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Title: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
This season is based on the 2015 Australian GT3 regulations (http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/SportingRegulations/2015/2015%20CAMS%20Australian%20GT%20Championship%20Sporting%20and%20Technical%20Regulations%20-Version%203.pdf).

Season starts Jan 26.

Interesting changes in red.

Cars
Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
BMW Z4 GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3
SCG 003C
McLaren 650S GT3

Round Formats
Format 1: 1 hour race, 2.5 x fuel and 3 x tyres.
2 compulsory pit stops. Pit stop window for compulsory pit stops is between lap 6 and 23.

Format 2: 2 x 30 min race, 1.5 x fuel and 2 x tyres.
1 compulsory pit stop, optional tyre change only allowed (no refuelling allowed).
Progressive grid: Race 2 start order set by race 1 finish order.

Season Schedule
R1. Jan 26. Silverstone. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R2. Feb 2. Imola. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R3. Feb 9. Brands Hatch GP. 2 x 21 laps (format 2).
R4. Feb 16. Mugello. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).
-- optional car swap --
R5. Feb 23. Monza. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R6. Mar 1. Nurburgring GP. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R7. Mar 8. Spa. 2 x 13 laps (format 2).
R8. Mar 15. Barcelona GP. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).

Points
Qualifying:
Top 10 qualifiers get points: 15,12,10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1

Format 1:
Points awarded according to positions at the end of lap 14 ("points shall be awarded to each automobile that crosses the Control Line after the leader completes x laps"):
50,42,35,30,25,20,18,16,14,12,10...1
Points awarded also at race finish:
100,84,70,60,50,40,36,32,28,24,20,18,16,14,12,10,8,6,4,1

Format 2:
Points awarded at race finish:
75,63,53,45,38,30,27,24,21,18,15,14,12,11,9,8,6,5,3,1

Penalties
I'll check opening lap T1 & 2 incidents as usual. If you want to report other incidents you want looked at, PM me the race, lap and drivers involved. Penalty will be 8 points for the infringer, and an 8 point bonus for the victim (double in longer format 1 races).

Failure to perform a compulsory pit stop, or a breach of refuelling restrictions, will result in a DQ for that race.

Weather
Races are at 11am and 2pm, or 1pm for a single race. Weather is based on the dates of the 2015 International GT3 Open (northern hemisphere), and from the real historical weather on those dates.

R1. Silverstone. 12 Light Fog. 15 Light Clouds.
R2. Imola. 12 Light Clouds. 14 Light Clouds.
R3. Brands Hatch. 25 Clear. 24 Clear.
R4. Mugello. 34 Clear.
R5. Monza. 17 Mid Clear. 19 Light Clouds.
R6. Nurburgring. 10 Clear. 14 Clear.
R7. Spa. 11 Clear. 12 Clear.
R8. Barcelona. 18 Clear.

Sign Up
1. Wally - Nissan
2. Rolz - Audi (Factory White)
3. Bacchulum - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
4. Marty - McLaren 650 (Attempto_54)
5. Simone - BMW
6. Christopheraser - BMW Z4, #83 Martini
7. Guybrush - Lambo (black)
8. StanDaam - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
9. Phil.8 - SCG 003C (0_mimetic )
10. Matthew111 - Merc SLS
11. Gratulin - BMW Z4
12. Grat - SCG 003C
13. Will - Audi
14. Jeremy - Merc SLS
15. Bafs17 - BMW Z4
16. Grubbet - Audi, Nissan, Mclaren
17. Freezer - BMW Z4
18. AJ - Audi, Mercedes, BMW
19. Ysu - Nissan
20. DaveO - Mclaren 650 S GT3
21. Fozzy - BMW, Nissan, Audi
22. Doobs - McLaren 650S GT3
23. Joe - Audi
24. Rob - Merc AMG SLS
25. Flattop - BMW Z4 GT3
26. Mael - Nissan
27. Jake (Flanders) - BMW Z4
28. Paul - Lamborghini Huracan GT3
29. Chap - Audi R8
30. Ben - Audi
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: Rolz on November 22, 2015, 11:10:50 AM
Preferences

Nissan GT-R GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 11:12:40 AM
Preferences

Nissan GT-R GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
McLaren MP4-12C GT3

OK, might as well take sign ups :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: Rolz on November 22, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
OK, might as well take sign ups :)

Well you started it  ;)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 22, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
Another GT season?...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
Another GT season?...
Yes.
Take your pick: Another Lotus season? Another open wheeler season? Another hypercar season? Another DTM season?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 22, 2015, 11:28:56 AM
We seem to have a lot of other cars we haven't done yet...

RUF's, Toyota's, Beamers, little FWD's, Lambo, GT40, etc?  Just a thought.  It does seem AC in general has a preoccupation with GT's - it feels like half the cars are GT's of some type so difficult to mix it up.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 11:37:45 AM
There's a 3 week F40/RUF/GT40 mini-series planned for late Dec/early Jan: http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1227.0
The last GT season (over a year ago), was a mix of GT2/GT3 and other assorted cars. This one will be a pure GT3 season.

Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bacchulum on November 22, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
Audi, Dato, Macca. ;)
not that I've tried any
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations
Post by: marty on November 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
Another GT season?...

We haven't ever had a proper GT season, and its not cars I have really driven that much of. Will be nice to have a no ballast run in a mix of these cars and likely larger full grids most rounds. Good to see it has been delayed a bit and I should be home unless I end up staying in Asia a bit longer but I suspect after Jan I should be home for a few months other then my snow trip at some point in our later summer.

At some point there is meant to be the Abarth cup car released which will be fun for a single class FWD season. Also more cars released into the year along with likely Brands hatch and possibly some more tracks by then.

I will sign up for the season, cars preference Merc SLS, Audi R8, Mp4 12C or 650s gt3 if we have it by then which would maybe make it my preferred car. :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Simone on November 22, 2015, 12:48:29 PM
It will be fun!!

BMW Z4 GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: christopheraser on November 22, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
Looks interesting. I like the fact you have gone with longer races. Would be great to see a 90 minute race or two in there.

BMW, Audi, Lambo
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 01:10:54 PM
And by the way, here's the current relative average car performances from the RSR rank:

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/

126.269,Lamborghini Huracan GT3,263
126.672,Audi R8 LMS Ultra,299
126.745,BMW Z4 GT3,242
126.793,Nissan GT-R GT3,185
127.783,McLaren MP4-12C GT3,258
128.124,Mercedes SLS AMG GT3,118
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on November 22, 2015, 01:27:26 PM
One thing Im not a huge fan of is the higher tyre wear. Gt3 cars have a few tyres but with the higher wear its just limiting choice where at regular wear with a few stops people can experiment with a few different compounds.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 22, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
Last season was the GTC/GX which may as well be GT's.

I haven't driven much of the Lambo or Audi so I'll go for:

Lambo
Audi
Nissan
Merc

But any of them will be fine.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on November 22, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
Yes please for me Mr Wally  ;D ;D ;D
Yee fekkin haaaar!!!
GT3's are the best EVA!!!
Haven't decided which cars yet, surely that's worth a night of the test drivings!!  :-X :-* :-X
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Phil.8 on November 22, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Nissan GT-R GT3
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 05:23:36 PM
One thing Im not a huge fan of is the higher tyre wear. Gt3 cars have a few tyres but with the higher wear its just limiting choice where at regular wear with a few stops people can experiment with a few different compounds.

