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Title: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 28, 2015, 11:27:00 PM
Yes, I'm switching from Pukekohe to Barbagallo. Pukekohe only has 21 pit boxes. I was gambling on numbers dropping off by the end of the season, but we have a full grid. In fact, with Barbagallo having 30 pit boxes, we can fit everyone in.

3 x 15 lap races.

BARBAGALLO DOWNLOAD (http://simhqmotorsports.com/downloads/motorsports/assettocorsa/tracks/barbagallo-release-v1.2.rar)

This is the grid:

Bacchulum
Bafs17
Dick Forrest
Freezer
G0rgak
Gratulin
Grubbet
Guybrush Threepwood
Jeremy
Joe
Krahl
Marty
Matthew111
Perch
Pete
RJM
Rob
Rolz
Shameless
Simone
StanDaam
UnFknBLievable
Vipergod
Wally
Whitemoo
Wobblyone
Ysu
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 28, 2015, 11:44:24 PM
Would be nice to get a large grid here, this will be a busy track but probably one of the best mod tracks I think. Being such a short lap the Alfas may be lapping us around here.  ;D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 29, 2015, 08:22:36 AM
May I take an alfa (thanks Marty
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Perch on April 29, 2015, 10:16:43 PM
How many laps for the races, Wally? :)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 29, 2015, 10:20:46 PM
May I take an alfa (thanks Marty

Wise choice I just ran some laps and even though the 458 is great fun around here its 2.3 seconds a lap slower over a 1 minute lap.

Was on the practice server with Krahl and we were very close in the 458 and KTM with me edging him by .04 I think, I ran some laps in the Alfa which is great fun here too but so much grip in comparison the others wont stand a chance again.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 29, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
How many laps for the races, Wally? :)

15 laps.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 30, 2015, 08:52:29 AM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 30, 2015, 09:15:16 AM
Looking at the entry list Dick I think your needing 23 no shows.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 30, 2015, 09:17:14 AM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Head out on the weekend and 'walk the track' to get an 'edge' on the rest!

I have looked at the listing of GB's setups but there isn't one for the Alfa, could some one point me in the right direction or attach on here pls?
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 30, 2015, 09:21:45 AM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Head out on the weekend and 'walk the track' to get an 'edge' on the rest!

This weekend might not be a good idea. I'll get skittled by a bunch of angry V8s
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 30, 2015, 11:46:55 AM
I can imagine Dick turn up to Barbagallo on his pink harley, do the grid walk with a hello kitty backpack full of kitty stickers trying to stick them on all the v8's.  ;D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2015, 11:50:26 AM
I can imagine Dick turn up to Barbagallo on his pink harley, do the grid walk with a hello kitty backpack full of kitty stickers trying to stick them on all the v8's.  ;D
He'd quickly become a celebrity that way :D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 30, 2015, 12:25:25 PM
I can imagine Dick turn up to Barbagallo on his pink harley, do the grid walk with a hello kitty backpack full of kitty stickers trying to stick them on all the v8's.  ;D

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no wait... this is me


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/abYq785sNKlBqRB39ZXUZTmkFGLCXc3C-UI7-0V4DxvKw1U5Ri0CcygdVNb3jq8Lk5Zjzyr9hOtMtKUDJBxLNWIwrZbKIv-Yfc_qb8rJ8-imKA=w373-h394-nc)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2015, 12:31:47 PM
awesome! :D
Title: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 30, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Head out on the weekend and 'walk the track' to get an 'edge' on the rest!

I have looked at the listing of GB's setups but there isn't one for the Alfa, could some one point me in the right direction or attach on here pls?
No setup has been shared for the Alfa. I'm just running default and play with the tire pressures, brake bias and aero a bit. I'm not quick but about where I would expect to be relative to Jeremy and Perch ie about a couple of seconds off their pace. Biggest issue with the Alfa is getting the brake balance right - some tracks it has been good others have been terrible. Getting the frontend to turn in is also a challenge but I have finally found that slow in and hit the power very early works due to 4 wheel drive.

There! Some advice from someone who got 6 point last Tuesday...
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 30, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
6 point is good! Thanks Gratulin, will practice with your setup tips.  8)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 30, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Head out on the weekend and 'walk the track' to get an 'edge' on the rest!

