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Title: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on August 31, 2017, 07:26:23 PM: Enduro

Cars
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6YBokXY5o8QVTVsVWRReDVnd00/view
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lola-t70-mkii-spyder-rf2.16043/

Track
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/wip-circuit-mont-tremblant.14185/

http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1967.0
http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessionstat
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on August 31, 2017, 09:01:33 PM: Server is up
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2017, 12:43:10 PM: Quote from: Phil.8 on August 31, 2017, 09:01:33 PM
Server is up
thanks Phil
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: humper on September 04, 2017, 09:33:30 PM: Quote from: Phil.8 on August 31, 2017, 09:01:33 PM
Server is up

I can't find it?
Made sure I was looking at all servers. Searched on car, track & XGN but no joy
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on September 04, 2017, 09:59:08 PM: Oppps my bad, i forgot to mention I took the server down to host the fun run tomorrow, I hope I didn't cause to much of a conundrum

It will be back up after tomorrows races
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bacchulum on September 05, 2017, 08:42:23 AM: Thank god for that.
Thought I was going crazy! :o
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:50 PM: Server is up

really
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rooshooter on September 06, 2017, 07:56:14 AM: Quote from: Phil.8 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
Server is up

really
Thanks Phil.
Everyone please note, to get the most out of this track needs some practice. This combo was one of the most difficult to learn that I have encountered :'(
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2017, 09:25:21 AM: Quote from: rooshooter on September 06, 2017, 07:56:14 AM
Quote from: Phil.8 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
Server is up

really
Thanks Phil.
Everyone please note, to get the most out of this track needs some practice. This combo was one of the most difficult to learn that I have encountered :'(

yeow, certainly footage and overhead track layout looks complicated, hope to be there this week, so I better get cracking.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rob on September 06, 2017, 07:18:02 PM: I missed last night's fun-run because I have reached my d/l data limit and have been throttled back to dial-up, and now I will miss Thursday's race because I have to go to a wedding. Who holds a wedding on a Thursday? Lol.

Have fun guys.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on September 06, 2017, 07:28:13 PM: I don't mind delaying the round a week rob ?
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rob on September 06, 2017, 08:13:26 PM: Much appreciated Phil, but please don't. I don't mind missing a race as I won't be very competitive in these monsters anyway. You've delayed the start of the season enough already.

Thanks mate.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on September 07, 2017, 09:23:21 PM: 8) Results (http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship?cs_id=3) :P

http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship?event_id=14

Practice: http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1627#

Qual: http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1628#

Race: http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1629#
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Gratulin on September 07, 2017, 09:29:02 PM: Thanks Phil. I actually enjoyed managing to complete that!
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Phil.8 on September 07, 2017, 09:32:04 PM: Quote from: Gratulin on September 07, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
Thanks Phil. I actually enjoyed managing to complete that!