The long races in the GT3 series are 3 hours long. Since we're compressing 3 hours into 1 hour, that's 3x fuel and tyres.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Matthew111 on November 22, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
yay gt3!! since theres a cps i think we should leave the fuel and tyre multiplier at a normal rate to make it interesting? I like the 2 race format.

How about gt3 camaro? matches up well to the official cars
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Gratulin on November 22, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
Lamborghini, BMW, Audi
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: grat on November 22, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
I'll be back then and therefore I am definitely in!

If you are already taking the preferences, I guess mine would be BMW, McLaren, Audi.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 07:47:08 PM
yay gt3!! since theres a cps i think we should leave the fuel and tyre multiplier at a normal rate to make it interesting? I like the 2 race format.

How about gt3 camaro? matches up well to the official cars
I want to stick with official content. There's already quite a few cars to choose from.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on November 22, 2015, 09:51:16 PM
One thing Im not a huge fan of is the higher tyre wear. Gt3 cars have a few tyres but with the higher wear its just limiting choice where at regular wear with a few stops people can experiment with a few different compounds.

The long races in the GT3 series are 3 hours long. Since we're compressing 3 hours into 1 hour, that's 3x fuel and tyres.

The long races are actually 12hrs as in the Bathurst 12hr worldwide they are 24hr and even a 32hr race.

Id prefer longer races maybe 90 minutes but regular fuel and wear as the exaggerated fuel and especially wear just makes it less simulating the real thing. You dont see them putting holes in the fuel tank and running extra crappy tyres in the 1hr races in blancpain or any other real gt series.  ;)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 22, 2015, 11:05:56 PM
The long races in the Australian GT3 series are 101 laps (or last year, 3 hours). The Bathurst 12H isn't a race of the GT series. It's a separate event.  This is the Australian GT3 series, as the title says, not worldwide.

If you run a 3 hour race in 1 hour, that's the equivalent of 3x fuel and tyres, exactly simulating the amount of real wear and fuel usage. Case closed.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on November 23, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
Even an hour race would be epic... last time we came close was about 55min on the Nordschleife Endurance  ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 23, 2015, 07:55:27 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing a few (probably 2) 90 min races either. I love long races that become a mental battle with yourself. I'll see if the finish time suits people.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on November 23, 2015, 07:59:48 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing a few (probably 2) 90 min races either. I love long races that become a mental battle with yourself. I'll see if the finish time suits people.

Quite a few will be finished well before the 90 minutes anyway. And the way AC has been crashing on me the last week I need a 3hr race compressed into about 5 minutes.  :'(

I hope when I get home in a couple weeks it sorts itself out somehow but I will look at some upgrades as it may be hardware related rather then just win 10 latest downgrade even though it only started to crash after that latest bug w10 update.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on November 23, 2015, 09:42:51 AM
Wally, I would like to have a run in this series, the GT3 cars are at the upper end that I can get around a track :)

Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Merc
Please put me at the end of the list, allow regulars to have my spot if numbers are tight.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Freezer on November 23, 2015, 01:09:16 PM
Wally, I would like to have a run in this series, the GT3 cars are at the upper end that I can get around a track :)

Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Merc
Please put me at the end of the list, allow regulars to have my spot if numbers are tight.
Good to see you in Bruce...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on November 23, 2015, 03:33:26 PM
Wally, I would like to have a run in this series, the GT3 cars are at the upper end that I can get around a track :)

Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Merc
Please put me at the end of the list, allow regulars to have my spot if numbers are tight.
Good to see you in Bruce...
Thanks Glenn, will put some practice in, I like the longer format for the more difficult cars, plenty of time to settle in and enjoy.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Will on November 23, 2015, 04:23:39 PM
:)

Audi
Lambo
BMW
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Jeremy on November 24, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
count me in :) will have to try all the cars before I post my 3 choices
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Joe on November 24, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
Can you add me to the bottom of the list please wally. I'm keen but the little fella has been keeping me from racing the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 24, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
Done and done.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bafs17 on November 24, 2015, 07:04:55 PM
BMW
Audi
Nissan
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Grubbet on November 24, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Im in! Thanks :)

Audi, Nissan, Mclaren
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Freezer on November 24, 2015, 11:52:59 PM
I'm in....
AMENDED - Order of preference - Nissan GTR, BMW Z4, SLS AMG
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: grat on November 25, 2015, 04:42:04 AM
From the AC forum (twitter thread):

"Marco Massarutto told in a video posted by ACItaly that within this week would be released 1.3.5 with Audi R8 Plus and some features about multiplayer latency.

About half of December will be released Dream Pack 3 with Brands Hatch laser scan and 7 new cars: Lotus 25 di Jim Clark, la Lotus 72 D, la McLaren 650 GT3, la Mercedes AMG GT3, la 500 Abarth Assetto Corsa e la Ford Escord Mk.1 (I missed last one).

Before Xmas there will be a free content and on 31st DEC will be announced a new Brand license.
That's all I know till the end of the year"
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 25, 2015, 07:41:36 AM
From the AC forum (twitter thread):

"Marco Massarutto told in a video posted by ACItaly that within this week would be released 1.3.5 with Audi R8 Plus and some features about multiplayer latency.

About half of December will be released Dream Pack 3 with Brands Hatch laser scan and 7 new cars: Lotus 25 di Jim Clark, la Lotus 72 D, la McLaren 650 GT3, la Mercedes AMG GT3, la 500 Abarth Assetto Corsa e la Ford Escord Mk.1 (I missed last one).

Before Xmas there will be a free content and on 31st DEC will be announced a new Brand license.
That's all I know till the end of the year"

Excellent news, and good timing! They obviously plan their releases around our season.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on November 25, 2015, 08:01:07 AM
Ford Escord Mk.1  8)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on November 25, 2015, 08:24:05 AM
Solid choice Bruce!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Will on November 25, 2015, 02:30:18 PM
Look like they've been busy.

Looking forward to a laser scanned brands hatch!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on November 25, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
I'm looking forward to more people being online again... last week has been particularly dead... well except for League specific servers... really just 3 league servers here us, ASR and OLDer

The Aus Public Server scene is so lame compared the numbers online in Europe...  :'(
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 25, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
I've never had any issues racing the European guys though.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on November 26, 2015, 06:10:03 AM
Too many years playing FPS makes me balk at joining servers with 300+ ping   :P
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: AJ on November 27, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
Would love to join if there is space available, otherwise I don't mind, understand if I have last preference for a spot if there are too many signups.

Prefs:
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
BMW Z4 GT3
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 27, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
Would love to join if there is space available, otherwise I don't mind, understand if I have last preference for a spot if there are too many signups.

Prefs:
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
BMW Z4 GT3
It's looking OK so far. If there is overflow, we have a reserves list, and reserves usually end up getting a few races.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: AJ on November 27, 2015, 06:26:33 PM
Cool, thanks Wally
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on November 29, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
I'd like to sign up too :)

Nissan, Lambo, Audi would be my preference. 

