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Title: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 24, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
Race Results and Charts (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2015/03/s6r1-nurburgring-gp.html)
Season Standings (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2015/03/season-6-standings.html)
Season Stats (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Jeremy    73
Matthew111    66
StanDaam    63
Wobblyone    63
Wally    54
Rolz    50
Shameless    50
UnFknBLievable    50
Bafs17    46
Freezer    46
Marty    46
Krahl    38
Ysu    38
Vipergod    32
Rob    30
Joe    27
Grubbet    26
G0RGAK    24
Perch    24
Simone    23
Whitemoo    11
EdWood    4

Season Podium
1. Jeremy, 73
2. Matthew111, 66
3. StanDaam, 63
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 24, 2015, 11:47:55 PM
Great racing tonight thank you to the organisers and everyone for a great meeting...really enjoyed my night and did far better than I thought I would to be honest with 2 poles and my PB in practice...race one good start from pole and managed to hold the lead from Jeremy who kept me under pressure until the Alfa did its thing and threw him sideways...gave me a 6 second gap which I maintained until the end, race 2 pole had a few missed gears on the down changes I think my 10 y o g25 is getting tired lol...managed to finish second and maintain good laptimes but was under pressure from Matt in the merc which was clearly stronger on certain parts of the circuit and I was stronger on others...race 3 good start into p2 then got great drive and had the run on Jeremy and wanted to get into p1 ASAP as I knew I could Make him work to get past but ended up running out of talent on cold tyres after a brave move ..span out big time how I missed the pack I don't know...over revved my engine and damaged it trying to rejoin half a lap down, recovered to 7th on the last lap but dropped to ninth in the end...really pleased with the result after the ongoing steering issues which seemed pretty sorted tonight.  The racing was interesting with the varying grip levels between sessions and my changes seemed to suit the conditions...congrats to everyone on a fun night of racing.

Congrats to Jeremy matt and stan on the podium.

Cheers Wobbs
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on March 25, 2015, 12:30:37 AM
Was some fun racing, I chose the 458 this season for a bit of a challenge and maybe give a few guys in the quicker cars a hard time of possible but race wins arent going to be easy unless others make some mistakes.

Race 1 not a great qualy,  then into the last turn of lap 1 unfortunatly had a car warp from about 3 lengths ahead to just behind me which tagged me and spun me out. A bit of damage but nothing too severe so I continued on but got tagged from the rear again at t4 by another which spun me into the wall and broke suspension so I retired.

Race 2 again not a great qualy but had an ok start and made up a few spots, started chasing stan who began to warp a little so I backed off a little to try and get a race finish under my belt. I likely wouldnt have got close enough anyway but tried to keep a fast charging wally behind me for most of the race in another 458 finishing 5th with us both running a similar pace for most of the race.

Race 3 got a better qualy lap in finaly and had a good start moving to 3rd into t1 then Wobbly had a spin ahead of me which I just got around. I then spent the next 7 laps with Stan and Matthew trying their hardest to get by my 458. I just gave it all I had and tried to not make any errors making them find a way past. Surprised to hang on to second thanks to the 458 grunt but I was pretty vulnerable in a few sections so it was hard work staying there and the guys did well not to tag me at any point which would have been easy to do.

Should be an interesting season, the 458 hasnt got the lap speed to keep up with the dtm cars but if it gets ahead its got the straight line speed to make it very tough for the dtms to get past.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 12:40:07 AM
I had fun, too, it's really keeping you on your toes to drive the Beast :)

However, it seems we need to learn the differences in the cars. Eg this thing is slow in those tight corners.  I can't help it.  And I can't give you the inside line by default, either, 'cause then I might as well give up participating, right?
If you're behind me and can't pass cleanly, suck it up.  If there's overlap going into a corner I'll give you room, otherwise DON'T TOUCH MY ASS! :D

Oh, and if you overtake (Joe my friend!) please try not to slot in half a meter in front of me just before the corner - and brake early to top it off.  Lucky I was on the brake already due to the danger present.   I'm not saying it's illegal, just stupid to expect the other to fully anticipate that move.