I have looked at the listing of GB's setups but there isn't one for the Alfa, could some one point me in the right direction or attach on here pls?
No setup has been shared for the Alfa. I'm just running default and play with the tire pressures, brake bias and aero a bit. I'm not quick but about where I would expect to be relative to Jeremy and Perch ie about a couple of seconds off their pace. Biggest issue with the Alfa is getting the brake balance right - some tracks it has been good others have been terrible. Getting the frontend to turn in is also a challenge but I have finally found that slow in and hit the power very early works due to 4 wheel drive.

There! Some advice from someone who got 6 point last Tuesday...

Im not an Alfa driver and didnt really want to help them out but have realized there is no hope anyway.  ;) Here is a setup I made for Barbagallo only ran a few laps but it did feel fairly nice and was quicker then other times on RSR atm or at least was yesterday.

Time was a 59.352

Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 30, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
This is my home track. Just around the corner.
So i should be a natural at this track. I can sense a podium.....


If about 20 of you don't show up.
Head out on the weekend and 'walk the track' to get an 'edge' on the rest!

I have looked at the listing of GB's setups but there isn't one for the Alfa, could some one point me in the right direction or attach on here pls?
No setup has been shared for the Alfa. I'm just running default and play with the tire pressures, brake bias and aero a bit. I'm not quick but about where I would expect to be relative to Jeremy and Perch ie about a couple of seconds off their pace. Biggest issue with the Alfa is getting the brake balance right - some tracks it has been good others have been terrible. Getting the frontend to turn in is also a challenge but I have finally found that slow in and hit the power very early works due to 4 wheel drive.

There! Some advice from someone who got 6 point last Tuesday...

Im not an Alfa driver and didnt really want to help them out but have realized there is no hope anyway.  ;) Here is a setup I made for Barbagallo only ran a few laps but it did feel fairly nice and was quicker then other times on RSR atm or at least was yesterday.

Time was a 59.352
I don't think Jeremy can get any quicker can he????
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 30, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
thanks Marty.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: G0RGAK on May 01, 2015, 12:21:35 AM
Hey wally, if its a 30 grid race put me in, i'll take the merc, or bmw if u want to mix up the grid, not sure what people are using.
Thanks
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 01, 2015, 07:08:28 AM
Hey wally, if its a 30 grid race put me in, i'll take the merc, or bmw if u want to mix up the grid, not sure what people are using.
Thanks

OK, I'll put you in the Merc.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Jeremy on May 01, 2015, 08:58:59 AM
If you guys would like my set up I would be more than happy to pass it on its a tricky car to set up initally but once you have the basic set up each round just needs a tweak.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on May 01, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
Hey do we have tracker stats running for the practice server?

I wouldn't mind seeing how we all fair over the weekend...

Or at least how I fair against the lot of you...  :P

Done a few laps this morning tuning the Merc, I did 5 laps and the mediums seems to be more happy here.
Will have to test 15 laps in anger and see how they hold up.

Brilliant little track, I think we might have some good battles with so many on the track racing  ;D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 01, 2015, 01:11:56 PM
Hey do we have tracker stats running for the practice server?

I wouldn't mind seeing how we all fair over the weekend...

Or at least how I fair against the lot of you...  :P

Done a few laps this morning tuning the Merc, I did 5 laps and the mediums seems to be more happy here.
Will have to test 15 laps in anger and see how they hold up.

Brilliant little track, I think we might have some good battles with so many on the track racing  ;D

It's supposed to be, but I think the server's been a bit flaky and might need a reboot.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 01, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Hey do we have tracker stats running for the practice server?

I wouldn't mind seeing how we all fair over the weekend...

Or at least how I fair against the lot of you...  :P

This link should show you all the practice server stats.
http://52.64.7.168:8080/lapstat?track=barbagallo&cars=bmw_m3_e30_dtm,ferrari_458,ferrari_f40,ks_alfa_romeo_155_v6,ks_mercedes_190_evo2,ktm_xbow_r&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=

You can get thisningame too if running ptracker by double clicking the small app and opening the large window. To gonback to the small app just click the top left of the bigger ptracker window.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on May 01, 2015, 06:19:05 PM

If you guys would like my set up I would be more than happy to pass it on its a tricky car to set up initally but once you have the basic set up each round just needs a tweak.
Would be really good to see what difference it makes. I think it's mostly driver ability though.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 01, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
Yeah, over the years I don't feel like I've really benefited a great deal from other people's setups. You're better off getting a basically good setup for you and then learning to drive to that setup.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 01, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
Yeah, over the years I don't feel like I've really benefited a great deal from other people's setups. You're better off getting a basically good setup for you and then learning to drive to that setup.

