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Title: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 13, 2020, 10:07:10 PM
Congratulations to killagorilla and Joe on the race wins. Congratulations also to Simone for setting the fastest Supercars lap, and to Rob for setting the most consistent Supercars lap times.

RACE 1 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2020/10/s35r1-road-america-utes.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2020/10/s35r1-road-america-supercars.html)

SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points - Utes
killagorilla   300
Joe   276
AGK   258
Wally   240
Simone   222
ab156   222
Phil.8   204
Bacchulum   192
Freezer   180
JamieP   168
Dave O   144
Rob   138
Neville   132
Mael   0
AbleArcher83   0

Round Points - Supercars
Joe   300
ab156   276
Freezer   258
AGK   240
Mael   222
Phil.8   204
Wally   192
AbleArcher83   180
Dave O   168
Rob   156
JamieP   144
Simone   138

Penalties
Race 2 - ab156 for losing control and hitting Wally - 50kg penalty ballast for the next Supercars race.

Season Standings - Utes
1. killagorilla, 300
2. Joe, 276
3. AGK, 258

Season Standings - Supercars
1. Joe, 300
2. ab156, 276
3. Freezer, 258



Season 35 kicks off at Road America (download (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/road-america.32732/)).

Practice is combined utes and supercars.
Then qualifying at 8:30 pm EDST is in the utes only,
First sprint is in the utes, and the finishing order sets the start order of the next race.
Then the feature race is a 40 min race in the supercars, with a CPS for tyres. Refuelling is optional.

Don't forget to sign up for the season here (https://xgnsimracing.com.au/season/signup), and post your utes make in the sign up thread (http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=3037.0).
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Joe on October 14, 2020, 08:32:03 AM
I totally got my days mixed up and forgot racing was last night  :o
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Simone on October 14, 2020, 09:32:51 AM
This formula of mixing cars(totally different from each other) and forcing  the ute race to determine the grid position for the main race is brilliant!!
I can see finally you got rid off those horrible ballasts system and at the same time you are mixing the races giving the chance to everybody to have fun!!
And yes.......no more 3 starts!!  noice!!

Wally........Christmas is fast approaching and a donation too!!!       AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 14, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
Thanks Simone. Yes, I'm looking forward to the races. The fun run had lots of bumper to bumper and side by side racing. In both series it's easy to make small mistakes which let's others catch up.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Freezer on October 14, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
Lessons learnt:
I wont be starting up the front in Supercars!
Don't lock the tyres in supercars, its downhill from there.
Suspension breaks easily against the fence!
:) :)
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Mael on October 14, 2020, 04:07:02 PM
Lessons learnt:
I wont be starting up the front in Supercars!
Don't lock the tyres in supercars, its downhill from there.
Suspension breaks easily against the fence!
:) :)

Don't use 56% brake bias.
Avoid following anyone closely as hard braking causes immediate U-turn
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Phil.8 on October 14, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
After a few very drunken laps I have decided the sedan isn't even a little bit of fun to drive around here
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Freezer on October 19, 2020, 11:11:34 PM
Fair spread of times so far . . .  :-\

Not sure where Simone found that extra 3.7 seconds  :(
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: killagorilla on October 20, 2020, 01:31:07 PM
Not having done any laps in these cars before last week's fun runs I've done a number of laps at Watkins Glen the day after, on Wednesday. FFB is very strong in the utes so I reduced it 4 or 5 times in steps...and it's still too high. So I developed early stages of a tennis arm...awesome. I had to do some practice for Monza in the GT3, then yesterday's 90min race...yeah, havent done a single lap at Road America. I've got the pain under control it seems, but racing 3 cars a week and doing practice as well is too much atm.
GT3's are priority as they are just the most fun to drive. So my thinking is doing a few laps in the ute there at Road America and then do only the 20min race tonight...see how we go with that. It takes time to work out setup and braking points in the v8's and I don't like working that out during qualy...leads to crappy results and possibly accidents as well.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 20, 2020, 06:12:50 PM
Server's up for combined utes & supercar practice, with the usual server password. Skins will just be random during practice. Then I'll restart the server for Q1 & R1 in the utes with correct skins etc.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Joe on October 20, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
Oops. Totally forgot to sign up earlier
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 20, 2020, 07:31:19 PM
Oops. Totally forgot to sign up earlier
It's alright, I've got you on the grid.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 20, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Races are 6 and 18 laps.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: killagorilla on October 20, 2020, 09:23:23 PM
Wow! That went a lot better than expected. Forgot to turn on crew chief so the start was difficult with I think Wally next to me, but it was great close racing. Thanks for not shooting me off, Wally...keeping these guys under control with cold tyres is not easy  :).
Qualy could have been better...bad luck with traffic. Well, lucky Joe made a little mistake then...passing him would otherwise most likely not have worked.
A very rare win...whoohoo!!!  :)
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: AGK on October 21, 2020, 12:41:30 AM
For everyone's amusement, how not to enter the pits at this track ;D

