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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on October 11, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
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RACE RESULTS AND CHARTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/s14r1-maserati-gt4-at-misano.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/season-14-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=300873498)
ALL TIME STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=8)
Lap 1 Penalties
Race 1, Dave O ran into the back of Doobs, 50kg penalty ballast for the next race.
Race 2, Dave O had a big accident by himself and bounced off some barriers into the back of Seanus, a racing incident - no penalty.
Jeremy came off track and then carelessly re-entered the track, squeezing nith and hitting him several times, 25kg penalty ballast for the next race.
Round Points
Grat 79
Matthew111 70
Marty 57
Jeremy 54
Phil.8 53
nith 42
Wally 36
hylas 29
Joe 22
Bacchulum 21
Mael 21
Keith 16
stevenngo 12
Freezer 9
Simone 7
Bafs17 5
Rob 4
RussG 3
AJ 2
Vipergod 1
Dave O 0
Doobs 0
Flattop 0
Gratulin 0
Guybrush Threepwood 0
GzeroD 0
Hornbag 0
M8R 0
Rob LTD 0
slideways 0
Congratulations to Grat on pole position and both race wins - a clean sweep.
Season Podium
1. Grat, 79 points
2. Matthew111, 70
3. Marty, 57
Team Standings
Struggle Street Racing Crew (Matthew and Jeremy) have made a good start to the season, leading DA Racing (Grat and Wally) 124 points to 115.
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I'm a little annoyed. I lost server contact in both races because something went screwy with steam.
I had fun for the bits was involved in.
see you next week
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Qualified 5th then on the first lap on the second part of that odd double apex near the start of the lap I gave it slightly too much throttle and spun onto the grass. It wasn't safe to rejoin so I waited for a gap and got back onto the track in 17th.
I got past several people then was behind Gratulin for a while. It took me a few laps to figure out where I could get past; I tried on the left hairpin a couple of times but eventually got past on the inside at the end of the straight after that hairpin. After that I caught up with Bacculum but there was no way I was getting past him.
Race 2 start behind Bacculum again and knew it wasn't gonna be easy to pass. The two of us got past Keith then it felt like the latter part of R1 again. I knew I could probably get an undercut and was about to go into the pits myself when he did and I managed to get a clean lap with no traffic, take my stop and get out in front.
After that I joined the Nith, Wally and Hylas train for the rest of the race. Some very close racing, (too close at one point, my bad), but everyone held it together and even though I was getting better exits on a lot of corners this track is so hard to pass. Just fingers crossed one of you had a cut track penalty as I didn't. Think that was 11th place finish.
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Big problems for me to with Steam :( I think it was you I took out in the 1st race Doobs ? Sorry m8 :( a big seniors
moment :-[ And sorry to Zero for the wipeout in race 2 (lost the back end & was just a passenger.
Not a great night on my part, although had a good battle with Hornbag at the back. Hope I get it together a bit
better next week. Dave O.
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Race 1 probably best not to say much as I have nothing good to say there about some driving there.
Race 2 starting 5th I ended up losing a place and the last thing I wanted to do is have another race next to the guy from race 1 so I pitted early. Managed to have a reasonably clear run through the traffic and after the others had stopped I picked up 3 spots into 3rd. Last few laps my tyres were fairly used but I had just a big enough gap on Jeremy to manage to stay in that spot. Well done to Grat who had some good pace each session and I wouldn't have been able to stay with even if it wasn't such a mess race 1.
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Struggling to be overly speedy in these cars! Race one I blew as coming on to the front straight for the first time I spun sending me well back. From there I got a couple and kept it clean.
Race two was better with some opening lap passes and generally clean race.
I think the rolling start needs to be cleaned up as the field was way to spread out. Speed was up to150 during the lap and when the front guys crossed the start/finish the back markers still had two corners to negotiate leaving them way behind.
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Results and points up in the first post. I originally copied the Blancpain scoring style, where only the top 6 and 10 in the two races get any points at all, but with our big field that left a lot of people with no points at all, so I stretched the scoring positions out, so the top 12 get points in the first "qualifying" race, and the top 20 get points in race 2.
