomb under that last chicane.
Yeah....totally agree with that! Please use the MotoGP version with the 2 fast right handers leading onto the main straight! That chicane is like Seanus said, it needs to be bombed 🙂.
Yeah but Seanus has that opinion about every single chicane in history which is probably why he was crawling around the one at Paul Ricard ;)
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For the enduro's is it worth having fuel stops as well to add a further dimension?
Aristotelis from KS says:
AC tyre wear now is greatly depended on load. That means that full fuel load can change A LOT the way the tyre is consumed.
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More fuel will likely help get tyres to temp early as the temps aren't going to be that warm, the chicane I think is one of the best corners on the track. Those that hate it give up lots of time so become easy pickings down the main straight and into t1. ;D
Its a corner you simply need some patience, its very slow and so not much point trying to drive it too fast. Go wide on the first part your going to be way out of position in the next part, be patient on entry and hit both apexes for a good exit and gain on the car in front. An error there can easily cost 1 or more seconds before reaching t1 so its a critical part of the lap, more so then any of the faster corners.
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For the enduro's is it worth having fuel stops as well to add a further dimension?
I'm keeping it as per the real life Carrera Cup rules.
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Wally said "Carrera' Cup, not "Super" Cup. ;)
(I'm not the only one who doesn't read posts fully)
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Wally said "Carrera' Cup, not "Super" Cup. ;)
(I'm not the only one who doesn't read posts fully)
Ok here you go Carrera Cup France in Spain. ;)
[youtube]lGIuXFjS6N0[/youtube]
Porsche Supercup is the top level in these cars, carrera cup is generally the lower levels below the FIA top tier supercup. Only bikes raced the moto layout but I think last years motogp had the chicane layout after there was a death on the moto section in a lower class. Not sure if they will race the chicane or not but those sausage kerbs coming off a bike couldn't be too nice to go over with your butt.
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My reference to real life was in relation to refueling only, not track layouts :)
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If Marty is so enamoured with chicanes perhaps I should make it the 1994 layout where they stuck tyre bundles in to make a chicane. :(
I didn't choose the version and simply linked to show the versions used in the real races there which was the admins reason for this version. I have no issues with chicane, the only way to overcome your issues with it is to take it on not avoid it. ;)
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For the enduro's is it worth having fuel stops as well to add a further dimension?
Aristotelis from KS says:
AC tyre wear now is greatly depended on load. That means that full fuel load can change A LOT the way the tyre is consumed.
No problem just thought i would throw if out there. ..
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Not sure if they will race the chicane or not but those sausage kerbs coming off a bike couldn't be too nice to go over with your butt.
They've built a new chicane for the bikes now, no one uses the old section anymore. ;)
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I didn't choose the version and simply linked to show the versions used in the real races there which was the admins reason for this version. I have no issues with chicane, the only way to overcome your issues with it is to take it on not avoid it. ;)
http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1835.msg35167#msg35167
;)
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Wally said "Carrera' Cup, not "Super" Cup. ;)
(I'm not the only one who doesn't read posts fully)
Ok here you go Carrera Cup France in Spain. ;)
[youtube]lGIuXFjS6N0[/youtube]
Porsche Supercup is the top level in these cars, carrera cup is generally the lower levels below the FIA top tier supercup. Only bikes raced the moto layout but I think last years motogp had the chicane layout after there was a death on the moto section in a lower class. Not sure if they will race the chicane or not but those sausage kerbs coming off a bike couldn't be too nice to go over with your butt.
Nice video and good commentary. He says a few times how you have to be careful about picking up the throttle.
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Did some practice races last night here and am amazed its actually harder to pass here then Paul Ricard was, not sure if its dirty air but getting into a good position against someone that doesnt make a mistake is quite an effort. Best chance is if someone royally stuffs the last chicane and you dont, its a tricky bugger though but does give the best real chance to make a pass by nailing that and getting a good run to t1.
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
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I made it. 8)
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
who cares about the race, one race a week is enough in these
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I only ever intended doing 5-6 laps, to experience tyre warm up. ;)
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
who cares about the race, one race a week is enough in these
Sorry I even mentioned anything. ::)
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hey phil ..do you like the pink floyd? 8) 8) 8) 8)
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yep, love pink floyd
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
Having two practice servers is probably quite confusing. If you're allowing us to use your servers again maybe I'll just switch it back.
But yeah, no wait time was not intentional.
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
Having two practice servers is probably quite confusing. If you're allowing us to use your servers again maybe I'll just switch it back.
But yeah, no wait time was not intentional.
