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Title: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 02, 2014, 11:21:59 PM
Car Allocations

 
DriverOld CarNew Car
InsomniacP4/5 CompetizioneBMW M3 GT2
GrubbetBMW M3 GT2BMW M3 GT2
Rob [Team MRT]Mercedes SLS GT3Ferrari 458 GT2
RPMMcLaren MP4-12C GT3BMW M3 GT2
PhilP4/5 CompetizioneFerrari 458 GT2
Vipergod [Team MRT]Ferrari 458 GT2BMW M3 GT2
ImperiousBMW M3 GT2BMW M3 GT2
Guybrush Threepwood [Achilles Heels]Lotus Evora GXLotus Evora GTC Lotus Evora GX
cramjetMcLaren MP4-12C GT3Ferrari 458 GT2
GratulinMercedes SLS GT3Mercedes SLS GT3
SchmittezBMW M3 GT2BMW M3 GT2
Dave OBMW M3 GT2BMW M3 GT2
BacchulumMcLaren MP4-12C GT3McLaren MP4-12C GT3
KrahlMercedes SLS GT3Mercedes SLS GT3
EdWoodLotus Evora GTCLotus Evora GX
FreezerFerrari 458 GT2P4/5 Competizione
AimanLotus Evora GXLotus Evora GX
Wally [TKO Racing]P4/5 CompetizioneMercedes SLS GT3
StanDaamP4/5 CompetizioneLotus Evora GTC
Ysu [TKO Racing]P4/5 CompetizioneLotus Evora GTC
GWyarBMW M3 GT2P4/5 Competizione BMW M3 GT2
TomMcLaren MP4-12C GT3Lotus Evora GTC
Matthew111Mercedes SLS GT3Lotus Evora GX

Other drivers
Marty: Lotus Evora GTC

Edit: Corrected GWyar and Guybrush cars.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 02, 2014, 11:38:47 PM
There's a new version (0.7) of the Pit Lane Penalty app here: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/a-pit-lane-penalty-app-for-repeated-track-cutting.17852

Please download this before next Tuesday's race.

Recent changes include:
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
haha, we're down to the lotus for Monza!  That's great, no chance of achieving anything significant there :)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on December 03, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
Boo!!, I lose my mighty purdy P4/5  :'(
(we were very close, unnaturally so)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 03, 2014, 12:20:35 PM
Spa's nearly as long and fast as Monza.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Spa's nearly as long and fast as Monza.
There's a hefty difference there IMO. 

i.e. see the fezza gt2  (I've taken the laptimes where a lot people seem to be)
Spa 7 km  laptimes around 2:18 (http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=rank&track=341&car=41&rank_type=all&tyre_type=all&controller_type=all&community=all&friends=all)
Monza 5.8km, laptimes around 1.49 (http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=rank&track=20&car=41&rank_type=all&tyre_type=all&controller_type=all&community=all&friends=all)

IMO 30s is a huge difference on a ~2 minute lap :)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on December 03, 2014, 01:21:38 PM
haha, we're down to the lotus for Monza!  That's great, no chance of achieving anything significant there :)
I got passed at spa in my 458 by GB in his no wing, damaged lotus . . so there's still hope!
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 03, 2014, 01:31:24 PM
Much more hope then trying to pass a 599 in a lotus.  ;D
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2014, 01:38:14 PM
haha, we're down to the lotus for Monza!  That's great, no chance of achieving anything significant there :)
I got passed at spa in my 458 by GB in his no wing, damaged lotus . . so there's still hope!
Yeah, I suspect there's an element of setup here, too.  I'm not sure how many of the fezza or the merc drivers here created good setups that suit spa, or how many will do it for monza.   
In this regard single makes with ballast would be much better (while not perfect) :)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: RPM on December 03, 2014, 10:46:13 PM
Just did a couple of laps in the Beamer, 1:52's on softs and half a tank of gas
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 04, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
I ran some laps in the Evora the other day and running a very low downforce setup its not giving up any top speed away to the GT2 cars actually quicker at 267kmh for me vs the top RSR times in the GT2 cars with speeds around 264 to 266kmh. Surprisingly its the GT3 cars that have the higher top speeds here able to get to 275kmh but most are doing over 271 in the top few times. Its not the straight line speed that hurts it its the lack of cornering grip so to get the most out of the other cars people will need to push harder in the corners. You can go the other way with setup in the Evora and make it nice in corners but slow down the straight, it just wont be very competitive.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
You have a strategic choice to make...
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2014, 10:54:18 PM
I've done a 1:50.0 in the Merc on mediums.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 05, 2014, 09:30:29 PM
Dunno about you guys but I can't stand the GTC. Every time I brake it tries to spit me off the track.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 06, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
Dunno about you guys but I can't stand the GTC. Every time I brake it tries to spit me off the track.

