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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on June 07, 2016, 10:11:39 PM
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RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2016/06/s12r1-ferrari-vs-lotus-at-mugello.html)
I have added a new feature to the race results, Rivals. Your rival is the person who has finished a race one position in front of you the most times in the season. So far, we have one rivalry forming, with Phil's rival being Grat.
Penalties
In race 1, Grat moved across left to right after T1 and rubbed Jeremy. Then coming into T2, Jeremy moved right to left towards the apex and hit the side of grat and spun him off-track. Because it was still only T2 and you're supposed to stick to your side of the track to avoid exactly this kind of accident, Jeremy gets 80kg penalty ballast in race 1 only of next round.
Round Points
| Name | Qual | Race 1 | Race 2 | Bonus | |
| Marty | 10 | 40 | 36 | 2 | 88 |
| Jeremy | 8 | 36 | 40 | | 84 |
| Matthew111 | 7 | 38 | 38 | | 83 |
| Rolz | 2 | 32 | 30 | | 64 |
| Bafs17 | 0 | 28 | 24 | | 52 |
| Freezer | 0 | 22 | 28 | | 50 |
| hylas | 0 | 26 | 20 | | 46 |
| Grat | 6 | 4 | 34 | | 44 |
| Phil.8 | 9 | 2 | 32 | | 43 |
| Bird | 3 | 34 | 4 | | 41 |
| Rob | 0 | 14 | 26 | | 40 |
| AJ | 0 | 16 | 22 | | 38 |
| Wally | 0 | 20 | 18 | | 38 |
| Bacchulum | 5 | 30 | 2 | | 37 |
| Simone | 0 | 18 | 14 | | 32 |
| StanDaam | 1 | 24 | 6 | | 31 |
| Mael | 4 | 8 | 12 | | 24 |
| Vipergod | 0 | 6 | 16 | | 22 |
| Chap111 | 0 | 12 | 8 | | 20 |
| Doobs | 0 | 10 | 10 | | 20 |
Congratulations to Marty and Jeremy on the race wins, and Marty on the overall round win.
Season Podium
1. Marty, 88
2. Jeremy, 84
3. Matthew111, 83
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Good fun in these race 1 I got a reasonable start and got away with some issues trying to find my microphone but luckily had enough of a gap and clear track to control my pace.
Race 2 my car was horrible lol, I changed pressures a bit before the start dropping rears and lf. Also seems I forgot to fully press my brake after joining server and I didnt quite calibrate the pedal this meant I was locking up everywhere. I think I went off about 3 times early and all self inflicted luckily each time I went off I was able to rejoin relatively safely and not get in anyone's way. I lost lots of positions and really couldnt figure out the car issue so started adjusting bias and that only made it worse.
I then thought I havent really gone much brake pedal yet but was locking on every entry pretty much so I slammed it into 1 corner and then I got regular pedal back and was able to have some control on entry. Still pressures were down but likely due to lower grip and going much slower then normal and once I got back some control pressures came back to where they should be. All this time I was stuck in some battles mostly with Grat but also a bit with Freezer and Phil having made quite a few passes earlier but I kept going off and needing to do it again. Stupid but fun :) but even once back and comfortable I still had the issue of passing Freezer and Grat while running longer first stint hoping to gain on Jeremy and Matthew out front.
I managed to get Grat just before our pits but he came in with big balls flat out and managed to pass me in pitlane lol. Then I exited after him and again needed to get past which I did when he had a big moment. So then miles behind Jeremy and Matt I figured Id just go full qualy effort ( actually much harder then I went in qualy) and with a couple mid 47's was gaining about 1 sec per lap but still 6 seconds back from 2nd and 1 lap left it was never going to be.
I think reverse grid race 2 would actually be more fun then regular positions and I had no issues running close to some and making a few passes. Still should be a fun season and from what I saw around me in the races everyone seemed to do well except for some messines in the mirror t1 race 1.
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Yeah "fun" ;D I spend most of lap one trying to get a car which could not turn left back to pits for repairs. Really need to improve my race-craft!
Well done to everybody who made it to the finish unscathed. The pace was a bit quicker than expected. 8)
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Results up in first post.
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In race 1, Simone didn't move off the line in front of me, so I only took off slowly. I think it was Grat behind me who tried to avoid us both by going onto the grass, but ended up slipping into the wall.
