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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on February 16, 2016, 08:27:18 PM
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RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2016/02/s10r4-gt3-at-mugello.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2016/01/season-10-standings.html)
Phil.8 didn't do his second pit stop before the end of lap 23 (pitted on the end of lap 24). Now in the black and white letter of the rules, I said this would be a DQ, but I'm sure Phil wouldn't be too happy about that, so I gave him the finish points for one lower position (-10 pts).
Round Points
| Name | Qual | Lap 14 | End | Total |
| Guybrush Threepwood | 15 | 50 | 100 | 165 |
| Marty | 12 | 42 | 84 | 138 |
| Phil.8 | 10 | 20 | 60 | 90 |
| Matthew111 | 4 | 10 | 60 | 74 |
| Bird | 6 | 35 | 28 | 69 |
| Freezer | 0 | 18 | 50 | 68 |
| StanDaam | 5 | 14 | 36 | 55 |
| Bacchulum | 0 | 12 | 40 | 52 |
| Wally | 3 | 25 | 18 | 46 |
| Simone | 0 | 30 | 16 | 46 |
| Jeremy | 2 | 9 | 32 | 43 |
| Rolz | 8 | 8 | 24 | 40 |
| Mael | 0 | 16 | 12 | 28 |
| Bafs17 | 0 | 7 | 20 | 27 |
| Gratulin | 0 | 6 | 14 | 20 |
| christopheraser | 1 | 5 | 8 | 14 |
| Rob | 0 | 2 | 10 | 12 |
| Doobs | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 |
| Flattop | 0 | 4 | 1 | 5 |
| AJ | 0 | 1 | 4 | 5 |
| Dave O | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Chap111 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
Season Podium
1. Guybrush, 495
2. Marty, 382
3. StanDaam, 311
Achilles Heels has a commanding lead over TKO Racing in the team standings.
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Thanks GB and Marty for telling me to slow down and be smoother
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Good to get in a longer race, not much more I could have done GB had me covered easily and I never got close enough to strike. He went Hard, Medium, Hard but I wasnt too sure about the mediums over even 9 laps so just went 3 hard runs where I was only .3 down on his quickest lap but I am pretty sure he was tyres saving all race.
I stuffed up my first stint with points after lap 14 but only having 14 laps of fuel so I lost a spot there to Bird and some points as my pit spot was a few meters behind the start line.
Thanks all was clean all around me all race and I kind of hung on to Guy for most of the race but Im sure If I gained much more on him hed have just pushed the loud pedal a little harder.
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Well, as you might have heard over TS...I am pretty darn pissed with myself.
I had a hard-medium-medium 15/8/11 lap strategy. I was running 2nd at lap 14, 3rd afterwards, pretty darn happy with everything.
But somehow I've mis-calculated the fuel usage. I've been lenient with the fuel and still it did not work out. So I was looking at the tank sitting at 16L and I had 3 laps to go...fuck that. I've frantically moused around to set a 4th config up in the pitting app to put in 10L of fuel.
Stopped on the last lap with 3 drops in the tank, but the pit window only flashed up for a sec....ok I thought this isn't right, went back and forth, thinking that what Wally mentioned about the app occasionally not working correctly, just happened. After going back and forth again and again, stopping every time, I had an epiphany and looked at the fuel gauge....it was sitting at over 30L. Yes, every time I've stopped it has filled in 10L in a blink of an eye.
I was kinda pissed, have I told you guys?
I've realised what happened...I've messed up my calc, and used ~1L/lap less to calculate the required fuel for stints 2 & 3 (I've worked out the fuel for the first stint earlier, but stupid me, I did not do the 2nd & 3rd). I've pitted early the 2nd time - which I did not realise - and put in fuel, that wouldn't have been really enough for 11 laps, let alone 12.
I had a fairly boring race otherwise, early on we had some real racing, but afterwards it was really only lapping alone, Guy & Marty far in the distance.
Bugger it.
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First post updated with results.
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Think I got you beaten Bird.
Managed a setup that were super-light on tires so decided to do the first 14 laps till the first point allocation. Saw Marty pit on lap 14 so assumed the points were awarded at the start of the lap, then heard Marty mentioning he had to stop for fuel :o
Oh well, was well positioned on fresher tires than my competitors. But somehow i lost 2 to 3 seconds a lap after the stop! Realized only after a couple of laps the pit-app (new version just installed before the race) did not change tires and i was lapping with grip levels of 90% on very well used mediums.