Dont think its all that confusing, mine is setup with tyre blankets, 100% grip, short qualy plus race mostly as Id rather race people then run longer sessions. Yours has full length sessions with no tyre blankets so people that want to do long runs can go in there and also test without tyre blankets. Its the way ROOZ run their league practice servers and works pretty well I think. A few guys have complained here when we were racing in the practice server so having a second server with the longer sessions isnt a bad thing.
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Joes practice server seems setup rather odd, 60 min practice, 15 min qualy and 32 lap race. Yet you dont even have time to finish a qualy lap as the session ends at 0 and from that point you seem to have less then 10 seconds to add fuel to go to the grid. A server with such long sessions to me seems fairly pointless trying to save time between the sessions by cutting this time down to the bare mimimum to the point where most wont even make the grid for a race that will last 1 hour. ::)
Having two practice servers is probably quite confusing. If you're allowing us to use your servers again maybe I'll just switch it back.
But yeah, no wait time was not intentional.
Dont think its all that confusing, mine is setup with tyre blankets, 100% grip, short qualy plus race mostly as Id rather race people then run longer sessions. Yours has full length sessions with no tyre blankets so people that want to do long runs can go in there and also test without tyre blankets. Its the way ROOZ run their league practice servers and works pretty well I think. A few guys have complained here when we were racing in the practice server so having a second server with the longer sessions isnt a bad thing.
https://youtu.be/Cv5uuhkS4j8?list=PLK9xj2KuBlHF76vWc4PxXBPFdFrR-Vj1n
One of my old time Pink Floyd songs,and album.......Ricordi indimenticabili,,.........indimenticabili!!!
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You are random Simone. ;)
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top album
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Wally: my brake pedal is spiking in all sorts of ways (on when off and off when on). After some contact cleaning and so on, it seemed to only need a deadzone, but I can see that any now and then it is off when I am pressing quite hard, actually.
I am probably dangerous for racing and I am ordering new pedals. I'll monitor the situation and tell you on Tuesday itself if I can be in this week.
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You are random Simone. ;)
Don't you love it
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Wally: my brake pedal is spiking in all sorts of ways (on when off and off when on). After some contact cleaning and so on, it seemed to only need a deadzone, but I can see that any now and then it is off when I am pressing quite hard, actually.
I am probably dangerous for racing and I am ordering new pedals. I'll monitor the situation and tell you on Tuesday itself if I can be in this week.
That's annoying. Good luck getting them fixed. If you can't make it, maybe I should ask Marty to drive your car for the team and give us a decent points haul ;)
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Unfortunately I confirm that the brake pedal is completely gone---some signal any now and then, but fundamentally random. So I am off for this week's race.
I have ordered new pedals and should be here by the end of the week. So hopefully I am back for next race. If there is space, please leave my car in: I might join to spectate.
Feel free to give the team seat to Marty or whoever you deem fit, of course.
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Alright, you'll certainly still have a grid spot. Try to put Phil and Joe off if you can.
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Alright, you'll certainly still have a grid spot. Try to put Phil and Joe off if you can.
Should I come on teamspeak and scream "Phil! Your house's on fire!!!" while he is pushing hard for position?
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Unfortunately I confirm that the brake pedal is completely gone---some signal any now and then, but fundamentally random. So I am off for this week's race.
I have ordered new pedals and should be here by the end of the week. So hopefully I am back for next race. If there is space, please leave my car in: I might join to spectate.
Feel free to give the team seat to Marty or whoever you deem fit, of course.
That sucks dude, but new pedals!! What did ya get? Inverted V3s?
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Unfortunately I confirm that the brake pedal is completely gone---some signal any now and then, but fundamentally random. So I am off for this week's race.
I have ordered new pedals and should be here by the end of the week. So hopefully I am back for next race. If there is space, please leave my car in: I might join to spectate.
Feel free to give the team seat to Marty or whoever you deem fit, of course.
That sucks dude, but new pedals!! What did ya get? Inverted V3s?
nah, just the standard ones. The inverted ones look really cool, but they are mighty expensive...
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Unfortunately I confirm that the brake pedal is completely gone---some signal any now and then, but fundamentally random. So I am off for this week's race.
I have ordered new pedals and should be here by the end of the week. So hopefully I am back for next race. If there is space, please leave my car in: I might join to spectate.
Feel free to give the team seat to Marty or whoever you deem fit, of course.
That sucks dude, but new pedals!! What did ya get? Inverted V3s?
nah, just the standard ones. The inverted ones look really cool, but they are mighty expensive...
