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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on January 31, 2017, 09:38:09 PM
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RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/01/s15r4-praga-r1-at-spa.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/01/season-15-standings.html)
In race 1, Grat had gone off the track to the left at Eau Rouge, and as he re-entered, he continued to move slightly to the right, where Diehard was passing at speed, also moving slightly left to get out from behind Joe, and they hit side by side. I think that was just an unfortunate accident, with neither car seeing the other to the side. Grat bounced off the barrier and got airborne, which caused the pileup.
In race 2, RussG ran into the back of Simone, causing him to lose 2 spots, so gets 60kg penalty ballast for the next round.
Round Points
Phil.8 65
Diehard 62
Joe 57
Mael 57
RussG 54
Wally 54
ab156 52
nith 48
Bafs17 46
Grat 45
Simone 44
Bacchulum 41
Keith 40
Freezer 38
Rob 38
Doobs 36
Chap111 33
Shameless 32
Dave O 30
Vipergod 26
Seanus 24
AJ 17
Congratulations on Phil.8 for the two poles, Diehard and Grat for the race wins, and Phil.8 for the overall round win.
Season Podium
1. Kcender87, 190
2. Diehard, 179 (up from 3rd)
3. Grat, 167 (down from 2nd)
Team Podium
1. Krahl Racing (Phil.8 and Joe), 318
1. DA Racing (Grat and Wally), 302
2. KNR Racing (RussG and Keith), 266
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Not sure what happened in the first race. Lots of carnage in front of me. Spun twice in the race. Finished 7th
Race 2 i had a good start. Up to p5. PC froze 3 times. Ended up 12th
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Good night for me again. Qualified 3rd and got a good start off the line. Didn't expect diehard up the inside through eu rouge after wally saying not to go side by side on lap 1 but I saw him and downshifted, tried to hug the inside and we had a very slight touch which looked like it sent him off the track? Sorry of my fault but pretty sure I gave enough room.
After that i made a bit of a gap from diehard and mael but was never gonna be the 6 seconds handicap i had in the pits. They pitted behind me but got away first due to the handicap.
I came out behind Rob and in trying to get past nith also slipped past me and we had a battle for a couple of laps before I gave him a tiny tap coming out of the final turn. Looked like he got away clean but I spun allowing phil past after his spin before my stop. A few laps later I caught nith then he spun all on his own giving me 4th.
Race 2 i started 17th. My other faster laps must have been cuts and i didnt notice. I couldnt see my plp app tonight so will try and find it.. I had an awesome race with many good battles and somehow even with a 3 second handicap i finished 5th! A good little battle with wally at the end. Given another lap i think I'd have got you ;)
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That's probably all I should say Wally after race 1. But I think this needs to be said.
We all get pissed off when other drivers take us out of the race because they've lost control of their cars, most of us have been in this situation. I am constantly seeing more and more cars that can be controlled not being so. I came up to the top of the hill where the accident happened. I was on the left side of the track and I braked and geared down safely. I then drove to the opposite side to avoid it, only to be taken out by either 1 or 2 cars rolling backwards from the opposite side of the track and into me nearly destroying my car. Pushing my car into the wall. I had a cracked windscreen, front, left and rear damage. I do believe this kind of accident CAN be avoided if people learnt to control their cars and think about the other cars on the track. Most often than not I am seeing cars that could have braked after impact and stayed still rather than rolling back across the track and into other cars. I have been caught in an accident several times now where cars have been rolling back onto the track without a care in the world, no attempt to steer the car or brake.
These cars don't have a clutch and don't behave like the typical race car we are used to that we can just rev and spin and take off. They have to take off slowly until it's safe to gain speed.
No one seems to really care about this until it happens to them. I use a joystick and I have relatively good car control and awareness. There are times when we are all passengers but this time it was not the case.
For race 1 I heard Wally ask about a restart so I pulled over and the rest of the field pass me only to find out it wasn't going to happen, it should have. I spent 10 laps with a car 3 seconds slower than it should have been and for some reason it would not find the pits, I was tired, hot and extremely annoyed. I had sound issues that cut off teamspeak, my game sounds thankfully came back. so I parked it with 2 laps to go.
race 2 I went from 19th to 12th in the first lap and I think I made it to 9th only to drop to 19th when I pitted and worked my way back to 14th with Rob I think was closing in on me.
I can only hope people can learn from their mistakes and improve their car control and awareness, because just being fast isn't good enough.
