With rules for track limits and redress I assume that if you make a pass or avoid losing a position by going outside track limits you should also give back the position.Yes, good point. I'll update the rules. Basically, if you gain track position unfairly, you need to redress it.
How about on a track like Vallelunga where the normal racing line allows use of all 4 wheels beyond the kerb as I have seen in most real onboard videos. Also ingame cutting penalty allows this as does RSR app as in this video at 1:00 into turn 12. In the lotus vs KTM race I didnt use this line as I wasnt sure plus in those cars it is better to stay inside the kerb anyway.We had this discussion in the netKar league, and because every track has different run-off variations which not everyone will be aware of, to keep it simple with a minimum of thought required, the rule will be to keep at least one wheel between the white lines everywhere.
Sign me up please :)Hi Phil and welcome. Can you PM me your Assetto Corsa GUID (your driver ID, e.g. 76561197992453305). You can find your GUID in My documents/assetto corsa/cfg/race.ini. I'll use this to add you to the entry list (so you don't have to book a session). Do you want to race under the name "Phil"? That's also set in the entry list.
Sign me up please :)Welcome!
All, is it worth stipulating that every has to use a PRO mode of realism? Is that going to cause anyone huge grief? I don't know if anyone relies on an auto-clutch. You can't enforce this via the server (yet).
All, is it worth stipulating that every has to use a PRO mode of realism? Is that going to cause anyone huge grief? I don't know if anyone relies on an auto-clutch. You can't enforce this via the server (yet).
Probably a silly question as I may be blind or stupid but quite likely a combination of both :) I assume this is starting this week as I dont see any start date anywhere.
Looks as if I will miss the last 2 rounds unless you don't mind a high ping from Xi'an, off there for 2 weeks with the new job :)
So the season is now wide open ?)
dammit... it's my fav car! Bummer I missed out on tonight... need to set up notifications to keep an eye on this :'(NEXT WEEK JUNE 10! :)
dammit... it's my fav car! Bummer I missed out on tonight... need to set up notifications to keep an eye on this :'(Hey Rolz, we have the Monza fun race next Thursday Jun 5, then the BMW season is Tuesday Jun 10.
Sign me up please :)
And reading classes for marty and Rolz on Wednesday.
:P :P :-* ;)
Count me in Wally if there's still room. Dave O.Yep, you're in.
And reading classes for marty and Rolz on Wednesday.
:P :P :-* ;)
I'd like to sign up if possible please, I do intend on sticking around for the whole season.Hi Phil, I need your GUID to identify you on the grid. Check your messages - the "My Messages" link at the top menu. I've sent you some messages about how to find your GUID.
I'm in Wally, but my work schedule means I cannot 100% commit to turning up each week... So probably as a reserve if things are filling up quick. Hate to take someones spot who is able to be more commited.I'll put you on the grid with a note that you could be a reserve. At this stage there's room for you.
Yep fair enough call Wally... I'll try my hardest to keep you posted. As always tho, no hard feelings lost if you feel the need to shaft me :PI like you Mopz, but not in that way.
You're expected to stay within the white lines with at least 1 wheel all the time. Having said that, we've been allowed to use the marked runoffs in nkp with all fours :)The last couple of seasons we've stuck within the white lines at all times, with no specified runoffs exempt.
count me in please!Hi, and welcome! I've put you down as a reserve so far. If people don't turn up, you'll get a race. Can you PM me your GUID please so I can add you to the entry list. You can find your GUID in My documents/assetto corsa/cfg/race.ini.
At Acque Minerale, I'm sure to go out wide to the left after the first right hander, and then brake early and take an early apex on the second right hander, taking a little kerb. Bear in mind that you'll be expected to keep at least one wheel between the white lines and not run wide to the left of the track here.
At the fist Rivazza, I brake fairly early because of the downhill speed you carry there, and then kind of drift into the apex.
Don't know if that helps :)
It would be really nice if you could exchange ghost replay files. That would be a great learning tool.
At Acque Minerale, I'm sure to go out wide to the left after the first right hander, and then brake early and take an early apex on the second right hander, taking a little kerb. Bear in mind that you'll be expected to keep at least one wheel between the white lines and not run wide to the left of the track here.
At the fist Rivazza, I brake fairly early because of the downhill speed you carry there, and then kind of drift into the apex.