Holy sheet they are; hadn't looked at the price. Hope you got the damper kit though ;)
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Unfortunately I confirm that the brake pedal is completely gone---some signal any now and then, but fundamentally random. So I am off for this week's race.
I have ordered new pedals and should be here by the end of the week. So hopefully I am back for next race. If there is space, please leave my car in: I might join to spectate.
Feel free to give the team seat to Marty or whoever you deem fit, of course.
Yep, thanks to Phil's warm recommendation.
That sucks dude, but new pedals!! What did ya get? Inverted V3s?
nah, just the standard ones. The inverted ones look really cool, but they are mighty expensive...
Holy sheet they are; hadn't looked at the price. Hope you got the damper kit though ;)
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The bounciness of this track makes me feel a bit queasy for the first few laps while wearing my Oculus Rift.
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The bounciness of this track makes me feel a bit queasy for the first few laps while wearing my Oculus Rift.
Where is it bouncy? Maybe you notice it more in the Rift.
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The bounciness of this track makes me feel a bit queasy for the first few laps while wearing my Oculus Rift.
Where is it bouncy? Maybe you notice it more in the Rift.
Maybe you can try adjust the g-force effects in the launcher settings, I think by default these make it fairly bouncy in most cars. I assume they still have an effect using a rift and reducing this should reduce extra motion effects. I dont think Barcelona is all that bumpy unless going over the sausage kerbs in the last chicane but there you want to avoid hitting them to be able to stay in control and carry more speed.
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The bounciness of this track makes me feel a bit queasy for the first few laps while wearing my Oculus Rift.
Where is it bouncy? Maybe you notice it more in the Rift.
Try lock camera to horizon in visual settings Works for me with Vive, Dave O.
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The bounciness of this track makes me feel a bit queasy for the first few laps while wearing my Oculus Rift.
Where is it bouncy? Maybe you notice it more in the Rift.
Try lock camera to horizon in visual settings Works for me with Vive, Dave O.
I didn't know you had a Vive Dave.
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I have found it bumpy myself in the first few corners but now i got used to it a bit.
It wont be a stroll in the park for me.... :o
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I have found it bumpy myself in the first few corners but now i got used to it a bit.
It wont be a stroll in the park for me.... :o
An hour long race should be a good concentration test!
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Yeah had the Vive for a few weeks actually Wally but had no end of problems trying to get it up and running when I first got it. :(
Turned out to be my PC was the the problem in the end. Passed the Steam vr test no problem, but it wouldn't run the Vive.
I upgraded PC to a i7 7700k and a 1070GTX and all is good now. ;D Would have signed up for this season but not sure if it would
it would handle a field of 20-30 drivers. I don't think I could go back monitors after VR it really is something else, but very resource
hungry :o Cheers Dave O.
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I don't think I could go back monitors after VR it really is something else
Hear this a lot and is main reason I don't think I can make the jump yet. A lot of my practice if when the kids are up, watching TV or playing in the same room or whatever and I need to be aware what they are doing. If I could happily switch between monitors and VR it would be fine, but could I actually do that :o
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I notice the bumps from about T3 - T7. It takes a few laps to get accustomed every time I get in there.
I'm not going to go and change settings for the camera to be locked or unlocked from the horizon. This track is an exception and I haven't noticed this issue anywhere else.
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I don't think I could go back monitors after VR it really is something else
Hear this a lot and is main reason I don't think I can make the jump yet. A lot of my practice if when the kids are up, watching TV or playing in the same room or whatever and I need to be aware what they are doing. If I could happily switch between monitors and VR it would be fine, but could I actually do that :o
I reckon it would be too much hassle to just switch between both.
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I notice the bumps from about T3 - T7. It takes a few laps to get accustomed every time I get in there.
I'm not going to go and change settings for the camera to be locked or unlocked from the horizon. This track is an exception and I haven't noticed this issue anywhere else.
Your call :) no editing required, just a tick in the box, thought it might be worth a try :)
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Yeah had the Vive for a few weeks actually Wally but had no end of problems trying to get it up and running when I first got it. :(
Turned out to be my PC was the the problem in the end. Passed the Steam vr test no problem, but it wouldn't run the Vive.
I upgraded PC to a i7 7700k and a 1070GTX and all is good now. ;D Would have signed up for this season but not sure if it would
it would handle a field of 20-30 drivers. I don't think I could go back monitors after VR it really is something else, but very resource
hungry :o Cheers Dave O.
Have you tried running with lots of AI, its still unlikely we will get much more then 26 here with only 24 starters round one but I could be wrong. If you can run 24-30 AI then theoretically in MP it should run no worse as the cpu has much less to do in MP when its not calculating all the AI drivers.