I think sprint race is giving drivers the wrong mentality, I'd rather have a races that are 25-35 laps as people seem to value their cars a little more.
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Didn't expect diehard
I think you meant me. Anyway: no touch with you. Our lines through Radillon were going to cross, so I bailed out and cut the last kink---at that point it seemed the only safe thing to do. But when I got back in position behind you, Diehard and I did not judge the distances well (almost completely my fault, sorry guys) and we touched and I spun to the wall first and through the rest of the field afterward. My car was completely destroyed, but the replay was quite spectacular...
As I said: apologies to everybody. All I can say is that I really tried the whole time to do the safest thing. I just should have staid more to the left at the end of it all and nothing would have happened. Sorry.
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
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That's probably all I should say Wally after race 1. But I think this needs to be said.
We all get pissed off when other drivers take us out of the race because they've lost control of their cars, most of us have been in this situation. I am constantly seeing more and more cars that can be controlled not being so. I came up to the top of the hill where the accident happened. I was on the left side of the track and I braked and geared down safely. I then drove to the opposite side to avoid it, only to be taken out by either 1 or 2 cars rolling backwards from the opposite side of the track and into me nearly destroying my car. Pushing my car into the wall. I had a cracked windscreen, front, left and rear damage. I do believe this kind of accident CAN be avoided if people learnt to control their cars and think about the other cars on the track. Most often than not I am seeing cars that could have braked after impact and stayed still rather than rolling back across the track and into other cars. I have been caught in an accident several times now where cars have been rolling back onto the track without a care in the world, no attempt to steer the car or brake.
These cars don't have a clutch and don't behave like the typical race car we are used to that we can just rev and spin and take off. They have to take off slowly until it's safe to gain speed.
No one seems to really care about this until it happens to them. I use a joystick and I have relatively good car control and awareness. There are times when we are all passengers but this time it was not the case.
For race 1 I heard Wally ask about a restart so I pulled over and the rest of the field pass me only to find out it wasn't going to happen, it should have. I spent 10 laps with a car 3 seconds slower than it should have been and for some reason it would not find the pits, I was tired, hot and extremely annoyed. I had sound issues that cut off teamspeak, my game sounds thankfully came back. so I parked it with 2 laps to go.
race 2 I went from 19th to 12th in the first lap and I think I made it to 9th only to drop to 19th when I pitted and worked my way back to 14th with Rob I think was closing in on me.
I can only hope people can learn from their mistakes and improve their car control and awareness, because just being fast isn't good enough.
I think sprint race is giving drivers the wrong mentality, I'd rather have a races that are 25-35 laps as people seem to value their cars a little more.
Shameless: I read your post twice and I am still not sure who you are criticizing. Maybe me, but in my case there was no car control issue, nor anything I could do whatsoever after the first touch with Diehard. Maybe others behind me and you---yes, I am sure we can all be more careful, but there is going to be some situation like this any now and then.
As for the restart: I don't know,... I don't mind too much. It was boring to be 2 minutes down, but it is the price you pay for a lap 1 crash. It happens in real life, it happens here. I don't think Wally is doing anything wrong there.
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
I had a bad start (went to 2nd gear) and that's why you passed me. But then your exit from La Source was... ehm, well,... a bit pathetic, so I ended up on your left at eau rouge and I just tried to avoid crashing with you... but then I ended up touching with him :(
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
I had a bad start (went to 2nd gear) and that's why you passed me. But then your exit from La Source was... ehm, well,... a bit pathetic, so I ended up on your left at eau rouge and I just tried to avoid crashing with you... but then I ended up touching with him :(
Pathetic how? Did i drift infront of you? I know it was a slow exit as was trying to keep to my side of the track being the inside.
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
I had a bad start (went to 2nd gear) and that's why you passed me. But then your exit from La Source was... ehm, well,... a bit pathetic, so I ended up on your left at eau rouge and I just tried to avoid crashing with you... but then I ended up touching with him :(
Pathetic how? Did i drift infront of you? I know it was a slow exit as was trying to keep to my side of the track being the inside.
Joe: I was just joking. I meant it was slower then mine :)
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Didn't expect diehard
I think you meant me.
Yeah Diehard was not at fault, just extremely lucky not to have a massive accident!
Race 1 was good for me, helped by no means by all the accidents (many thanks Grat will send cigars). Car was fast, easy to drive and pit stops went well.