But yeah, otherwise it reminds me of GTL times, chasing the small cars in one of those tanks...good fun, gents, good fun.  I could use a bit more power, though, it seems, hehe. 

The early stages were a bit chaotic at times - hell even the later stages - but generally the standard of racing was pretty darn good.  I'm happy :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 01:01:30 AM
 8) But u have such a lovely ass bird...it's hard not to want to touch that butt lol

But yea u do have to have presence of mind with the greatly varying corner speeds of these cars especially if u are in your rhythm and the closing speeds on some turns can be scary in the dtm versus just about everything other than the x bow,  and yea nail on the head GTL... the point and squirt cars verse the terriers lol
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on March 25, 2015, 09:27:58 AM
Awesome start to the season!  :)

UnFknBLievable and I had such a brilliant battle first race... so close and clean too!  ;D
hopefully watch the replay sometime this week to see how close that finish was!

2&3rd races I muffed it, but I think I failed by choosing hard tires over having medium first race... couldn't get the heat up and I think this was my issue.

Boy the Ferrari's have the pace down the straight line, but on the corners they aren't as forgiving as the Alfa or Mercs... Alfas are the sand out that's for sure!

Cya's next Tuesday!  ;D
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Was great fun yesterday.

Sorry Bird but keep in mind this is my first time ever sim racing and I'm still learning. Helicorsa showed I was in front of you so I moved back over onto the racing line before the corner. Didn't seem like an issue to me, but maybe it was a lot closer than I realised so sorry for that  ;)

First race I was pretty much on my own and kept it consistent. I definitely notice I'm a lot slower than most people out there and I brake a lot earlier, partly due to being in the 458 and partly just being a newbie.

Second race I got hit and spun out twice in the first couple of laps which put me right near the back of the pack. Not sure if it was me braking early or not that caused the collisions, but it's highly possible.

Third race was the most fun I've had in racing game, sat in the middle of a pack for a couple of laps trying hard to not hit anyone (except Bird), but then the pressure of that red F40 on by ass got the best of me and I spun off the track. I then had a bit of fun chasing Grubbet, over took him, then spun off the track letting him past again, then eventually getting by right before the last corner on the last lap after getting a good line/speed through the chicane.

All in all had a great evening and was pleasantly surprised not to come last. I think my mic wasn't working because I tried speaking a few times and nobody responded  :)

Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on March 25, 2015, 10:12:08 AM
Looks like the 'lets ignore Joe game' worked a treat!!  ;D

My night was pretty good, but fighting my intermittent warping did put a dampener on it for me. But when I was solid, I had some excellent battles, especially with Mathew, Marty, Perch and Rolz. Great fun in race 3 trying to work out how to get round Marty on a corner and not lose a spot to Mathew at the same time... looks like it's going to be a good season!!
I'm going to re-install my windows (been about 2 or 3 years so it's time for a fresh install!!) and clean up my fans etc to hopefully cure my nasty warping issues  >:(
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 10:23:16 AM
I have a high ping because I'm in the wops...wondering if I had any warping issues with u guys...I didn't see any myself but hoping it was ok for others...had a few taps from others when on my view I was clear of them so don't know if that was lag.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on March 25, 2015, 10:43:26 AM
I didnt notice you warp Wobbly but I wasnt that close to you. Only time I saw you was when you spun infront of me on race 3 and it wasnt any odd warps in that.