It was too far out to go for only 1 more stop so had to go for a 3 stop strategy which would not have been so bad if not for all the laps ran on ruined tires before realizing my mistake :(
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Hmmm, that was actually my worst round, points-wise. I went the TKO team strategy, of 15 laps on hards, to get some lap 14 points, and that worked out OK, with me ending lap 14 in 6th, as other people had pitted earlier. Bird was 3rd, so strategy-wise, that got the team some good lap 14 points (60 pts in total). then I did 8 laps on mediums and the final 11 laps on mediums.
But I got slammed by a Jeremy warp. In slo-mo in the replay, I could see his car was well ahead of me on the track. He started to sink through the track, then was in space, then teleported to the pits, then rubber-banded back to his original spot on track, slamming into my car en route, knocking me off the track and into a wall. That cost me about 5 places and 20 seconds, which was disappointing.
All in all, I thought it was very interesting to come up with a pit strategy for the conditions, and to make the most of the lap 14 points.
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Well I was 6/10th up on my final qualy lap and looking at around 4th or 5th when I slipped wide on one of the final corners and buggered the lap. Anyhow, started then from 11th.
First couple of laps were excellent with lots of very clean side by side racing until things sorted out. I then followed Wally for a bunch of laps and then started getting close but locked a brake taking a shallow line on one of the corners then snapped wide into the path of Stan (sorry).
We got going and from there just kept it clean. Ran hard's each stint basically just splitting the race into thirds and got home 5th.
Funny point system with myself getting pipped by Bird on points who finished 5 positions behind me!!
I must admit I had given any thought to the mid race points thing though.
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Funny point system with myself getting pipped by Bird on points who finished 5 positions behind me!!
I must admit I had given any thought to the mid race points thing though.
Yeah, it's what they do in the long rounds in the Aussie GT3s, to spice up the pit stop strategy a bit. It wasn't a secret - it was well advertised :)
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oops I had it in my head it had to be after lap after lap 6 and after 23 If you have to DQ me that's fine, my stuff up. I still did my best race probably ever and will probably be a while before I can repeat that effort :8 so even if I do get a DQ :) I don.t mind :)
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oops I had it in my head it had to be after lap after lap 6 and after 23 If you have to DQ me that's fine, my stuff up. I still did my best race probably ever and will probably be a while before I can repeat that effort :8 so even if I do get a DQ :) I don.t mind :)
Nah, it feels t0o harsh after racing for an hour!
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Funny point system with myself getting pipped by Bird on points who finished 5 positions behind me!!
I must admit I had given any thought to the mid race points thing though.
Yeah, it's what they do in the long rounds in the Aussie GT3s, to spice up the pit stop strategy a bit. It wasn't a secret - it was well advertised :)
I probably did read it some time ago, but was focused on the 6/23 rule... dooh!
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Stats are really impressive this round showing each drivers pit stops and how much fuel and what tires. Nice!
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Funny point system with myself getting pipped by Bird on points who finished 5 positions behind me!!
I must admit I had given any thought to the mid race points thing though.
Yeah, it's what they do in the long rounds in the Aussie GT3s, to spice up the pit stop strategy a bit. It wasn't a secret - it was well advertised :)
It does add to it a bit doesnt help when you stuff up your fuel calculation and end up .2 of a lap short needing to stop on lap 14. I had hoped my pitbox was after the line as I had a fair gap to Bird at the time. My pitbox was actually only 1m from the line so I maybe could have crossed then backed up but I would have ended up losing more time to Guy and I though the 1 lap earlier stop may undercut and have a chance of passing him. I think had I stopped 2 laps earlier and maybe sacrificed just the points to Bird I could have got a jump on him with an undercut. Not sure if I would have stayed ahead though but may have spiced the race up a little more.
It did seem the best strategy was stopping on lap 15 and 23 but seems the guys that went the mediums all got off them a little earlier as they turned to poo before lap 23.
Stats are really impressive this round showing each drivers pit stops and how much fuel and what tires. Nice!