Race 1: 22, 19, 16, 13, 11, 9, 7, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
Race 2: 56, 51, 46, 41, 37, 33, 29, 25, 22, 19, 16, 13, 11, 9, 7, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
Enduro race: 78, 70, 62, 54, 48, 42, 36, 30, 26, 22, 18, 14, 11, 9, 7, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
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I think the rolling start needs to be cleaned up as the field was way to spread out. Speed was up to150 during the lap and when the front guys crossed the start/finish the back markers still had two corners to negotiate leaving them way behind.
Probably need to keep the speed a bit lower and more consistent, say 120 kph, with the gaps more closed up.
Race 1 probably best not to say much as I have nothing good to say there about some driving there.
Two PMs sent!
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My two races were pretty good, with no mishaps or accidents. In race 1, Jeremy had an off a few laps into the race and I got past him, but then he was putting pressure on me from behind so I decided to pit a little earlier than I had planned to, to get rid of him. It didn't work out too bad - I came out behind Russ but I think he ran wide somewhere and I could get past, then Rob was too gentlemanly and just let me past when I caught up to him, and from there it was chasing Jeremy and then Nith. I made up 1 spot on my qualifying position, so that wasn't too bad.
Race 2, I decided to pit on lap 2 to get out of the pack (as did Marty). I had a little bit of clear track for a few laps, but then nith pitted too, and I ended up about less than a second behind him for 13 laps. As our tyres went off a little from the early stop, Hylas and Joe caught up to make a 4 car train, but no one could get a pass anywhere with us all circulating in the 47s/48s. I finished in my start position.
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Struggling to be overly speedy in these cars! Race one I blew as coming on to the front straight for the first time I spun sending me well back. From there I got a couple and kept it clean.
Race two was better with some opening lap passes and generally clean race.
I think the rolling start needs to be cleaned up as the field was way to spread out. Speed was up to150 during the lap and when the front guys crossed the start/finish the back markers still had two corners to negotiate leaving them way behind.
You are probably right we can do a bit better. But I thought I might share my experience as leader (given that I fully expect others will take the honours in the next races...)
From my perspective, I was mostly using the whole lap trying to swerve left and right and cause as much understeer I could on the slow corners to keep some heat in the tyres. I kept an eye on the mirrors to make sure everybody was there with me, and slowed down to pack us up in the last 3 or 4 corners. From where I was, I could see only down to 4th or 5th position, and they were all very close to me.
Looking at the result graphs and some of the gap times, it seems like there were gaps in the middle of the pack. I am not sure I know how the leader can avoid them, though. The last two corners were just before the start. I delayed the "go" until basically the start/finish line, but with 30 of us I doubt we can keep the whole pack in much less than that distance...
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Hey Wally I probably should have got 50kg for the second incident too :-[ Sorry Seanus.
I should spend most of the next weeks round checking for blue flags ;D
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Oh, sounds like a saucy night! Looking forward to seeing some videos Marty!
Well done Grât on the round win - your first?
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Oh, sounds like a saucy night! Looking forward to seeing some videos Marty!
Well done Grât on the round win - your first?
Not the first round win (2nd), but first of almost everything. First pole! First double! First of many things really (lead all laps; win with fastest laps?...).
More importantly: it's the first time I get a season win in a racing car with standard... procedures. I only got wins or fastest laps in street cars before, often with some kind of reverse grid.
Of course you weren't there. ;) I saw your lap on the practice server and I have no idea how you manage to get an entire second from me even on my best ever day...
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...the second incident too :-[ Sorry Seanus...
No harm no foul Dave, I was driving with my mirrors and saw you lose it, and in the end I only went from second last to second last.(sic)
As to the race this combo seemed to suffer random acts of god, wherein I couldn't even begin to push lest I locked up and spun in places where to me it seemed track grip was just a lottery on each lap. because of this I felt it better to let the early pitters back past me as it was odds on I would just spin in front of them and take them out.
Cheers Ta Mate
Seanus
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Struggling to be overly speedy in these cars! Race one I blew as coming on to the front straight for the first time I spun sending me well back. From there I got a couple and kept it clean.
Race two was better with some opening lap passes and generally clean race.
I think the rolling start needs to be cleaned up as the field was way to spread out. Speed was up to150 during the lap and when the front guys crossed the start/finish the back markers still had two corners to negotiate leaving them way behind.
You are probably right we can do a bit better. But I thought I might share my experience as leader (given that I fully expect others will take the honours in the next races...)