I got unlucky in a freaky warp race 1 then Stan had the warps pretty bad race 2 with his ping getting up to 500 but he seemed stable race 3 when he was very close behind at most apexes. Matthew was also very close to him so his connection must have been much better in that race.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Perch on March 25, 2015, 11:11:07 AM
Not the best night for me. Went back to pits in race one as I was stuffing gear changes everywhere and was frustrated with myself and worried I'd en up ruining someone else's races. Race two I was still have a lot of trouble and blew the engine in the end which did little to improve my mood. So race three I took off the try hard panties both figuratively and literally. I swapped the jeans for shorts (I work up the sweats in these races :o) and took off my shoes. They have a nice wide toe which can help with heel-toeing but not with pedal feel. I wanted to start from the back for race three and take my time.

This ended up being a load more fun and I got involved in a few dices and heavy traffic at points. It was great to see a mix of totally different cars battling it out and the racing was closer than I had thought it would be given the spread of cars.
Sadly on around lap three or four at turn two I moved over into someone who was on the inside. I did ask on TS after the race but I'm not sure who it was. They were in a Bimmer or Merc. At the time they apologised took the blame but it was certainly my fault. My attention was on what was happening to my right and I never even looked to my rear/left. Even so, I think the whole pack must have slowed down to avoid further carnage and so it appears nobody lost out too badly.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 25, 2015, 12:21:36 PM
If you're behind me and can't pass cleanly, suck it up.  If there's overlap going into a corner I'll give you room, otherwise DON'T TOUCH MY ASS! :D
Given your power advantage the only option is to try and get you in the bends, unfortunately whilst trying to stay extra close I got a bit to close.
Not intentional just a bit of a slip on my behalf.  And for the record I have Noooo desire to Touch Your Ass!!!  :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2015, 12:31:34 PM
I always race in socks.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 12:33:05 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on March 25, 2015, 12:35:49 PM

I always race in socks.
ONLY socks. I don't even want to think about it ;)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 25, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
Reasonable night for me.  I had pretty good pace in practice being in the low 13s but once we got under way found the track grip tricky and was not nearly as quick.  Qualified in the back end of the top 10 for each race however was getting smashed at every flag drop loosing around 5 spots each time.  Like some others I had a bit of warping at times which with a very low ping, new GTX970 a bucket of ram I not to sure why, but luckily it didn't cause any accidents.  I soon discovered that despite the Merc's good lap time, it didn't mean much when chasing a Ferrari.
Regardless I had a number of good battles throughout each race.

And yes, socks are the way to go!! :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on March 25, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
Was pretty fun racing that merc it kept me very busy lol

Race 1: Car wasnt too bad in the early stages i managed to pull away from my fellow merc drivers but there was nothing i could do about the alfas lol so i just sat in 3rd for a while and slowly watched the yellow car of stans in my mirrors get bigger and bigger and more and more sideways haha was pretty cool to watch Stan give that merc a good thrashing as i just managed to keep my merc and its shot tyres in front!

Race 2: Reloaded my original merc setup that had less front camber and higher tyre pressures and it was much better this race, managed a few 12's in the race but still not enough for the alfas :( although by the end i did taste some blood and nearly got wobbly for 2nd but just didnt have enough tyre on the last lap to have a proper go but it was a nice close battle there on the last few laps.

Race 3: Got done by those bloody ferraris off the line lol and i knew they would be hard to pass once in front so i quickly rounded Wally up into t2 and then got right behind martys ferrari where i would become well accustomed too the rest of the race lol (if anyone needs to know the badge placement on a 458 to the nearest mm im your man). It was a good 3 car battle though that worked up a solid sweat, it wasnt easy trying to attack Marty and defend Stan at the same time but good fun :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: mooface on March 25, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
I always race in socks.

This must be the solution to the heal and toe issues im having  ;D

Although i was at the end of the pack, it was still fun, mainly because there was no1 to hit and just cruise around while i learnt to be consistent with the BMW E30 Group A.

Tried my luck with the auto downshift blipper to try and eliminate the rears locking up on entry, but that did not help at all, neither did changing the brake bias. Went in the second race with the shifter and clutch on and i was much smoother, and was finally gaining ground until i headed into a pack of 458's which resulted in some downforce affecting damage.

