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Title: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 02, 2017, 07:56:52 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/s16r7-porsche-gt3-cup-at-new-jersey.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Marty   66
Phil.8   62
Matthew111   61
Diehard   57
Shayne   55
Mael   53
Grat   52
Joe   49
Freezer   47
Keith   46
Slow_As   42
Jeremy   25
Wally   23
Doobs   19
Seanus   0
Cursed   0
Bacchulum   0
AJ   0
Gratulin   0

Congratulations to Marty for the clean sweep of pole, 2 race wins and the round win.

Lap 1 Penalties
None.
Because my game crashed, I have no replay of race 2.

Championship Podium - congratulation to season champion, Marty
1. Marty, 389
2. Phil.8, 376
3. Diehard, 345


Team Championship - Maki Engineering took 2nd place in the final round
1. Krahl Racing (Phil and Joe), 647
2. Maki Engineering (Mael and Freezer), 536
3. Infinity + 1 (Shayne and Seanus), 508
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: AJ on May 02, 2017, 08:56:10 PM
Sorry guys, everything was working 100% fine until the last turn of lap 1 when my connection just completely died. Sorry if I took anybody out.

Fingers cross for Optus's network upgrades in my area next Tuesday, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 02, 2017, 10:04:10 PM
Sorry Jeremy! Ruined your race twice. So sorry. I had used all my neurons in race 1.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on May 02, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Sorry guys, everything was working 100% fine until the last turn of lap 1 when my connection just completely died. Sorry if I took anybody out.

Fingers cross for Optus's network upgrades in my area next Tuesday, but I'm not holding my breath.
Yep. Wiped me out completely...
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Slow_As on May 02, 2017, 10:07:55 PM
For my performance tonight... no comment - worst races ever...

Car felt like it was qualifying trim whole race.......

I did manage to mow most of the lawns.... see em.... they were immaculate...
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on May 02, 2017, 10:14:33 PM
My night was pretty meh.... I only managed 5-10 laps of practice before tonight and I usually need a lot more to be competitive.

I was surprised qualifying 5th and kept that position for 11 laps opening a gap to the pack behind buy many mistakes allowed them to catch up then going off they all went by loosing 4 or 5 positions. Was on the back of Mael for a while but more mistakes let the pack get away and that was that.

Second race going okay getting past a few people who crashed out but more mistakes let Mael by who was then ahead by around 6 seconds with that gap staying consistent until nearly the end. I say nearly the end because on the final lap I saw Mael cut, and in my head I wondered if maybe he'd get a penalty. That lack on concentration sent me sideways getting two corners in one go and giving me a 10 second penalty. I thought I was okay because last I checked Freezer was around 15 seconds behind me, but no, I gave it too much throttle out of the final turn sending me spinning and then freezer finishing just a couple of seconds behind so I lost the place  :o
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: AJ on May 02, 2017, 10:24:02 PM
Sorry guys, everything was working 100% fine until the last turn of lap 1 when my connection just completely died. Sorry if I took anybody out.

Fingers cross for Optus's network upgrades in my area next Tuesday, but I'm not holding my breath.
Yep. Wiped me out completely...

Sorry mate  :'(
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 02, 2017, 10:38:35 PM
Results in 1st post.

Marty was too good this season, leading the standings from round 1. Phil put in a good fight, in 2nd place the whole season.

And here's the usual post-season stats:

Most wins: Marty, 5
Most podiums: Marty and Phil, 9
Most poles: Marty, 3
Best average finish: Marty, 2.2
Most fastest laps: Marty, 6
Most Consistent: Diehard, Jeremy, Kcender87, Phil, 2
Hunter: Marty, 4 (must be from chasing lapped traffic!)
Hunted: Matthew, 3
Busiest: Diehard, nith, Shayne, 2
Loneliest: Doobs, Slow_As, 2
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 02, 2017, 10:47:42 PM
@Wally: I watched the replay of race 2. You should give me a 5 points penalty or something like that. I did not do anything uber-bad, but at t4 Jeremy had the right of closing the line (the no-closing rule applies only to t1 and t2, as far as I know) and I therefore went for a gap that was not there anymore. It is a bit of a side effect of the t1-t2 rule, but I should definitely take all the blame.