From my perspective, I was mostly using the whole lap trying to swerve left and right and cause as much understeer I could on the slow corners to keep some heat in the tyres. I kept an eye on the mirrors to make sure everybody was there with me, and slowed down to pack us up in the last 3 or 4 corners. From where I was, I could see only down to 4th or 5th position, and they were all very close to me.
Looking at the result graphs and some of the gap times, it seems like there were gaps in the middle of the pack. I am not sure I know how the leader can avoid them, though. The last two corners were just before the start. I delayed the "go" until basically the start/finish line, but with 30 of us I doubt we can keep the whole pack in much less than that distance...
It could just be the nature of that track too, with it's tight corners where it's hard to stay bunched up. Next round at Monza could be quite different.
Hey Wally I probably should have got 50kg for the second incident too :-[ Sorry Seanus.
I should spend most of the next weeks round checking for blue flags ;D
Well, it's not like you just ran straight into the back of him... you lost the rear, slid into a barrier and then bounced back onto the track. It was more an accident than a blatant rear hit.
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For the new guys, I have added some stats links to the first post:
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=300873498)
ALL TIME STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=8)
You can always get to these from this sticky thread (http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=837.0).
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Was a good night of racing from my seat. Looking forward to the videos.
Race 1 i made a mistake in the final few laps and lost 3 places.
Race 2 i pitted early after flat spotting the tyres. Lots of consistent laps with a bunch of cars behind me.
Marty. No hard feelings. I never actually hit you. You never passed my b pillar and there was some rubbing. I enjoyed that battle and hope more of the races this season are like that.
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Marty. No hard feelings. I never actually hit you. You never passed my b pillar and there was some rubbing. I enjoyed that battle and hope more of the races this season are like that.
I pitted early race 2 to avoid more of the same so clearly I didnt enjoy that as much as you seemed to. I ran patiently behind you all over the road likely 20 seconds in penalties had you ran plp in the first few laps. I tried my best to not run into the back of you and make a clean pass, I passed then you dive bombed back pushed me off the road and regained the spot. This would typically mean a redress and seeing I followed you for half a race with no contact and you couldnt follow for 1 corner I considered that pretty fair.
The t2 contact I was not a long way up but about half way alongside and you just turned in so nothing I can do but again the times you were alongside I always left you lots of racing room. It would be quite easy to simply dive bomb and push you off the road but thats not exactly fair is it?
Then on the back straight you just kept running into me for whatever reason meaning it was impossible to pass or even drive beside you.
The track cutting makes it pretty hard to compete with someone running a different track. Race 2 you ran plp and so actually tried to stay on the track and it shows in laptimes. ;)
It was your first race so hopefully you learn from this, simply leave racing room and try to stay on the actual track. With PLP running that will sort you out but awareness of others is something you need to inprove. No hard feelings just hopefully youblearn from that and dont consider that good or fair racing.
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I think the rolling start needs to be cleaned up as the field was way to spread out. Speed was up to150 during the lap and when the front guys crossed the start/finish the back markers still had two corners to negotiate leaving them way behind.
Its kind of an issue with single file starts, you see this quite often in race restarts and as there is no safwty car the lead car controls pace. We need to set a new max speed for lead car, at Monza this will likely be much close but then it will likely cause issues there into t1.
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Big problems for me to with Steam :( I think it was you I took out in the 1st race Doobs ? Sorry m8 :( a big seniors
moment :-[
I know it wasn't deliberate or grossly stupid so I don't have a problem Dave O. :)
I was in a great position to view the second race start and the conga line looked pretty good from where I was.
I certainly hope I don't have the same server issues next race. Everything was going swimmingly until cars started darting all over the place, then I lost the server. Teamspeak didn't have an issue, and I had good connection to everything else but after it happened again in race two I couldn't access Steam store or community, so I'm blaming Steam.
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Marty. No hard feelings. I never actually hit you. You never passed my b pillar and there was some rubbing. I enjoyed that battle and hope more of the races this season are like that.
I pitted early race 2 to avoid more of the same so clearly I didnt enjoy that as much as you seemed to. I ran patiently behind you all over the road likely 20 seconds in penalties had you ran plp in the first few laps. I tried my best to not run into the back of you and make a clean pass, I passed then you dive bombed back pushed me off the road and regained the spot. This would typically mean a redress and seeing I followed you for half a race with no contact and you couldnt follow for 1 corner I considered that pretty fair.
