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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on October 12, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
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This is the first enduro round, with a single 30 lap race. There is a qualifying session, and the same rolling start.
There are two compulsory pit stops (no pit window), with refuelling allowed. At each stop, you must either change tyres, or refuel, or both.
Fuel rate is 1.7x.
Tyre wear rate is 2x.
You will need to download the OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/2n2my7wm6syes25/Monza_36pits_AC1.7.rar) and extract it into your assettocorsa folder. This adds extra pit boxes to the standard AC track (it adds another track variation, so it doesn't change your original track).
The weather is going to be a beautiful 20 degrees and clear, with a warmer track than the last round.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlNcbABAra8[/youtube]
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Server is up was 17c on the forecast I saw but will change that tonight. Also fuel is currently at 1x but I will also change that, the practice server is currently on the regular track. If it gets a bit too messy then I will change practice server to osrw mod too.
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For this rolling start, we should bunch the field up coming out of the final chicane "Ascari", with the lead car maintaining 100 kmh.
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My throttle pedal has started spiking again... grrrrr. Might have to give it a clean.
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This is what a spiking pedal looks like. GRRRRRrrrrrrRRRRRR again.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436112980478319932/5749F5B5BC036CD5F15F2D4B5548427C40F2A6A1/
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Might as well get thr GTEYE spring upgrade if you run G25/7 and need to open them.
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This is what a spiking pedal looks like. GRRRRRrrrrrrRRRRRR again.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436112980478319932/5749F5B5BC036CD5F15F2D4B5548427C40F2A6A1/ (http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436112980478319932/5749F5B5BC036CD5F15F2D4B5548427C40F2A6A1/)
As an interim measure, can't you set the max range of the throttle pedal to say 75% in the AC control setup, so that at least when you're flat, you're at a consistent 100% in game?
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I have my throttle at 95% but that looks like biggest spikes down to 80% or so. So its far from ideal try a deadzone but a good clean is what it will need, I dont think my g27 has started to spike yet but the g25 did have quite a bit especially on the clutch which took me a while to find.
At least in AC you can set travel zones and also see if its spiking ingame fairly easily. Guys spiking is a bit nasty though so there must be lots of crap getting into your pedals.
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Well I've had this issue for a while as we all know, but I thought swapping the clutch over with the throttle fixed the issue for good.
My conclusion is that you shouldn't wear fluffy socks. I normally wear one sock on my right foot for acceleration and I think the issue must be from the cotton getting into the pedal.
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Never understood why simracers use socks. Not referring to GB here, who seems to be quite a moderate guy, but others spend thousands of dollars for "immersion" and then drive in socks.... I don't get it.
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Never understood why simracers use socks. Not referring to GB here, who seems to be quite a moderate guy, but others spend thousands of dollars for "immersion" and then drive in socks.... I don't get it.
What do you wear on your feet? Any kind of shoes are too heavy for the relatively light pedals and you lose fine control. Socks also feel good in that there's a little slip on the pedals, so you can finesse them easier. Maybe with these various spring mods you get a heavier feel and don't need socks?
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I wear shoes. Would not like to feel the corners of the pedals with my feet, I guess... Initially I just wore any pairs of sneakers (not sure this is the Australian term, though), but then last Christmas my wife bought me a pair of cheap driving shoes. Nothing fancy or high rise or stuff like that. They are just sneakers with a hard rubber sole that is curved on the heel. They are actually quite comfortable.
I have to admit that my pedals are not bad, in the sense that they have the load cell on the brake pedal. So maybe that's why I feel less the need of extreme precision.
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Driving shoes, gloves etc. Just seem too faffy for me - I just want to jump on for a quick few laps and jump off without having to suit up. Having a bare foot on the brake means I get more grip to punch the pedal, where as the throttle I need to gently apply so I need something more slippery that glides over the pedal as I push down hence why I wear a sock on the right foot.
Having said that if it's just practice or a fun race I'll either be bare footed or have socks on both feet (I don't wear shoes inside).
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Ahahah! I agree driving shoes are quite an overkill. Any sneakers would do for me. I just needed a pair of sneakers to keep close to the rig and put on when driving. But my daily low rise chuck taylor's do not seem to like the pounding of heel-n-toeing, so they do not last very long. So I needed a new pair of sneakers basically just for that, and the kind wife thought I might as well had driving shoes... And you know how it is with presents: they are much better than something you bought yourself. ;)
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Having a bare foot on the brake means I get more grip to punch the pedal, where as the throttle I need to gently apply so I need something more slippery that glides over the pedal as I push down hence why I wear a sock on the right foot.
How many of you guys are left foot braking? Would it help in being quicker or just preference. I've always used right foot.
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I wear socks in winter and bare foot in summer.
Nothing to do with feel, just keeping the feet warm. ;)
I also left foot brake when the gearbox lets me, if I need the clutch to down shift I'll heel-toe.
I prefer left foot as you can overlap and keep the car settled, especially when braking and turning.