Huge apologies again to Jeremy! My only consolation is that I was always very very clean all the season, so I can tell myself that I gave it my best shot and it was just once in a while fuck-up.

As for the season... as I said over TS: thank you Wally. Amazing season! Great innovations (loved the cold tyres!) and all great races. My only regret is having missed too many of them!
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on May 02, 2017, 10:48:51 PM
Second race going okay getting past a few people who crashed out but more mistakes let Mael by who was then ahead by around 6 seconds with that gap staying consistent until nearly the end. I say nearly the end because on the final lap I saw Mael cut, and in my head I wondered if maybe he'd get a penalty. That lack on concentration sent me sideways getting two corners in one go and giving me a 10 second penalty. I thought I was okay because last I checked Freezer was around 15 seconds behind me, but no, I gave it too much throttle out of the final turn sending me spinning and then freezer finishing just a couple of seconds behind so I lost the place  :o

Thats funny 'Joe ;D  Luckily I only got one cut for the race but I was convinced one of the leaders was going to get a cut, waited for it the whole race. But it never came. I am please to have assisted Freezer though.

This race penalized any loss of concentration severely as it was impossible to gain any significant time on ones competitors, race 2 I placed half a wheel on the dirt which caused a instant 360  ;D  Never was quick enough to pass Shayne in race 1 or 2 in any case, well driven Shayne.

Team Maki had a good race, second place in the team competition is better than I thought possible. Great work Freezer!
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 02, 2017, 10:50:18 PM
Hunter: Marty, 4 (must be from chasing lapped traffic!)

It wasn't an easy season to make passes in, was some very close times between the top 10 or so most rounds. I didn't win many races I didn't have the lead exiting t1, had some good battles chasing a few guys through the season, had Phil and Matthew hot on my tail in quite a few rounds.

These cars had a pretty strong draft effect but were also prone to aero push when close into corners so it made it hard to get into position for a pass if the guy ahead didn't make a mistake.

Thanks all for another fun season and Wally for all his efforts again.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 02, 2017, 10:51:12 PM
In race 1, it ended up being relatively lonely once we settled down, but Keith was in my mirrors the whole time. I made a mistake with a lapse of concentration, and Keith passed on lap 26, only to return the favour when he ran wide and let me past again.

In race 2, it was Joe and Freezer applying the early pressure in my mirrors, with a growing gap to Shayne in front of me. Joe and Freezer held each other up a bit, letting me open up a gap. Freezer had a spin behind me, relieving a little of the pressure. I spun myself a little later, losing 2 spots to Mael and Joe, then my frickin' game grashed - acs.exe has stopped working. I jumped back in to spectate, but stupid me - I should have put in more laps to reach 21 laps and be qualified as a finisher to get any points. That might have cost me one place on the standings. Freezer can thank me later.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on May 02, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
In race 1, it ended up being relatively lonely once we settled down, but Keith was in my mirrors the whole time. I made a mistake with a lapse of concentration, and Keith passed on lap 26, only to return the favour when he ran wide and let me past again.

In race 2, it was Joe and Freezer applying the early pressure in my mirrors, with a growing gap to Shayne in front of me. Joe and Freezer held each other up a bit, letting me open up a gap. Freezer had a spin behind me, relieving a little of the pressure. I spun myself a little later, losing 2 spots to Mael and Joe, then my frickin' game grashed - acs.exe has stopped working. I jumped back in to spectate, but stupid me - I should have put in more laps to reach 21 laps and be qualified as a finisher to get any points. That might have cost me one place on the standings. Freezer can thank me later.
No I will thank you now.............Thanks Wally :) :)
p.s. bad luck!
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on May 02, 2017, 10:58:03 PM
As for my night I had pretty good pace in a tight field.  Started next to team mate Mael but at the end of the first lap a small lift due to cold tyres saw him go by.  I followed for many laps but the overall story of my night was pretty quick..... but the odd small slip kept hampering my progress, which kind of sucked.  Still fun though and I enjoyed this little roller coaster track!
Overall, a great season.  Mael drove very well for team Maki.  I had my moments and despite me missing a night we came home 2nd.
Thanks as always to Wally :)
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: diehard on May 03, 2017, 08:35:48 AM
Great Race with Shayne last night had him on my ass for both races, intense race.
Really enjoyed that track was nice and flowing, had a slight issue with the brake pedal needing re-calibration only went to 68% brake force, only noticed after the races, luckily not too many heavy braking zones on the track.