Race 2 was not so good :(. It started well with a lucky move to get by Diehard. Then it all went wrong in the pit-stop. Parked in the box expecting to see a counter but nothing happened. Literally nothing happenend, pitconfig did not work and AC selections did not work. I ended up reversing and starting the process from scratch. From there a fun race with RussG in particular, sorry if I almost took you out a couple of times RussG ;D
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
I had a bad start (went to 2nd gear) and that's why you passed me. But then your exit from La Source was... ehm, well,... a bit pathetic, so I ended up on your left at eau rouge and I just tried to avoid crashing with you... but then I ended up touching with him :(
Pathetic how? Did i drift infront of you? I know it was a slow exit as was trying to keep to my side of the track being the inside.
Joe: I was just joking. I meant it was slower then mine :)
Hah yes. Just trying to keep to the inside as much as i could :) on another note I beat your pb on the practise server last night ;)
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Results in 1st post!
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Ah must have been you grat. I thought i saw you get a poor start on helicorsa with diehard getting through but perhaps not.
Also being my birthday today I'm a little disappointed people didn't let me win both races...
I had a bad start (went to 2nd gear) and that's why you passed me. But then your exit from La Source was... ehm, well,... a bit pathetic, so I ended up on your left at eau rouge and I just tried to avoid crashing with you... but then I ended up touching with him :(
Pathetic how? Did i drift infront of you? I know it was a slow exit as was trying to keep to my side of the track being the inside.
Joe: I was just joking. I meant it was slower then mine :)
Hah yes. Just trying to keep to the inside as much as i could :) on another note I beat your pb on the practise server last night ;)
Duly noticed earlier this afternoon ;) (though I must say I did not check the grip ;)
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Shameless: I read your post twice and I am still not sure who you are criticizing. Maybe me, but in my case there was no car control issue, nor anything I could do whatsoever after the first touch with Diehard. Maybe others behind me and you---yes, I am sure we can all be more careful, but there is going to be some situation like this any now and then.
As for the restart: I don't know,... I don't mind too much. It was boring to be 2 minutes down, but it is the price you pay for a lap 1 crash. It happens in real life, it happens here. I don't think Wally is doing anything wrong there.
I'm not pointing fingers really at anyone, it was more of a general quality of racing. And sorry 2 cars rolling backwards across a track from one side to the other could have braked. I honestly see no excuse for a car to roll anywhere if there is no brake failure, it's pure driver error. Accidents happen, it's what's happening directly after that is the main issue. Even when people spin of their own accord when there are cars coming at them fast. It's making the racing less safer than it should be if people were more aware of what's coming. Are people still not using a track map or something?
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Shameless: I read your post twice and I am still not sure who you are criticizing. Maybe me, but in my case there was no car control issue, nor anything I could do whatsoever after the first touch with Diehard. Maybe others behind me and you---yes, I am sure we can all be more careful, but there is going to be some situation like this any now and then.
As for the restart: I don't know,... I don't mind too much. It was boring to be 2 minutes down, but it is the price you pay for a lap 1 crash. It happens in real life, it happens here. I don't think Wally is doing anything wrong there.
I'm not pointing fingers really at anyone, it was more of a general quality of racing. And sorry 2 cars rolling backwards across a track from one side to the other could have braked. I honestly see no excuse for a car to roll anywhere if there is no brake failure, it's pure driver error. Accidents happen, it's what's happening directly after that is the main issue. Even when people spin of their own accord when there are cars coming at them fast. It's making the racing less safer than it should be if people were more aware of what's coming. Are people still not using a track map or something?
Maybe you've just been unlucky. I had 3 or 4 people spin infront of me in race 2 and it was fairly predictable and i could easily avoid them. I'm sure everyone is doing all they can not to get on the way.
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Shameless: I read your post twice and I am still not sure who you are criticizing. Maybe me, but in my case there was no car control issue, nor anything I could do whatsoever after the first touch with Diehard. Maybe others behind me and you---yes, I am sure we can all be more careful, but there is going to be some situation like this any now and then.
As for the restart: I don't know,... I don't mind too much. It was boring to be 2 minutes down, but it is the price you pay for a lap 1 crash. It happens in real life, it happens here. I don't think Wally is doing anything wrong there.