Except it doesnt show the fuel everyone added each stop, I added fuel both stops but it doesnt show me adding any.
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Except it doesnt show the fuel everyone added each stop, I added fuel both stops but it doesnt show me adding any.
It show my fuel, and few others but not all.
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Except it doesnt show the fuel everyone added each stop, I added fuel both stops but it doesnt show me adding any.
Yeah, there's something funny going on there. It only shows fuel added for some people:
Line 30033: CHAT [christopheraser]: PLP: Added 70 litres|christopheraser
Line 30654: CHAT [Freezer]: PLP: Added 75 litres|Freezer
Line 30906: CHAT [Gratulin]: PLP: Added 63 litres|Gratulin
Line 31778: CHAT [Bafs17]: PLP: Added 72 litres|Bafs17
Line 31987: CHAT [Rob]: PLP: Added 90 litres|Rob
Line 33350: CHAT [Mael]: PLP: Added 80 litres|Mael
Line 34082: CHAT [Guybrush Threepwood]: PLP: Added 41 litres|Guybrush Threepwood
Line 34543: CHAT [Wally]: PLP: Added 117 litres|Wally
Line 39776: CHAT [Matthew111]: PLP: Added 95 litres|Matthew111
Line 40514: CHAT [Freezer]: PLP: Added 75 litres|Freezer
Line 40852: CHAT [Gratulin]: PLP: Added 62 litres|Gratulin
Line 41651: CHAT [Simone]: PLP: Added 40 litres|Simone
Line 41657: CHAT [Wally]: PLP: Added 25 litres|Wally
I wonder if it makes a difference if you are or are not using the PitConfig app? How much fuel did you add Marty? Fill it up, or some lesser amount (not that it should make any difference).
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It does add to it a bit doesnt help when you stuff up your fuel calculation and end up .2 of a lap short needing to stop on lap 14. I had hoped my pitbox was after the line as I had a fair gap to Bird at the time....
It seems you've actually succeeded - I'm 3rd at lap 14 :)
Lucky you! But also well deserved - you were much faster...
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I adjusted the PLP app in its ini to add=0
;Set "FUEL / add" to "1" to ADD the fuel to the amount already in the tank or set to "0" to fill the tank up to the amount selected on the app.
;UI Size example: Set "UI / sizemultiplier" to "1.2" in order to increase UI size in 20% (min: 1.0, max: 3.0)
[FUEL]
add = 0
This was so I would only top up to the needed amount for my next planned stint. I set it to 60 for the middle stint + new hard tyres and 75I think for the final stint + hard tyres.
Looking through the list its about half the people have only got a fuel addition during this race but I would assume most would have added fuel each stint. After all if you change tyres then you may as well add fuel while they are changing tyres.
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Made a terrible late judgement call on strategy and went with a full tank and mediums from the start, then managed to have a big moment towards the end of lap 1 or 2 which torched my left rear tyre. Spent the next few laps trying to get it to cool down but it never quite recovered. Changed to hards on lap 10 with no fuel addition but was still struggling with the large amount of fuel in the tank and by the time I pitted the 2nd time on lap 21 to change tyres again and add another 70 odd litres of fuel, the rest of my race was just trying to stay out of the way of people coming past. I think the only times I managed to get in front of a few people were during pitstops and when they made mistakes, can't remember being behind another car for anything more than a few seconds after they lapped me.
That said, I enjoyed the experience of the longer race; adding the strategy element makes it into a completely different ball game! Look forward to more of that.
From the sounds I was hearing on Teamspeak it sounded like it was a relatively clean and well run race with not too many incidents between racers which was good to hear.
Well done all, and thanks again Wally for your efforts in organising these shenanigans!
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It does add to it a bit doesnt help when you stuff up your fuel calculation and end up .2 of a lap short needing to stop on lap 14. I had hoped my pitbox was after the line as I had a fair gap to Bird at the time....
It seems you've actually succeeded - I'm 3rd at lap 14 :)
Lucky you! But also well deserved - you were much faster...
Maybe my pitbox was just ahead of where it registers the lap, I did see the big sign ahead of me as I stopped and also saw me go from 2nd to 3rd while stopped so I assumed I lost those points but seems I got lucky there.