Thanks!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 29, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
I'd like to sign up too :)

Nissan, Lambo, Audi would be my preference. 

Thanks!
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on November 29, 2015, 05:41:35 PM
Heya Bird!!  :D

After a solid night of the testings, my R&D department has decided that this is the winning combo!!!

BMW
Audi
Nissan
 :P
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Dave O on November 30, 2015, 01:20:21 PM
Would like to sign up too Wally if there's room   :)

Cheers Dave.

         McClaren
         Lambo
         BMW
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on November 30, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
Would like to sign up too Wally if there's room   :)

Cheers Dave.

         McClaren
         Lambo
         BMW

Welcome back Dave!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 01, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Wally, I would like to have a run in this series, the GT3 cars are at the upper end that I can get around a track :)

Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Merc
Please put me at the end of the list, allow regulars to have my spot if numbers are tight.
did a few laps and I would like to change if I may:
Merc
Nissan
Audi

Nice to see you back Bird and Dave.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: fozzy on December 01, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
I would absolutely love to get involved :)
Preferences
1. BMW Z4 GT3
2. Nissan GT-R GT3
3. Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Freezer on December 03, 2015, 11:43:26 PM
I'm in....
AMENDED - Order of preference - Nissan GTR, BMW Z4, SLS AMG
Hey Wally, can you update my preferences . . . they changed!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2015, 08:00:50 AM
I'm in....
AMENDED - Order of preference - Nissan GTR, BMW Z4, SLS AMG
Hey Wally, can you update my preferences . . . they changed!
Updated.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on December 15, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Wally seeing as the next dlc will have 2 more gt3 cars the amg and 650s will these be available. Also the car being run last round at Nords is technicaly a gt3 car so maybe this should also be in the list. I think it would be cool to have a nice mix of cars for this series especially seeing as its the largest field in AC with official cars in the same class.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 15, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Wally seeing as the next dlc will have 2 more gt3 cars the amg and 650s will these be available. Also the car being run last round at Nords is technicaly a gt3 car so maybe this should also be in the list. I think it would be cool to have a nice mix of cars for this series especially seeing as its the largest field in AC with official cars in the same class.

Yes, I fully intend to run the new cars too. Is the SCG003 a GT3 car? I don't think I've seen it on any of the GT3 car lists like on Wikipedia etc.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: AJ on December 15, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
It was built for the spec but isn't competing (yet at least) as it hasn't been homologated.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: grat on December 15, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Is it not homologated only because of production numbers rules? In that case we might really not care...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bacchulum on December 15, 2015, 05:37:36 PM
If it's not homologated, has it been BoPed?
If not the performance may not match the other cars. :-\
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 15, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
"SCG 003 prices start at $2.59 million for the street legal version."
I wonder why it hasn't been homologated?

Pace-wise, it fits in perfectly with the other GT3 cars. I reckon it's a goer.

126.398,Lamborghini Huracan GT3
 126.515,Audi R8 LMS Ultra
126.684,Nissan GT-R GT3
 126.860,BMW Z4 GT3
 127.144,SCG 003C
127.577,McLaren MP4-12C GT3
 128.372,Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Gratulin on December 15, 2015, 06:07:33 PM
"SCG 003 prices start at $2.59 million for the street legal version."
I wonder why it hasn't been homologated?

Pace-wise, it fits in perfectly with the other GT3 cars. I reckon it's a goer.
I can't afford that so I'll stick with my original choices :o
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: AJ on December 15, 2015, 06:08:19 PM
"SCG 003 prices start at $2.59 million for the street legal version."
I wonder why it hasn't been homologated?

Can't imagine  ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on December 15, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
"SCG 003 prices start at $2.59 million for the street legal version."
I wonder why it hasn't been homologated?

Pace-wise, it fits in perfectly with the other GT3 cars. I reckon it's a goer.
I can't afford that so I'll stick with my original choices :o

If we need to buy the cars and pay for repairs id rather race it for real.  ;)

The new class the scg003 runs in is basically a prototype within gt3 spec. I did see that they may plan to just run spx as the top class in the enduro races so there wont be any production car limits as long as cars meet the performance specs needed for the class.

Speed wise the real scg003 did 8:12 at the full 24hr nurburgring circuit which is a fairly competitive time vs the gt3 cars so it wont be the quickest but should  be able to compete. They put that as a 6:42 nordschleife time so we have a number to chase for next weeks nords run.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Freezer on December 17, 2015, 10:28:50 AM
Hey Wally, are you going to release the car allocation soon?  Going to do a skin or two...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 17, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
Hey Wally, are you going to release the car allocation soon?  Going to do a skin or two...
Well, there's so many GT3 cars to choose from now (including the SCG003C) that I reckon people can just drive what they want. I'll update the thread tonight.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 17, 2015, 01:28:17 PM
wow (ugly from the front), but the rear view is "Metropolis"!!!!

(http://www.globalmotors.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Scuderia-Cameron-Glickenhaus-SCG-003-Stradale-e1425060545121-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 17, 2015, 01:29:50 PM
Hey Wally, are you going to release the car allocation soon?  Going to do a skin or two...
Well, there's so many GT3 cars to choose from now (including the SCG003C) that I reckon people can just drive what they want. I'll update the thread tonight.
Thanks Wally, your work in inspiring...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 18, 2015, 10:04:18 PM
I've added the new GT3 cars to the first post:

Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
BMW Z4 GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3
SCG 003C
McLaren 650S GT3

There are now so many GT3's to choose from, that we might as well just choose whatever car you want for the season. We'll still get a nicely varied grid.

If you want to stick with the cars you've already chosen, fine - I'll just take the first car in your nominations.

We can swap to another car in the list half way through the season if you want to, or stay in the same car.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Phil.8 on December 18, 2015, 10:08:41 PM
If we are having one car I will go with the SCG 003C please
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 18, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
If we are having one car I will go with the SCG 003C please
Done.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on December 18, 2015, 10:52:03 PM
Can I confirm in the new year please? I'm currently torn between a few...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 19, 2015, 12:00:27 AM
Can I confirm in the new year please? I'm currently torn between a few...
Sure. No hurry.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Matthew111 on December 19, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
So much choice, joy overload lol should be a good season with these cars
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 19, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
I've added the season schedule to the first post:

Season Schedule
R1. Jan 26. Silverstone. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R2. Feb 2. Imola. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R3. Feb 9. Brands Hatch GP. 2 x 21 laps (format 2).
R4. Feb 16. Mugello. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).
-- optional car swap --
R5. Feb 23. Monza. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R6. Mar 1. Nurburgring GP. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R7. Mar 8. Spa. 2 x 13 laps (format 2).
R8. Mar 15. Barcelona GP. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: doobs on December 19, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
Hi Wally,

Long time, no see. I've been lurking for a while.
Any chance of getting on the grid, or being a reserve for this series? I got a new video card and can finally play AC properly again.

Cheers
Darren

Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 20, 2015, 09:09:09 AM
Hi Wally,

Long time, no see. I've been lurking for a while.
Any chance of getting on the grid, or being a reserve for this series? I got a new video card and can finally play AC properly again.