I kind of walked into the race without playing with any settings, but now ive got a feel of the car i'd definately be playing around with things to improve!
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on March 25, 2015, 12:56:13 PM
There is something up with the BMW now they are really crap to drive! never used to be, brave car to learn in lol
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 01:01:09 PM
I always race in socks.

I race either barefoot or in socks, or if it's not too hot then in my feelmax shoes.  They've a very thin, very flexible sole.   
I've bought them at the Helsinki airport ages ago, but they're the best for racing (at the time they just looked funky, hehe)


Joe, Freezer; all good, gents.  Just putting it out there.  You probably weren't the only ones, I seem to recall more rear-end action :)
Hell even I've nudged someone in one of the T1s as the traffic very nearly stopped - oh and another time when I had no more steering lock remaining, hehe.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
Yea my tyres were shot in r2 too Mathew I was really struggling to keep it together the last few laps glad u were too lol...re setup dunno if the guys notice but before u get on the grid it tells track grip temps etc...I think that really helped me as I tweaked my setup for more grip in the 30 secs or so before r1 r2 altho r3 had far to much grip well after the crash on lap one lol.

I'm still thinking the bonus points should be established for the drivers of non dtms what's everyone else's thoughts?
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
The bonus points idea was the original format, and I'll go back to that idea at some stage, but not this season. I want to wait until there's more AC 1.1 data on the RSR rank, now that I have the means to automatically read off the averages for each car at each track. I would base the bonus points on either the average performance over a range of tracks, or possibly even according to reach car's relative performance at each track. Needs more data first, to ensure bonuses are reasonable and fair.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on March 25, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
Sadly on around lap three or four at turn two I moved over into someone who was on the inside. I did ask on TS after the race but I'm not sure who it was. They were in a Bimmer or Merc. At the time they apologised took the blame but it was certainly my fault. My attention was on what was happening to my right and I never even looked to my rear/left. Even so, I think the whole pack must have slowed down to avoid further carnage and so it appears nobody lost out too badly.

Was me... maybe T2 is a bit tight for 3 ppl trying to squeeze in? Still apologies on my side again :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on March 25, 2015, 01:49:29 PM
Yea bonus points are a tricky thing as its very hard to say how much faster or slower some car is. Then this difference is worth how many points?

In the end its not all about winning or else everyone would have picked the same car or class at least. Having a mix of cars does spice up the racing and over time will also improve most peoples driving as they meed to learn to deal with racing amongst cars that will get their laptimes in a very different way.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: G0RGAK on March 25, 2015, 02:28:42 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)

lol,

does anyone have replays?
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)

lol,

does anyone have replays?


Sure I can send u a private link to my webcam....if you would like to please furnish me with your credit card details....I won't take a charge off it honestly....it's just to ensure you are over 18,.....honest guv. ;)

I have a lovely holiday home in Nigeria for rent if anyone's interested?
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)

lol,

does anyone have replays?


Sure I can send u a private link to my webcam....if you would like to please furnish me with your credit card details....I won't take a charge off it honestly....it's just to ensure you are over 18,.....honest guv. ;)

I have a lovely holiday home in Nigeria for rent if anyone's interested?

I'm more interested in your billionaire uncle who needs to offload wads of cash to my account...
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
OMG how did you know about that, yes we own a gold mine but we need a overseas account to clear the cheque in..I could offer a lovely never raced or rallied 458 as an incentive to gain ur PIN number and AC details....deal?
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
I'm not going to swap my F40 for a lowly 458!!
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 25, 2015, 11:34:13 PM
But it's gold plated from my fathers mine..
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Jeremy on March 27, 2015, 02:04:28 PM
Race 1: Got off the line with an awesome start which saw me go from 3rd on the grid to almost taking the lead going into T1, I settled into a nice little grove following wobblyone his car was a lot stronger on cold tyres than mine and pulled a little bit of a gap but within 4 laps i had cut that down to a few tenths and the race for the lead was on! unfortunately for me it only lasted the better part of half a lap as I made a slight error and sent the alpha side ways and onto the grass. There goes any chance of first position as wobblyone skipped a way to a nice 6sec lead and I just kept the car on the road for a solid 2nd place

