« previous next » Print Pages: 1 2 3 Author Topic: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 (Read 19636 times) Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3403 Karma: 96 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #15 on: August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM » You need to enable Dev_Apps.This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.iniOnce you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).Enjoy the world of numbers. Logged 2+2=√16 Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11035 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #16 on: August 18, 2018, 03:52:29 PM » Quote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 09:06:26 AMDid some aero mapping in the E21 and managed to get 40% front CoP, even without a front wing. And that allowed me to get the spring frequencies back to a more traditional delta. Setup posted on sTracker. But did it make you faster? Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3403 Karma: 96 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #17 on: August 18, 2018, 04:15:22 PM » Yes, with more even tyre wear to boot. Logged 2+2=√16 Phil.8 Moderator Hero Member Posts: 4158 Karma: 62 Δ8 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #18 on: August 18, 2018, 04:37:53 PM » Quote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PMYou need to enable Dev_Apps.This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.iniOnce you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).Enjoy the world of numbers. I simple to understand app that gave these numbers in a way dummies like me could understand would be cool Logged The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3403 Karma: 96 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #19 on: August 18, 2018, 05:01:02 PM » I don't think you're talking to me there, Phil. Who do you think he's talking to Wally? Logged 2+2=√16 Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11035 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #20 on: August 18, 2018, 05:54:40 PM » Quote from: Phil.8 on August 18, 2018, 04:37:53 PMQuote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PMYou need to enable Dev_Apps.This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.iniOnce you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).Enjoy the world of numbers. I simple to understand app that gave these numbers in a way dummies like me could understand would be coolSome, or most, of these measurements aren't exposed to public apps, unfortunately. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” rob RestrictedRacing Full Member Posts: 539 Karma: 26 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #21 on: August 18, 2018, 07:08:31 PM » Thanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff. Logged Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3403 Karma: 96 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #22 on: August 18, 2018, 07:25:53 PM » Quote from: rob on August 18, 2018, 07:08:31 PMThanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff.I think the most valuable bit is the wing's balance (CoP) percentage.With some cars, one 'click' can be 20% on one end and only 5% on the other.Get the CoP right, you don't over-compensate with the suspension and excessively wear the tyres on one axle, as well as getting a better balanced car in both high and low speed corners.The rest can be closely judged by feel (by others I believe, but I like confirmation).My laptime improves more through confidence of consistency more than a gain in grip itself, but it can't hurt to know the car better. Logged 2+2=√16 rooshooter RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 2886 Karma: 52 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #23 on: August 19, 2018, 11:54:41 AM » This is a great high speed track, reminds me of Oesterreichring 70s, and just as hard to get right!!! After much stuffing around with setup, and many laps later, I went back to my Magione setup (which I was completely happy with) and voila I managed a 1m29s . Might be worth a try if you are having trouble, but you need to feel comfortable at the track first . This track is a great find and looks beautiful as well, thanks Seanus . Logged social media is the tobacco of this century rooshooter RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 2886 Karma: 52 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 03:45:10 PM » I have put my setup for the Avia-af87 on PTracker, which uses no aero . And one for Metalax 106, also with no aero. Logged social media is the tobacco of this century Seanus Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1421 Karma: 74 ∞+1|ℵ₀ Seanus Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #25 on: August 23, 2018, 12:49:42 PM » Bit late But an AF87 pls Logged I always knew the Sun shone out of my arse. Sean's bum is an anagram of Sunbeams. Phil.8 Moderator Hero Member Posts: 4158 Karma: 62 Δ8 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #26 on: August 23, 2018, 01:29:21 PM » All the cars have been assigned and there is at least one of each car available I think for those whop have not decided yet Logged The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3403 Karma: 96 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #27 on: August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PM » I hope I make it.Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see. Logged 2+2=√16 Phil.8 Moderator Hero Member Posts: 4158 Karma: 62 Δ8 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #28 on: August 23, 2018, 02:05:45 PM » Quote from: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PMI hope I make it.Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.I hope all is ok and get well soon Logged The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older rob RestrictedRacing Full Member Posts: 539 Karma: 26 Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018 « Reply #29 on: August 23, 2018, 02:45:57 PM » Quote from: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PMGoing under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.Gee Dave that doesn't sound too good. But I love your commitment!Hope all goes well mate. Get better soon. 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