Cheers
Darren
G'day Dooobs, welcome back. I've put you on the grid. Choose a car at some stage.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 20, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Nice mix in the schedule Wally... getting exciting...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: doobs on December 20, 2015, 03:00:42 PM
Hi Wally,

Long time, no see. I've been lurking for a while.
Any chance of getting on the grid, or being a reserve for this series? I got a new video card and can finally play AC properly again.

Cheers
Darren
G'day Dooobs, welcome back. I've put you on the grid. Choose a car at some stage.

Thanks Wally, I'm looking forward to it. I'll be driving a few of them and see if I can drive ANY of them.  :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: christopheraser on December 20, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
I'm going to be in Japan for the practise race and get back on the 2nd of February, so hopefully I will be able to make round one.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on December 20, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I'm going to be in Japan for the practise race and get back on the 2nd of February, so hopefully I will be able to make round one.

Take your pc Japan has some good internet. :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Freezer on December 21, 2015, 10:50:21 AM
I'm going to run with the BMW Z4 Wally now we are selecting our own.   Let the skins begin..!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: trackmeister on December 21, 2015, 11:13:37 AM
Hi Wally

Roland (Rolz) is a regular racer in your group. He has got me into online racing and very keen to signup. Any chance I could signup or be placed on reserves?

Thanks and have a great hols.

Ben


This is a write-up, for my own reference, of a season based on the 2015 Australian GT3 regulations (http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/SportingRegulations/2015/2015%20CAMS%20Australian%20GT%20Championship%20Sporting%20and%20Technical%20Regulations%20-Version%203.pdf).

Season starts Jan 26 (unless too many people have an Australia Day hangover).

Interesting changes in red.

Cars
Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
BMW Z4 GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3
SCG 003C
McLaren 650S GT3

Round Formats
Format 1: 1 hour race, 3 x fuel and tyres.
2 compulsory pit stops. Pit stop window for compulsory pit stops is between lap 6 and 23.

Format 2: 2 x 30 min race, 2 x fuel and tyres.
1 compulsory pit stop, tyre change only (no refuelling).
Progressive grid: Race 2 start order set by race 1 finish order.

Season Schedule
R1. Jan 26. Silverstone. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R2. Feb 2. Imola. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R3. Feb 9. Brands Hatch GP. 2 x 21 laps (format 2).
R4. Feb 16. Mugello. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).
-- optional car swap --
R5. Feb 23. Monza. 2 x 17 laps (format 2).
R6. Mar 1. Nurburgring GP. 2 x 15 laps (format 2).
R7. Mar 8. Spa. 2 x 13 laps (format 2).
R8. Mar 15. Barcelona GP. 1 x 34 laps (format 1).

Points
Qualifying:
Top 10 qualifiers get points: 15,12,10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1

Format 1:
Points awarded according to positions on lap 14 ("points shall be awarded to each automobile that crosses the Control Line after the leader completes x laps"):
50,42,35,30,25,20,18,16,14,12,10...1
Points awarded also at race finish:
100,84,70,60,50,40,36,32,28,24,20,18,16,14,12,10,8,6,4,1

Format 2:
Points awarded at race finish:
75,63,53,45,38,30,27,24,21,18,15,14,12,11,9,8,6,5,3,1

Penalties
I'll check opening lap T1 & 2 incidents as usual. If you want to report other incidents you want looked at, PM me the race, lap and drivers involved. Penalty will be some small amount of ballast for the next round only (no points penalty).

Sign Up
1. Wally - Nissan, BMW, Audi
2. Rolz - Nissan, Audi, McLaren
3. Bacchulum - Audi, Nissan, McLaren
4. Marty - Mercedes, Audi, McLaren
5. Simone - BMW, Nissan, McLaren
6. Christopheraser - BMW, Audi, Mclaren
7. Guybrush - Lambo, Audi, Nissan
8. StanDaam - BMW, Audi, Nissan
9. Phil.8 - SCG 003C
10. Matthew111 - TBD
11. Gratulin - Lamborghini, BMW, Audi
12. Grat - BMW, McLaren, Audi
13. Will - Audi, Lambo, BMW
14. Jeremy - TBD
15. Bafs17 - BMW, Audi, Nissan
16. Grubbet - Audi, Nissan, Mclaren
17. Freezer - Nissan GTR, BMW Z4, SLS AMG
18. AJ - Audi, Mercedes, BMW
19. Ysu - Nissan, Lambo, Audi
20. DaveO - McLaren, Lambo, BMW
21. Fozzy - BMW, Nissan, Audi
22. Doobs - TBD
23. Joe - TBD
24. Flattop - Merc, Nissan, Audi
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 21, 2015, 11:26:16 AM
Hi Ben,

Yes for sure, I can put you on the reserve list. You'll definitely get one or more races. In the meantime, come along to the various fun races on Tuesday and Thursday nights, with qually starting at 8:30pm Eastern Daylight, and the server up for practice beforehand.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Mael on December 21, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
Hi Wally

Can you add me to the reserves? 

Promise won't crash into you again, well not on purpose anyway  ;D

Mael
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 21, 2015, 02:19:30 PM
Hi Wally

Can you add me to the reserves? 

Promise won't crash into you again, well not on purpose anyway  ;D

Mael

Done. Don't forget to choose a car. Forget about that accident - it was as much my fault as yours :)
Hopefully we've got similar pace in the SCG again.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on December 24, 2015, 10:17:07 AM
Hi Wally - I'm going to go with the "Audi R8 LMS Ultra" for this season if possible please :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 24, 2015, 11:35:33 AM
Hi Wally - I'm going to go with the "Audi R8 LMS Ultra" for this season if possible please :)

Done.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: doobs on December 24, 2015, 06:03:10 PM
Pm'd you Wally.   :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 25, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
Pm'd you Wally.   :)
Thanks, read it.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 26, 2015, 01:59:29 PM
I put weather details into the first post:

Weather
Races are at 11am and 2pm, or 1pm for a single race. Weather is based on the dates of the 2015 International GT3 Open (northern hemisphere), and from the real historical weather on those dates.

R1. Silverstone. 12 Light Fog. 15 Light Clouds.
R2. Imola. 12 Light Clouds. 14 Light Clouds.
R3. Brands Hatch. 25 Clear. 24 Clear.
R4. Mugello. 34 Clear.
R5. Monza. 17 Mid Clear. 19 Light Clouds.
R6. Nurburgring. 10 Clear. 14 Clear.
R7. Spa. 11 Clear. 12 Clear.
R8. Barcelona. 18 Clear.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 26, 2015, 04:48:21 PM
Mugello with that temp on the day will certainly effect tyre strategy.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 26, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
Mugello with that temp on the day will certainly effect tyre strategy.
Yeah, I think so. Perhaps hards will cope better with the heat. That's air temp, by the way. Track temp will be even hotter in weather like that.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on December 26, 2015, 11:25:32 PM
Gents, are we sticking to a single car now? If yes, I'll stick to the Nissan, thanks!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 27, 2015, 09:05:05 AM
Gents, are we sticking to a single car now? If yes, I'll stick to the Nissan, thanks!
Yep, with an optional mid-season swap to another car if you like.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Simone on December 27, 2015, 11:22:17 AM
HELLO!!   Can i start with the BMW?   THX
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 27, 2015, 11:23:36 AM
HELLO!!   Can i start with the BMW?   THX
Yep, thanks.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on December 29, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
I will take the BMW Z3 GT3 please.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on December 29, 2015, 09:37:41 AM
I will take the BMW Z3 GT3 please.
OK.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Stupid Sexy Flanders on January 04, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
I'd love to join in on this! I'll start with the BMW Z4.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 04, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
I'd love to join in on this! I'll start with the BMW Z4.
I've put you on the reserves list. Keep an eye on your PM's here, 'cos I'll PM you if a spot comes up. You're bound to get a few races as people can't make it or drop out.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 04, 2016, 06:26:54 PM
Actually, with the availability of simple mods to put more pit boxes on KS tracks, we might be able to get everyone racing at once. Watch this space.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 04, 2016, 08:31:25 PM
Actually, with the availability of simple mods to put more pit boxes on KS tracks, we might be able to get everyone racing at once. Watch this space.
ooh, that sounds exciting!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 11, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Wally I'm going to be away for work for the first round :(

