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Title: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 09:54:09 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/04/s16r6-porsche-gt3-cup-at-magione.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Matthew111    64
Marty    62
Phil.8    62
Diehard    58
Shayne    56
Freezer    54
Cursed    52
Wally    50
Simone    48
Keith    46
Seanus    44
RussG    42
Joe    40
Slow_As    38
Bacchulum    36
Grat    1
Mael    0
Shameless    0

Congratulations to Grat on pole, and Matthew for the race and round win.

Lap 1 Penalties
None.
Mael's connection went to rubbish and caused an accident at turn 2, but because it was due to circumstances out of Mael's control, no penalty.

Matthew did an almost unsafe reentry at turn 1 on lap 16, oversteering into the middle of the track causing Phil to have to slow. This is just a caution to be careful about track re-entry into the path of oncoming cars.

Season Leaders (no change in the podium)
1. Marty, 323
2. Phil.8, 314
3. Diehard, 288

Team Standings - Infinity + 1 have overtaken Makin Engineering to take 2nd place
1. Krahl Racing, 536
2. Infinity + 1, 453
3. Maki Engineering, 436
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Slow_As on April 25, 2017, 10:06:35 PM
Qual: Bit slow already add 20kg and a bit slower still.

Race: Excellent.....solid 11th  until I came in for my stop - and the arsholes were not ready......I even backed up for them if I'd overshot. No dice. Back out - do another lap or so then in again - this time they were ready..... But position 10 or 11 had dissappeared - came home 14th. Noteable dices with Bacchulum and fun chasing the black and yellow car - after I'd been lapped.

All in all - sad face re. pits = 26 seconds for pseudo stop, which - without the extra stop would have put me in 11th or so - other than that I was happy with my driving...

Almost got dizzy with all the direction changes - but aside from my pit problem - I was happy with my pace considering the 20kg penalty.

Hope everyone else had a fun race.

Time for a shower - covered in sweat !!
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
If anybody wants to take guesses, this was the log of the race (it says nothing as that in the quali... just some WAS LATE). I checked all temps and they are normal (GPU is between 69 and 72C all the time). I ahve installed some new GPU drivers, but I still get some freeze... suggesting the crash is coming at some point.

ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:16
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:11
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:24
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:19
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:10
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:1
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 187 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 102 times
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 40 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 8 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 3 times
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 16 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 3 times
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 152 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 58 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 79 times
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 41 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 141 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 27 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 3 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 5 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 6 times
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed

this repeats a milion times and then:

swapChain->Present failed
ON REMOTE LAP COMPLETED BY SES ID:12
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
swapChain->Present failed
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 29 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 7 times
WM_SIZE 1920 1080
kglResizeBuffers : 1920 x 1080
ERROR: swapChain->ResizeBuffers FAILED