(https://s.gock.net/images/pit-crash.gif)
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 21, 2020, 07:55:05 AM
Nice one AGK, I did the same thing. I thought "Woo hoo! I can enter the pits as fast as I like," and then promptly spun it.

@killagorilla, at the start of the ute race, my PC froze for a fraction of a second, and I bounced off the car to my right when it came good.

I was a second or two off the pace in race 2. I had front and back body damage, and I was umming and ahhing about whether to fix it in the stop, but the car felt OK so I didn't do repairs. Maybe I should have.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Joe on October 21, 2020, 09:00:15 AM
Well done Killa. Didnt seem to be a way to close the gap without mistakes; I made one and you didn;t.

So maybe I should have read this somewhere before but this is being run like two seasons? I assumed the points would be added together.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: killagorilla on October 21, 2020, 09:51:34 AM
@killagorilla, at the start of the ute race, my PC froze for a fraction of a second, and I bounced off the car to my right when it came good.


Oh, that's bad luck. Yeah, sorry, I think it was actually AGK next to me going side-by-side through a number of turns at the start. I was on the outside and thought, 'ooh, that's gonna be drama', but it wasn't...perfectly clean racing. Again, I find grip is very low with cold tyres at the start.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 21, 2020, 10:30:33 AM
Well done Killa. Didnt seem to be a way to close the gap without mistakes; I made one and you didn;t.

So maybe I should have read this somewhere before but this is being run like two seasons? I assumed the points would be added together.
Yep, two different standings - the support category and the main category.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Freezer on October 21, 2020, 01:05:20 PM
Good nights racing!  Qualified slightly better than expected in the utes for 6th.  I was tracking along okay with AB and Phil, but twice ran wide at the long right hander and grabbed some sand loosing ground to get home 8th.  Not super confident in these but hopefully practice makes perfect!!
Supercars were a different story as the seas parted and i jumped to 3rd on the first lap, but it wasn't long before Phil and a pretty quick Mael were past.  I ran long on the first stint with the softs holding up well but then threw on the super softs for the final 6 laps.  I had AB close behind and really pushed to catch Simone in front.  I took a big dive at the final turn on Simone but then he fired off track (turns out he was out of fuel) and then a final slip on the last lap saw AB past, but happy with a 3rd place to start the season.

Interesting that I got the "Busiest" tag with a total gap of 12.39 seconds . . . . doesn't sound very busy!
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Ablearcher83 on October 21, 2020, 01:19:55 PM
Well done Killa,
Well could not get any worse for me.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 21, 2020, 01:55:30 PM

Interesting that I got the "Busiest" tag with a total gap of 12.39 seconds . . . . doesn't sound very busy!
You were pretty close to someone nearly all the time, except for the section in the middle of the race when people were pitting.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Freezer on October 21, 2020, 02:36:12 PM

Interesting that I got the "Busiest" tag with a total gap of 12.39 seconds . . . . doesn't sound very busy!
You were pretty close to someone nearly all the time, except for the section in the middle of the race when people were pitting.
Just couldn't correlate the 12 second gap with busiest!
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 21, 2020, 03:09:39 PM

Interesting that I got the "Busiest" tag with a total gap of 12.39 seconds . . . . doesn't sound very busy!
You were pretty close to someone nearly all the time, except for the section in the middle of the race when people were pitting.
Just couldn't correlate the 12 second gap with busiest!
You can see it in the "gap to leader" chart. You were battling with Simone and ab156 for a long time, while others ended up more spread out.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Simone on October 21, 2020, 03:55:40 PM
Fuck ye!!!   Does not happen often that ,while racing online i can  smell burnt fuel from the guy ahead and hearing the  screeching rubbers  of the guy behind!!!!!!!
I was expecting more from the brute Holden but in the end i got what i deserve. Top...top professional start with the v8s...Huge first 2 laps. After practicing a couples of hours with the super soft during the week for some drunken decision i put the soft on and then using the super soft in the pits.....wrong!!!   It turned out it was all super soft,,,all the way mate!!