Its very skatey for me at Monza, I cant quite brake on the outside edge of the track as it may drop a wheel in the dirt as it squirms to a stop. You can always add lots of aero to help but in terms of the evora a stable car is a slow car.  ;D
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 06, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
I've invited two reserves to Monza by PM because of its 26 grid spots.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 06, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
I've invited two reserves to Monza by PM because of its 26 grid spots.

M8R and Flattop will be racing.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 06, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
The Evora GTC is now officially the first car in AC I've come across that I hate.  Grrrrrr.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 06, 2014, 10:59:02 PM
The Evora GTC is now officially the first car in AC I've come across that I hate.  Grrrrrr.

Check the warm tyre pressures, especially at Monza the left side does way more work so it means the right side will stay cooler and loose pressure. This makes the car tend to want to wander to the right on braking as for me even pressures had the right side 3 psi lower then the left, fix this and it will brake in a straighter line again.  ;)

Edit: how did you get into the GTC anyway? Aiman is still in the GX and a few other guys got that. I thought you did ok at Spa and had the quickest laps in the Evora.

Edit 2: I think Wally must have made a boo boo, Guybrush outpaced Aiman easily yet he got the faster car and Aiman stayed in the GX.

Race 1 best lap
Guybrush 2:19:010
Aiman 2:19:854

Race 2 best lap
Guybrush 2:19:448
Aiman 2:25:308

Guy moves up a car Aiman stays at the bottom. Wish I ran as I could have possibly matched Guy's pace at Spa and so may have moved myself up to a GT3.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 07, 2014, 01:02:01 AM
Maybe with the averaging of laps that's the way it worked out?
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 07, 2014, 11:36:29 AM
Marty's right - well spotted. I had GWyar's and Guybrush's averages swapped, due to a mis-sorting of names.

Correct cars are:
GWyar: BMW M3
Guybrush: Lotus Evora GX

Everyone else is the same. Sorry about that. At least GT will be relieved.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: gawaterman on December 07, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
Did wonder about that, as Imp and I had the similar times in the same cars but he got to keep the BMW whereas I got a slower car, although I did a few laps in the P4/5 and quite enjoyed it.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 07, 2014, 01:00:25 PM
Marty's right - well spotted. I had GWyar's and Guybrush's averages swapped, due to a mis-sorting of names.

Correct cars are:
GWyar: BMW M3
Guybrush: Lotus Evora GX

Everyone else is the same. Sorry about that. At least GT will be relieved.

Damn, wish I had have known before putting in too much time trying to sort out my setup, lol.  Well, onto the GX then.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 07, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
Damn, wish I had have known before putting in too much time trying to sort out my setup, lol.  Well, onto the GX then.
you could still share it... ;)


Edit: and I see what you mean by the handling...this car is really something else.  Under braking it's like a wild pony, and when the rear goes out you must not counter-steer, otherwise you lose it on the spot.  Just keep a neutral throttle and pray.  It's rather terrible to drive, LOL.

Oh, and you're still very fast. I've done about 10 laps - on mediums, not sure if it makes much of a difference - but I could not get anywhere near.  Some 2s off your pace.  A low '51 is all I got.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 07, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
What does it say my best lap is?  I presume this is in the Steam leader board?
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 07, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
Marty's right - well spotted. I had GWyar's and Guybrush's averages swapped, due to a mis-sorting of names.