Don't know if that helps :)
It would be really nice if you could exchange ghost replay files. That would be a great learning tool.
Thanks Wally! You are all becoming mentors of mine. So I do actually listen to you all. absorbing it all and getting it into practice takes time.
Even if I drove straight through every chicane, you will all still beat me! lol
Yes, sharing ghost's would be helpful. Seeing telemetry in a replay is also helpful.
At Acque Minerale, I'm sure to go out wide to the left after the first right hander, and then brake early and take an early apex on the second right hander, taking a little kerb. Bear in mind that you'll be expected to keep at least one wheel between the white lines and not run wide to the left of the track here.
At the fist Rivazza, I brake fairly early because of the downhill speed you carry there, and then kind of drift into the apex.
Don't know if that helps :)
It would be really nice if you could exchange ghost replay files. That would be a great learning tool.
Thanks Wally! You are all becoming mentors of mine. So I do actually listen to you all. absorbing it all and getting it into practice takes time.
Even if I drove straight through every chicane, you will all still beat me! lol
Yes, sharing ghost's would be helpful. Seeing telemetry in a replay is also helpful.
Did you see where I put a download link to my ghost file a few posts back? I'd be curious if you can get that to work in your game.
Take a look at the attached file. It's some kind of telemetry file. Try dropping this in your Documents\Assetto Corsa\ctelemetry\player folder and see what happens. Maybe it shows up in the telemetry screen you can see when you're in the pits as an opponent car to compare your telemetry against.
Or.... here's my ghost car: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bpndlgbxnb9fhg4/GHOST_CAR_Wally%20Masterson_bmw_m3_e30_gra.ghost
You can put this in your Documents\Assetto Corsa\GhostCar\imola folder.
You may have to back up your existing ghost car file, and then change my name in the file name to yours.
I will be happy to just stay between the fences. ;D
I have been racing the M3 E30 quite a bit and can catch its back end more often than not. Love Imola but still am 10seconds off the pace.
I know I need to improve on the back of Imola.
How do you pros drive the E30 through Acque Minerali? Sideways?
Coming into the 1st Rivazza can un-stick me too but it's sweet to get sideways though there. Where do you guy break?
I will be happy to just stay between the fences. ;D
I have been racing the M3 E30 quite a bit and can catch its back end more often than not. Love Imola but still am 10seconds off the pace.
I know I need to improve on the back of Imola.
How do you pros drive the E30 through Acque Minerali? Sideways?
Coming into the 1st Rivazza can un-stick me too but it's sweet to get sideways though there. Where do you guy break?
Well, I'm not a pro, but as soon as you start to slide going through the second right you are giving away a ton of speed on the following run to the chicane. So tame that rear end Ko.
The way I tackle it is to take just a fraction of curb going into the first right and than brake early toward the outside of the track so you can turn in, hit the inside curb and start to power on just as you get to that apex. So pretty much what Wally said. They key is not to brake too heavily between the 1st and 2nd right as you are still turning and will upset the car, so better to brake early than late for it.
I will be happy to just stay between the fences. ;D
I have been racing the M3 E30 quite a bit and can catch its back end more often than not. Love Imola but still am 10seconds off the pace.
I know I need to improve on the back of Imola.
How do you pros drive the E30 through Acque Minerali? Sideways?
Coming into the 1st Rivazza can un-stick me too but it's sweet to get sideways though there. Where do you guy break?
Well, I'm not a pro, but as soon as you start to slide going through the second right you are giving away a ton of speed on the following run to the chicane. So tame that rear end Ko.
The way I tackle it is to take just a fraction of curb going into the first right and than brake early toward the outside of the track so you can turn in, hit the inside curb and start to power on just as you get to that apex. So pretty much what Wally said. They key is not to brake too heavily between the 1st and 2nd right as you are still turning and will upset the car, so better to brake early than late for it.
Excellent advice!
I think that better brake early is true in almost all corners. Exit speed is the name of the game, plus
- the car wobbles a lot when you change between brake/throttle
- it turns better with throttle on
so it's best to be done with the braking before the apex, and take the apex with some throttle applied
I know that the sound of rubber squealing is the sound of speed being lost. But if they aren't, just, squealing you aren't pushing right?The sounds in a game aren't always real! ;) In this case they're a bit exaggerated. There are also levels of tyre sounds. The first level is the good level; you're on the limit.