Later, Grat surprised me after I exited from pits, with a sudden burst of speed he was inside me at turn 2, and I wasn’t aware and turned into the side of him. I think the sudden surge of speed surprised me, as I was well in front after turn 1. That was probably my fault, as Grat had the speed to make the pass, but I came off worse, going out into the sand. Thanks for the redress, although in hindsight it wasn't neccesary.
In the opening lap of race 2, I wasn’t expecting Bird to come spearing back across the track after he hit the wall after turn 2. I thought I’d be able to pass him while he was off-track, but I ended up hitting him, damaging my front wing and dropping quite a few spots waiting to rejoin safely. But I pressed on OK.
In race 1, I pitted half way, putting on new softs. I was doing 1:51's.
In race 2, I ran hards and started with a full tank, so I only needed to do a very quick splash 'n dash on lap 14 in the Ferrari, without changing tyres. The hards stayed on 100% the whole race, so easily went the distance, but with the fuel load and the hard tyres, my lap times started at 1:56 and went down to 1:52 as I got lighter. So timewise, it wasn't a good play, as I was dropping a few seconds each lap. When I did my quick pit stop, I was in P9, but dropped 3 spots. So I wouldn't call that a successful strategy :)
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Sorry guys. The car just bit me. I don't think I'll continue this season. Without praccy these cars are too dangerous. I've little time anyway, and I don't want to mess up your fun, guys. I thought I had a handle on it but I was probably too tired. Sorry.
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Sorry guys. The car just bit me. I don't think I'll continue this season. Without praccy these cars are too dangerous. I've little time anyway, and I don't want to mess up your fun, guys. I thought I had a handle on it but I was probably too tired. Sorry.
If you saw my race 2 then youd see even with practice it can be hard or at least I made it look like that driving like a proper muppet early. It will be a challenge for everyone and seems the grip started lower in race 2 and caught a few more out.
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Gobsmacked at how I pulled that shit out of my arse there... I must have been good to some deity last night. :o
Marty - thanks for your setup.
Q1 - Was disappointed with my qual time, couldn't get a clean lap together...
R1 - Had a good start and probably gained 6 spots... Overall I just tried to stay on the track... dunno if it was colder track or low starting grip, but I wasn't comfortable... still just tried to stay consistent.
R2 - Same again, stay consistent, get a good start and stay out of trouble.
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Lol Rolz.
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First race with AC in weeks and i have to say i had a ball!! Not much practice but after all i am not getting much of it these days.The default setup was not very good but enough to make me going and enjoy the races.I have no idea whats going on with the starting lights,kind of confusing especially the second start ::) sorry 8)
No idea about strategy as well but hey,,,it was fun and good to catch up with you guys and over all i did not do it that bad. My right wrist was sore,the mid finger completely in pain,my neck paralyzed for a minute but my heart was beating and thats important hahahaahahahaa
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* hopefully see you next week
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Simone it says you have the older version of PLP in results. Some guys noticed an issue where the lights didnt always work. Wally fixed this with the latest version so thats probably your problem.
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Grat is my Rival :), Glad you put that in this season wally, adds a bit extra excitement
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Grat is my Rival :), Glad you put that in this season wally, adds a bit extra excitement
Yeah, I can have season rivals and "all time" rivals.
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sweet
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Would rivals not be those that finish within 1 position of eachother. Or is it just for those narrowly dominate another more like a nemesis. ;D
I thought a rivalry would be those that may finish ahead or behind but be the nearest competitors most often. Matthew and I were 1 place apart in both races and Jeremy and Matthew were also 1 place apart both races they did stay close on track both races unlike Matthew and me who had a fairly large gap both ways in each race even if there was only 1 position by the end of the races with 1 win each in the battle.
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Grat is my Rival :), Glad you put that in this season wally, adds a bit extra excitement
I always knew you were my rival:
Season 8: grat 5th, Phil.8 8th; points diff. 44
Season 9: grat 11th, Phil.8 10th; points diff. 38.5
Season 10: grat 10th, Phil.8 6th; points diff. 184
Season 11: grat 4th, Phil.8 5th; points diff. 5
If you set aside my horrible Season 10, our total points diff through 3 seasons is 10.5!
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Would rivals not be those that finish within 1 position of eachother. Or is it just for those narrowly dominate another more like a nemesis. ;D
I thought a rivalry would be those that may finish ahead or behind but be the nearest competitors most often. Matthew and I were 1 place apart in both races and Jeremy and Matthew were also 1 place apart both races they did stay close on track both races unlike Matthew and me who had a fairly large gap both ways in each race even if there was only 1 position by the end of the races with 1 win each in the battle.