Correct cars are:
GWyar: BMW M3
Guybrush: Lotus Evora GX

Everyone else is the same. Sorry about that. At least GT will be relieved.

Damn, wish I had have known before putting in too much time trying to sort out my setup, lol.  Well, onto the GX then.

You could still be in the GTC next week ;)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 08, 2014, 08:01:28 AM
What does it say my best lap is?  I presume this is in the Steam leader board?
Yes and it's some '49 - not sure what.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on December 08, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
Did 2 laps last night in the BMW M3 GT2 and was able to put in a 54 so hoping some familiarity may bring me a little closer to the pack tomorrow night...
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 08, 2014, 12:19:32 PM
Damn, wish I had have known before putting in too much time trying to sort out my setup, lol.  Well, onto the GX then.
you could still share it... ;)


Edit: and I see what you mean by the handling...this car is really something else.  Under braking it's like a wild pony, and when the rear goes out you must not counter-steer, otherwise you lose it on the spot.  Just keep a neutral throttle and pray.  It's rather terrible to drive, LOL.

Oh, and you're still very fast. I've done about 10 laps - on mediums, not sure if it makes much of a difference - but I could not get anywhere near.  Some 2s off your pace.  A low '51 is all I got.

Not sure about that Bird I can slide the thing around quite a bit but its slower and scrubs speed. I need opposite lock in quite a few sections at times, thats without tc and running quite a bit stiffer then default setup. I will post my setup when I get home later and you can have a go, it shouod be abke to get intk the 48's with a better driver.  ;D
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 08, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
Damn, wish I had have known before putting in too much time trying to sort out my setup, lol.  Well, onto the GX then.
you could still share it... ;)


Edit: and I see what you mean by the handling...this car is really something else.  Under braking it's like a wild pony, and when the rear goes out you must not counter-steer, otherwise you lose it on the spot.  Just keep a neutral throttle and pray.  It's rather terrible to drive, LOL.

Oh, and you're still very fast. I've done about 10 laps - on mediums, not sure if it makes much of a difference - but I could not get anywhere near.  Some 2s off your pace.  A low '51 is all I got.

Not sure about that Bird I can slide the thing around quite a bit but its slower and scrubs speed. I need opposite lock in quite a few sections at times, thats without tc and running quite a bit stiffer then default setup. I will post my setup when I get home later and you can have a go, it shouod be abke to get intk the 48's with a better driver.  ;D
That's not me.  as I said, I can't even get in the 50s and if you stiffen it up it'll probably cause more problems.  I'm too slow for these nimble cars I think.
Plus I suck at monza & I hate it too, so...
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 08, 2014, 01:15:32 PM
Also why I cant get into the 48's but got pretty close, I can run consistent laps but that's because one of 3 sections I will drop 3 tenths each lap. Very hard to commit properly and nail every corner for me there and get the most out of the lap.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 08, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
Also why I cant get into the 48's but got pretty close, I can run consistent laps but that's because one of 3 sections I will drop 3 tenths each lap. Very hard to commit properly and nail every corner for me there and get the most out of the lap.

48s! You clearly need a slower car.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 08, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
Also why I cant get into the 48's but got pretty close, I can run consistent laps but that's because one of 3 sections I will drop 3 tenths each lap. Very hard to commit properly and nail every corner for me there and get the most out of the lap.

48s! You clearly need a slower car.

Pretty sure even with a high 1:48 in qualy I will be 1 or more seconds off the pole so I dont think so. Thats still nearly 2 seconds off the WR in this car ;D

Had I matched my PB at Spa in qualy I would have been 1.2 seconds off the pole in race 1 and I actually like that track unlike Monza.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on December 08, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Mid 1.49s in the P4/5.  I think in race conditions though the Merc had a lot of straight line which might see it grab positions.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 08, 2014, 04:03:45 PM
Race pace will be +1 sec with lower fuel and passing most cars wont be easy in the Evora so qualy will be pretty important. I predict Phil will do rather well in the fastest car again, unfortunatly he had some issue at the mugello round when he was quick.