Race 2: Once again nailed the start and lead into T1 but once again Wobblyone had better pace than me early on and it wasnt long until he made a bold but fair move and picked me off. Knowing it  was early days and having confidence that I will pull the gap down i just kept punching out time consistent lap times 5 laps latter i was on the back of P1 and kept pushing my car was really strong and decided to make a move and go for the lead... well the pass lasted for a while as we were side by side for a few corners I eventually came out in front and controlled the race and took my first victory.

Race 3: Well race 3 was boring haha I lead from the start, had a little bit of pressure from wobblyone until he made a mistake and spun which left me by my lonesome self. Car was a rocket and kept setting really good laps came across the line with a 15sec lead and another win.

Overall a very successful weekend for myself a second place and two wins with the bonus of two fastest laps I cant really complain, Its good to be back league racing and racing some quality drivers! See you all next Week!!
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 27, 2015, 02:13:21 PM
Yea was some great driving by you Jeremy...grats :) I enjoyed our side by side battle for the next inside line lol..wish I'd had replays...I kinda took a compromise with setup to gain early grip as the levels were down...hoping I'd pull enough of a gap in the early stages to hold on to the end...nearly worked lol.  Was struglling in later stages with over heating tyres but same as u enjoyed my return to league racing after a few years off...I'm not feeling to confident with silver stone tho...hate the place lol
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 27, 2015, 02:21:08 PM
Just a thought...what about a overall championship and a non dtm championship in one series...it's still early days and would make things more interesting for the guys in the slower cars...just a thought..opinions?
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 27, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
Just a thought...what about a overall championship and a non dtm championship in one series...it's still early days and would make things more interesting for the guys in the slower cars...just a thought..opinions?

Too complicated. If anyone feels hard done by in a slower car, they can always change at the midway point.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 27, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
True :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on March 27, 2015, 08:15:52 PM
Just a thought...what about a overall championship and a non dtm championship in one series...it's still early days and would make things more interesting for the guys in the slower cars...just a thought..opinions?

Too complicated. If anyone feels hard done by in a slower car, they can always change at the midway point.

Also if someone thinks they are getting it too easy in an Alfa they can always get themselves a slower car mid season.  ;)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 27, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
Lol...just think the speed difference is a little unfair I'll shut up now sorry
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Shameless_1 on March 28, 2015, 06:57:13 PM
i have all 3 replays in ultra and if I can muster enough concentration I'll try and making 3 race vids, no promises.. will see how I go.  Been many many years since I made any.

thanks for a good start the season Wally and others.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 28, 2015, 07:08:38 PM
Nice one Dezza :)
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 28, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
i have all 3 replays in ultra and if I can muster enough concentration I'll try and making 3 race vids, no promises.. will see how I go.  Been many many years since I made any.

thanks for a good start the season Wally and others.

That would be great. I'd love to see some highlights videos. It's good promotional material too.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 28, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
Yes great idea...I think race department used to run a race highlights video with commentary like the real thing...always thought that was awesome to watch.
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on March 29, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)
Wobblyone, do you remember Glen73?  I think you do.... you both race in the same apparel, ask BJSRacer!
 
Title: Re: S6R1: Nurburgring Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on March 29, 2015, 05:28:33 PM
Naked and bare foot here..but I do live in the bush and talk to myself quite often ;)
Wobblyone, do you remember Glen73?  I think you do.... you both race in the same apparel, ask BJSRacer!

Ha ha yes I remember...u didn't used to be in SJ did u flat top?
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