I'm not pointing fingers really at anyone, it was more of a general quality of racing. And sorry 2 cars rolling backwards across a track from one side to the other could have braked. I honestly see no excuse for a car to roll anywhere if there is no brake failure, it's pure driver error. Accidents happen, it's what's happening directly after that is the main issue. Even when people spin of their own accord when there are cars coming at them fast. It's making the racing less safer than it should be if people were more aware of what's coming. Are people still not using a track map or something?
Ok, now I see what you mean. I can't talk about the specific episode, because I did not see the replay from your car. I know sometimes I get a bit annoyed when people in quali get off the track and rejoin in front of you (today one car did that and it was its outlap, so I was quite buffled by it). So yes: I agree with you in principle. But I think we need to be constructive and talk to each other to get better. I feel I learned a lot in these two years---I was causing many more accidents at the beginning, and of course I never meant to. And at least in the front pack I have to say the last two seasons have been very very clean. Actually impressively so, if I think of my first two seasons. So there is hope ;)
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A good little battle with wally at the end. Given another lap i think I'd have got you ;)
That was great pressure. I think you would have - I was starting to lose a bit of confidence in my tyres by the end. Your tyres were one lap fresher than mine.
For race 1 I heard Wally ask about a restart so I pulled over and the rest of the field pass me only to find out it wasn't going to happen, it should have.
Nope, that wasn't me. This is why I have had the longstanding rule of no restarts on Tuesday night races: it makes there be more at stake. You can't just "reset" and start again. There's more tension, more pressure, more emotion even, which is all part of racing. Not every race is a good race - and that makes the good races all the sweeter. Racing happens between your ears as well as between rubber and road. If you've been in a big crash, you can get your head together, knuckle down and keep racing. You don't see the Supercars drivers deciding to pack up and go home if they've had a crash in race 1.
Knowing there's no restarts also makes people a little more careful, in general. Everyone drove like angels in race 2 :)
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I got cleaned up with Grat's airborne car coming through my windscreen in race 1, but made repairs when I pitted, and ended up climbing from 14th after the crash to 8th by the end. I had some good chases in that race, chasing down both Simone and Freezer (who was visibly damaged) after I pitted, making passes on them both.
In race 2, I had lots of good battles with the likes of Nith, ab156 and Joe. Phil came out of the pits and ended up just behind me, but I stuffed up my line into Eau Rouge and had to lift a little to correct my line, which allowed Phil to easily pass me on the straight. Then on lap 8 I had a lose coming up from Eau Rouge when I was in 3rd spot, and spun into the wall, dropping a couple of spots I had gained and copping a little damage. I had a great chase of ab156 over a couple of laps, finally passing him with an inside move. Then at the end of the race, Joe was pressuring me, right behind me, but I was able to hang on to finish 0.29 secs in front of him. Race 2 was my best result for the season so far, with a 4th.
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For race 1 I heard Wally ask about a restart so I pulled over and the rest of the field pass me only to find out it wasn't going to happen, it should have.
Nope, that wasn't me. This is why I have had the longstanding rule of no restarts on Tuesday night races: it makes there be more at stake. You can't just "reset" and start again. There's more tension, more pressure, more emotion even, which is all part of racing. Not every race is a good race - and that makes the good races all the sweeter. Racing happens between your ears as well as between rubber and road. If you've been in a big crash, you can get your head together, knuckle down and keep racing. You don't see the Supercars drivers deciding to pack up and go home if they've had a crash in race 1.
Knowing there's no restarts also makes people a little more careful, in general. Everyone drove like angels in race 2 :)
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If it wasn't you I heard someone say it and I thought it was strange. I'm all for no restarts on tuesday nights. My teamspeak sound died straight after so couldn't ask.
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Ok, now I see what you mean. I can't talk about the specific episode, because I did not see the replay from your car. I know sometimes I get a bit annoyed when people in quali get off the track and rejoin in front of you (today one car did that and it was its outlap, so I was quite buffled by it). So yes: I agree with you in principle. But I think we need to be constructive and talk to each other to get better. I feel I learned a lot in these two years---I was causing many more accidents at the beginning, and of course I never meant to. And at least in the front pack I have to say the last two seasons have been very very clean. Actually impressively so, if I think of my first two seasons. So there is hope ;)
We all get annoyed. I still believe that a lot of the incidents and lack of racing etiquette seems to revolve around sprint races. There are plenty of incidents in qualifying. I've been tailgated and shoved off the track during a hotlap because someone wasn't thinking, people come off and then re enter right in front of me and so on. I know I've taken out Rob without meaning to and we can all misjudge things. I'm just asking for a little more awareness and people to learn what to do during an accident to control their cars better. It looks like desperation and carelessness, something that should not really exist in a tuesday night league race.