CRASH in:
OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 21 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 8 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 13 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 2 times
WAS LATE, HAD TO LOOP 4 times
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kgl.cpp (807): kglResizeBuffers
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\graphicsmanager.cpp (706): GraphicsManager::onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\renderwindow.cpp (16): onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kglwindow.cpp (95): WndProc
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC17BB)
00007FF906BC17BB (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533940)
00007FF8FC533940 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533A80)
00007FF8FC533A80 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533940)
00007FF8FC533940 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533D2A)
00007FF8FC533D2A (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1917)
00007FF906BC1917 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BD2563)
00007FF906BD2563 (USER32): (filename not available): MapWindowPoints
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF908DE9C54)
00007FF908DE9C54 (ntdll): (filename not available): KiUserCallbackDispatcher
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF905711184)
00007FF905711184 (win32u): (filename not available): NtUserMessageCall
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC114C)
00007FF906BC114C (USER32): (filename not available): SendMessageW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BBEF6D)
00007FF906BBEF6D (USER32): (filename not available): GetWindowTextW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BBE982)
00007FF906BBE982 (USER32): (filename not available): GetWindowTextW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF90388183D)
00007FF90388183D (uxtheme): (filename not available): DrawThemeBackground
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF9038806D1)
00007FF9038806D1 (uxtheme): (filename not available): DrawThemeBackground
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BBEB7D)
00007FF906BBEB7D (USER32): (filename not available): GetWindowTextW
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kglwindow.cpp (239): WndProc
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC17BB)
00007FF906BC17BB (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533940)
00007FF8FC533940 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533A80)
00007FF8FC533A80 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533940)
00007FF8FC533940 (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8FC533D2A)
00007FF8FC533D2A (DINPUT8): (filename not available): DllUnregisterServer
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1917)
00007FF906BC1917 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BD5E80)
00007FF906BD5E80 (USER32): (filename not available): UnionRect
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF908DE9C54)
00007FF908DE9C54 (ntdll): (filename not available): KiUserCallbackDispatcher
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF9057110C4)
00007FF9057110C4 (win32u): (filename not available): NtUserPeekMessage
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BCE52E)
00007FF906BCE52E (USER32): (filename not available): PeekMessageW
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF8E0F1EADC)
00007FF8E0F1EADC (gameoverlayrenderer64): (filename not available): OverlayHookD3D3
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kglwindow.cpp (359): kglWindowStep
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\renderwindow.cpp (104): RenderWindow::step
d:\dev\dev_release13\ksgame\game.cpp (210): Game::run
d:\dev\dev_release13\acs\acs.cpp (467): wWinMain
f:\dd\vctools\crt\crtw32\dllstuff\crtexe.c (618): __tmainCRTStartup
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF907318364)
00007FF907318364 (KERNEL32): (filename not available): BaseThreadInitThunk
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF908DA70D1)
00007FF908DA70D1 (ntdll): (filename not available): RtlUserThreadStart
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 10:28:06 PM
Grat, that swapChain->Present failed stuff definitely looks unusual and suss. I would put a post on the AC forums about it and get some support.
It's obviously graphics related in some way. The WindowResize errors are very strange - it almost looks like AC is trying to resize the window while you're out on track.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:30:43 PM
Yes, Wally:

I saw this thread there and you can see what my question was: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/acs-exe-random-crash-in-large-grid.44347/

Then I also opened this one: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crash-swapchain-present-failed-and-was-late.44725/

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Shameless_1 on April 25, 2017, 10:34:28 PM
Grat are you using windows 7?

If so https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/download/details.aspx?id=36805  is said to fix the issue.. If youre not win7  then dunno.. seems to be centered around directx and whether your OS is compatible with dx 11.1

Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 10:35:31 PM
Yes, Wally:

I saw this thread there and you can see what my question was: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/acs-exe-random-crash-in-large-grid.44347/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/acs-exe-random-crash-in-large-grid.44347/)

Then I also opened this one: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crash-swapchain-present-failed-and-was-late.44725/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crash-swapchain-present-failed-and-was-late.44725/)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I would edit your first post and put this in:


d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kgl.cpp (807): kglResizeBuffers
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\graphicsmanager.cpp (706): GraphicsManager::onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\renderwindow.cpp (16): onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kglwindow.cpp (95): WndProc
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW


That kind of error really grabs a dev's attention.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 25, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
I don't understand any of that log jargon, when I had the stutters I was getting lots of the was late too. But my cause seemed different to yours being this program WsAppService.exe that was running, maybe do a system search and see if by any chance it is installed as I assume it must have come with the windows update as I hadnt installed anything other then that update when it turned to crap.

Regarding the race it was a bit of a shame, qualy was close only a tiny margin between me and Grat. The race it didnt look like there was anywhere I could make a pass so my main plan unless Grat made an error was to try go longer then him and pass him on track with some quick laps while he was getting his tyres to temp. Unfortunatly I managed to make contact with Grat at t2 which seemed odd as I was just coasting and even had to go back on the brakes nearly past the apex where contact was made as his car didnt accelerate at all.

Not sure if it was the system or tyre pressures too high but the last couple laps before that Grat lost lots of pace for no real reason.

After redressing which was a bit awkard as I was stopped mid track with Grats car ahead of me blocking my path but luckily the guys behind didnt have too much issues dodging the new chicane.

[youtube]8dy8qX4_R94[/youtube]


From there the leaders got too far ahead so I just hoped to maybe sneak in a podium with some luck. Getting going again passing anyone was tough and Grat passed Freezer but I had a real tough time and after spinning Grat the last thing I wanted was to spin another car. I managed to get past after a few laps then Grat had some more bad luck as his PC crashed or something but his car was well off track in the dirt so didnt cause anyone issues.