The t2 contact I was not a long way up but about half way alongside and you just turned in so nothing I can do but again the times you were alongside I always left you lots of racing room. It would be quite easy to simply dive bomb and push you off the road but thats not exactly fair is it?
Then on the back straight you just kept running into me for whatever reason meaning it was impossible to pass or even drive beside you.
The track cutting makes it pretty hard to compete with someone running a different track. Race 2 you ran plp and so actually tried to stay on the track and it shows in laptimes. ;)
It was your first race so hopefully you learn from this, simply leave racing room and try to stay on the actual track. With PLP running that will sort you out but awareness of others is something you need to inprove. No hard feelings just hopefully youblearn from that and dont consider that good or fair racing.
For the record, as an impartial observer I didn't think it was that bad. Nith was holding his line while Marty was trying to get alongside, with a fair bit of side by side panel banging. People can watch the replay and/or video which I'm sure Marty will do, and make up their own minds. These kinds of things are always good to evolve community standards of what constitutes fair racing.
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Tough race. Race one qualified just behind Wally and even though I drove a good race I never got close to him.
Race two Wally's early pit stop distracted me causing a messy lap 3. This meant I landed behind a number of other drivers which I found nearly impossible to pass. Had a very enjoyable time chasing Keith until he ran wide a few laps from the finish.
My views on the starts is that race 2 warmup lap was way too quick. There should be a maximum speed as these laps are usually done behind a safety car to ensure a bunched up grid. And while I'm complaining can we have a MASSIVE FRONT WING to glue to the front of the car?
All in all at least team Maki engineering got some points, me and Freezer will do better next time and then maybe Wally will deem us worthy of a place on the points table ;D
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Tough race. Race one qualified just behind Wally and even though I drove a good race I never got close to him.
Race two Wally's early pit stop distracted me causing a messy lap 3. This meant I landed behind a number of other drivers which I found nearly impossible to pass. Had a very enjoyable time chasing Keith until he ran wide a few laps from the finish.
My views on the starts is that race 2 warmup lap was way too quick. There should be a maximum speed as these laps are usually done behind a safety car to ensure a bunched up grid. And while I'm complaining can we have a MASSIVE FRONT WING to glue to the front of the car?
All in all at least team Maki engineering got some points, me and Freezer will do better next time and then maybe Wally will deem us worthy of a place on the points table ;D
Oops, I've left you off the team table. I'll fix it!
I found I had to slow quite a bit and turn in quite early. If team driver #1 Grat allows it, I'll post my setup.
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Tough race. Race one qualified just behind Wally and even though I drove a good race I never got close to him.
Race two Wally's early pit stop distracted me causing a messy lap 3. This meant I landed behind a number of other drivers which I found nearly impossible to pass. Had a very enjoyable time chasing Keith until he ran wide a few laps from the finish.
My views on the starts is that race 2 warmup lap was way too quick. There should be a maximum speed as these laps are usually done behind a safety car to ensure a bunched up grid. And while I'm complaining can we have a MASSIVE FRONT WING to glue to the front of the car?
All in all at least team Maki engineering got some points, me and Freezer will do better next time and then maybe Wally will deem us worthy of a place on the points table ;D
Fixed!
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Can someone upload the replay from last night? I'd be interested to have a look.
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Can someone upload the replay from last night? I'd be interested to have a look.
Aren't we all ;D
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I found I had to slow quite a bit and turn in quite early. If team driver #1 Grat allows it, I'll post my setup.
Ahahah! It looks like I just gave all my secrets to Phil... :(
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I found I had to slow quite a bit and turn in quite early. If team driver #1 Grat allows it, I'll post my setup.
Ahahah! It looks like I just gave all my secrets to Phil... :(
its ok, I only told Joe :)
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Marty. No hard feelings. I never actually hit you. You never passed my b pillar and there was some rubbing. I enjoyed that battle and hope more of the races this season are like that.
I pitted early race 2 to avoid more of the same so clearly I didnt enjoy that as much as you seemed to. I ran patiently behind you all over the road likely 20 seconds in penalties had you ran plp in the first few laps. I tried my best to not run into the back of you and make a clean pass, I passed then you dive bombed back pushed me off the road and regained the spot. This would typically mean a redress and seeing I followed you for half a race with no contact and you couldnt follow for 1 corner I considered that pretty fair.