Could always ask someone what to change to make the car do what you want it to.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 01, 2015, 08:24:23 PM
Yeah, over the years I don't feel like I've really benefited a great deal from other people's setups. You're better off getting a basically good setup for you and then learning to drive to that setup.

Could always ask someone what to change to make the car do what you want it to.

I want to know what to change to make it go faster than yours.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on May 01, 2015, 08:32:35 PM
Yeah, over the years I don't feel like I've really benefited a great deal from other people's setups. You're better off getting a basically good setup for you and then learning to drive to that setup.

Could always ask someone what to change to make the car do what you want it to.

I want to know what to change to make it go faster than yours.

+1  :P
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 01, 2015, 08:42:12 PM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.

What Gaybrush is saying is he wants us to know what we'd like the car to do so he can make the changes. I dont really think I can get mine to go faster then his but im sure he can make his go slower. I could even do the setup for him and make these changes fairly easily.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 01, 2015, 08:49:38 PM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.


Are.... are you offering??
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 01, 2015, 09:46:03 PM
You dont need me Dick you could pretty much find an improvement with any random off the street.  ;D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 02, 2015, 12:51:21 AM
He did beat you in the recent season that was run though Marty...
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 02, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
He did beat you in the recent season that was run though Marty...

I think we tied and I ran less then half the races, but fair enough he did beat me in the race he wrecked me and most of the ones I didnt start.  ;)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 02, 2015, 07:16:25 AM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.

What Gaybrush is saying is he wants us to know what we'd like the car to do so he can make the changes. I dont really think I can get mine to go faster then his but im sure he can make his go slower. I could even do the setup for him and make these changes fairly easily.

I think more of my own speed increase would come from better exit from the corners, so being able to get the power down earlier without understeer would be helpful.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 02, 2015, 07:24:27 AM
You dont need me Dick you could pretty much find an improvement with any random off the street.  ;D

Nice one Marty... I'll take it.. I have got nothing.  ;)

He did beat you in the recent season that was run though Marty...

Thanks Guybrush.  A win is a win.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 02, 2015, 07:31:36 AM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.

What Gaybrush is saying is he wants us to know what we'd like the car to do so he can make the changes. I dont really think I can get mine to go faster then his but im sure he can make his go slower. I could even do the setup for him and make these changes fairly easily.

I think more of my own speed increase would come from better exit from the corners, so being able to get the power down earlier without understeer would be helpful.

You are all aliens to me. All so smooth in and out of corners. I find I do learn a bit and get a bit faster trying to hang off the back of you guys but it's defiantly noticeable that late breaking = slow exit, wrong apex = slow exit, no breaking = no exit.
Exit speed. that's where it is at.
and break markers. I sometimes can go a whole race without even looking for one. "i'll just break somewhere here" Which is bad but that's my level of concentration at times.

I'm still breaking PB's nearly every 2-3 laps in races.... Give me another 6-7 years I might be slightly competitive.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 02, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.

What Gaybrush is saying is he wants us to know what we'd like the car to do so he can make the changes. I dont really think I can get mine to go faster then his but im sure he can make his go slower. I could even do the setup for him and make these changes fairly easily.

I think more of my own speed increase would come from better exit from the corners, so being able to get the power down earlier without understeer would be helpful.

Depends on the car,  but generally for UNDERSTEER out of a corner I'd be decreasing the front rebound damper, decreasing front ARB and spring stiffness, increasing rear ARB + spring, creating more rake on the car so front is lower than rear (spring height), more front negative camber and more neutral front toe while more negative rear toe.

 Of course these things have all other side effects which ultimately either make the car slower to turn in and change direction or make the rear end more Unstable.

I think the key is to make gradual changes as you learn where being just below the limit of the car is.  If it's a new car or track it's hard just to load straight up a "fast" set up which is Unstable as you haven't had the time to understand the limits and acclimatise to the instability.  I know I used to load set ups that would be far too unstable for me initially.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 02, 2015, 08:43:37 AM
Dick the biggest change youd need is to find a better driver. Having seen you drive I think that would be the best way to improve your cars speed I think.