At that point I think I may have been 4th with Diehard ahead who I slowly made some ground on, I really didnt think passing him would be so easy and luckily he pitted just as I got to him. Knowing my tyres were still ok I tried to stay out as long as I could and put in some quick laps to hopefully jump him after my stop with some clear track running which did manage to work as I pitted just before catching the Wally and Simone battle.

After the stop I just tried to set the fastest lap for the extra point, shame about Grats issues and me spinning him which ended what could have been a good race long battle with Matthew and Phil also close behind us at that point.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
Here's my race report, pretty much in one picture.
Followed Simone for an hour like this.

(http://xgn.com.au/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1884.0;attach=1082;image)
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:37:22 PM
Yes, Wally:

I saw this thread there and you can see what my question was: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/acs-exe-random-crash-in-large-grid.44347/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/acs-exe-random-crash-in-large-grid.44347/)

Then I also opened this one: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crash-swapchain-present-failed-and-was-late.44725/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crash-swapchain-present-failed-and-was-late.44725/)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I would edit your first post and put this in:


d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kgl.cpp (807): kglResizeBuffers
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\graphicsmanager.cpp (706): GraphicsManager::onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kunossim\renderwindow.cpp (16): onResize
d:\dev\dev_release13\kgl\dx11\kglwindow.cpp (95): WndProc
ERROR: SymGetLineFromAddr64, GetLastError: 487 (Address: 00007FF906BC1C24)
00007FF906BC1C24 (USER32): (filename not available): CallWindowProcW


That kind of error really grabs a dev's attention.
Done. Thank you.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 25, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
Here's my race report, pretty much in one picture.
Followed Simone for an hour like this.

(http://xgn.com.au/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1884.0;attach=1082;image)

Thats why I pitted just before getting into the middle of your battle.  ;D
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on April 25, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
Solid race for me, great battle with Bacchulum but then I suspect my team boss let me through :-[ , then a real laptime tussle with RussG until he ran off but later in the race he almost got me again. We did tangle with him on cold tyres so apologies if I didn't leave enough room there Russ. As is my normal MO i waited for each lapper to light up helicorsa once or twice then seeing as this track is a real one liner I let each past on the main straight. I didn't let Phil through though, I just ran wide there Phil. ;)
Sorry Seanus, the contact wasn't your fault.
I had a plan. I was right behind you when I saw you pit, and decided if I stayed out for 2 laps then pit I should come out in front of you because of your cold tyres, then hope I had enough space to keep you behind until my tyres warmed up. The plan worked a treat and I came out with a nice little gap to you.
The trouble was that Marty hadn't pitted and was between us so I moved to let him through and that let you get right on my bumper.  Then I just tried too hard to defend on cold tyres and gave you a tap in the rear.
Apart from that and a couple of usual brain fades I was pretty happy and got some laps in the 12's.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
I don't understand any of that log jargon, when I had the stutters I was getting lots of the was late too. But my cause seemed different to yours being this program WsAppService.exe that was running, maybe do a system search and see if by any chance it is installed as I assume it must have come with the windows update as I hadnt installed anything other then that update when it turned to crap.

Regarding the race it was a bit of a shame, qualy was close only a tiny margin between me and Grat. The race it didnt look like there was anywhere I could make a pass so my main plan unless Grat made an error was to try go longer then him and pass him on track with some quick laps while he was getting his tyres to temp. Unfortunatly I managed to make contact with Grat at t2 which seemed odd as I was just coasting and even had to go back on the brakes nearly past the apex where contact was made as his car didnt accelerate at all.

Not sure if it was the system or tyre pressures too high but the last couple laps before that Grat lost lots of pace for no real reason.

After redressing which was a bit awkard as I was stopped mid track with Grats car ahead of me blocking my path but luckily the guys behind didnt have too much issues dodging the new chicane.

[youtube]8dy8qX4_R94[/youtube]


From there the leaders got too far ahead so I just hoped to maybe sneak in a podium with some luck. Getting going again passing anyone was tough and Grat passed Freezer but I had a real tough time and after spinning Grat the last thing I wanted was to spin another car. I managed to get past after a few laps then Grat had some more bad luck as his PC crashed or something but his car was well off track in the dirt so didnt cause anyone issues.