Yes freezer,, i went long cause my engine was coughing badly and i just wanted to evacuate the arena safely.

yes,,,2 litres seapareted  me from a psichedelic second position!!!!

Ab156 going straight at braking(not easy thing to do) approaching corner 5 Was NOICE!!!!!

Passing freezer while freezer still in the pits........,,/..,'       great online moments......thx guys!!

A big congrats to killa for the win.....I am jelous!!!
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: bradc on October 21, 2020, 04:26:15 PM
Oh Shit, I hadn't realised this season was starting last night!
Had a crap day at work and so I didn't bother heading out to the shed because I thought we still had another night of testing these cars before the season started...a big DOH moment from me  :-[
Hopefully I won't be too far behind come round 2
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 21, 2020, 05:46:48 PM
Oh Shit, I hadn't realised this season was starting last night!
Had a crap day at work and so I didn't bother heading out to the shed because I thought we still had another night of testing these cars before the season started...a big DOH moment from me  :-[
Hopefully I won't be too far behind come round 2
You've always got the thought of the dropped round to cheer you up :)
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: ab156 on October 22, 2020, 12:00:40 PM
Penalties
Race 2 - ab156 for losing control and hitting Wally - 50kg penalty ballast for the next Supercars race.


One of the most deserved penalties! Won't be a thread debating this one  ;). Really sorry Wally, not even trying at that stage and just a rookie error - not in control of the car.

Other than that I had a good nights racing, Utes were more fun than expected but the V8s is where the real fun is.  Once the brake bias is sorted and a metre or 2 allowance applied in the braking zones they are pretty consistent. Great racing back through the field with the unfair advantage of SS. Was certain I was going to take out Simone at T5 as I went sliding by, lucky one there. From there on it was 100% intensity with Simone and Freezer, had a (passing) moment of empathy for Freezer when he handed 2nd to me going off at T5 on the last lap.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Mael on October 23, 2020, 01:14:54 PM
Since no-one is saying it.   :o

The SS tyre was by far the superior race tyre. It almost felt like cheating in the first few laps and it did not suffer much degradation.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Freezer on October 23, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
Since no-one is saying it.   :o

The SS tyre was by far the superior race tyre. It almost felt like cheating in the first few laps and it did not suffer much degradation.
A ha, that's why you caught me so quickly! :)
I used it in the final stint but wasn't watching times and didn't realise we dropped into the 10s!
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Joe on October 23, 2020, 09:07:56 PM
Since no-one is saying it.   :o

The SS tyre was by far the superior race tyre. It almost felt like cheating in the first few laps and it did not suffer much degradation.

Yeah that became pretty clear after the race when I checked that tyres the people in the 10s were on. Glad I got far enough ahead at the start
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: ab156 on October 24, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
Since no-one is saying it.   :o

The SS tyre was by far the superior race tyre. It almost felt like cheating in the first few laps and it did not suffer much degradation.
A ha, that's why you caught me so quickly! :)
I used it in the final stint but wasn't watching times and didn't realise we dropped into the 10s!

Going to be interesting if they last at Brno - different wear characteristics...
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 27, 2020, 10:52:33 AM
Around 10/11 laps the left side ss tyres were gone, I didn't take note of lap times at that point though.
Brno-testing
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: Wally on October 27, 2020, 02:15:36 PM
Around 10/11 laps the left side ss tyres were gone, I didn't take note of lap times at that point though.
Brno-testing
Could be a stretch over 19 laps then, hey? Unless you run a split S/SS strategy.
Title: Re: S35R1 - Road America
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 27, 2020, 02:27:55 PM
Provided lap time is still fast enough at 10 laps I think it might be worth all ss. A longer or maybe hotter race then no. Will have to do a few test laps tonight.

They still had tread, any more than 12 is probably out of question
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