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Race 1 started well, and I did okay. Avoided the carnage.
Race 2 started better and by lap 4 I was feeling great, hitting good lines with a decent enough pace.
By Lap 4.5 I touched a ripple strip and smacked a wall, lap 5.1 I screwed Eau Rouge and did it again.
Rest of it was Meh.
The End
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....This is why I have had the longstanding rule of no restarts on Tuesday night races....
That's the first of heard of it, unless I am aware and merely forgotten, however I would swear in a court of law that we have had restarts before?
In real life this race would have been red flagged. ffs
If I was aware of said rule I would simply be bummed at another ruined race, but still MOST of the field got screwed here. ffs
Maybe the rule is clearly stated somewhere but many a race where Wally was admin have had restarts so I feel any confusion is reasonable.
The reason I am Fucking pissed is this is the first time on any and all of our races that I've felt a restart was needed, most times shit happens, I get spun out I continue on, that's life as you said, but >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Because it's been a longstanding rule, it's probably not in writing anywhere recently. My bad - but I hope it's now clear.
We've had restarts just in fun races on Tuesday nights between seasons. I'll also have a restart if something's technically screwed up, like the grid is completely wrong and can be fixed, for example, but not for racing accidents, which are all part of racing.
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Wally has only ever restarted because of technical issues causing someone to miss the start or server caused havoc.
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If it's a practice race.
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....This is why I have had the longstanding rule of no restarts on Tuesday night races....
That's the first of heard of it, unless I am aware and merely forgotten, however I would swear in a court of law that we have had restarts before?
In real life this race would have been red flagged. ffs
If I was aware of said rule I would simply be bummed at another ruined race, but still MOST of the field got screwed here. ffs
Maybe the rule is clearly stated somewhere but many a race where Wally was admin have had restarts so I feel any confusion is reasonable.
The reason I am Fucking pissed is this is the first time on any and all of our races that I've felt a restart was needed, most times shit happens, I get spun out I continue on, that's life as you said, but >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Personally I don't care about restarting or not. But it should be said in Wally's defense that in real life those races are restarted because the track is full of what remains of the cars. Were it to be possible to just get all the cars back to pits by pressing ESC it would probably be it.
PS: did not notice your epicurean signature before.
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....If it's a practice race.
Ah ha! That reminds me of an idea of mine, as follows:
During Practice the server should be, at suitable intervals, cycled to a Race so everybody gets to practice that. i.e. a start. Half a lap or so and cycle back to practice.
We spend X amount of hours on the Practice server during the week then an hour on race night followed by twenty minutes of qualifying then straight to the race where an incident such as tonight's throws all that preparation and expectations out the window.
"train of thought,,, must improve laptime, tweak springs, dampers, pressures, wings, brake points, et al . qualified well now concentrate on a good start and...... oh fuck where do I brake for the first corner? I've never been here going so slow before and how do I know when that car in front is going to brake? oh shit! crash!!,,,end thinking"
It should also be good practice for, anyone who chooses, to also do this offline as well, so as to get familiar with braking points from various grid positions and perhaps how to run side by side for the first part of the lap.
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After not being able to get on until there was 2 minutes left in quali I was happy with my Race 1 as I was fairly consistent especially considering the lack of practice and even managed to have a couple of good battles. Was really disappointed to not be able to get back in for Race 2 :(
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....If it's a practice race.
Ah ha! That reminds me of an idea of mine, as follows:
During Practice the server should be, at suitable intervals, cycled to a Race so everybody gets to practice that. i.e. a start. Half a lap or so and cycle back to practice.
We spend X amount of hours on the Practice server during the week then an hour on race night followed by twenty minutes of qualifying then straight to the race where an incident such as tonight's throws all that preparation and expectations out the window.
"train of thought,,, must improve laptime, tweak springs, dampers, pressures, wings, brake points, et al . qualified well now concentrate on a good start and...... oh fuck where do I brake for the first corner? I've never been here going so slow before and how do I know when that car in front is going to brake? oh shit! crash!!,,,end thinking"
It should also be good practice for, anyone who chooses, to also do this offline as well, so as to get familiar with braking points from various grid positions and perhaps how to run side by side for the first part of the lap.