I have also put up another xgn practice server with regular fuel use and regular password. I did run it as open public for a few days but public server at Monza is insanity lol. I just hope the race starts arent as bad on race nite but the issue on the public server wasnt even t1, most of the idiots would crash within 50m of the start line.  ;D

At mugello round both starts I got hit by someone so my main goal is to just make it through lap 1 without damage then get on with the race. The league has been fine but the starts at the mugello round where pretty rough, I didnt see a replay from Spa but didnt read about too many incidents so maybe its settled down a little since the first round at the back.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 08, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
The Spa T1s were all good. Monza is pretty crazy because the chicane is so narrow. I reckon we should be aiming to single file it if possible.

My PB in the Merc is 50 flat, on mediums.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 08, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
Mid 1.49s in the P4/5.  I think in race conditions though the Merc had a lot of straight line which might see it grab positions.

The run to T1 is fairly long at Monza as well so I could see the Merc's getting in amongst it all.

For what it's worth my PB in the GTC is a 1.48.5.  Haven't really done much hot-lapping in the GX, more setup work but I'd imagine it would be around 0.5 to 1 second slower.
Title: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on December 08, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
Mid 1.49s in the P4/5.  I think in race conditions though the Merc had a lot of straight line which might see it grab positions.

The run to T1 is fairly long at Monza as well so I could see the Merc's getting in amongst it all.
Just remember the Mercs take a little while to pull up and may not actually fit through the first chicane...
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 08, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
The Spa T1s were all good. Monza is pretty crazy because the chicane is so narrow. I reckon we should be aiming to single file it if possible.

My PB in the Merc is 50 flat, on mediums.

You can get through t1 quite easily side by side but you need to hold the inside or outside line and give the other guy space. You cant take the regular entry speed and line if your alongside someone but I have gone side by side with many good drivers there without issue. Its the guys that dont give room or the ones from a couple rows back trying to squeeze in between 2 cars already going side by side.

Main issue I see with people not particularly here but the average drivers in a public server, they dont seem to care if a car is ahead of them and try to brake same as a regular hotlap which is never going to work. Then also if side by side with someone they give no room, if your inside you need to brake more to not run wide and into the other guys lane outside and same with the outside guy he cant cut into the regular apex and needs to leave 1 car space inside. This isnt just on lap 1 but everywhere and side by side is always slower through a corner so battling someone you will either crash or both lose laptime its pretty simple I think.

There are going to be people lock up into t1 and also need to be aware of other cars that may need to brake much earlier into the corner then you do. If they brake at 170 and you stop at 150 then being up their bum you will need to brake earlier to avoid hitting them. If trying to pass someone on the inside you need to make sure you brake early enough to hit the first apex and not run wide on exit as thats the only place the other guy can be.

I ran a few more laps and tried to get under 1:49 but I cant, here is my setup in the GTC which I did 49.1 and can easily do low 49's in a hotlap but there are issues in some corners. Also the gearing and tyre pressures are only good for qualy most likely as first gear is a bit tall to be good for t1 but be pretty tough off the line. Setup is quite a compromise all round and pretty low aero as more drag just loses big chunks of time everywhere. I cant get both the Lesmo's and Ascari to play nice but this favours the Lesmo's but gets a bit too loose into the entry of Ascari. You can raise Brake bias into that corner but I really suck at making a setup thats good all the way around.


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Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 08, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
I've also just posted my setup in my dropbear for the GTC.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on December 08, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
Also why I cant get into the 48's but got pretty close, I can run consistent laps but that's because one of 3 sections I will drop 3 tenths each lap. Very hard to commit properly and nail every corner for me there and get the most out of the lap.

48s! You clearly need a slower car.

Pretty sure even with a high 1:48 in qualy I will be 1 or more seconds off the pole so I dont think so. Thats still nearly 2 seconds off the WR in this car ;D

Had I matched my PB at Spa in qualy I would have been 1.2 seconds off the pole in race 1 and I actually like that track unlike Monza.
I'll likely start from Ascari with my '51 then. :o :(
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on December 08, 2014, 07:52:22 PM

Also why I cant get into the 48's but got pretty close, I can run consistent laps but that's because one of 3 sections I will drop 3 tenths each lap. Very hard to commit properly and nail every corner for me there and get the most out of the lap.