I notice the bumps from about T3 - T7. It takes a few laps to get accustomed every time I get in there.
I'm not going to go and change settings for the camera to be locked or unlocked from the horizon. This track is an exception and I haven't noticed this issue anywhere else.
Must be a VR specific thing then as this track to me on a standard triple screen setup is no bumpier then any other.
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Yeah had the Vive for a few weeks actually Wally but had no end of problems trying to get it up and running when I first got it. :(
Turned out to be my PC was the the problem in the end. Passed the Steam vr test no problem, but it wouldn't run the Vive.
I upgraded PC to a i7 7700k and a 1070GTX and all is good now. ;D Would have signed up for this season but not sure if it would
it would handle a field of 20-30 drivers. I don't think I could go back monitors after VR it really is something else, but very resource
hungry :o Cheers Dave O.
Have you tried running with lots of AI, its still unlikely we will get much more then 26 here with only 24 starters round one but I could be wrong. If you can run 24-30 AI then theoretically in MP it should run no worse as the cpu has much less to do in MP when its not calculating all the AI drivers.
I notice the bumps from about T3 - T7. It takes a few laps to get accustomed every time I get in there.
I'm not going to go and change settings for the camera to be locked or unlocked from the horizon. This track is an exception and I haven't noticed this issue anywhere else.
Must be a VR specific thing then as this track to me on a standard triple screen setup is no bumpier then any other.
I think t5 is famous for its steep bumps at the apex, and I think that's why the f1 line is to avoid the apex and stay a bit more in the mid of the track. Also, t9 (the very fast right hander) is known for the bumps (for example, Sirotkin was talking about how different 2017 f1 cars were more or less table over those bumps in a recent interview in motorsport.com).
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Gents, as I was saying I don't think I'll make tonight. I'll head back from eastern creek at around 6, so I'll be home by 7-8, tired, in need of a dinner, etc...I'd be a liability on the track afterwards I think, so I won't force the issue. Have fun!
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i found it bumpy, anyone who doesn't probably is running the gyro setting which adds damper at speed
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Comment about the track surface from the weather forecast website:
The track surface of The Catalunya Circuit tends to be quite rough and will take its toll on the F1 tyres. Those Formula 1 drivers who have been struggling with tyre wear over the course of the Formula one Grand Prix season may find this a challenging track.
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Gents, as I was saying I don't think I'll make tonight. I'll head back from eastern creek at around 6, so I'll be home by 7-8, tired, in need of a dinner, etc...I'd be a liability on the track afterwards I think, so I won't force the issue. Have fun!
Have fun on the real track.
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From the weather forecast website:
The track surface of The Catalunya Circuit tends to be quite rough and will take its toll on the F1 tyres. Those Formula 1 drivers who have been struggling with tyre wear over the course of the Formula one Grand Prix season may find this a challenging track
If I use a microscope I might be able to read the weather forecast Wally ;D
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From the weather forecast website:
The track surface of The Catalunya Circuit tends to be quite rough and will take its toll on the F1 tyres. Those Formula 1 drivers who have been struggling with tyre wear over the course of the Formula one Grand Prix season may find this a challenging track
If I use a microscope I might be able to read the weather forecast Wally ;D
Fixed. It's about the track. It happens every time I cut and paste on my phone :(
Weather wise, it will be a mild 23.
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Will be interesting to see how many we get this round, Ive done the last couple of rounds with ROOZ league in their Porsche cup season and they have had 30 and 28 starters. We only got 24 of 32 last round but they do have 37 signed up vs our 32. Seems 6 to 8 miss most rounds so my guess is we may max out at 26 starters this season which will equal the xgn grid record but will we maybe break that this season?
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Interesting. That's a healthy pool of racers. What night do they race?
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I've been keeping an eye on ROOZ for a little while; it's where Rolz races now and I sometimes pop on their praccy servers. If I had the time I'd race there too but 2 nights a week is as much as I can get away with at the moment ;D Mael is another who also races with them.
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Server's up.
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Sorry, folks. I'm going to miss tonight's race. I've a date with the Mrs.
See you next round
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Probably wont make race due to major PC issues . .
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I too have pc issues, just when i thought i fixed my gpu issues they came back with a vengeance tonight couldnt even load windows without a driver failure... so back to the drawing board may try reinstall windows. So annoying since i was using it all weekend perfectly but come the one night i need it, it crashes...
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Bad luck with the PC issues guys. I hope you can get it all sorted out.