At that point I think I may have been 4th with Diehard ahead who I slowly made some ground on, I really didnt think passing him would be so easy and luckily he pitted just as I got to him. Knowing my tyres were still ok I tried to stay out as long as I could and put in some quick laps to hopefully jump him after my stop with some clear track running which did manage to work as I pitted just before catching the Wally and Simone battle.

After the stop I just tried to set the fastest lap for the extra point, shame about Grats issues and me spinning him which ended what could have been a good race long battle with Matthew and Phil also close behind us at that point.
Yeah, my car is awkward in that replay. I was not having problems with pressures. I just lost a bit of concentration because of the strange "freeze/stutter" the lap before and made a mistake that costed me 3 tenths or so. Then I was probably looking in my mirrors a bit too much for the next 2 or 3 corners, but still it's strange what I do in that corner: it looks like I am getting one of those V lines I often take (you must have noticed I do that more than you, given the quantity of laps together we got with these cars) but that should mean I get a nice fast exit. No idea why I seem not to accelerate out of it, instead. Either I somewhat hesitated on the throttle for who knows what reason, or really my PC is doing strange things...
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
I don't understand any of that log jargon, when I had the stutters I was getting lots of the was late too. But my cause seemed different to yours being this program WsAppService.exe that was running, maybe do a system search and see if by any chance it is installed as I assume it must have come with the windows update as I hadnt installed anything other then that update when it turned to crap.

Regarding the race it was a bit of a shame, qualy was close only a tiny margin between me and Grat. The race it didnt look like there was anywhere I could make a pass so my main plan unless Grat made an error was to try go longer then him and pass him on track with some quick laps while he was getting his tyres to temp. Unfortunatly I managed to make contact with Grat at t2 which seemed odd as I was just coasting and even had to go back on the brakes nearly past the apex where contact was made as his car didnt accelerate at all.

Not sure if it was the system or tyre pressures too high but the last couple laps before that Grat lost lots of pace for no real reason.

After redressing which was a bit awkard as I was stopped mid track with Grats car ahead of me blocking my path but luckily the guys behind didnt have too much issues dodging the new chicane.

[youtube]8dy8qX4_R94[/youtube]


From there the leaders got too far ahead so I just hoped to maybe sneak in a podium with some luck. Getting going again passing anyone was tough and Grat passed Freezer but I had a real tough time and after spinning Grat the last thing I wanted was to spin another car. I managed to get past after a few laps then Grat had some more bad luck as his PC crashed or something but his car was well off track in the dirt so didnt cause anyone issues.

At that point I think I may have been 4th with Diehard ahead who I slowly made some ground on, I really didnt think passing him would be so easy and luckily he pitted just as I got to him. Knowing my tyres were still ok I tried to stay out as long as I could and put in some quick laps to hopefully jump him after my stop with some clear track running which did manage to work as I pitted just before catching the Wally and Simone battle.

After the stop I just tried to set the fastest lap for the extra point, shame about Grats issues and me spinning him which ended what could have been a good race long battle with Matthew and Phil also close behind us at that point.
Yeah, my car is awkward in that replay. I was not having problems with pressures. I just lost a bit of concentration because of the strange "freeze/stutter" the lap before and made a mistake that costed me 3 tenths or so. Then I was probably looking in my mirrors a bit too much for the next 2 or 3 corners, but still it's strange what I do in that corner: it looks like I am getting one of those V lines I often take (you must have noticed I do that more than you, given the quantity of laps together we got with these cars) but that should mean I get a nice fast exit. No idea why I seem not to accelerate out of it, instead. Either I somewhat hesitated on the throttle for who knows what reason, or really my PC is doing strange things...
Watching it again, I think I just went a bit long and tried to take a late apex. Probably I hesitated too much on the throttle. That would be it.