The good news is that Marty has elected to give me all the points he scores.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Phil.8 on January 11, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
Gee that's nice of Marty, makes his championship tough now
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 11, 2016, 11:06:34 PM
No worries GB. It's time to look for another job. Mobile pot refurbisher,  perhaps?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Mael on January 12, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
I'll go for the McLaren 650S GT3!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 15, 2016, 06:36:45 PM
Hey Bird, I reckon TKO Racing should re-form. Let's get the band back together (Sorry Krahl Racing!)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Phil.8 on January 15, 2016, 06:54:01 PM
That's cool, I thought was only for last season teams anyway, and you would reform your old team once the season was over
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: paul_wallace on January 16, 2016, 08:24:28 AM
If there's still room with the new track mods, I'd love to sign up with the Lamborghini Huracan GT3!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 16, 2016, 08:35:45 AM
If there's still room with the new track mods, I'd love to sign up with the Lamborghini Huracan GT3!
Added!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 16, 2016, 08:49:13 AM
Those poor Mercs aren't getting much love.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 16, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
If there is a car swap mid season I might give one of the Merc's a crack.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 16, 2016, 10:22:43 AM
If there is a car swap mid season I might give one of the Merc's a crack.
Yep, there is an optional mid-season car swap.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 16, 2016, 12:40:08 PM
I havent decided my car yet but I wont take the easy option of the lambo  ;) as this seems to be the quickest in general and its likely the car that will end up winning the season.

It would be funny if Kunos cripple this a bit during the season and you will see lots of people abandon ship.   ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Sin on January 16, 2016, 02:55:11 PM
I'll sign up for this, after running some laps yesterday.

The Audi is my preference, but to be honest I will take any car left over because I won't be running at the pointy end and I only started playing AC in 2nd week of December last year so I it's been a long time away from the wheel for me. I have a lot to learn and catch up on.

Let me know which car you are putting me in Wally. Anything but the Lambo thanks.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on January 16, 2016, 04:03:23 PM
Those poor Mercs aren't getting much love.

I may take one on mid season, I do love the sound of the Merc and also the "lazy" way it does it's job.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Matthew111 on January 16, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
I havent decided my car yet but I wont take the easy option of the lambo  ;) as this seems to be the quickest in general and its likely the car that will end up winning the season.

It would be funny if Kunos cripple this a bit during the season and you will see lots of people abandon ship.   ;D

Yeah the audi and lambo are about a sec quicker lol, which leads me to the question are we going to put default balast on these cars to bring them closer together?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Sin on January 16, 2016, 04:22:59 PM
Put me in the Mercedes AMG GT3. Happy to run it for the series.  :D

I will start my first bit of testing on this thing tonight.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 16, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
I havent decided my car yet but I wont take the easy option of the lambo  ;) as this seems to be the quickest in general and its likely the car that will end up winning the season.

It would be funny if Kunos cripple this a bit during the season and you will see lots of people abandon ship.   ;D

Yeah the audi and lambo are about a sec quicker lol, which leads me to the question are we going to put default balast on these cars to bring them closer together?
Nope. Choose your car wisely, and drive it out of the box.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 16, 2016, 05:51:56 PM
I havent decided my car yet but I wont take the easy option of the lambo  ;) as this seems to be the quickest in general and its likely the car that will end up winning the season.

It would be funny if Kunos cripple this a bit during the season and you will see lots of people abandon ship.   ;D

I haven't done much running in the Lambo, but I know the Audi is quicker at Vallelunga.  Lambo is also more difficult to control... Allegedly.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 16, 2016, 07:04:25 PM
I thought the Lambo was a bit tricky to drive, small power band range, not much torque, unforgiving. Had some excellent races with GB last night, the Audi advantage over the Lambo made it quite competitive (I know what you're thinking, how much did I have to slow down to make GB feel like he was catchin me, yep yep yep...  :-X).
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: christopheraser on January 16, 2016, 07:55:09 PM
I think most if not all of the cars have potential. They all have their various strengths and weakness', and it will be interesting to see how they all go at different tracks.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 16, 2016, 08:20:39 PM
Agreed!!!
 :P :P :P
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Joe on January 17, 2016, 10:22:20 AM
Managed to try out of a few of the cars on Friday night. Think I'll take the Audi please Wally.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 17, 2016, 10:35:05 AM
Managed to try out of a few of the cars on Friday night. Think I'll take the Audi please Wally.
OK.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 17, 2016, 03:10:52 PM
I havent decided my car yet but I wont take the easy option of the lambo  ;) as this seems to be the quickest in general and its likely the car that will end up winning the season.

It would be funny if Kunos cripple this a bit during the season and you will see lots of people abandon ship.   ;D

Yeah the audi and lambo are about a sec quicker lol, which leads me to the question are we going to put default balast on these cars to bring them closer together?

There really isnt much incentive to select some of the cars. I tried to give the 650s gt3 a fair crack, it can get reasonable lap times but is so out matched in traffic by everything else the only reason youd choose it is if you wanted to be passed easily and not be able to pass anything thats not a mclaren.  ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 17, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
What we could try, as a bit of an equaliser, is to say that at the mid-season car swap, the top half of the standings have to swap to one of the Mclarens or the Mercs. The bottom half can stay in the car they have, or swap if they want to. But we'll see how the first 4 rounds shape up.

In the Vallelunga stats, Marty has the second fastest time in a McLaren 650S. So it depends a lot too on who drives what.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 17, 2016, 04:03:11 PM
Here is the server lap times for Vallelunga on medium tyres only.