The t2 contact I was not a long way up but about half way alongside and you just turned in so nothing I can do but again the times you were alongside I always left you lots of racing room. It would be quite easy to simply dive bomb and push you off the road but thats not exactly fair is it?
Then on the back straight you just kept running into me for whatever reason meaning it was impossible to pass or even drive beside you.
The track cutting makes it pretty hard to compete with someone running a different track. Race 2 you ran plp and so actually tried to stay on the track and it shows in laptimes. ;)
It was your first race so hopefully you learn from this, simply leave racing room and try to stay on the actual track. With PLP running that will sort you out but awareness of others is something you need to inprove. No hard feelings just hopefully youblearn from that and dont consider that good or fair racing.
For the record, as an impartial observer I didn't think it was that bad. Nith was holding his line while Marty was trying to get alongside, with a fair bit of side by side panel banging. People can watch the replay and/or video which I'm sure Marty will do, and make up their own minds. These kinds of things are always good to evolve community standards of what constitutes fair racing.
Here's an observation. Is Nith using a controller (not a wheel)?
I noticed his in car wheel movements are very quick back and forth, which would account for the not always smooth driving line.
And if that's the case . . . well done!
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Interesting observation... ptracker does not say what the input method was for him.
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I found I had to slow quite a bit and turn in quite early. If team driver #1 Grat allows it, I'll post my setup.
Ahahah! It looks like I just gave all my secrets to Phil... :(
You might as well tell your teammate too ;)
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I am using g27 with a 3 x 27" screen setup.
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Then what Freezer saw was just the replay showing other cars at the server's refresh rate.
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I decided to look at the replay and I see the same as what Freezer stated. Very quick steering input.
I'm wondering now, what do you have your wheel rotation set to Nith? Maybe you have too small of a rotation and that's causing you to work a lot harder then you need to.
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I am using factory Logitech settings and happy with them.
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Let's leave poor nith alone. People are looking at the replay to ctiticise him, but we all know how mary likes to moan. Like grat said it's prob just the way the replay is played back.
I had some close racing with him at VIR and although he was quite aggresive for someone in their first league race, he was fine. Again first league race is a good point to make here. I had bird complaining at me in my first race ;D
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I'm not criticizing at all, just thought I would add something that might help out. I know I've improved by others making observations of me.
And I agree Joe, I had a great race with Nith at VIR aswell.
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Completely agree with Joe. Nith: sorry we have been scrutinizing you a bit. Please believe it was not intended and we all just want to help all having great races on Tuesday night.
Marty is one of the cleanest and most respectful drivers, and not only on our league. No surprise then that he also expects very very high standards from others. But I am sure we'll all learn a bit more from the replay of the race of what unintentional things might nonetheless create unnecessary fuzz.
Of course, as Joe and Hylas, I have generated my (way more than) fare share of mess in my simracing "career". ;)
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Let's leave poor nith alone. People are looking at the replay to ctiticise him, but we all know how mary likes to moan. Like grat said it's prob just the way the replay is played back.
I had some close racing with him at VIR and although he was quite aggresive for someone in their first league race, he was fine. Again first league race is a good point to make here. I had bird complaining at me in my first race ;D
Bird complained at my first race also :)
Bird- you must not have seen me
Me - I saw you alright :)
Good times, I miss bird
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I'm not criticizing at all, just thought I would add something that might help out.
Maybe criticizing was the wrong word but feel a bit sorry for Nith here. Your point is very valid though as Assetto Corsa expects the G27 to be set up with 900 degrees of rotation which is then adjusted in game on a car by car basis, so you really need to have it at 900 to get the most out of the game.
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Guys sorry been busy since that post, havent made up a video yet and as I said at first maybe I should have said nothing as I had not much good to say. But as Nith considered it a great race I had to say why I didnt think so.
Let's leave poor nith alone. People are looking at the replay to ctiticise him, but we all know how mary likes to moan. Like grat said it's prob just the way the replay is played back.