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I understand your points, but really, that's part of racing. You don't get practice starts in real racing either.
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Anyone got a video of the race 1 start should be interesting viewing. ;D
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....practice starts in real racing either.
Perhaps they should, seeing as how often the first corner of a race is a fustercluck. Mostly politics but also the exigencies of real life prevent this from happening but as a Sim does not need to, nor necessarily, follow real life I propose such a policy could help.
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Anyone got a video of the race 1 start should be interesting viewing. ;D
+1
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Anyone got a video of the race 1 start should be interesting viewing. ;D
It is. I doubt I'll have time these days. But if I do, I'll make one.
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....If it's a practice race.
During Practice the server should be, at suitable intervals, cycled to a Race so everybody gets to practice that. i.e. a start. Half a lap or so and cycle back to practice.
Just vote to skip the session. Or use the admin commands as the admin password is the regular xgn password. You can do the following in the chat window:
/admin putpasswordhere
/next_session
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/restart_session
I use the long practice session to figure out setup and work on getting quick. It would be annoying if it were a short session. I then skip to to race and go a couple of full length races to figure out tyre strategy, when to pit and work in consistency.
EDIT: Or did I misunderstand and you mean the practice we have right before the race?
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Could somebody upload a race 2 replay pleeease. Forgot to save it.
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....If it's a practice race.
Ah ha! That reminds me of an idea of mine, as follows:
During Practice the server should be, at suitable intervals, cycled to a Race so everybody gets to practice that. i.e. a start. Half a lap or so and cycle back to practice.
We spend X amount of hours on the Practice server during the week then an hour on race night followed by twenty minutes of qualifying then straight to the race where an incident such as tonight's throws all that preparation and expectations out the window.
"train of thought,,, must improve laptime, tweak springs, dampers, pressures, wings, brake points, et al . qualified well now concentrate on a good start and...... oh fuck where do I brake for the first corner? I've never been here going so slow before and how do I know when that car in front is going to brake? oh shit! crash!!,,,end thinking"
It should also be good practice for, anyone who chooses, to also do this offline as well, so as to get familiar with braking points from various grid positions and perhaps how to run side by side for the first part of the lap.
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It's not a bad idea. Especially for notorious tracks like Spa and Monza, where there are virtually always accidents.
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Come and race Thursdays , we love restarts and try for as many as possible :)
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....did I misunderstand and you mean the practice we have right before the race?
I meant both, on and offline, Practice server and Race night, it can only help.
But my main idea was to have this on Race night as offline the AI suck and doing it solo online, while useful, misses out on all variables that make the first lap tricky. I do do practice starts on the night, to check first gear and clutch point etc. And god I nearly had a heart attack last week when I qualified on pole. "'Where and how do I brake for the first corner on cold tyres with 27 other drivers nearly as clueless as me right up my arse?'"
It is problematic that AC takes so long to count down to the race.
PS: Stupid spellcheck thinks I spelt 'tyres' and 'arse' incorrectly!
PPS: :) I said 'do do' ;D
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Completely off pace and beyond at SPA.Historically i am not that fast but at SPA i am really not that good.I have to say that i spent some time in the garage with the settings and trying to elevate this car to higher standard but to no avail,,, :-X
In practice i even almost touched the 2.26 but during the race i never went into the 27s,,,,meh!!! Not to talk about my chronic lack of speed in the straights,incredible i have to really figuring out what was wrong.In the first race i think doob touched me and i ended hitting the guard rail and i think the car was a bit damage,but then in the second race the lack of speed was still there so i really think my driving skills are fading away..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
The second race was not good at all,few mistakes and at this level i cant afford them,end of the story,Lucky to collect a 10th position,though,, ;D ;D
Good fun!!
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Completely off pace and beyond at SPA.Historically i am not that fast but at SPA i am really not that good.I have to say that i spent some time in the garage with the settings and trying to elevate this car to higher standard but to no avail,,, :-X
In practice i even almost touched the 2.26 but during the race i never went into the 27s,,,,meh!!! Not to talk about my chronic lack of speed in the straights,incredible i have to really figuring out what was wrong.In the first race i think doob touched me and i ended hitting the guard rail and i think the car was a bit damage,but then in the second race the lack of speed was still there so i really think my driving skills are fading away..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
The second race was not good at all,few mistakes and at this level i cant afford them,end of the story,Lucky to collect a 10th position,though,, ;D ;D
Good fun!!