What Gaybrush is saying is he wants us to know what we'd like the car to do so he can make the changes. I dont really think I can get mine to go faster then his but im sure he can make his go slower. I could even do the setup for him and make these changes fairly easily.



I think more of my own speed increase would come from better exit from the corners, so being able to get the power down earlier without understeer would be helpful.

You are all aliens to me. All so smooth in and out of corners. I find I do learn a bit and get a bit faster trying to hang off the back of you guys but it's defiantly noticeable that late breaking = slow exit, wrong apex = slow exit, no breaking = no exit.
Exit speed. that's where it is at.
and break markers. I sometimes can go a whole race without even looking for one. "i'll just break somewhere here" Which is bad but that's my level of concentration at times.

I'm still breaking PB's nearly every 2-3 laps in races.... Give me another 6-7 years I might be slightly competitive.

Understand the quickest way around and then mechanise it using reference points for everything you do - braking, turn in, throttle on, etc.  I think sometimes the difference in pace is just being methodical and precise once you have found the best way around.  You'll get there Dick.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on May 02, 2015, 09:28:11 AM
"just being methodical and precise once you have found the best way around" is the best advice. I know I am most 'relaxed' at Mugello because I have done most laps there learning every corner. Perversely this is because I really struggled with this track early on and had to practise against the AI in the E30 to even stay on the track. Ended up being my favourite track because of the laps I've done. When I follow the faster guys (briefly when they spin off and come back past me!) they are very 'repeatable' and smooth in every corner. I am still a bit different every time and so lose time by a thousand cuts.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 02, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
Yes the repeatable part is the key and thats what seperates most people. This is also where you need to either take more risk or back off a little but then the better driver will normally be even more precise so what may be more risk for you they can do quite easily. The real aliens can come pretty close to the cars grip limits which not many can do every corner of every lap so the very quick guys are just basically hitting closer to the ideal line closer to the limit.

Its really good to see in the league the standards of driving are getting quite good through the field. Following others that are quicker then you is one of the better ways to see how its done and what you need to change to improve.

Setup wise its a tricky thing and best to learn yourself then take others sets. For me mostly using others setups doesnt work but if im a long way off the pace. Seeing what someone else is doing can give me an idea. Lots of times its more to do with driver then setup and you want a setup that feels good to you. It needs to give you confidence so no point trying someones setup that likes a very different car feel as you will oikely struggle. In a car you havent driven k uch jowever it can be helpful to get someones setup to start with as a base rather then the ingame defaults which normally may need a fair bit more work.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on May 02, 2015, 11:51:06 AM
Setup wise its a tricky thing and best to learn yourself then take others sets. For me mostly using others setups doesnt work but if im a long way off the pace. Seeing what someone else is doing can give me an idea. Lots of times its more to do with driver then setup and you want a setup that feels good to you. It needs to give you confidence so no point trying someones setup that likes a very different car feel as you will oikely struggle. In a car you havent driven k uch jowever it can be helpful to get someones setup to start with as a base rather then the ingame defaults which normally may need a fair bit more work.

Pretty well this season have I started to really get into setups... as everyone says do one change do a few laps and see if it helps or not, revert and then try something else... getting a good base down that works for you in a car has helped heaps for me.

That first race in the Merc I spent ages on the setup, but I knew it still needed something, but I don't know what... This was when I got one of the other guys Merc setups and compared (notepadd++ has an awesome compare plugin).  We were similar, but in the end it was a few extra clicks to increase rear caber that ended up being kicker and I took .5 off my PB straight up...

Time in car and on track is the big one, I'm fortunate where my fiance lets me spend a few hours on the weekend practicing (as long as my chores are done :P) plus it gives her some time to read her Trash mags and watch her series that I organise for her. ;)

Check out "Race track engineer - interactive setup guide" I just shared excel last time... it might be simples for some, but for me it's been such a massive help to understand what potentially gets impacted... I'm only really a racer since AC has been out so there has been that black magic voodoo in car setups until recently.  ;D

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/race-track-engineer-interactive-setup-guide.20473/