Quote from: Dick ForrestI know that the sound of rubber squealing is the sound of speed being lost. But if they aren't, just, squealing you aren't pushing right?The sounds in a game aren't always real! ;) In this case they're a bit exaggerated. There are also levels of tyre sounds. The first level is the good level; you're on the limit.
Yeah, it's not that you must brake in a straight line - you can't always do that - just do it before the apex. If the rear kicks out too much, you can either adjust the setup (most obvious thing to change: brake balance to the front, i.e. increase the percentage) but you'll give away some braking power this way, pretty soon.
Or you can adjust your driving style;
- either don't apply full braking, ever. Really, about 50-80% pedal travel is where you need to operate.
- or: lots of sim racers apply a bit of throttle in sticky situations. It stabilises the rear. You need to left-foot brake for this, of course.
A trick: if things go completely belly up, and you know you won't be able to save it conventionally, you can jump on the brake AND the throttle and pull the car out of really nasty slides, sometimes.
But all in all; just keep practising. It takes time to get used to things. I've found that for me the best way to get a handle on a new sim/car is to practice at different tracks. Maybe you can try it; run half-hour sessions at each track of the season. Especially good if you know the track already, somewhat.
Get rid of track maps :) They are highly detrimental IMHO.
You can learn a regular track layout in about an hour or less - but with the map it takes longer, and you won't watch the more important things.
Eventually you need to know the corners without seeing them (when someone in front blocks your view!)
Concentrate on the surrounds, drive the first few laps really slow (as you'd normally do) watch the trackside marks (most corners have those 300-200-100-50 signs) and watch the track surface for marks: most cars you can pull up safely if you start 10-20m before the start of the tyre marks.
I think it's much more productive this way.
Then once you know the track fairly well (you can drive it in your mind - which is also a good exercise) then look at the track map, and identify if your feeling for a corner matches the map. Sometimes I can work out why a corner seems slower than it is by the map.
And watch other people's driving (real/sim) the track for tricks. But I reckon these exercises are really only helpful after you've learned the track layout (the initial one hour session).
Disclaimer: this won't work in an hour at Nordschleife :D
Edit:
oh, one more very good exercise can be - even early on - is to follow someone who knows the track well. Ask them to drive relatively slow, and follow them. In 5 laps you'll learn a lot. And I mean a lot. We've done this sort of thing all the time, and it always works best for quickly learning tracks.
I'm happy to do this with you if you like, I know pretty much all the track layouts by now :) But we need to organise an official practice night - thursday to sunday somewhere, probably.
Get rid of track maps :) They are highly detrimental IMHO.
You can learn a regular track layout in about an hour or less - but with the map it takes longer, and you won't watch the more important things.
Eventually you need to know the corners without seeing them (when someone in front blocks your view!)
Concentrate on the surrounds, drive the first few laps really slow (as you'd normally do) watch the trackside marks (most corners have those 300-200-100-50 signs) and watch the track surface for marks: most cars you can pull up safely if you start 10-20m before the start of the tyre marks.
I think it's much more productive this way.
Then once you know the track fairly well (you can drive it in your mind - which is also a good exercise) then look at the track map, and identify if your feeling for a corner matches the map. Sometimes I can work out why a corner seems slower than it is by the map.
And watch other people's driving (real/sim) the track for tricks. But I reckon these exercises are really only helpful after you've learned the track layout (the initial one hour session).
Disclaimer: this won't work in an hour at Nordschleife :D
Edit:
oh, one more very good exercise can be - even early on - is to follow someone who knows the track well. Ask them to drive relatively slow, and follow them. In 5 laps you'll learn a lot. And I mean a lot. We've done this sort of thing all the time, and it always works best for quickly learning tracks.
I'm happy to do this with you if you like, I know pretty much all the track layouts by now :) But we need to organise an official practice night - thursday to sunday somewhere, probably.
I can't set the temperature on the server. 1st race is 11am and 2nd is 2pm, from memory.
I've mine set to the pro requirement, 26C
Won't be able to make Round 2 (Silverstone). Wally, please replace me with a reserve for this round. Will be back for Round 3 :)Thanks, will do.
Seems to be my night for presents ;)
Yes. Are you sure it allows 26? A post I've read said 24.
Yes. Are you sure it allows 26? A post I've read said 24.