Have you checked that your throttle pedal is actually reaching 100%? It might be a calibration issue.
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In race 2, RussG ran into the back of Simone, causing him to lose 2 spots, so gets 60kg penalty ballast for the next round.
I would like to put my case as to why I think this penalty is rather harsh.
Simone and I were fighting over position. Simone cut close across the front of me as I went to the apex. At the corner exit I was starting to apply power (as you do). Simone began applying power, but then released the accelerator, slowing down, then I bumped him. The slightest of bumps. We were racing hard and close and I believe it was a racing incident.
I will accept the decision of the stewards.
In race 1 I managed to pick my way through the carnage on lap 1, and found myself in a good position, then kept consistent and clean and finished 6th.
Race 2, I got shuffled back to P19 on lap 1. I had a fun race with some great battles (Mael, nith) along the way as I clawed my way back up to finish 6th again :)
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Completely off pace and beyond at SPA.Historically i am not that fast but at SPA i am really not that good.I have to say that i spent some time in the garage with the settings and trying to elevate this car to higher standard but to no avail,,, :-X
In practice i even almost touched the 2.26 but during the race i never went into the 27s,,,,meh!!! Not to talk about my chronic lack of speed in the straights,incredible i have to really figuring out what was wrong.In the first race i think doob touched me and i ended hitting the guard rail and i think the car was a bit damage,but then in the second race the lack of speed was still there so i really think my driving skills are fading away..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
The second race was not good at all,few mistakes and at this level i cant afford them,end of the story,Lucky to collect a 10th position,though,, ;D ;D
Good fun!!
Have you checked that your throttle pedal is actually reaching 100%? It might be a calibration issue.
WALLY!!!!!!!! WALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.......it was the bloody calibration,10% shorter.Unplug and plug the usb and i am ready this time,,,,,,,,,,,,,TO KICK YOUR ARSEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
HEY Wally.......thx for the tip ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
.......and thats why i have not won the race,,,,,,, ::) ::) ::)
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Completely off pace and beyond at SPA.Historically i am not that fast but at SPA i am really not that good.I have to say that i spent some time in the garage with the settings and trying to elevate this car to higher standard but to no avail,,, :-X
In practice i even almost touched the 2.26 but during the race i never went into the 27s,,,,meh!!! Not to talk about my chronic lack of speed in the straights,incredible i have to really figuring out what was wrong.In the first race i think doob touched me and i ended hitting the guard rail and i think the car was a bit damage,but then in the second race the lack of speed was still there so i really think my driving skills are fading away..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
The second race was not good at all,few mistakes and at this level i cant afford them,end of the story,Lucky to collect a 10th position,though,, ;D ;D
Good fun!!
Have you checked that your throttle pedal is actually reaching 100%? It might be a calibration issue.
Nah.... he's just not that fast . . :) :) :)
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Well after some technical issues I arrived with about 6 minutes of qual to go but surprisingly managed to grab 7th.
R1: The big crash! From my perspective the sight of flying cars up ahead means you lift off heavily (as I'm sure you would in real life). However in doing so I was heavily rear ended no less than three times!! Initially I thought the car would surely be stuffed but despite the smashed screen and broken wings I was still able to set decent times so I pushed on. Managed to get home 9th with Wally chasing me down and passing in the dying laps.
R2: Had a spin exiting turn 1 at the start of the second lap which put me down to 14th. Not long after I found myself at the downhill double left handers with Seanus re entering and assuming the racing line right in front of me at half my speed. I attempted to swing around the outside of him but clipped a big kerb which bounced me in the air and spun me. From there dead last was not much fun....
Well done to team mate Mael for a good result!
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R1: The big crash! From my perspective the sight of flying cars up ahead means you lift off heavily (as I'm sure you would in real life). However in doing so I was heavily rear ended no less than three times!! Initially I thought the car would surely be stuffed but despite the smashed screen and broken wings I was still able to set decent times so I pushed on.
This is what youd expect but as this video shows its not just a sim racing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=eH9lng9Zu5Q
I will be driving this road soon and hoping for bad weather to bring snow to the mountains just not so much fun to drive in. ??? So far the driving has been in pretty good weather here so the fresh snow levels have kind of sucked lol. Will be at lake louise tomorrow but the drive wont be much like the mod track in AC I think lol.