Anyway: it was good fun then trying to pass Freezer (took 2 good laps) and then catch up on Diehard. Really a shame I am having PC problems, because I am decent in this car, and races are quite good fun...
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 25, 2017, 10:52:35 PM
Yeah, my car is awkward in that replay. I was not having problems with pressures. I just lost a bit of concentration because of the strange "freeze/stutter" the lap before and made a mistake that costed me 3 tenths or so. Then I was probably looking in my mirrors a bit too much for the next 2 or 3 corners, but still it's strange what I do in that corner: it looks like I am getting one of those V lines I often take (you must have noticed I do that more than you, given the quantity of laps together we got with these cars) but that should mean I get a nice fast exit. No idea why I seem not to accelerate out of it, instead. Either I somewhat hesitated on the throttle for who knows what reason, or really my PC is doing strange things...

Still contact is 100% my fault, I wasnt trying a pass just got caught out a little expecting the car to go not keep slowing at that point but I should have just left a bit more space.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 10:55:00 PM
Yeah, my car is awkward in that replay. I was not having problems with pressures. I just lost a bit of concentration because of the strange "freeze/stutter" the lap before and made a mistake that costed me 3 tenths or so. Then I was probably looking in my mirrors a bit too much for the next 2 or 3 corners, but still it's strange what I do in that corner: it looks like I am getting one of those V lines I often take (you must have noticed I do that more than you, given the quantity of laps together we got with these cars) but that should mean I get a nice fast exit. No idea why I seem not to accelerate out of it, instead. Either I somewhat hesitated on the throttle for who knows what reason, or really my PC is doing strange things...

Still contact is 100% my fault, I wasnt trying a pass just got caught out a little expecting the car to go not keep slowing at that point but I should have just left a bit more space.
No worries. It always feels strange when it's you hitting me, though ;)
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 11:13:53 PM
Thats why I pitted just before getting into the middle of your battle.  ;D
Yeah, I noticed that when the blue flags came up, and was relieved when you pitted :)
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on April 25, 2017, 11:32:05 PM
Well in pre race practice I thought it was going to be a disaster.  Couldn't get to much speed and the tight last handful of corners were killing me.
However, once the flag dropped I got away well, grabbed three spots then narrowly avoided team mate Mael spinning (damn shame :( ) and then pushed on.
I couldn't really catch the front guys and after Marty/Grat spun I soon had them hot on my tail.  I was able to them both at bay for around 4 laps each which was
a challenge and from there it was a quiet race.  Kept it pretty clean and came home in 6th, which with 20kg ballast was pretty good..!
My turn this week to hold up the points for Team Maki.... :)
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 25, 2017, 11:40:02 PM
Grat are you using windows 7?

If so https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/download/details.aspx?id=36805  is said to fix the issue.. If youre not win7  then dunno.. seems to be centered around directx and whether your OS is compatible with dx 11.1
No, I am on windows 10. But thank you!
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on April 26, 2017, 01:04:06 AM
Disappointing night for me. Snuck in a last second qually  lap jumping from 12th to 8th only to spin at the end of lap 1 and had to let the whole field through leaving me last in 18th..

I cleared shameless after he repeated my spin then spent what felt like forever on bacculums tail but couldnt find a way past and he never makes mistakes! I could see everyone else pulling away so eventually gave up and pitted at lap 20.

After stop lots of clear space and started putting in quick laps and made up a few places as undercuts. Russ anf seanus had a little tangle and got past them then was running in 11th which seed okay. Keith came out of the pits just infront of me so i really wanted to attack while he was on cold tyres but I didnt anticipate how early he'd brake for T1 and spun myself around loosing a cpl of spots.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Cursed on April 26, 2017, 06:53:43 AM
I had a satisfyingly clean race.  For the most part I was tangled up with Wally and Simone, but when they decided to pit at around lap 20-22, I decided I was faster than they were as long as they were tangled together and I stayed out for a few more laps to put a gap on them while they fought with cold tyres.