I had some close racing with him at VIR and although he was quite aggresive for someone in their first league race, he was fine. Again first league race is a good point to make here. I had bird complaining at me in my first race ;D
Im sure it would be better to simply encourage everyone to drive unfairly and not realy respect others on track. Why bother with plp or track limits and driving others off the road should become the standard we expect of all. Its the guys first race and Im sure he will improve but if you dont point out places where people can improve they will just continue on as they do.
Overall Nith showed some good stuff I think. Not having PLP and excessive cutting was the most frustrating. But with PLP this will be fixed. I watched the replay and lost count at about 12 times where he would have been called by plp so at least 30 seconds in penalties. But likely more times where all 4 wheels were off track and not on a curb. This track as most consider curbs part of track so to be called it means you have to be outside of a curb with all 4 wheels to be called.
His actual line on defense was fine when not side by side, but when alongside contacts werent huge it was just very 1 sided as I did my best to avoid any contact and also did my best to not try and bump past the easy way. It wasnt the same from the other side and had I simply taken the first opportunity and drove him off the road or not left racing room any time he was alongside then Im sure he would have thought differently of the same race. ;)
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Everyone stuffs up, but it's good to see the replay and what people think as a way to understand what is expected, not as a slant against the person who may have made a mistake.
The truth is that we all need a reality check every now and again (especially that "Wally" guy!) and shouldn't take it as a personal afront.
I've lost count of the number of times I've nudged Marty (and others) in the prac servers when we are mucking around. You learn and move on.... and smash them off the road somewhere else.
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Agreed. Learning is the key word. I was very unsure about what to do in my first races, even if I knew all the rules and customs and so on. It's just certain things look a little different from different perspectives.
As long as we talk in a constructive way, I see no problem looking at replays, of course. But I do remember being a little accused on my 1st race and I do remember feeling quite sad about it. That's why I wanted to reassure Nith that there's nothing personal in looking at his replay. Just we all want to learn.
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But I do remember being a little accused on my 1st race and I do remember feeling quite sad about it.
Same, that's why I jumped in here. I got some grief for something I thought was totally fine. It took me about a year racing at XGN to actually feel confident enough to race properly. Nith seems to have that confidence already 8)
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Just to clarify, as Wally said, I don't think Nith was driving to bad. I simply watched the replay and his wheel was turning from lock to lock very quickly where as on checking other cars they seemed much smoother, hence my controller comment.
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Yes well its not a personal thing, Track limits if he didnt have PLP then he didnt even know where they were and in race 2 he only had 1 cut so shows he can easily drive there when having some feedback about where they are. The giving a little more room is all thats really needed and he wasnt terrible but as I could see hes fairly competent it was just frustrating at the time that all contacts were when I was on 1 side of the of the track (on white line or within centimeters of it) leaving the entire rest of the track yet he still wanted that 1 car width I needed. ;)
I just had some runs at Monza and some great 3 way battles with 2 guys from the US with pings of 200 and 250, 3 wide into t1 lots of side by side running through the first chicane with all 3 very close. So thats just where especially those with a bit more pace need to give a little room to others so everyone can enjoy the racing a bit more. Bumps and rubs will happen but they shouldnt keep happening simply because 1 car fails to give at least mimimum racing room of 1 car width to the white line to cars that are overlapped. Everyone makes mistakes so its no real big deal, but the option is to either get all to drop to the level of running each other off track any chance or keep it friendly leaving them some track to battle you with.
Id prefer option B and if it got to the point where some people constantly run you off the track then its people id rather avoid on track. Im sure Nith isnt like that and it was just a one off, he showed a fair bit of good stuff and just a bit rough around the edges atm.
It takes a bit of practice to run close to others so it takes time, maybe chill a little and give a bit more room then needed rather then less. You can still gain or hold spots, and passing someone without them thinking you were a bit of a prick about it will let all respect you more on track.
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I had a good run all things considered :) couldnt get the car to work properly in prac so made a raft of changes for qualy with jeremy and they were terrible the cars were no where, we reverted back to the prac setup with a few changes for race 1 and the car was better but still average but i managed 2nd through just staying out long putting my head down getting clear road. Race 2 I made more changes in the 5 min prac and the car was all of a sudden on the money lol so i could attack properly in race 2. Had a good pressure battle with grat all race but he drove well and i couldnt get a run on him so i stayed 2nd all race but the pace was awesome :)
Really enjoy these cars once they work!