Otherwise there can be a tendency for lift-off oversteer. 8)
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Having a bare foot on the brake means I get more grip to punch the pedal, where as the throttle I need to gently apply so I need something more slippery that glides over the pedal as I push down hence why I wear a sock on the right foot.
How many of you guys are left foot braking? Would it help in being quicker or just preference. I've always used right foot.
Left foot whenever there is no clutch to operate. I started when living in the US and got an automatic transmission car. After the first few days I felt it was strange I had this useless quarter of my body and so I started braking with it. No need to say: it was not a smooth transition.
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Having a bare foot on the brake means I get more grip to punch the pedal, where as the throttle I need to gently apply so I need something more slippery that glides over the pedal as I push down hence why I wear a sock on the right foot.
How many of you guys are left foot braking? Would it help in being quicker or just preference. I've always used right foot.
I'm like Bacchulum, sometimes left foot brake, sometimes right foot brake.
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I always right foot and heel-toe is way beyond my current ability. Maybe I should give left a go some time.
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I am Faffy :) I wear kart boots as my feet get sore if i dont, and i wear kart gloves cause the Alcantara on my wheel makes hands black. I already own said item for when i go karting :)
Currently using these, best ones owned yet, never buy alpinestar gloves or boots, utter rubbish, i tried 2 sets in the past and both fell apart in weeks
http://www.kkckartshop.co.uk/pc/catalog/1_1517_detail.jpg
I left and right foot brake depending on the car sometimes i do a bit of both in one lap, I think it comes natural to me cause I am lazy and LFB in the old auto ute :)
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I always right foot and heel-toe is way beyond my current ability. Maybe I should give left a go some time.
Takes practice
iracing used to refer people to these articles
http://www.formula1blog.com/editorial/paul-charsley-2/the-drivers-seat-right-foot-vs-left-foot-braking/
http://www.formula1blog.com/editorial/paul-charsley-2/the-drivers-seat-right-foot-vs-left-foot-braking-2/
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Im not so much into immersion to try and make it feel like real driving. No need to wear a race suit, boots and gloves for me. I wear some woolen socks mostly and these dont loose any fluff so likely main reason I dont have as many issues as GB does with the pedals.
Braking wise Im much more comfortable right foot braking but then use the left if it is best for that corner. Only real advantage in lfb is for corners where coast gets rhe car too loose off throttle so you may want to drag some throttle into the initial braking and then also transition back from brake to throttle with some overlap.
At Misano I had to lfb into a few corners but at Monza I dont see the need at any corner. The car actually feels much better at Monza then it did at Misano for me.
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I used to drive barefoot a lot in my younger days. My car had this tiny metal accelerator pedal and I only needed to use my big toe....saved on a lot of effort.
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I practiced left foot braking in real life, in preparation for sim racing... (you think I'm joking!?).
For some reason I just prefer left foot braking - or left boot fraking, as they say. I think I just feel more in control of the car as there isn't that moment when you are lifting your foot from one pedal to the other where nothing is happening downstairs - a bit like a typical saturday night for Marty.
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With the G25, socks were a good option for me, but with the load cell on the fanatic pedals I find my feet hurt when pressing down hard on the brake or they simply slide off.
last week I decided to move my brake pedal closer to the accelerator to improve my dodgy heel/toe technique. On Tuesday I got lazy and used my normal wide berth sandshoes and eventually realized that I was occasionally pressing the gas and brake at the same time. that's why I drove straight off during the first lap lol and later while trying to hold off Simone into turn 1. My wheel didn't turn off at all :-[ as I thought at the time. So I back to my slim shoes for next week :D
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I can't seem to coordinate my two feet so it's right foot braking for me.
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Interesting read. A lot of little differences we have.
It depends on the car that I'm driving to what my feet will be doing. In the current season I am left foot braking. But if I need to clutch in a car, then the left foot is basically solely used for the clutch and my right foot will be in control of the brake and throttle. I'm pretty bad at heal/toe, I need more practice there before I can rely on that technique. But thankfully it's not a requirement for anything we race or I can turn on auto-blip in AC. I've been meaning to start practicing the heal/toe technique in the new audi quattro in iracing.
I don't like racing in bare feet, it's too cold! Socks are on for all my racing. I'm with Phil too, I need to wear gloves for my wheel, I wasn't initially and relised after a couple months that I had started to wear down the Alcantara. After doing some races my hands can get quite sweaty and that was basically destroying the feel on the wheel. I don't have any fancy racing gloves or anything. I just grabbed the inserts out of my snow gloves :)
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All this discussion makes me think we have not have a "guess who" thread in a long time. Wally: are you ready for a SIMRACING RIG parade?
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With the G25, socks were a good option for me, but with the load cell on the fanatic pedals I find my feet hurt when pressing down hard on the brake or they simply slide off.
All the optional screw holes hurt? ???
I had that. >:(
I just backed off the pressure required ('cause it was buggering my knee as well).