Yeah Matthew is certainly not my rival let alone peer - I would think Bacchulum would probably suit that title... we seem to be pretty close when is comes to racing in general.
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Simone it says you have the older version of PLP in results. Some guys noticed an issue where the lights didnt always work. Wally fixed this with the latest version so thats probably your problem.
ok but i am sure i have zipped the latest version in the AC folder,,, i will check again
....no i did not,i got it again and zipped in the AC foder,it should be good to
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Would rivals not be those that finish within 1 position of eachother. Or is it just for those narrowly dominate another more like a nemesis. ;D
I thought a rivalry would be those that may finish ahead or behind but be the nearest competitors most often. Matthew and I were 1 place apart in both races and Jeremy and Matthew were also 1 place apart both races they did stay close on track both races unlike Matthew and me who had a fairly large gap both ways in each race even if there was only 1 position by the end of the races with 1 win each in the battle.
I took the concept from the package Phil uses on Thursdays. You could also look at who you battle with the most on track, in terms of being close together. That might be a more interesting way to look at it (at least in terms of gaps crossing the start line each lap, anyway).
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Would rivals not be those that finish within 1 position of eachother. Or is it just for those narrowly dominate another more like a nemesis. ;D
I thought a rivalry would be those that may finish ahead or behind but be the nearest competitors most often. Matthew and I were 1 place apart in both races and Jeremy and Matthew were also 1 place apart both races they did stay close on track both races unlike Matthew and me who had a fairly large gap both ways in each race even if there was only 1 position by the end of the races with 1 win each in the battle.
I took the concept from the package Phil uses on Thursdays. You could also look at who you battle with the most on track, in terms of being close together. That might be a more interesting way to look at it (at least in terms of gaps crossing the start line each lap, anyway).
That'd be cool!
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Both races I was able to gain a couple positions off the line, even bogged it off the line in R2 and still managed to pass people who must of bogged it completely. Hard one to get right off the line, not that it's any easier driving these beasts around the track once you getting going either. Exciting stuff :D
Race 1; I planned to run half the race then pit and go out again on the 120L with softs. Worked out ok, pitted just infront of Bird and we came out almost side by side. I should of done a few practice runs with this PitConfig app, nothing too bad, maybe lost 1-2 seconds because I wasn't expecting it to just throw me back into the car to go like it does. Clearly my own lack of knowledge causing issues there.
I had a little off not long after the pit stop and that was when Bird got the position off me. The final lap I missed maybe the last 5-6 apex's. Poor cornering and my tyres were hating me, I had a 1 second gap to Stan behind me on that chicane before the final turn. Coming out of that last turn, it was clear that Stan was on a mission and was going to be very very close to taking the position off me. Almost Stan, 0.002 was the difference :O Nice racing Stan, better luck next time :P
Sorry Wally for the outburst coming up to the finish line, I knew we were going to be side by side on the line and just had to try and get a laugh out of Stan.
Race 2; I got caught up in that big crash at the start. I actually got stuck between two cars for a good 5 seconds or so until I could reverse out of it lol. I thought I could change my strategy and still make a decent time out of it. I decided to pit on lap 2 and put hards on, filled the tank and fix the body and suspension (The fix was very quick, didn't even notice it. Mustn't of been as bad as it felt) I was doing 1:52's on the hards, 1:51's if I did a good lap for me. Pretty much adding 1-2s to each lap by moving over to the hards. I did manage to past Wally when he pitted on the final laps, so I thought I must of gained some time somewhere. Looking at the graphs now, it would appear we were quite a bit slower on the long stints and it wasn't a good strategy. At the time though, I thought the damage from the early incident would of slowed me more over the entire race so I was always going to pit early and fix it up and see what I could gain from there.
Looking forward to the next round, hopefully see you all there.
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I believe the damage fix in pits is currently instantaneous - an AC bug that was introduced.
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I believe the damage fix in pits is currently instantaneous - an AC bug that was introduced.
aww man... I don't know if that's a good thing to now know ::)
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I believe the damage fix in pits is currently instantaneous - an AC bug that was introduced.
Good idea, with damage you would lose enough time recovering from the accident which caused the damage, plus the disadvantage of not pitting at the ideal time, without losing additional time sitting stationary in the pit-lane.