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I adjusted the PLP app in its ini to add=0
;Set "FUEL / add" to "1" to ADD the fuel to the amount already in the tank or set to "0" to fill the tank up to the amount selected on the app.
;UI Size example: Set "UI / sizemultiplier" to "1.2" in order to increase UI size in 20% (min: 1.0, max: 3.0)
[FUEL]
add = 0
This was so I would only top up to the needed amount for my next planned stint. I set it to 60 for the middle stint + new hard tyres and 75I think for the final stint + hard tyres.
Looking through the list its about half the people have only got a fuel addition during this race but I would assume most would have added fuel each stint. After all if you change tyres then you may as well add fuel while they are changing tyres.
Strange, because that's exactly what I had done too. There is a bit of AC nonsense where it can start the pit stop without properly registering that you're in your pit box - maybe that's buggering up the fuel detection sometimes.
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It does add to it a bit doesnt help when you stuff up your fuel calculation and end up .2 of a lap short needing to stop on lap 14. I had hoped my pitbox was after the line as I had a fair gap to Bird at the time....
It seems you've actually succeeded - I'm 3rd at lap 14 :)
Lucky you! But also well deserved - you were much faster...
Maybe my pitbox was just ahead of where it registers the lap, I did see the big sign ahead of me as I stopped and also saw me go from 2nd to 3rd while stopped so I assumed I lost those points but seems I got lucky there.
Could that possibly be the reason that Phil seems to have pitted on lap 24 rather than 23? He did qualify towards the front, meaning his box would be towards the front of the pit lane?
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It does add to it a bit doesnt help when you stuff up your fuel calculation and end up .2 of a lap short needing to stop on lap 14. I had hoped my pitbox was after the line as I had a fair gap to Bird at the time....
It seems you've actually succeeded - I'm 3rd at lap 14 :)
Lucky you! But also well deserved - you were much faster...
Maybe my pitbox was just ahead of where it registers the lap, I did see the big sign ahead of me as I stopped and also saw me go from 2nd to 3rd while stopped so I assumed I lost those points but seems I got lucky there.
Could that possibly be the reason that Phil seems to have pitted on lap 24 rather than 23? He did qualify towards the front, meaning his box would be towards the front of the pit lane?
No, I actually record the lap on which you enter the pits, so it's the same for everyone regardless of where your pit box is.
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Ah OK, makes sense. I figured it would be something that would have been thought of before :)
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Q1 - was stoked to put down a good time with track grip not at optimal
Enjoyed last night was overall happy with how I went - except with the brain fart around lap 31
I was out too far and the PLP picked me up on it... I tried to slow down enough so I wouldn't be pinged (would have gotten 10sec penalty otherwise) but couldn't control it coming back onto track and watched a few drivers pass me as I was on the kitty-litter.
Should have finished 6-7th but ened up in 10th :-[
The Neighbors I'm sure heard me swear :P
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Was stoked to get into the high 1:52's on hards... didn't think I'd ever manage that!
;D
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I adjusted the PLP app in its ini to add=0
;Set "FUEL / add" to "1" to ADD the fuel to the amount already in the tank or set to "0" to fill the tank up to the amount selected on the app.
;UI Size example: Set "UI / sizemultiplier" to "1.2" in order to increase UI size in 20% (min: 1.0, max: 3.0)
[FUEL]
add = 0
This was so I would only top up to the needed amount for my next planned stint.
Ahhh this is what I need!!
I way over estimated fuel and it was hurting my head trying to work out how much fuel I would have in the tank in 3 laps time and how much I would have to add at the last stop to get home... ???
My race was pretty good, had some up n down moments, all part of the drama of a long race.
I too forgot about the lap 14 points. Started on my meds, hoping to get some track position before the race settled down. This worked well till about lap 8 then it was time to pit. Came out of the pits into some traffic, some tight racing with Freezer n Wally. After some good battling (all good Freezer :D), I pitted on about lap 22 for the stint home. I think it was Matthew that was in his pit bay when I entered the pits, which was right in front of my pit box. So I stuffed up landing in my bay, reversed a couple of times before I got in. Came out and settled in to a good fight with Jeremy (a pity bout a few lag spikes Jeremy, but they seem to settle down later in the race, you haven't got any wifi in the equation?). Good racing here and eventually got passed him but couldn't hunt down Bacchulum towards the end.