48s! You clearly need a slower car.

Pretty sure even with a high 1:48 in qualy I will be 1 or more seconds off the pole so I dont think so. Thats still nearly 2 seconds off the WR in this car ;D

Had I matched my PB at Spa in qualy I would have been 1.2 seconds off the pole in race 1 and I actually like that track unlike Monza.
I'll likely start from Ascari with my '51 then. :o :(
See you there :))
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 09, 2014, 08:23:40 AM

I'll likely start from Ascari with my '51 then. :o :(
See you there :))
you too! ;D
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on December 09, 2014, 09:24:18 AM
I'm counting on the "blue flag" app working on the map on the 28 lapper! :)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on December 09, 2014, 10:05:50 AM

I'm counting on the "blue flag" app working on the map on the 28 lapper! :)
We can line up in formation to block all lappers - maybe charge for permission to pass?
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 09, 2014, 10:42:43 AM
I'm counting on the "blue flag" app working on the map on the 28 lapper! :)

I hope Wally didnt change it to 28 laps, Rob was on the practice server last nite and a full tank in his ferrari gt2 was just over 12 laps. He can just make the 23 laps on one stop but 28 would be a stretch for most cars. Would be fine for the lotus but also at around 1:50 per lap 28 laps would be a bit longer then the 45 min I think is the intended race length.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 09, 2014, 11:25:16 AM
No, it's always been 23 laps.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: marty on December 09, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
Lets hope the 458 GT2 is the thirstiest car at Monza, aero setup could also have a fair impact on fuel consumption there I think but if thats only just going to make a one stopper lets hope all others can do it, pretty sure Wally has tested all cars with a fuel estimate but its can be quite different in a real full tank run.

The Evora GTC here can do 16 laps on my race setup and likely a bit more with lower grip levels and traffic at the start of the race. Even the 458 GT2 may get an extra lap for the same reason and at Mugello I did run 17 laps in the mclaren in race 2 so I think that will make it quite easily.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on December 09, 2014, 03:01:12 PM
I'm counting on the "blue flag" app working on the map on the 283 lapper! :)

sorry for the panic...  ::)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on December 09, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
No, it's always been 23 laps.
Really?
I wrote down the season when it was first announced and had 25 laps for Monza (and 20 for Spa). ???
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 09, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
No, it's always been 23 laps.
Really?
I wrote down the season when it was first announced and had 25 laps for Monza (and 20 for Spa). ???

When I say "always", I mean since I changed it ;)
I did adjust laps very early on, possibly after round 1, as some cars would have needed 2 stops.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on December 09, 2014, 05:48:16 PM
I guess I missed that adjustment as last week I was still expecting 20 laps.
(I checked again after I found out it was different on the night)
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 09, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on December 09, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Server's up.
Thanks Wally
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: cramjet on December 09, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
Just hopped in for some practice and have been called back into work. Sorry for the absolute last minute notice!

I know given the number of pit bays there may not be any reserves but if there is I hope they get my spot :D

Sorry folks, see y'all next week.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Aiman Haziq on December 09, 2014, 07:41:22 PM
sorry for late reply , I will not be coming for this round.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Wally on December 09, 2014, 08:29:41 PM
sorry for late reply , I will not be coming for this round.
No worries, Aiman.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on December 09, 2014, 09:04:37 PM
mercedes_sls_gt3 setup

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Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Tom on December 09, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
car was fighting me in every turn... crashed heavily and decided to retire so I wouldn't take anyone out.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: Bird on December 09, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
Track was fighting me on every turn... ;)  It hit me halfway through the second race: why am I bothering with it if I simply can't enjoy it?  I'm tired anyway, might as well just have a beer and watch something :)

Apologies for the crap in the first race, my driving was rather sub-standard.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: EdWood on December 09, 2014, 10:24:39 PM
5 laps to go and my connection drops out. Oh well, i was having a lonely race down in 15th so didn't miss out on much.
Title: Re: S4R4: Monza Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on December 11, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
Terrible night for me and I love Monza...  :-[
Just couldn't get any pace out of the GTC... back to the McLaren next week, try and get my mojo back  :P
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