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R1: The big crash! From my perspective the sight of flying cars up ahead means you lift off heavily (as I'm sure you would in real life). However in doing so I was heavily rear ended no less than three times!! Initially I thought the car would surely be stuffed but despite the smashed screen and broken wings I was still able to set decent times so I pushed on.
This is what youd expect but as this video shows its not just a sim racing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=eH9lng9Zu5Q (https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=eH9lng9Zu5Q)
I will be driving this road soon and hoping for bad weather to bring snow to the mountains just not so much fun to drive in. ??? So far the driving has been in pretty good weather here so the fresh snow levels have kind of sucked lol. Will be at lake louise tomorrow but the drive wont be much like the mod track in AC I think lol.
Where were the yellow flags?!?!
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
Cheers buddy! I want to figure out how I made up 12 places in 12 laps, very unlike me 8)
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Race 1
Never thought I'd say this but I qualified too well.
Exit Radillion to see grat airborne and no time to react, except lock-it-down and wait for the impacts to stop.
Thought I could fix the damage and mediums might last but couldn't change PitConfig, so I was stuck with getting softs. (luckily stuck with fixing aero & susp. damage, though that cost an extra 10sec in the stop)
Drove a very damaged car for 7 laps (slowly) then raced the rest of the way home.
Race 2
No damage this time, PitConfig played nice, the graphics didn't.
Had a 2 sec screen freeze at Stavelot which almost put me into the wall but I only lost about 5-6 positions waiting for a safe re-entry.
Finished in 10th, where I started.
I would normally call this a shit night but after missing so many weeks, I was just glad to be back. 8)
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
Don't suppose you have race 1 as well pls?
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
Don't suppose you have race 1 as well pls?
I do... but let me see if I can do this fast...
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
Don't suppose you have race 1 as well pls?
I do... but let me see if I can do this fast...
There you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5old5ku0khyv7i/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131213007?dl=0
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Watching the race 2 replay i think it's easily the best race I've ever had. Plenty of action and close racing and keeping it consistant and quick allowing me to close gaps.
Lap 1 went from 17th to 19th so very happy finishing 5th. I did a highlights video containing most of lap 1 then just the fun parts.
[youtube]xUguuSdQKXk[/youtube]
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@Joe: the race 2 replay file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbh5lvc7n75f58c/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131221652?dl=0
Cheers!
Don't suppose you have race 1 as well pls?
I do... but let me see if I can do this fast...
There you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5old5ku0khyv7i/ks_praga_r1%40spa-spa_osrw_20170131213007?dl=0
Just a tip, if you zip/7zip the replay files they shrink down massively.
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Watching the race 2 replay i think it's easily the best race I've ever had. Plenty of action and close racing and keeping it consistant and quick allowing me to close gaps.
Lap 1 went from 17th to 19th so very happy finishing 5th. I did a highlights video containing most of lap 1 then just the fun parts.
[youtube]xUguuSdQKXk[/youtube]
Nice one. Do you race with those offscreen markers, or with helicorsa?
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Watching the race 2 replay i think it's easily the best race I've ever had. Plenty of action and close racing and keeping it consistant and quick allowing me to close gaps.
Lap 1 went from 17th to 19th so very happy finishing 5th. I did a highlights video containing most of lap 1 then just the fun parts.
[youtube]xUguuSdQKXk[/youtube]
Nice one. Do you race with those offscreen markers, or with helicorsa?
Helicorsa, but the FOV in the video reminds me how hard having a single screen was. Could see way more during the race. I tried playing around with the F5 camera in the replay to show some of the racing better but I had issues where the sound wouldn't work with it.
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Nice Joe but I especially liked Dave O's defensive driving just after Eau Rouge lap 1, taking a leaf out of the Verstappen book of defense ;D
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Nice Joe but I especially liked Dave O's defensive driving just after Eau Rouge lap 1, taking a leaf out of the Verstappen book of defense ;D
Not quite convinced he knew I was there ;D
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God knows for how long i had the throttle out of tune.....i am spewing :-\
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God knows for how long i had the throttle out of tune.....i am spewing :-\
Since it happened to me i keep the pedal app open. It happens every now and then and just need to replug the pedals.
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God knows for how long i had the throttle out of tune.....i am spewing :-\
Since it happened to me i keep the pedal app open. It happens every now and then and just need to replug the pedals.
yes joe now i keep the pedals app open as well