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?track=vallelunga-vallelunga_osrw&cars=ks_audi_r8_lms,bmw_z4_gt3,ks_lamborghini_huracan_gt3,ks_mclaren_650_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,ks_mercedes_amg_gt3,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,ks_glickenhaus_scg003&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=&tyres=%28M%29

Here is a comparison with the 650s gt3 for me and the fastest laps in the Huracan with GB.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/99f5/mruiy27o3cye81w4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/mruiy27o3cye81w/Huracan_vs_650s_gt3.JPG)

Here is Stan in the Audi vs me in the 650s

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/77d0/zan6nnefoz08me94g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/zan6nnefoz08me9/R8_vs_650s.JPG)

You can see the main difference here is out of the final turn, also interesting comparing the Huracan and Audi, not sure if GB needs to brake more in the Huracan into t1 or his best lap on medium tyres he just stuffed that corner up.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/dd1c/le998jyii3frz614g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/le998jyii3frz61/Huracan_vs_audi.JPG)

Here is GB and Paul Wallace both in Huracans so it seems the Lambo has clearly more acceleration but needs to slow more for this turn.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4fe5/4d4x8qj98tfkqjf4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/4d4x8qj98tfkqjf/Huracan_paul_vs_GB.JPG)

Seems the only reason the Audi is quicker here is because t1 it can carry more speed then the Lambo but the lambo has some real grunt out of t1 and why GB could easily pass me out of the last turn well before needing to turn in for t1. It then needs to slow more and so is giving a little time to the audi here, the rest of the track there isnt much in it but seems maybe audi is quicker through the trickier corners. Mclaren doesnt lose time the rest of the lap but it doesnt quite make up what it loses out od t1 and this was running 1 0 aero so min drag at the rear.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 17, 2016, 04:21:11 PM
Nice glory board!!!
So that's what the 'plus' button does!!
:P :-X :P
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 17, 2016, 04:43:41 PM
I haven't driven the Audi extensively, but from what I have, it seems to corner better than the Harycan.  I think it's a classic case of each car having different strengths.  At Vallelunga the Audi is quicker, but at other tracks like Monza I'd imagine the Huracan to be quicker.

Also, it's difficult to guage the parity of lap times when there is variable grip.  The difference between 97% and 100% can be a couple of seconds.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: fozzy on January 17, 2016, 04:44:16 PM
Do you guys race with ABS/TC?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 17, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
Do you guys race with ABS/TC?

First thing I normally do is turn TC off, but I usually leave ABS as is.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 17, 2016, 04:59:56 PM
Do you guys race with ABS/TC?
Whereas I leave both on. In longer races, TC may help with tyre wear too, with less sliding.

Nice graphs Marty.  They look fairly close, all up.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 17, 2016, 05:29:17 PM
I leave them both on and tweak their rates just like another setup option (more TC than ABS).
 :D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 17, 2016, 05:43:25 PM
TC's too hard to tweak, I reckon. You never know what the default "factory" TC level is, and you can't save it with the setup, so I don't bother.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 17, 2016, 05:53:02 PM
Just to remind peoples, Traction Control (control T) set at say 1/8 is the strongest TC, whereas 8/8 is a very mild setting of TC.
 :o
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 17, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
Just to remind peoples, Traction Control (control T) set at say 1/8 is the strongest TC, whereas 8/8 is a very mild setting of TC.
 :o

Doesnt always seem to be the case though, it may be of some use playing around with it. But Id probably setup the car with no TC then maybe once I have it set have a play with the tc options to see if can be better especially over a longer race. I tried some tc at Vallelunga thought and it made it worse to drive and less controllable so better to just use my foot of tc.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: StanDaam on January 17, 2016, 09:27:17 PM
Drivers, like cars, have different strengths and weaknesses!!!
 :-X :P :-X
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 18, 2016, 12:14:51 AM
Running at Brands earlier seemed I needed a bit of tc in all cars there, Vallelunga Im finding TC tends to hurt more then it helps for most of the lap. It would probably be better exiting the hairpin then the fast chicane after as I feel I need to be very careful through there on throttle. With TC at the correct level you could be a bit more aggressive out of both of those.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bafs17 on January 18, 2016, 02:22:45 AM
Hey Wally, I'll take the BMW Z4 for this season.

Will be in Warrnambool this week so will miss Tuesday night.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 18, 2016, 02:32:22 AM
Hey Wally, I'll take the BMW Z4 for this season.

Will be in Warrnambool this week so will miss Tuesday night.

Cheers.

Ha. While I'm away you could get into my house and race for me!  Just mind the swing like device suspended from the ceiling.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Mael on January 18, 2016, 11:23:49 AM
Hey Wally could you chance my choice to the Nissan GTR? Tried hard to make the Mclaren 650 work but see a future of dive-bombing in the races if i continue to to drive it  ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bafs17 on January 18, 2016, 12:52:54 PM
Hey Wally, I'll take the BMW Z4 for this season.

Will be in Warrnambool this week so will miss Tuesday night.

Cheers.

Ha. While I'm away you could get into my house and race for me!  Just mind the swing like device suspended from the ceiling.

Oh the misses would be pleased with me racing while away. I'll just look for the sexually deviant garden gnomes you've placed at the front of the house. Marty told me they're in leather and fishnets.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 18, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Hey Wally could you chance my choice to the Nissan GTR? Tried hard to make the Mclaren 650 work but see a future of dive-bombing in the races if i continue to to drive it  ;D
Done.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 18, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
Hey Wally, I'll take the BMW Z4 for this season.

Will be in Warrnambool this week so will miss Tuesday night.

Cheers.

Ha. While I'm away you could get into my house and race for me!  Just mind the swing like device suspended from the ceiling.

Oh the misses would be pleased with me racing while away. I'll just look for the sexually deviant garden gnomes you've placed at the front of the house. Marty told me they're in leather and fishnets.

Last thing you want to do is leave your fingerprints in that house. It also easy to spot as its got a full time undercover surveillance crew out front. Though when GB is out "working" they probably follow him to see if he is bringing home another "friend"  ;D

However if you did go to the sim room youd want to bring your own seat. You may find that all cars on that setup are a couple seconds quicker then at home.  ;)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Chap on January 18, 2016, 06:12:12 PM
I'd Like to drive around at the back of the field if there is room on the grid for me.

only just sorted my PC/AC/Wheel/BDOS issues so will do some laps and advise my car preference.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 18, 2016, 06:37:50 PM
I'd Like to drive around at the back of the field if there is room on the grid for me.

only just sorted my PC/AC/Wheel/BDOS issues so will do some laps and advise my car preference.
OK, I've added you.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 18, 2016, 06:41:00 PM
It's about now that I start praying that everything's going to work with 30 people on the grid. I spoke to the OSRW admin who made the tracks with the extra pit boxes, and he reckons everything works fine, and the C3.Large AWS server should cope.

I ran 30 AIs at Vallelunga without any problems.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
c3.large is quite a server.  Did they mean c4.large though? That's the current gen cpu intensive.  If that can't cope with it... altho what I've found that on our type of load (web service with spikes) the t2.medium is quite a good replacement for a c4.large, and cheaper.  That's because of the burstable CPU performance. 

Depending on the usage, it maybe worth a look at.   The RAM is the same, they both have 2 vCPUs, but the c4 runs on better processors. It really depends on
1) does the AC server really need better cpu?
2) will the default amount of cpu credit run out on the t2 during an evening session?