Will be online after my Saturday chores so if anyone else is on I'll cya then  ;D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on May 02, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
You learn something new every day with car setups lol there is just so many aspects to it, certain parts playing off other parts etc Im far from being a car setup master I just try and make the car safe and stable so I can drive the wheels off it lol and most people that I lend my car too often say it isn't that quick just comfortable so ah well lol. Everybody is different in the end so what works for 1 person wont work for the next which the beauty of it all really but in saying that you can try my spa set rolz I think it worked well last race made a few different changes to it from my usual merc setup, if it will work at perth who knows lol
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 03, 2015, 12:24:17 AM
Just wondering with this track, the last turn exit is pretty dodgy to run outside the kerb and quite a bit faster. This part of track isnt marked as invalid but I think if everyone goes that line it makes a bit of a joke of the turn. I wonder what Wally's call will be on using this, I know if you make a mistake then it should be ok to use it but if someone plans for it they can carry much more speed run very wide and gain a huge advantage.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 03, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
As usual you all offer great advice. Even Marty.
Car set ups though... This is where I am obviously a very casual gamer... I don't really have an interest in how they work. I've tried. I honestly don't know what they do. The hover over text mean nothing to me. I don't notice subtle changes, I don't know what I want to change cause I don't know what is going wrong. I always put it down to my bad driving. When you see me sitting in the pits I'm not adjusting anything, I'm AFK.  so default set-ups have to do me. Or if I can find one to download. If I don't like it I go back to default. If i find one i like, i'll use it for every track. If I do adjust anything it's adding down force.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 03, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
Just wondering with this track, the last turn exit is pretty dodgy to run outside the kerb and quite a bit faster. This part of track isnt marked as invalid but I think if everyone goes that line it makes a bit of a joke of the turn. I wonder what Wally's call will be on using this, I know if you make a mistake then it should be ok to use it but if someone plans for it they can carry much more speed run very wide and gain a huge advantage.

I was about to post the same thing as I noticed this also when running the beamers last night.  I obviously wasn't exploring all the lines of the track when Rolz and I had a practice for Tuesday!

I think it's going to be too difficult to monitor.  Who is to say someone doesn't make a "mistake" during qual on one lap and who is going to check.  Maybe if you accidentally go wide you have to lift off or something and make that lap slower.  I dunno, but I think Wally needs to make a call as there is around another 2 tenths there.

The only solution I see is if the track maker changes the allowed boundaries before Tuesday!
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 03, 2015, 09:05:36 AM
Just wondering wit4 this track, the last turn exit is pretty dodgy to run outside the kerb and quite a bit faster. This part of track isnt marked as invalid but I think if everyone goes that line it makes a bit of a joke of the turn. I wonder what Wally's call will be on using this, I know if you make a mistake then it should be ok to use it but if someone plans for it they can carry much more speed run very wide and gain a huge advantage.

You should try to stay within the track limits and keep your two right wheels inside the white line at the final turn.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on May 04, 2015, 02:54:35 PM
Sorry to all those who were looking forward to racing with me at Barbagallo, (or not :) ) but I have a car club meeting that slipped my (at the time),  jet-lagged mind.

Sorry to miss this big event.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 04, 2015, 08:22:06 PM
Sorry to all those who were looking forward to racing with me at Barbagallo, (or not :) ) but I have a car club meeting that slipped my (at the time),  jet-lagged mind.

Sorry to miss this big event.

OK, thanks Flattop.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 04, 2015, 10:10:28 PM
Do I have the honour of being the first person to be black-listed from an XGN server?
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 04, 2015, 10:13:47 PM
Do I have the honour of being the first person to be black-listed from an XGN server?
Yep.

What's up? I've just got the same old blacklist on the practice server. Can't you join?
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on May 04, 2015, 10:15:35 PM
Do I have the honour of being the first person to be black-listed from an XGN server?

The way GB was going wide all night on the last corner... I'm not surprised  :P
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 04, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
Do I have the honour of being the first person to be black-listed from an XGN server?
Yep.

What's up? I've just got the same old blacklist on the practice server. Can't you join?

I think Marty was abusing his server rights.  Little does he know what I've got in store for him tomorrow night.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 04, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
Do I have the honour of being the first person to be black-listed from an XGN server?
Yep.

What's up? I've just got the same old blacklist on the practice server. Can't you join?

I think Marty was abusing his server rights.  Little does he know what I've got in store for him tomorrow night.