Enjoyed the longer race, good stuff. :P
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yeah totally forgot about the lap 14 post too... :-\
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yeah totally forgot about the lap 14 post too... :-\
you predicted you would be happy with a top ten, well done!
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Happy with my night's effort, while not quite as exciting a race as some had, I had forgotten it was an hour race! did some offline practice but only sprints, so I too had to do some last minute mental arithmetic for fuel and tyres.
Glad I only use mediums for the short intermediate stop, they went to jelly pretty quickly with my understeering driving! Not bingles and only a couple of offs, but better still I at least did my PB on the last stint on hard tyres, (and between cut track laps :) ).
Great organisation AGAIN Wally, thanks. Thanks to the lapping cars too.
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you predicted you would be happy with a top ten, well done!
Thanks Bruce! Yes I certainly am happy :)
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Qual was fun. I only left myself one hotlap at the end as I wanted to test mediums on full fuel over a few laps before that. I thought there would be quite a few leaving the pits at the same time due to the track grip but also because of the tyres overhreating. I allowed a little extra time and came out of the pits just ahead of Stan with a few other cars also in tow, so it worked out well for me. The lap was OK, enough just to snare pole form Marty by a few tenths.
The race was good. Marty always seemed to be within a few seconds of me. I dediced to take a gamble and mix things up by doing a short medium tyre stint inbetween two long hard tyre stints. The medium tyre was fairly average. I could have got more time out of it but was busy trying to nurse it around and not overheat it - but still fast enough to get the quickest lap of the race. The rest of the time I was trying to manage the hards and not wear them out, although they weren't as bad as I thought they might be when they started to loose grip so I probably could have gone a little harder. Marty kept me honest though, and while lapping some of the other cars I think it got down to 2 or 3 seconds towards the end.
A good nights racing with a nice change-up. Thanks to all.
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No strategy at all if not the one to finish the race.Great race guys!! I did had fun chasing wally and gratulin.I think i n the first stint wally was racing with hard, and i could manage him but after the pits(we stopped together) i could not manage him anymore :-[,probably he put medium on.
Gratulin instead always been around me but clearly he was slower :o,maybe he was damaged......but great fun guys thx,,,and the game is fun!!!
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No strategy at all if not the one to finish the race.Great race guys!! I did had fun chasing wally and gratulin.I think i n the first stint wally was racing with hard, and i could manage him but after the pits(we stopped together) i could not manage him anymore :-[,probably he put medium on.
Gratulin instead always been around me but clearly he was slower :o,maybe he was damaged......but great fun guys thx,,,and the game is fun!!!
Exactly right. I had hards until lap 15, then mediums for the rest.
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No strategy at all if not the one to finish the race.Great race guys!! I did had fun chasing wally and gratulin.I think i n the first stint wally was racing with hard, and i could manage him but after the pits(we stopped together) i could not manage him anymore :-[,probably he put medium on.
Gratulin instead always been around me but clearly he was slower :o,maybe he was damaged......but great fun guys thx,,,and the game is fun!!!
Definitely slower based on qual times but quite pleased to give you and Wally a bit of pressure. Wally's pace looked all over the place due to damage I think but he pulled away towards the end. Good fun to try and jump you both in the pitstop. Couple of mistakes cost me though.
Were you running zero aero? I was pretty slow down the main straight on Aero 1.
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No i was not on zero wings mate
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No strategy at all if not the one to finish the race.Great race guys!! I did had fun chasing wally and gratulin.I think i n the first stint wally was racing with hard, and i could manage him but after the pits(we stopped together) i could not manage him anymore :-[,probably he put medium on.
Gratulin instead always been around me but clearly he was slower :o,maybe he was damaged......but great fun guys thx,,,and the game is fun!!!
Definitely slower based on qual times but quite pleased to give you and Wally a bit of pressure. Wally's pace looked all over the place due to damage I think but he pulled away towards the end. Good fun to try and jump you both in the pitstop. Couple of mistakes cost me though.
Were you running zero aero? I was pretty slow down the main straight on Aero 1.
Running long stints on hards and mediums meant my tyres were pretty ropey for a good part of the race.