Actually, after another look again, it seems the t2 can provide better performance as long as you can burst it.  So that's really the question - can it last?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 18, 2016, 07:58:18 PM
No, I've got an on demand C3.large. That's what Tuesday's always been. It should be fine. 500 mbps upload.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 18, 2016, 09:53:16 PM
I think that server should have no issues as the t2 small I run has had well over 30 people at once a few times though over separate servers with minorating and stracker running also. Been a few times with a full 24 slot server and 10-20 more spread on other servers mostly after AC updates when pub servers get busier. Now that I filter a bit harsher in MR the numbers havent been that high but I cant imagine the server causing any issues on race nites.

All should have a test against a full ai field from the back of the grid to see how it will effect their performance, in MP it should run a bit better then with AI too so if you can get it to run well with ai should be fine on race nites.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 19, 2016, 07:33:55 AM
I was merely suggesting the c3/c4 large "compute intensive" maybe a bit too much, and that maybe we could save a tiny bit of money... :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 19, 2016, 07:52:47 AM
I was merely suggesting the c3/c4 large "compute intensive" maybe a bit too much, and that maybe we could save a tiny bit of money... :)
Fair point... but I'm lazy :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 19, 2016, 08:40:42 AM
I was merely suggesting the c3/c4 large "compute intensive" maybe a bit too much, and that maybe we could save a tiny bit of money... :)
Fair point... but I'm lazy :)
You know that all you need is r-click in the list of instances (when stopped) and change instance type...:)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 19, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
I was merely suggesting the c3/c4 large "compute intensive" maybe a bit too much, and that maybe we could save a tiny bit of money... :)
Fair point... but I'm lazy :)
You know that all you need is r-click in the list of instances (when stopped) and change instance type...:)

Oh really? And it keeps all your settings/configuration?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 19, 2016, 10:43:24 AM
I was merely suggesting the c3/c4 large "compute intensive" maybe a bit too much, and that maybe we could save a tiny bit of money... :)
Fair point... but I'm lazy :)
You know that all you need is r-click in the list of instances (when stopped) and change instance type...:)

Oh really? And it keeps all your settings/configuration?

It keeps the whole server intact, bar the memory.
Oh, except if something was on the ephemeral storage (those pesky SSD's that are attached to some instance types and you need to separately use them - I'm pretty sure you don't)

Edit:
Ah! make sure the instance's stopping behaviour is 'stop' not 'terminate'!  I don't think you'd do that, it is not the default setup, but it must be mentioned...
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 19, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
Quote
Round Formats
Format 1: 1 hour race, 3 x fuel and tyres.
2 compulsory pit stops. Pit stop window for compulsory pit stops is between lap 6 and 23.

Format 2: 2 x 30 min race, 2 x fuel and tyres.
1 compulsory pit stop, tyre change only (no refuelling).
Progressive grid: Race 2 start order set by race 1 finish order.

Wally with the round formats, compulsary stops how are you going to monitor the lap stops are on as I think the pitlane notification to apps is still broken.

Also format 2 tyre change only? How will you monitor if people add fuel. Also is there a 2 compound rule or something or can you run any compound in all races.

Race 2 could be fun if there were 2 compounds available so youd need to run medium and hards. Cant run softs in race even at regular wear in gt3 but running medium and hard at some point in race could make things interesting. With no points given to those that dont use 2 tyres or stop outside the window.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 19, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
Quote
Round Formats
Format 1: 1 hour race, 3 x fuel and tyres.
2 compulsory pit stops. Pit stop window for compulsory pit stops is between lap 6 and 23.

Format 2: 2 x 30 min race, 2 x fuel and tyres.
1 compulsory pit stop, tyre change only (no refuelling).
Progressive grid: Race 2 start order set by race 1 finish order.

Wally with the round formats, compulsary stops how are you going to monitor the lap stops are on as I think the pitlane notification to apps is still broken.

Also format 2 tyre change only? How will you monitor if people add fuel. Also is there a 2 compound rule or something or can you run any compound in all races.

Race 2 could be fun if there were 2 compounds available so youd need to run medium and hards. Cant run softs in race even at regular wear in gt3 but running medium and hard at some point in race could make things interesting. With no points given to those that dont use 2 tyres or stop outside the window.

I can't enforce the pit stop window, not the refuelling. They are guidelines only, based on real life regs.

Yes, I've suggested the multiple compound thing before. I think it could make some interesting strategies. Although some races are very cold, which already might influence tyre strategy. It might be best to leave it as per real life, and not have compound restrictions.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: rob on January 20, 2016, 07:56:58 AM
Hi Wally, my PC held together last night so I would like to give the season a go. So if there is room count me in, I'm happy to be a reserve if you already have a full grid.

Seeing as I'll be running around towards the rear of the grid I'll give the Merc AMG SLS some love.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bruce on January 20, 2016, 08:01:57 AM
Good news Rob, we can have our own race, (I hope). :)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 20, 2016, 08:14:21 AM
Hi Wally, my PC held together last night so I would like to give the season a go. So if there is room count me in, I'm happy to be a reserve if you already have a full grid.

Seeing as I'll be running around towards the rear of the grid I'll give the Merc AMG SLS some love.
Good news Rob, although I'm not looking forward to the sight of the rear of your fat Merc again :)
I've put you on the grid and relegated newbie Ben to the reserves, as is my usual policy for long-standing members.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 20, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
Wally dont all the tracks this season have at least 31 grid spots. I only see 30 signed in so far but also there should be some rules regarding when people pull out to give some notice. Past seasons with 24 starterd and reserves we still rarely had a full grid due to 3 or 4 no shows each week.

If people cant race best to advise as soon as possible to leave the spot open for any possible reserves. There are a few people I think that have been down for a season and barely ran 1 or 2 races yet never gave notice of not making race nites.

There seems to be enough interest for this season so we should be able to get close to 30 starters each round.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 20, 2016, 06:32:52 PM
Wally dont all the tracks this season have at least 31 grid spots. I only see 30 signed in so far but also there should be some rules regarding when people pull out to give some notice. Past seasons with 24 starterd and reserves we still rarely had a full grid due to 3 or 4 no shows each week.

If people cant race best to advise as soon as possible to leave the spot open for any possible reserves. There are a few people I think that have been down for a season and barely ran 1 or 2 races yet never gave notice of not making race nites.

There seems to be enough interest for this season so we should be able to get close to 30 starters each round.
I'll double check. I thought they were a bit varied. I only need to be told if people can't make it if we actually have a reserve list.

You're right. The tracks were using for the season have min 32. No reserves!
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 22, 2016, 10:28:46 AM
I said it before, but I'll repeat it.

You are not allowed to add fuel
(although I can't enforce it).

I will be able to check that people have pitted though, and yes, if you don't it will be a DQ.

Ok its just that time gained by people adding fuel can be quite a bit early in the race, opening up fueling would just make it fairer for all and you could still choose to not add fuel. Otherwise its just an advantage for those that choose not to follow the rule that really cant be monitored.

It would be great if the server kept info on tyre stops including how long it took and what was done in the stop. Then beyond that have options to limit things such as fuel and tyres not being done at the same time. Also enforce penatlies such as stop go/ drive through which I still think is a better penalty then the plp 10 seconds for cuts. Though a time penalty should be given if the penalty is given on the last lap and no time to serve a drive through.

A pit stop here for tyres seems to cost around 26 seconds not sure how much a drive through costs but Im sure its still more then 10 seconds.