Awesome, does feel satisfying completing that combo :)
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Joe on September 08, 2017, 07:33:20 AM: I didn't enjoy failing to manage that much at all. No practice, default setup and incorrect tyre pressures probably didn't help much.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rooshooter on September 08, 2017, 09:02:45 AM: I found the non Ford powered Lola a bit harder to drive after our fun run so I had to work on a new setup. I managed to qualify 4th and was happy with the way the car was handling , I could make a small mistake and the result would not be disaster. Thanks to Bacchulum mentioning the number of laps for a forty minute race I realised my calculation was in in error ,I had only allowed for 23 laps which meant I probably would have run out of fuel. Thanks Bacchulum :)
After the start with Phil and Mael starting from the pits and Bacchulum from the back there was only Seanus , AJ and Joe around me , Seanus quickly pulled away and AJ passed me early followed by Joe . I think Joe had the first off which allowed me to pass, even though I did slightly follow him and got two wheels in the grass but Joe spun right off the track!! after that I was keeping pressure on AJ with Seanus keeping a constant gap out the front. AJ finally succumbed and also had an off which put me in second place about 6 seconds behind Seanus. This remained the case for the next 15 laps or so ( felt like forever). I had been trying to workout how many laps I had done by looking at the info at the top of of the screen, to know when to pit, and was completely flummoxed , there was no lap counter there!!! I finally realised it was a countdown timer from 40 minutes :-[ :-[ :-[. By this time I had caught up to Imperious who graciously let me pass , this was the first car I had seen in quite awhile. I decided to pit next lap , still in second place at this stage and exited the pits still with no cars around me :( . I was now in 4th place which I did not really understand . On the next lap a car exited the pits right behind me and was on my tail, with just 9 minutes to go and having not made an unforced error yet, I got very nervous and I had no idea who it was. I decided not to fight for my position and let them pass giving away a podium spot, it was bloody Mael.
This was the way it stayed to the end with another car rapidly gaining on me which turned out to be Bacchulum. I had not seen Phil on track the whole race he must have gone past when I was in the pits , well done Phil to win from starting from the pits and with no fuel on board. Congratulations to Seanus , you drove a flawless race and Mael starting from the pits.
I was very happy with the result with only Seanus and me having"0" crashes and "0" offs.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Gratulin on September 08, 2017, 09:15:09 AM: I think humper was on my tail most of the race. His and my lap times vied for slowest. His stats are the best however - 0 valid laps!!!!
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bruce on September 08, 2017, 09:55:41 AM: well done all. Good to see Gratulin back and Imperious. Nice write up Denis, not sure how you remembered it all!
Sorry not up to doing much at the moment, I will be back ASAP.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Mael on September 08, 2017, 10:33:44 AM: Quote from: Joe on September 08, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
I didn't enjoy failing to manage that much at all. No practice, default setup and incorrect tyre pressures probably didn't help much.

The car does seem extra-ordinary sensitive to tire pressures. I thought i heard somewhere that 28 was the target hot pressure so tried to set the car up for that. No matter what lines I drove, what camber or damper settings were used I could not average better than 1:44 to 1:43.

Then just before quali I had a look at Kunos's tire app which suggested 38 as the target pressure. Adjusting pressures brought me immediately into the 1:39's

For the race, I had a fun time. Some arguments with Phil, a wall and the fuel calculator lead to a solid 3rd place finish :) (BTW The wall won the argument)
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: humper on September 08, 2017, 11:54:55 AM: Quote from: Gratulin on September 08, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
I think humper was on my tail most of the race. His and my lap times vied for slowest. His stats are the best however - 0 valid laps!!!!

:) It felt invalid too. On about lap 3 my steering went light like the FFback had been switched off. It was very difficult to correct a slide and took many laps to get used to it. Hoped it would come good when I pitted but no luck.

I thought I'd jumped you in the pits when we went in together and was very surprised to find you up the road from me at the end.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: GymnasticHippo on September 08, 2017, 08:53:10 PM: Sorry i missed last night. it's been a pretty ordinary week - my 3yo has managed to score influenza... it's been interesting. jumped on and was about to jump on for some practice and realised it was the season start and the race was already underway. oh well. here's to a better week next week!
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bacchulum on September 08, 2017, 09:21:58 PM: I've got to say Humper, you were driving pretty good.
I started behind you and struggled to pass (due to you hitting your marks and not making mistakes).
Then I stuffed up and ended up behind you again and it was even more difficult to pass.
THEN, (repeat), I stuffed up again and you got by, again.
I was just about to give up when you pitted, so I was a little pleased I didn't have to risk it one more time. ;)
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bacchulum on September 08, 2017, 11:12:46 PM: Quote from: Mael on September 08, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
Quote from: Joe on September 08, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
I didn't enjoy failing to manage that much at all. No practice, default setup and incorrect tyre pressures probably didn't help much.

The car does seem extra-ordinary sensitive to tire pressures. I thought i heard somewhere that 28 was the target hot pressure so tried to set the car up for that. No matter what lines I drove, what camber or damper settings were used I could not average better than 1:44 to 1:43.