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Race 1 was a long battle with Bafs, I managed to pass before the stops but could never pull away.
I got the Hunted award, and it was Bafs hunting. 8)
Race 2 only lasted until Birds shunt.
I thought I had the room to get by but he slammed my rear end.
Detroyed rear wing, both suspensions, engine, gearbox.... well, the only thing NOT red was front left susp. (it was merely orange).
Sorry to whoever hit me afterwards, but I was powerless at that point and couldn't move. :(
Doesn't matter how quick repairs are when you can't get back to the pits. :-[
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Would rivals not be those that finish within 1 position of eachother. Or is it just for those narrowly dominate another more like a nemesis. ;D
I thought a rivalry would be those that may finish ahead or behind but be the nearest competitors most often. Matthew and I were 1 place apart in both races and Jeremy and Matthew were also 1 place apart both races they did stay close on track both races unlike Matthew and me who had a fairly large gap both ways in each race even if there was only 1 position by the end of the races with 1 win each in the battle.
I took the concept from the package Phil uses on Thursdays. You could also look at who you battle with the most on track, in terms of being close together. That might be a more interesting way to look at it (at least in terms of gaps crossing the start line each lap, anyway).
That'd be cool!
Alright, here's a question for you all.
Let's say you were really close behind Bob for 3 laps, say with less than a 1 second gap, but you were a bit further behind John for the next 8 laps, say with a 10 second gap. Who's your rival, Bob or John? Is it the guy that you were closest to on average, or the guy that you were behind more often?
As an example, here's how it pans out using the "Bob" approach - i.e. the guy you were closest to, on average (for more than 1 lap).
These are the first racer's rivals in race 1 and race 2 that you were closest to on average (you can expand the racer's lap history here (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2016/06/s12r1-ferrari-vs-lotus-at-mugello.html) and check the "Gap to Next" column):
Racer, Rival in Race 1, Rival in Race 2
Matthew111,Phil.8,Jeremy
Rolz,Bird,Phil.8
Bafs17,Bacchulum,Rob
hylas,Bafs17,AJ
Freezer,Doobs,Marty
Wally,StanDaam,Simone
Simone,Freezer,Wally
AJ,Doobs,Doobs
Rob,Doobs,Wally
Chap111,Freezer,hylas
Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod
Mael,Doobs,Simone
Vipergod,Simone,Phil.8
Grat,Vipergod,Freezer
Phil.8,Matthew111,Freezer
I tend to think it should be the guy that crossed the line in front of you most often in a race (i.e. "John"), no matter how far ahead they were. That's the guy you're chasing, after all.
This is how race 1 and race 2 rivals come out if you just count the guy you were behind the most:
Racer, Rival in Race 1, Rival in Race 2
Matthew111,Marty,Jeremy
Rolz,Jeremy,Matthew111
Bafs17,Bacchulum,Rob
hylas,Bafs17,AJ
Freezer,Chap111,Rolz
Wally,Freezer,Bafs17
Simone,Freezer,Vipergod
AJ,Rob,Rob
Rob,AJ,Phil.8
Chap111,Wally,hylas
Doobs,Rob,Mael
Mael,Doobs,Simone
Vipergod,Simone,hylas
Grat,AJ,Marty
Phil.8,Matthew111,Rolz
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Matthew111,Phil.8,Jeremy
Rolz,Bird,Phil.8
Bafs17,Bacchulum,Rob
hylas,Bafs17,AJ
Freezer,Doobs,Marty
Wally,StanDaam,Simone
Simone,Freezer,Wally
AJ,Doobs,Doobs
Rob,Doobs,Wally
Chap111,Freezer,hylas
Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod
Mael,Doobs,Simone
Vipergod,Simone,Phil.8
Grat,Vipergod,Freezer
Phil.8,Matthew111,Freezer
Im confused and maybe something wrong with the code here, Doobs pops up everywhere even rivals himself once lol. He is also the only one I am linked to but I never saw him on track or even on the timing screen within my viewable list.
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Matthew111,Phil.8,Jeremy
Rolz,Bird,Phil.8
Bafs17,Bacchulum,Rob
hylas,Bafs17,AJ
Freezer,Doobs,Marty
Wally,StanDaam,Simone
Simone,Freezer,Wally
AJ,Doobs,Doobs
Rob,Doobs,Wally
Chap111,Freezer,hylas
Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod
Mael,Doobs,Simone
Vipergod,Simone,Phil.8
Grat,Vipergod,Freezer
Phil.8,Matthew111,Freezer
Im confused and maybe something wrong with the code here, Doobs pops up everywhere even rivals himself once lol. He is also the only one I am linked to but I never saw him on track or even on the timing screen within my viewable list.