Kind of negates why I have a load cell..... ::)
8)
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With the G25, socks were a good option for me, but with the load cell on the fanatic pedals I find my feet hurt when pressing down hard on the brake or they simply slide off.
All the optional screw holes hurt? ???
I had that. >:(
I just backed off the pressure required ('cause it was buggering my knee as well).
Kind of negates why I have a load cell..... ::)
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Yeah, I've reduced the pressure to the minimum too. I found that at default it was so hard to push down to full brake that after awhile I would get tired and only be pushing down to 50%-75% brake and having my brake points be changing by quite a margin because of it. Also running up the arse of people when they slam on their brakes and I couldn't do the same to pull up in time. Then getting out of the chair relising how sore my leg was, it was a nobrainer to turn that pressure right down.
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Socks or no socks is usually fine for me, but the other night it was a bit warm and my sweaty feet were slipping off the pedals so I had to put socks on ;D
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With the G25, socks were a good option for me, but with the load cell on the fanatic pedals I find my feet hurt when pressing down hard on the brake or they simply slide off.
All the optional screw holes hurt? ???
I had that. >:(
I just backed off the pressure required ('cause it was buggering my knee as well).
Kind of negates why I have a load cell..... ::)
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Yep, those screw holes did it for me. I've got the pressure backed off as well but after long sessions the socks still don't protect my sensitive soles :'(
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Barefoot up here in QLD except in hot days where i use sock on my right foot because of the sweating.I am of course from EU and strictly left foot for braking ;D ;D ;D
I had not played AC for a while and i have to say i am impressed with the package,very noice sim.Yesterday i had a race with the AL at Monza and they just did a great job,incredible!!! I put them at 100% and the cars are just well beahving,taking correct lines,not crashing to each other or even worst,into you.and in general they know what to do.....huge fun, my hat off to my contrymen AC ppl :-* :-*,,,,good game!!!
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Well I've had this issue for a while as we all know, but I thought swapping the clutch over with the throttle fixed the issue for good.
My conclusion is that you shouldn't wear fluffy socks. I normally wear one sock on my right foot for acceleration and I think the issue must be from the cotton getting into the pedal.
In the Thrustmaster pedals, the pots are enclosed in a separate little metal housing for extra protection. You could cover them with something, couldn't you, even if it's just glad wrap or something like that to keep the dust out. Or wads of Blutak.
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Well I've had this issue for a while as we all know, but I thought swapping the clutch over with the throttle fixed the issue for good.
My conclusion is that you shouldn't wear fluffy socks. I normally wear one sock on my right foot for acceleration and I think the issue must be from the cotton getting into the pedal.
In the Thrustmaster pedals, the pots are enclosed in a separate little metal housing for extra protection. You could cover them with something, couldn't you, even if it's just glad wrap or something like that to keep the dust out. Or wads of Blutak.
I think GB has already encased them in lube 8)
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Well, I started on a 20 minute clean of the dust under the pedal case last night, but then 2.5 hours later I had a working pedal :)
I decided I'd take the pot apart and clean each part individually, however using my high tech engineering tools - pointy nosed pliers and a steak knife - I managed to slice my finer deep with the steak knife.
Small price to pay for a non-spiking pedal though.
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It would still pay to protect the pot from dust better somehow.
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Yes I think next time I have to take apart the pedals I'll cover the pot up, although I'm not sure what with. Maybe glad wrap will be best.
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Do the pots get hot at all in use? Can they overheat if covered in plastic?
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Do the pots get hot at all in use? Can they overheat if covered in plastic?
I don't think so. They are just a circular slider that is hooked up to the pedal with a few wires hooked in. There is no power to them.
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The currents involved are miniscule, signal only no power.
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Server's up.
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Sorry, I may not race tonight. My wrist has flared up so I'll have to see how it is later.
Cheers
Darren
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Sorry, I may not race tonight. My wrist has flared up so I'll have to see how it is later.
Cheers
Darren
There's not many corners at Monza, you'll be right ;)
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Just a reminder that everyone will need the pit mod from the first post, the practice server has been using the standard official track but as we have more people here we are using the OSRW modded version of the track.
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Sorry, I may not race tonight. My wrist has flared up so I'll have to see how it is later.
Cheers
Darren
There's not many corners at Monza, you'll be right ;)
Ha, that's true Wally, but there's those fricken chicanes!!!!!! :)
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Hmmmm, i can't join the server. I've gone though the usual issues and none of them exist. I'll keep trying
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Hmmmm, i can't join the server. I've gone though the usual issues and none of them exist. I'll keep trying
Got the pit mod?
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Yep. Is Monza an addon, I can't remember
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He (Joe) means the OSRW mod (see first post)...
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Make sure you extract the mod zip file into the right location!
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Yea, I knew what he meant. :) Thanks for the assistance. It turned out to be Geforce Experience screwed me. It changed the rendering from triple screen to occulus rift. I wish they'd stick to their job of delivering useful drivers and I'll do mine of optimising.