Then just before quali I had a look at Kunos's tire app which suggested 38 as the target pressure. Adjusting pressures brought me immediately into the 1:39's

For the race, I had a fun time. Some arguments with Phil, a wall and the fuel calculator lead to a solid 3rd place finish :) (BTW The wall won the argument)
That's not really extra-ordinary, Mael.
That gain with 2-3psi change would be but a 10psi change is the difference between the tyre working or not. ;)

And which app told you that?
The only kunos tyre app I've seen just monitors the tyres and doesn't suggest. ???
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Seanus on September 09, 2017, 01:54:47 AM: Content Manager reads the tyre info and puts it into 'Race Essentials' and/or 'Sidekick'.

There is sweet FA this app can't do!
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rooshooter on September 09, 2017, 08:08:51 AM: Quote from: Bacchulum on September 08, 2017, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: Mael on September 08, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
Quote from: Joe on September 08, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
I didn't enjoy failing to manage that much at all. No practice, default setup and incorrect tyre pressures probably didn't help much.

The car does seem extra-ordinary sensitive to tire pressures. I thought i heard somewhere that 28 was the target hot pressure so tried to set the car up for that. No matter what lines I drove, what camber or damper settings were used I could not average better than 1:44 to 1:43.

Then just before quali I had a look at Kunos's tire app which suggested 38 as the target pressure. Adjusting pressures brought me immediately into the 1:39's

For the race, I had a fun time. Some arguments with Phil, a wall and the fuel calculator lead to a solid 3rd place finish :) (BTW The wall won the argument)
That's not really extra-ordinary, Mael.
That gain with 2-3psi change would be but a 10psi change is the difference between the tyre working or not. ;)

And which app told you that?
The only kunos tyre app I've seen just monitors the tyres and doesn't suggest. ???
So what is the correct tyre pressure for these cars? Is it what Wally's app suggests?
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Bacchulum on September 09, 2017, 08:50:30 AM: No Roo.
Wally's app reads the info off an .ini file, and mod cars aren't on that list.
I think it just defaults to your cold pressures.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rooshooter on September 09, 2017, 09:03:54 AM: Quote from: Bacchulum on September 09, 2017, 08:50:30 AM
No Roo.
Wally's app reads the info off an .ini file, and mod cars aren't on that list.
I think it just defaults to your cold pressures.
Thanks Bacchulum.
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: Gratulin on September 09, 2017, 02:13:25 PM: Quote from: GzeroD on September 09, 2017, 01:54:47 AM
Content Manager reads the tyre info and puts it into 'Race Essentials' and/or 'Sidekick'.

There is sweet FA this app can't do!
I decided to work out how this worked since I was getting confused. What I found was

1. Content Manager has a setting under "INTEGRATED" for Sidekick (see screenshot) and other apps such as Race Essentials, SRS, RSR etc.

2. From the Sidekick readme.txt file:

Q: Mod cars don't have colored temperature, pressure and brake values?
A: I have no way of knowing the ideal values for non-Kunos cars. However, you can use the awesome Content Manager launcher by @x4fab, which can generate the necessary data for Sidekick automatically.

The created lola_t70_rf2.ini file looks like this (see screenshot):

[lola_t70_rf2_vintage_v]
IDEAL_PRESSURE_F=36
IDEAL_PRESSURE_R=38
MAX_OPTIMAL_TEMP=80
MIN_OPTIMAL_TEMP=50

3. I need to ask Wally some questions on TyrePressureEngineer because I could not add the Lola to IdealPressures file properly. My values for pressure seem to get overridden by the app.
*** EDIT *** I deleted and re-installed latest version from Kunos forum post. That fixed the issue I think. I definitely had the wrong version of the App. It did (and does) say V1.0 in the .py file.

Here are the lines I added.

lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).fl = 36
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).fr = 36
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).rl = 38
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).rr = 38
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).minTF = 50
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).maxTF = 80
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).minTR = 50
lola_t70_rf2.vintage (v).maxTR = 80

Does this seem correct? Seems to work for me...
Title: Re: S10 R1 - Mont - Tremblant - 7/09/2017 - 1966 Cam-Am Series
Post by: rooshooter on September 09, 2017, 04:27:23 PM: Thanks Gratulin I will give it a go. It never ceases to amaze me the depth of knowledge held by the XGN members :)