GB may have been accidentally kicked for abusing his driving privileges, I think it may have been an auto kick for driving backwards up the track last lap. I think I have a replay of the incident it was quite funny.
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on May 04, 2015, 11:29:13 PM
Good fun on the practice server the last couple of nights. Since yesterday I've switched to using cockpit view and changed the FOV and found it's helped me get quicker as seems you can feel what the car is doing better.

Was about to call it a night tonight, but then did a PB of 1:01.54. Unfortunately RSR has been shit recently and didn't record it, but either way I'd have stayed in 3rd behind Marty and Stan.

Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on May 05, 2015, 06:45:35 AM
Good fun on the practice server the last couple of nights. Since yesterday I've switched to using cockpit view and changed the FOV and found it's helped me get quicker as seems you can feel what the car is doing better.

Was about to call it a night tonight, but then did a PB of 1:01.54. Unfortunately RSR has been shit recently and didn't record it, but either way I'd have stayed in 3rd behind Marty and Stan.

I've given up on RSR and online servers... only now works single player and I always seem to get better times online chasing GB or Marty  ::)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on May 05, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: G0RGAK on May 05, 2015, 10:06:42 PM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag

Tuesday nights just unplug all the other people's in the house internet including wi-fi, if they don't like it, get them to pay the bill  :D

As far as tonight's races go, it was good, spun in all 3 races, but i'm used to that.
Still about a second or two off the pace, dunno what to do about it, maybe a new wheel/pedals (i'm using df-gt), or maybe i'm just not as good as i think i am.  :P
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on May 06, 2015, 08:25:01 AM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag
QOS!!! Release the router guru within!!  :D
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 06, 2015, 08:41:11 AM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag

As long as you take out a different car each week you should keep at it. And as long as those different cars are marty's or Guybrush and now, Jeremy.

Grubbet has been using flaky pings for a few seasons now to his advantage. It's all deliberately done btw...  ;)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on May 06, 2015, 08:15:21 PM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag

As long as you take out a different car each week you should keep at it. And as long as those different cars are marty's or Guybrush and now, Jeremy.

Grubbet has been using flaky pings for a few seasons now to his advantage. It's all deliberately done btw...  ;)

Thanks Dick,  I will do my best :)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on May 06, 2015, 08:22:40 PM
I give up  kids are never gonna let me have one night a week to race, been  the same every season I have raced, so its not going to change , its not fun anymore not knowing when you are going to take cars out every week, but knowing you probably will at some point due to lag
QOS!!! Release the router guru within!!  :D

yeah I think its time I learnt a bit of networking ,  QOS only works on the upstream on my router, My other router does IP bandwidth throttling qos, which when i figure out the computers that use netflixx are going to be sooooo lagggy and buffering it wont be funny to anyone but me :) but its all beyond me atm this ip address reservation and things, have some learning to do,  or i need to get a new one that can take a dd-wrt firmware and still have even more learning to do
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on May 07, 2015, 09:11:55 AM
One fairly simple solution is to put your computer on fixed IP, then you know the one that needs priority - the rest can be throttled. :)
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on May 07, 2015, 11:40:03 AM
One fairly simple solution is to put your computer on fixed IP, then you know the one that needs priority - the rest can be throttled. :)

Please bird teach me how
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on May 07, 2015, 12:56:59 PM
On your computer, go to networking config, IPv4 config, set a static IP (and the netmask, and the gateway) and you're done.
You can check the result in the router, too.
You might want to change the DHCP range in your router so you can have a small "fixed" range without conficts.

Eg my DHCP range is 10.0.0.200 to 10.0.0.254, and my fixed addresses for server & computer are .10 and .20.


I need to use the 10.x range as my setup is like this:
ISP - Modem - Router - devices
The modem is using the 192.168.x.x range, and the 10.x.x.x is used "internally".

You probably will use the 192.168.x.x range, so your gateway (the router/modem) is likely to be on 192.168.1.1 and the netmask will probably be 255.255.0.0.    (altho it can be set to 255.255.255.0 as well, check the current router setup)

I think this is it...altho I'm no network expert, so if I said something stupid, can someone correct me please?
Title: Re: S6R6: BARBAGALLO Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on May 07, 2015, 01:52:43 PM
Some routers have the option to always assign a certain device the same IP, my NetGear does. Somewhere in the admin is a list of connected devices with a button to force the same IP.
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