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Title: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2015, 01:09:13 AM
Pros: The Merc is much easier to drive than the BMW, and it's speeds is more in the Ferrari 458 territory (very close).

Cons: Has everyone who wants to race in season 6 bought the DLC pack which contains the Merc?
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Perch on March 13, 2015, 08:19:42 AM
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130312013032/random-ness/images/f/f0/Why_not_both.jpg)

Although I doubt the whole roster will reply, yes I have the DLC.
The DLC must be damm popular of there's already enough data and times to show its relative pace.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: StanDaam on March 13, 2015, 08:27:06 AM
Wally you are all over it!!! Like your style doooode!! I was thinking exactly the same thing (well I didn't know which car to swap it with but the BMW seemed off the pace). Haven't tried the Merc yet but yeah like the idea  :D
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Bird on March 13, 2015, 09:00:08 AM
The both is actually the best option :)
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2015, 09:14:51 AM
Both, yes, but I think it will mean no DLC, no play. Even though the Merc is a great fit, I wouldn't want to preclude people without the DLC, at least for this season. I already know Imp hasn't bought the DLC.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Simone on March 13, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
ye i got it
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Bird on March 13, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Both, yes, but I think it will mean no DLC, no play. Even though the Merc is a great fit, I wouldn't want to preclude people without the DLC, at least for this season. I already know Imp hasn't bought the DLC.
I think everyone who took AC half-seriously got the DLC already, the rest can buy it for the price of a good meal, still. 
I would not worry about that, but let the folks vote it out.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Freezer on March 13, 2015, 09:44:11 AM
Both, yes, but I think it will mean no DLC, no play. Even though the Merc is a great fit, I wouldn't want to preclude people without the DLC, at least for this season. I already know Imp hasn't bought the DLC.
I think everyone who took AC half-seriously got the DLC already, the rest can buy it for the price of a good meal, still. 
I would not worry about that, but let the folks vote it out.
I got it but haven't tried it out yet.  Will check over the weekend.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Gratulin on March 13, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
We'll be running either the Alfa GTA or the Alfa 4C in the next THURSDAY night series. Too good to not run a series with these cars!
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Matthew111 on March 13, 2015, 01:22:06 PM
The merc is my new favourite car haha. Wasnt it the grp A BMW we were racing? There is a DTM version which i think compares well to the merc
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
The merc is my new favourite car haha. Wasnt it the grp A BMW we were racing? There is a DTM version which i think compares well to the merc

The DTM's a bit too fast.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Who has signed up for season 6 and won't have the DLC by Mar 24 start of the season?
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: StanDaam on March 13, 2015, 09:38:59 PM
+1 to the Merc being a fine choice!!
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Simone on March 13, 2015, 09:57:47 PM
Who has signed up for season 6 and won't have the DLC by Mar 24 start of the season?

I would not changed the BMW at this stage

I voted yes but i regret
Title: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Gratulin on March 13, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
It's a pity to have bought the DLC and not use it on Tuesdays.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2015, 11:55:35 PM
We will no doubt use the DLC on Tuesdays, for sure. I'm just a bit mindful of ”changing the rules” after people signed up for the season.
But I'm not hearing a chorus of no's at this stage, so we may end up biting the bullet and leaping in with the DLC. The Merc is a fine car to drive.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wobblyone on March 14, 2015, 12:27:30 AM
I have DLC not tried merc yet but happy to run it if better than the bmw which does seem to have a disadvantage unless in the hands of the top guys.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Simone on March 14, 2015, 08:57:04 AM
We will no doubt use the DLC on Tuesdays, for sure. I'm just a bit mindful of ”changing the rules” after people signed up for the season.
But I'm not hearing a chorus of no's at this stage, so we may end up biting the bullet and leaping in with the DLC. The Merc is a fine car to drive.

perfect then!!!
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wobblyone on March 14, 2015, 04:08:24 PM
I'm confused (doesn't take much). I tried the merc loved it on gp ring track...feels very fast can brake later than in the x bow feels nicer tighter and the kph speeds are good down the straight..it feels like something's wrong with the physics when I'm braking later getting similar speeds and can set the gear ratios better in the mercedes...so why the hell am I nearly 5 seconds a lap faster in the x bow...makes no sense to me at all...offline 2.15.4 x bow 2.20.1 mercedes...gutted cos I love touring cars....
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 14, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
I'm confused (doesn't take much). I tried the merc loved it on gp ring track...feels very fast can brake later than in the x bow feels nicer tighter and the kph speeds are good down the straight..it feels like something's wrong with the physics when I'm braking later getting similar speeds and can set the gear ratios better in the mercedes...so why the hell am I nearly 5 seconds a lap faster in the x bow...makes no sense to me at all...offline 2.15.4 x bow 2.20.1 mercedes...gutted cos I love touring cars....

On the RSR rank, the XBow and Merc world records are both in the 2:12's.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 14, 2015, 06:07:56 PM
Practice server is up with the Merc as well:

http://52.64.7.168:8080/lapstat?track=nurburgring&cars=bmw_m3_e30_gra,ferrari_458,ferrari_f40,ks_mercedes_190_evo2,ktm_xbow_r&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wobblyone on March 14, 2015, 06:12:28 PM

On the RSR rank, the XBow and Merc world records are both in the 2:12's.
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That's mental.......lol how the hell do these guys do that?
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 14, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
Well, I reckon it's a winner then... I'll add the Merc 190 to the mix, which means you will need the DLC to participate in the season.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: imperious on March 16, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
I put a post in the other thread, but I really don't mind sitting out a season of AC till I get the DLC later.
I think it would be pretty unfair to expect everyone else to miss out just because I'm a bit of a tight arse.

I didn't realise the price was going up when it became a full release, so I'll wait till a 1/2 price special hopefully
over Easter, if not then I will be out of AC for a fair while.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Freezer on March 17, 2015, 08:20:11 AM
$19 AUD for the DLC...... do it Imp its pretty good  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: StanDaam on March 17, 2015, 08:29:00 AM
Yeah I think it's a bargain!! I actually waited because I wanted to donate more for this excellent game. I thought the original game was too cheap, especially when you compare it to iracing... (never goin back!!)  :D
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Matthew111 on March 17, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
I think they ruined the BMW DTM I did some quick laps in both cars around imola and nurburgring and these were the times

Nurb
merc 2:11:8
BMW 2:13:6

Imola
merc 1:54:7
BMW 1:56:2

Now a few months back I managed a 1:54:8 at imola in the BMW so they have obviously changed something with that car in a update and its not as good to drive, its almost like its on different tyres to the merc and it feels very rigid and edgy now.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wally on March 17, 2015, 12:14:03 PM
DTM or Group A? The season 6 car is the Group A.
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Matthew111 on March 17, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Yeah DTM so grp A will be even slower
Title: Re: Season6: Swap Merc 190 for BMW E30?
Post by: Wobblyone on March 17, 2015, 06:41:34 PM
I managed a 2.11.5 on a different server in the merc at nurb it's head and shoulders above the bmw...love the sound too....still a difficult decision on car tho as ktm not a lot slower......I found 5 seconds a lap after realising my g27 was buggered lol
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