Thanks to Wally for organizing the season and everyone showing up, great fun.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 03, 2017, 08:42:41 AM
@Wally: I watched the replay of race 2. You should give me a 5 points penalty or something like that. I did not do anything uber-bad, but at t4 Jeremy had the right of closing the line (the no-closing rule applies only to t1 and t2, as far as I know) and I therefore went for a gap that was not there anymore. It is a bit of a side effect of the t1-t2 rule, but I should definitely take all the blame.

Huge apologies again to Jeremy! My only consolation is that I was always very very clean all the season, so I can tell myself that I gave it my best shot and it was just once in a while fuck-up.

As for the season... as I said over TS: thank you Wally. Amazing season! Great innovations (loved the cold tyres!) and all great races. My only regret is having missed too many of them!
C'mon, Wally... just trust me and give me a 5 points penalty. ;)
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 03, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
OK, I'll carry the penalty over to the start of the next season :)
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Shayne on May 03, 2017, 09:17:32 AM
Great Race with Shayne last night had him on my ass for both races, intense race.
Really enjoyed that track was nice and flowing, had a slight issue with the brake pedal needing re-calibration only went to 68% brake force, only noticed after the races, luckily not too many heavy braking zones on the track.

Thanks to Wally for organizing the season and everyone showing up, great fun.

Yes, it was a great night. I was behind you all night waiting for you to make a mistake so I could grab another position. It just didn't happen, you kept it on track and under control even with me behind you all race, you didn't fault. Well done Diehard. Also, good racing by Mael! Most of the night I had Mael right behind me aswell. That first race had us 3 within 2sec pretty much the entire race.
Race 2 was a bit different, the gaps openned up a bit more, I was still sitting close to Diehard for most of the race, with a couple laps to go I had my left rear go offtrack on the exit of T1 and the car instantly spun around on me. I ended up hitting the inside wall with the back of the car. I got going again quickly but Diehard was now something like 6-8 seconds up the road and that fight was over but I now had Mael only a couple seconds behind me and with the damaged rear I found it very hard to find a balance of speed and control. Managed to just keep it in front of Mael at the end of Race 2.
I knew every position in front of Mael and/or Freezer was needed as they were the team that was fighting my team for position. I had no idea last night if Seanus was doing well or if he was even in the race, but you did well this season too! We scored a 3rd place!!!

Thanks Wally for all you do to keep the show going. It's been a great season!
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 03, 2017, 09:31:16 AM
@Wally: I watched the replay of race 2. You should give me a 5 points penalty or something like that. I did not do anything uber-bad, but at t4 Jeremy had the right of closing the line (the no-closing rule applies only to t1 and t2, as far as I know) and I therefore went for a gap that was not there anymore. It is a bit of a side effect of the t1-t2 rule, but I should definitely take all the blame.

I checked the replay last night, there wasnt any overlap with Grat being a fair way back so I dont think Jeremy had any need to leave room. Cold tyres the tough thing is that people will run fairly different pace just trying to make sure they stay on track. Following is hard as this can easily catch you out but rear ending someone would always be 100% fault of the car behind.

I was thinking this was likely to happen to me t1 at both starts. Being on the inside with cold tyres I needed to enter very slow to not run wide on exit so I braked and just hoped those behind would also. Quite often contact comes from a few cars back in the train with leaders slowing more this gets even slower further back. The last cars off the grid may be almost at walking pace around some corners like Monza t1 for example which is why that causes so much trouble at most starts.

Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on May 03, 2017, 10:31:20 AM
Race 1: It was fun till I got a phone call. I was just a little off the pace rather then a lot, but couldn't put faster laps together consistently. I eventually got into 1:02's but only a one off lap.

Race 2: I lost interest after the race one phone call and after a lap 1 spin, gave up. I had no interest in running last half a lap down with no chance of recovery in cars I don't particularly like, although the Porsche were better than any other Uber we've been driving for the last few seasons.

Still, the season overall was an enjoyable way to spend a Tuesday evening. Thanks for doing the business Wally, and thanks to fellow competitors. As far as the driving is concerned it's probably the cleanest league I've raced in.

Darren
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 03, 2017, 06:50:17 PM
OK, I'll carry the penalty over to the start of the next season :)
That's much harsher than I thought... But if that's the decision, I shall take it.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 03, 2017, 06:57:34 PM
@Wally: I watched the replay of race 2. You should give me a 5 points penalty or something like that. I did not do anything uber-bad, but at t4 Jeremy had the right of closing the line (the no-closing rule applies only to t1 and t2, as far as I know) and I therefore went for a gap that was not there anymore. It is a bit of a side effect of the t1-t2 rule, but I should definitely take all the blame.

I checked the replay last night, there wasnt any overlap with Grat being a fair way back so I dont think Jeremy had any need to leave room. Cold tyres the tough thing is that people will run fairly different pace just trying to make sure they stay on track. Following is hard as this can easily catch you out but rear ending someone would always be 100% fault of the car behind.

I was thinking this was likely to happen to me t1 at both starts. Being on the inside with cold tyres I needed to enter very slow to not run wide on exit so I braked and just hoped those behind would also. Quite often contact comes from a few cars back in the train with leaders slowing more this gets even slower further back. The last cars off the grid may be almost at walking pace around some corners like Monza t1 for example which is why that causes so much trouble at most starts.
Agreed, but I think we have been pretty good all season, even with cold tyres and a car that likes to move about quite a bit. Last night it was my lack of concentration only. Race 1 we were all absolutely clean and respectful, but not giving up easy either. I, for example, exiting t1 had passed Matthew and saw a little space to attack Phil. Thought about it, found myself a bit tangled with Matthew, and decided to give him space and lift off a sec. He kept the right foot down and put himself in the space leaving me just enough room on the outside, but not a cm more. He took the right space and got the position back. I think it's a perfect example of tough but very good racing from him.

Unfortunately in race 2 everybody else did the same again, but I lost my measures for a split second and fucked it up. :(
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: marty on May 03, 2017, 10:07:44 PM
Yes the racing has been pretty good all season, I did nearly the same thing as you in race 2 at Magione, accidents will happen and its not like anyone is doing it regularly or on purpose that I have seen.

You need to take some chances but obviously ones you think you have a good chance of pulling off. The one I did at Magione was extra frustrating as I wasnt even considering a pass just missjudged the car ahead.
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 03, 2017, 10:55:53 PM
OK, I'll carry the penalty over to the start of the next season :)
That's much harsher than I thought... But if that's the decision, I shall take it.
You do realise I'm joking, right? :)
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on May 03, 2017, 11:12:25 PM
OK, I'll carry the penalty over to the start of the next season :)
That's much harsher than I thought... But if that's the decision, I shall take it.
You do realise I'm joking, right? :)
No. Never suspected you had a sense of humor. Now I'll have to rethink everything... ;)
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Slow_As on May 04, 2017, 07:01:56 PM
Thanks all - especially Wally - for putting the season on. Looking forward to the next one already.

thanks again
Title: Re: S16R7: New Jersey Motorsports Park Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on May 04, 2017, 09:04:15 PM
Thanks all - especially Wally - for putting the season on. Looking forward to the next one already.

thanks again
Thanks :)
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