[Wally]

Here's some of the contact information I have pulled out of the server logs for Nurburgring race 2. Note how high some of the reported speeds are! No wonder there's billiard ball collisions.

I hope to be able to "clump" these contacts together, because a lot of these are all the after affects of the one turn 1 incident.


Session: Race - Race 2 (15 laps)

Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 252 kph.
Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Guybrush Threepwood [Achilles Heels] at 88 kph.
Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 83 kph.
Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 219 kph.
Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 387 kph.
Lap 1: Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 188 kph.

Lap 1: Paul [Krahl Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 256 kph.
Lap 1: Paul [Krahl Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 151 kph.

Lap 1: Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 49 kph.
Lap 1: Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 242 kph.
Lap 1: Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 82 kph.
Lap 1: Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 193 kph.

Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 307 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 150 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 279 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 185 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 152 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 44 kph.
Lap 1: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 29 kph.
Lap 8: Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Gratulin at 46 kph.

Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 192 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 179 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 106 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 86 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 327 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 336 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 180 kph.
Lap 1: Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 25 kph.

Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 237 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 190 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 296 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 124 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 159 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 383 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 323 kph.
Lap 1: Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 377 kph.

Lap 1: Bird [TKO Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 299 kph.
Lap 1: Bird [TKO Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 199 kph.
Lap 1: Bird [TKO Racing] hit christopheraser at 414 kph.
Lap 1: Bird [TKO Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 164 kph.

Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 335 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 72 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 172 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 146 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 301 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit christopheraser at 318 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 186 kph.
Lap 1: Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 262 kph.

Lap 3: Wally [TKO Racing] hit Gratulin at 63 kph.

Lap 1: Mael [Maelstrom Racing] hit Gratulin at 207 kph.

Lap 1: Gratulin hit Mael [Maelstrom Racing] at 209 kph.
Lap 1: Gratulin hit christopheraser at 130 kph.

[marty]

Wally but thise collisions were mostly from the aborted start where we all wrecked each other on purpose and as high a speed as possible  . Not sure why its showing up in the report as the race was restarted after those contacts.

I had no contact with other cars all night and the only other collision I had was when Bird stopped at pit exit after his hotlap and I hit him as I was driving out of the pitlane. I also drove through his car which was the odd thing and pretty sure that was as I made my outlap for the eventual pole time so I couldnt have had any damage.

[Bacchulum]

Funny thing is, I hit no one and had no damage.

[Wally]

Here's another format, "clumped" by location.

Lap: 1 at -25,-725
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Guybrush Threepwood [Achilles Heels] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 76 kph.
Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Guybrush Threepwood [Achilles Heels] at 88 kph.
Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 83 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 185 kph.
Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 82 kph.
Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 193 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 159 kph.

Lap: 1 at -25,-750
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Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 252 kph.
Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 49 kph.
Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 242 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 237 kph.

Lap: 1 at 0,-725
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Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 219 kph.
Paul [Krahl Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 256 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 192 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 179 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 106 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 146 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 301 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 190 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 124 kph.
Gratulin hit christopheraser at 130 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 199 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit christopheraser at 414 kph.
christopheraser hit Gratulin at 106 kph.
christopheraser hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 344 kph.

Lap: 1 at 0,-700
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Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 387 kph.
Marty [Achilles Heels] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 188 kph.
Paul [Krahl Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 151 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 86 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 327 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 336 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Marty [Achilles Heels] at 180 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit christopheraser at 318 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 186 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 262 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 383 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 323 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 377 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 164 kph.
christopheraser hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 454 kph.
Bafs17 [Italia Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 297 kph.
Bafs17 [Italia Racing] hit Doobs at 292 kph.
Bafs17 [Italia Racing] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 199 kph.

Lap: 1 at 0,-750
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 307 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Rolz [DA Racing] at 150 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 279 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 335 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] at 72 kph.
Rolz [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 172 kph.
Bacchulum [Aleph Null Ltd] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 296 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 299 kph.

Lap: 1 at -25,-675
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Phil.8 [Krahl Racing] at 152 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 44 kph.

Lap: 1 at -375,0
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 29 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 25 kph.

Lap: 1 at -25,-775
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Gratulin hit Mael [Maelstrom Racing] at 209 kph.
Mael [Maelstrom Racing] hit Gratulin at 207 kph.

Lap: 1 at 250,800
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Ben hit Doobs at 85 kph.

Lap: 2 at 250,250
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christopheraser hit Grat [DA Racing] at 15 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit christopheraser at 13 kph.

Lap: 3 at 175,775
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Gratulin hit Wally [TKO Racing] at 78 kph.
Wally [TKO Racing] hit Gratulin at 63 kph.

Lap: 8 at -225,-100
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Gratulin at 46 kph.

[Wally]

Wally but thise collisions were mostly from the aborted start where we all wrecked each other on purpose and as high a speed as possible  . Not sure why its showing up in the report as the race was restarted after those contacts.

I had no contact with other cars all night and the only other collision I had was when Bird stopped at pit exit after his hotlap and I hit him as I was driving out of the pitlane. I also drove through his car which was the odd thing and pretty sure that was as I made my outlap for the eventual pole time so I couldnt have had any damage.

I'll have to check that. I thought this was all after the restart. even in the race results, it shows 6 contacts for you Marty on lap 1 (don't forget this is race 2). I'll take a look (maybe later).

Edit:
Hmmmm... I think I see what's happening. The server is actually receiving client contact events after the session is restarted (I think). These logs are chaos, I tell ya.