My plan worked, and I came out of the pits with a substantial gap on the Wally and Simone battle.  I lost most of that gap while the tyres came up to temperature, but then I was able to keep ahead by anywhere from 1-4 seconds.  Managed to pick up 6 places from my starting position of 13.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on April 26, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
WD Cursed!!!!    >:(   This morning i woke up with a seized right shoulder due to the intense battle on the track last night,...me thinking of hanging the steering wheel on the wall ::)
Great racing!!! This time i was determined to fight all through and it paid.Huge chase Wally ,thx to you and your common sense the battle was fun but tough.After i re-enter the track after pitting i saw wally behind me at about 5 sec but my tyres were cold and i had to take it easy,unfortunately all my advantage was lost when i went briefly on the grass....bugger here he(wally) comes again.Tyres became warmer and i could defend my position for the rest of the race,,,,nice finishing ahead of you Mr Masterson   :-*

A complete shame my 10 sec penalty for too many cuts...cuts?  where???  anyway i accept the rules.During the back straight i saw wally a couples of sec behind so with my left hand   i grabbed  a paper towel to wipe some sweat from my face...yes... almost lost it and found myself on the grass for 100 mt and wally again on my ass   ;D ;D ;D

Fun tuesday evening,thx all!!!
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 26, 2017, 10:23:59 AM
A complete shame my 10 sec penalty for too many cuts...cuts?  where???  anyway i accept the rules.During the back straight i saw wally a couples of sec behind so with my left hand   i grabbed  a paper towel to wipe some sweat from my face...yes... almost lost it and found myself on the grass for 100 mt and wally again on my ass   ;D ;D ;D

Fun tuesday evening,thx all!!!

That move on the back straight was one of your cuts, maybe you thought you were on the tractor and saw a bit that needed a trim lol. I was a fair way back of you guys at the time and thought maybe wally tried to put you through the fence lol. Thats when I decided to pit before catching your little battle.

If you have plp on screen somewhere it will show when you cut and also how many cuts you have made so you can try avoid the penalty.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 26, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
WD Cursed!!!!    >:(   This morning i woke up with a seized right shoulder due to the intense battle on the track last night,...me thinking of hanging the steering wheel on the wall ::)
Great racing!!! This time i was determined to fight all through and it paid.Huge chase Wally ,thx to you and your common sense the battle was fun but tough.After i re-enter the track after pitting i saw wally behind me at about 5 sec but my tyres were cold and i had to take it easy,unfortunately all my advantage was lost when i went briefly on the grass....bugger here he(wally) comes again.Tyres became warmer and i could defend my position for the rest of the race,,,,nice finishing ahead of you Mr Masterson   :-*

A complete shame my 10 sec penalty for too many cuts...cuts?  where???  anyway i accept the rules.During the back straight i saw wally a couples of sec behind so with my left hand   i grabbed  a paper towel to wipe some sweat from my face...yes... almost lost it and found myself on the grass for 100 mt and wally again on my ass   ;D ;D ;D

Fun tuesday evening,thx all!!!
Yeah, it was a great race. I had nowhere to pass you. I could catch up in the slow switchbacks, but then you'd lose me on the straights. How did you get such good drive onto the back straight? Where you taking that corner in 1st or 2nd? I had 7 wing I think.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on April 26, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Yes Wally that was great fun!!  i was exiting in 2nd gear,(back straight)i noticed from the replay you were using the 1st gear and i think thats was your night there lol.
My wing was a 10,maybe it gave me  a bit of understeer and thats was my night there lol   EPIC race mate!!!!
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 26, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
Yes Wally that was great fun!!  i was exiting in 2nd gear,(back straight)i noticed from the replay you were using the 1st gear and i think thats was your night there lol.
My wing was a 10,maybe it gave me  a bit of understeer and thats was my night there lol   EPIC race mate!!!!
I was trying both 1st and 2nd. 1st may have felt slightly better, actually. Your high rear wing must have been keeping the rear more planted when you were exiting the corner, although it was only low speed.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on April 27, 2017, 05:59:01 PM
Had a good pressure race with phil all race, figured track position was king so just held it on line and waited for him to pit so he would feel the cold tyres first, then resumed our positions lol, got a bit lucky with grat and marty coming together as passing them would of been super difficult here. 2 wins a row was kinda unexpected lol
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on April 27, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Qualified 2nd last, bettered that by finishing 1st last. :o
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on April 27, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Sorry for the no show. I'm in New Zealand ATM and knew I'd forgotten to do something before I left- notify that I want going to make it. See you next week.
Title: Re: S16R6: Magione Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 27, 2017, 07:30:02 PM
Sorry for the no show. I'm in New Zealand ATM and knew I'd forgotten to do something before I left- notify that I want going to make it. See you next week.
No worries Darren, see you at New Jersey.
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