No, "AJ,Doobs,Doobs" this means that AJ's rival in race 1 was Doobs, and AJ's rival in race 2 was also Doobs.
It's "Racer, Rival in race 1, Rival in race 2".
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Fun night for me too.
Race 1 I think I ran wide in turn 1 early giving my place to Bacchulum and then tried my best to keep up with him for the remainder. Never really able to make a move to pass but really chuffed I was able to stick with him. Passed Stan in the pits and just waited for him to come back at me but it didn't happen for some reason. However, I also got lucky early with a couple of accidents damaging a couple of the fast guys and pushing them back.
Race 2 got lucky again after I bogged down at the start but made up some places after a bingle ahead gave me some extra spots. After a while seemed to settle down into 8th place but switched off twice at the same corner in the last two laps handing it over too Rob and ended with 9th.
Easily my best result of racing with two top ten finishes and an overall 5th. Will gloat for a bit until the faster guys eventually push me down the order next week.
I think I like your second idea personally Wally as the guy that finishes ahead of me regularly would definitely be the one I'll be trying to beat. Or maybe the guy ahead of me in the standings?
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My results dont show it but had a good time in these cars
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To me the rival is the so and so who keeps finishing in front of me :P , you know who you are lol
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Matthew111,Phil.8,Jeremy
Rolz,Bird,Phil.8
Bafs17,Bacchulum,Rob
hylas,Bafs17,AJ
Freezer,Doobs,Marty
Wally,StanDaam,Simone
Simone,Freezer,Wally
AJ,Doobs,Doobs
Rob,Doobs,Wally
Chap111,Freezer,hylas
Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod
Mael,Doobs,Simone
Vipergod,Simone,Phil.8
Grat,Vipergod,Freezer
Phil.8,Matthew111,Freezer
Im confused and maybe something wrong with the code here, Doobs pops up everywhere even rivals himself once lol. He is also the only one I am linked to but I never saw him on track or even on the timing screen within my viewable list.
LOL, I was everywhere Marty.
Race one I did alright starting last and finishing 16th.
Race two, started 16th and had climbed to 10th (partly due to crashes of others) and expected to finish 8th-10th but screwed up my fuel and ran out on my in lap to pit. I waited till I rolled to a stop, then returned to the pits and started again in 16th where I finished.
A bit disappointing for me because I had driven okay. Even plonking around by myself was enjoyable though. These cars are awesome
Darren
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I'll make it the guy who's finished the lap ahead of you the most often each race, and a rivalry will appear when that's the same guy in more than one race. So far, there's one rivalry emerging - Rob is AJ's rival. More rivalries will appear as we get further into the season.
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Interesting how in the first example Wally, Vipergod is his own rival "Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod" Never saw that coming ;D ;D ;D
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My results dont show it but had a good time in these cars
Thats the one good thing about these cars, they are still fun on your own or battling in traffic. Still I had way more fun race 2 then race 1 when I had to try fight my way back through traffic making up for my multiple brain fades compared to running a bit of a lonely race in race 1.
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Interesting how in the first example Wally, Vipergod is his own rival "Doobs,Vipergod,Vipergod" Never saw that coming ;D ;D ;D
No, this just means Doob's rival for both races was Vipergod. Racer, Rival in Race 1, Rival in Race 2. This is Vipergod's rivals from that post. Vipergod,Simone,Phil.8 So in Race 1 was rivalling? Simone and in Race 2 the rival was Phil.
Either way, I ended up with the same result with both the Bob and John methods last night. If we were to vote on this, my vote is with the John method.
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I'll make it the guy who's finished the lap ahead of you the most often each race, and a rivalry will appear when that's the same guy in more than one race. So far, there's one rivalry emerging - Rob is AJ's rival. More rivalries will appear as we get further into the season.
That makes sense to me, I do feel like I spent most of my time on Tuesday night chasing Rob!
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Im fairly sure my main rivals would be Jeremy and Matthew. We have all battled pretty much every race and they are kind of like clones as they almost lap identical times each race. There has rarely been much seperating the 3 of us in season points most seasons too.
They used to make it a bit easier when they took eachother out but since their team orders have been tightened up its made it quite a battle 2 vs 1 each race. ;D