[Wally]

This might be a more sensible one, from race 1 that had no restarts (which are obviously not typical).

Lap: 1 at -250,-75
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christopheraser hit Doobs at 126 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 206 kph.
Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] hit Doobs at 60 kph.
Bafs17 [Italia Racing] hit Doobs at 115 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 143 kph.
Doobs hit christopheraser at 106 kph.
Doobs hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 112 kph.
Doobs hit Freezer [Caterpillar Racing] at 61 kph.

Lap: 1 at -275,-125
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Grat [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 38 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 23 kph.
Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 9 kph.

Lap: 1 at -275,-100
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Bird [TKO Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 30 kph.

Lap: 1 at -225,-75
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Bird [TKO Racing] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 54 kph.
Wally [TKO Racing] hit Rob at 57 kph.
Rob hit Wally [TKO Racing] at 67 kph.

Lap: 2 at -150,25
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Grat [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 3 kph.

Lap: 2 at 200,825
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 52 kph.

Lap: 4 at -325,50
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Wally [TKO Racing] hit christopheraser at 14 kph.

Lap: 8 at 225,250
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 78 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 59 kph.

Lap: 8 at 275,250
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 239 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 218 kph.

Lap: 8 at 250,250
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Bird [TKO Racing] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 81 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 80 kph.

Lap: 11 at -25,-1000
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christopheraser hit Mael [Maelstrom Racing] at 43 kph.

Lap: 12 at -50,-125
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christopheraser hit Bafs17 [Italia Racing] at 54 kph.
Bafs17 [Italia Racing] hit christopheraser at 23 kph.

Lap: 15 at -125,25
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Paul [Krahl Racing] hit StanDaam [Golden Goat Gatherers] at 35 kph.
StanDaam [Golden Goat Gatherers] hit Paul [Krahl Racing] at 23 kph.

[marty]

Seeing as this is the race 2 start with GB leading me 2nd and Matthew 3rd. The collision started with Grat and Jeremy a bit further back.



Its why I mentioned in one of the other threads that its odd the aborted start collisions were added into the race 2 results.

Edit oops that is race 1 start as I was leading, race 2 start was clean up front not sure who had contact early but I definatly had no contact in race 2 either. Race 2 I followed guy around lap 1 then my pedal started spiking and matthew got past me cleanly lap 2 or 3 and I pitted at the end of lap 3 due to the spiking pedal as I thought id give them a good bash during the stop and trried to get away from guys that may rear end me when my car wasnt accelerating on the straights. I then past a few guys all with no contact so if I had 6 contacts you may want to check the replay as I am certain I had none.

[Wally]

Yep, I don't think there's much I can do about that. The collisions are only reported in the log after the session restart happened, even though they happened earlier. Since restarts are rare, it's no biggie.

[Bacchulum]

But there was no restart in race 2, was there?
Were these detected as the cars were 'flying' to the grid?
It's very 'anomalous'.

[marty]

But there was no restart in race 2, was there?
Were these detected as the cars were 'flying' to the grid?
It's very 'anomalous'.

Wasnt race 2 someones car across the grid pre start so we had the first start before wally restarted. This may be the reason GB drove straight across the road and into me then everyone else piled in. 

With the race 1 collisions the first lap looks like the replay as some cars get stopped dead and others hit them so youd expect higher numbers. Im not saying thats how it should be but it is as seen in the video I think. The oddest one is Jeremy and Bird lap 8 at 230kmh and I wonder if there was a warp.

Overall most collisions are harder then I see in most of mine as reported by stracker. Most of my collisions tend to be with GB in practice races and at speeds like 1 to 10kmh with just light rubs rarely causing a spin. but damage at times seems excessive for the contact.

[grat]

I seriously do not understand these reports. From there it looks like Jeremy and I hit each other on lap 1 (twice), 2 (twice), and 8 (twice). I do not remember all these contacts. And definitely the relative speeds were no 80! They make no sense. Sorry...

[marty]

I always thought collisions showed the speed of contact for both clients. However some of these only show 1 contact so maybe that means the other client had no collision in the incident.

[Wally]

But there was no restart in race 2, was there?
Were these detected as the cars were 'flying' to the grid?
It's very 'anomalous'.

Yes, that was when AJ would have started in the middle of the track and not his start box, so I restarted the race.

[Wally]

That's just directly what's reported in the server log. The collisions usually seem to come in pairs, e.g. Bird hit Jeremy and Jeremy hit Bird, but not always.

The point of these contact logs is for someone to find incidents in the replay more than anything.

[marty]

Here is an overhead of these collisions

Lap: 8 at 225,250
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 78 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 59 kph.

Lap: 8 at 275,250
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Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 239 kph.
Bird [TKO Racing] hit Jeremy [Struggle Street Racing Crew] at 218 kph.

Lap: 8 at 250,250
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Bird [TKO Racing] hit Grat [DA Racing] at 81 kph.
Grat [DA Racing] hit Bird [TKO Racing] at 80 kph.

Speeds especially between Jeremy and Bird seem a fair way out but the contact is head on with a badly timed spin around re entry  and so netcode seems to have issues here the most with a car traveling opposite to the direction its expecting. Clearly the combined impact would not be anywhere near 200kmh there as Jeremy has only just started to move the opposite direction and Bird has also just got moving not long before the contact.