Seeing the amount of track limit violations in the prac server I suspect quite a few will get penalties. Also people not running the current plp version should get no points but I didnt even see a mention of it in the first post so some new guys may not be aware of needing to use this.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 22, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
Marty, don't you remember why the 10s is done instead of a stop?  There were a few reasons, they're still valid I reckon.   You've brought up one of them. :)  Another one was safety.  We can't just change the rules around track-by-track because here a stop is 26s and many people are cutting (on a praccy server!!).

I agree on the fuel front, though.  If we can't enforce it, we might as well drop it.  But I'm easy either way.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 22, 2016, 11:56:03 AM
The 1 thing I dont like about the 10 sec vs the drive through is that someone may get a penalty and then get in the way of others battling for position they really shouldn't be battling for later in the race. Better to have the penalty dealt with in race but thats just my view, seeing pitlane detection is kind of broken anyway its the only real option we have atm. But drive troughs may make people respect the track limits more then say getting slapped 10 seconds at the end of the race. If anything someone getting a 10 second penalty may then become even more aggressive among people they shouldn't be battling trying to recover the time lost making them even more of a hazard and likely to take out these people they aren't racing directly.

I think the main purpose of plp is not to actually penalize people but to keep them on the track so its safer for all around them rather then people running miles wide then rejoining without much care for others. I dont see how its any safer by having a 10 sec penalty then forcing a drive through, people entering and exiting pits should always do this with care and there are pit exit lines on all tracks that really should be observed and then normal racing rules resume once your back on the track.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 22, 2016, 06:41:18 PM
I don't see any need to change anything. I'm not going to revisit rules every week.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 22, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
Hi Wally, my PC held together last night so I would like to give the season a go. So if there is room count me in, I'm happy to be a reserve if you already have a full grid.

Seeing as I'll be running around towards the rear of the grid I'll give the Merc AMG SLS some love.
Ummm Rob... Merc AMG or Merc SLS?
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Chap on January 22, 2016, 09:39:04 PM
Wally I will be driving the Audi R8 For this Season.

Thanks
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 22, 2016, 10:18:50 PM
Wally I will be driving the Audi R8 For this Season.

Thanks
Thanks.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bacchulum on January 23, 2016, 06:57:33 PM
Looking like an Audi v BMW season, mainly. 8)
(the Germans will be happy)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Rolz on January 23, 2016, 07:00:40 PM
We are  :P
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 23, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
Don't forget Nismooooooooo.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 23, 2016, 08:27:09 PM
Looking like an Audi v BMW season, mainly. 8)
(the Germans will be happy)

They are the 2 easiest cars to get pace out of, audi gets its pace by eating rubber mostly z4 is probably the best all rounder.

Lets just hope the mclarens dominate Silverstone like they should. ;D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 23, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
There's a huge problem here.
Track is 19deg (air 12) and we can't get the tyres over 70/64 (left/right) on the server.

If this is how the season will be, it'll be rubbish. I simply refuse to believe that the real races run a compound that can't get up to minimum temp.  I think we should increase the temps to get the tyres to be a bit more realistic - something I reckon is not correct with the sim here.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bacchulum on January 23, 2016, 08:35:14 PM
I only chose Audi cause I haven't driven it yet, and I'd like to own one.
THEN I found out it was one of the quicker cars, true. 8)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Wally on January 23, 2016, 08:47:21 PM
There's a huge problem here.
Track is 19deg (air 12) and we can't get the tyres over 70/64 (left/right) on the server.

If this is how the season will be, it'll be rubbish. I simply refuse to believe that the real races run a compound that can't get up to minimum temp.  I think we should increase the temps to get the tyres to be a bit more realistic - something I reckon is not correct with the sim here.
That's part of the challenge - dealing with a range of temperatures in the AC universe. Some tracks will be hot. Some will be cold. Grip will be up and down.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 23, 2016, 09:14:57 PM
There's a huge problem here.
Track is 19deg (air 12) and we can't get the tyres over 70/64 (left/right) on the server.

If this is how the season will be, it'll be rubbish. I simply refuse to believe that the real races run a compound that can't get up to minimum temp.  I think we should increase the temps to get the tyres to be a bit more realistic - something I reckon is not correct with the sim here.

Everyone has the same issue, its not optimum condition hotlapping its all about setting the car up for the conditions and dealing with it as well as you can.

I wish that we had actual changeable conditions in AC not more static hotlap settings most seem to prefer. Not having a go at you here but funny how many people all complain there is no rain yet put crappier conditions in a server and most leave anyway or complain.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bird on January 23, 2016, 09:21:51 PM
Do you reckon IRL these cars will not get enough running temps in the compound on a 19 deg track?  I doubt that.
Even if so wouldn't they just put a compound on that can do it?

I can see everyone is having this problem; funnily, some cars seem to cope better some worse...they have nice little differences.

Just had a nice run on the praccy server with a few guys - it was good fun, thanks gents!

It'd be nice if we'd all jump on TS for praccy as well, though.  It's easier than typing :D
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Bacchulum on January 23, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
From what I hear, these are real life issues in GT racing, especially in Europe.
(I think the soft would be optimal if it didn't wear so quick)
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: marty on January 23, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Do you reckon IRL these cars will not get enough running temps in the compound on a 19 deg track?  I doubt that.
Even if so wouldn't they just put a compound on that can do it?

I can see everyone is having this problem; funnily, some cars seem to cope better some worse...they have nice little differences.

Just had a nice run on the praccy server with a few guys - it was good fun, thanks gents!

It'd be nice if we'd all jump on TS for praccy as well, though.  It's easier than typing :D

Going by real world gt racing I think the tyres arent quite right all up, there really isnt much need for hards but then maybe these only work when its very hot. I remember Bathurst was at 40c ambient and track over 60c they were still double stinting mediums in the morning and some triple stinted the hards when it heated up. Some guys ran their quickest laps after 2 hours on the tyres and thats far from possible with the AC tyres.

In AC the hards are fairly useless and wear is quit ehigh with actual lap pace quite a bit off the real world times. Blancpain pole last year at Silverstone was 2:00.829 in the Nismo gtr and the mclaren set fastest lap in the race with 2:02.971.

They dont run soft compounds in blancpain very often and qualifying they run multiple laps often getting faster after 4 laps or so.

The nurburgring 24hr is an odd one as its a tyre war, pretty much every tyre company turns up and they have multiple compounds to run there so in gt3 most series have their own tyres. Who knows which ones AC is meant to be running but if you cant quite maych medium tyre pace in a real race with the ultra soft qualy tyres then seems something is a bit wrong there.

But Ive watched some races in europe like spa where track temps are close to 0 and they all struggle real hard to get any temp into tyres.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 23, 2016, 10:17:44 PM
One of the biggest things missing in AC IMO, is the absence of brake temps and heat soak into the tyres.

Anyway, such is life, as long as the graining is the same for everyone it's cool.
Title: Re: Season 10: Australian GT3 Regulations and Sign Up
Post by: Phil.8 on January 23, 2016, 10:33:30 PM
its a shame pcars has all the cool small details like brake, water , oil temps and splits in MP,  but most of the cars and tracks don't feel right.
Might have to have a drive to see if any better since last few patches
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