Xtreme Gaming Network
Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on August 11, 2015, 10:29:13 PM
-
RACE RESULTS AND CHARTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2015/08/s8r1-lotus-evora-gtcgx-at-imola.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2015/08/season-8-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)
Penalties
Penalties are given for careless accidents in turns 1 and 2 of each race.
Race 1: JoshR (-4) for running into the rear of Joe (+4)
Round Points
Guybrush Threepwood 71
Matthew111 65
Jeremy 62
Marty 61
StanDaam 61
Rolz 60
Grat 53
Wally 48
Bacchulum 42
Gratulin 42
christopheraser 39
Skaife 38
Freezer 37
Joe 35
Bafs17 32
Grubbet 29
Phil.8 28
Rob 24
Phil 19
Simone 19
Chap111 16
Imperious 10
JoshR 5
Congratulations to Guybrush on the round win, and Guybrush and Marty on the race wins.
Season Podium
1. Guybrush Threepwood, 71 pts
2. Matthew111, 65 pts
3. Jeremy, 62 pts
Achilles Heels are in the lead in the teams' championship.
-
Awesome fun! Ballast, hot track and 4x wear was tough.
Got a PB in practice so was stoked there :)
Very happy with 3rd in race 1, but it came off the crash off Jeremy and Marty... thought my initial bump in the rear on the first corner was going to screw my car but it didn't seem to as I was pretty happy with the times.
6-7th in race 2... that was a mission with the ballast and all the usual extra wear etc loaded up, had a top tussle with Stan and Grat... was lots of fun for the first race of the season!
Also great to see such a full field! So many racers is awesome ;D
-
Thanks a lot to everybody. Was a very funny night.
As the new guy I suppose I should open the chat.
We had the car and the speed was there. It was our home race and our debut race: we wanted to make our supporters happy. We worked hard during the weekend and---despite pit-wall f***-ups---got home with few but precious points.
RACE 1: After a good qualifying session, unfortunately the pit-wall failed to make the right choice (forgot to switch back to mediums after quali). The first 4 or 5 laps were great and was holding in 3rd or 4th, but then the car started to be really loose. I wondered what was going on and by lap 7, when I had lost already 3 positions, I finally checked the leader-board.... it said S (for Stupid, I suppose). Opened tt and said 87%!!! Landed an 8th place with Wally gently helping me through the finish line.
RACE 2: In the second race instead the strategy was great. Mediums were working great and my last laps where in the low 48, while my direct contenders in the hard could rarely go below 49. Start was disastrous: lost 5 positions, I think. But then I got back to a promising 4th or 5th position (can't remember very well). Rolz behind me started to pay on the hards, while my mediums were pounding till lap 9. Unfortunately the pitstop was very slow. I have been told that the rear left was not getting out and they lost a lot of time fixing that. It happens. We have to work on that. I lost a position in pitlane and then rejoined behind Rolz, whose undercut was blessed by my slow pitstop. Rolz, Staan Daam and I went for a 5 or 6 laps battle, with me getting frustrated and (thanks to my joyful inexperience) getting the worst despite having the fastest car in the lot. A 7th place on debut is not too bad, but with 5th place so easily reachable, our supporters are understandably disappointed.
-
Fun racings tonight, had my regulation bad race and good race. Race 1 was shaping up to be a fun 4 way battle as it was clear Matthew and Jeremy went a very different way with setup then Guybrush and me yet similar laptimes. Unfortunately Jeremy got mesmerised by the side by side battle of GB and Matthew as we were both preparing to pounce on them he came in a little hot and hit me in the rear. I figured I may as well pit to fix damage and maybe try and work my way back a little then have a bit of help in race 2 ballast free.
Race 2 was fun but with less weight then all those around me I just tried to keep it on the black stuff and get around without pushing too hard. GB had some real god pace, Matthew and Jeremey went the meds vs our hards and it was going to be another fun battle, Matthew had an odd warp incident when Jeremey disappeared after t1 on lap 3 which was I think around the point where either GB or me also warped as we crossed the sf line. Luckily we were side by side so didn't warp into each other.
WIth the 75kg advantage over GB I didn't have to push too hard and was able to hold him off with a bit more power out of the slower corners, he had a couple good cracks during the race but I just stayed ahead. Then I saw Jeremey and GB both pit on lap 9 but I decided to stay out and try to get in a clean lap and hopefully hold the lead after the stop. It just worked out and I held off GB just into t1 as I exited the pits and we continued on pretty close for most of the race. Near the end I started to push a bit harder to break GB's spirits but he kept on there and I didn't think Id keep it on the black stuff at that pace so backed off a little trying to manage the small gap.
Lol Grat love the summary too.
-
Results in 1st post!
-
Race screenie...
(http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w549/WallyMasterson/Screenshot_lotus_evora_gx_imola_11-8-115-22-4-2_zpsqs7m65an.jpg)
-
Awesome fun! Ballast, hot track and 4x wear was tough.
Got a PB in practice so was stoked there :)
Very happy with 3rd in race 1, but it came off the crash off Jeremy and Marty... thought my initial bump in the rear on the first corner was going to screw my car but it didn't seem to as I was pretty happy with the times.
6-7th in race 2... that was a mission with the ballast and all the usual extra wear etc loaded up, had a top tussle with Stan and Grat... was lots of fun for the first race of the season!
Also great to see such a full field! So many racers is awesome ;D
Rolz: I propose a truce! Let's team up, stop fighting each other, and focus on keeping StanDaam behind ;)
-
...Landed an 8th place with Wally gently helping me through the finish line.
Yes, that was funny. I had the draft behind you to the finish line, and guessed left, but guessed wrong, because suddenly your car was on the left too!
-
My GX definitely felt unsettled and loose in the rear compared to practice earlier in the week. Maybe AC 1.2.3 sabotaged my setup. Nonetheless, in race 1 I managed to climb from 14th to 9th with some good racing with Freezer and Jeremy on the way.
Race 2 I went hards and a long (13 lap) stint, then finished on softs, which was doable for the final 4 laps. The softs helped me at least open up a gap from Bacchulum after my pit stop, but not enough to catch Chris. I had a stupid spin on lap 11 which cost me about 8 or 9 seconds. Maybe without that spin I would have finished 1 place higher up in front of Chris.
The race starts were pretty clean, only one incident, which was great to see in such a big field.
-
Race 1 got the tap from behind in the first corner sending me off into last and damaging the car. Speed difference was pretty noticeable. Was able to catch up with a bit of a pack though and got some passes through others mistakes. Came through the second right hander after the downhill section and found 3 or 4 cars pretty much stopped, threaded my way through but ended up on the right side of the track going into the tight chicane. I braked late, but slowed enough to take the outside, but misjudged it and tapped somebody, I think Chris? My bad sorry.
Really enjoyed race 2, when you get into the zone on those longer races it's pretty awesome. I stayed consistent for the whole race and had a good battle with Bafs towards the end where I thought I was going to get him twice but couldn't quite make the pass (I think partially due to still being a bit hesitant due to worrying about taking people out), then he ran out of fuel on the home straight just before the line; bad luck dude!
I'm running the stock setup as I have no idea when it comes to setups, so if somebody could share one for the GX pleeeeeease. All 4 of my tyres were perfectly round right up until the end due to careful braking I didn't lock up once, but guess I'm probably slower than others :)
EDIT: According to the results I didn't get past Bafs as he ran out of fuel, I was pretty sure I made that place. You obviously calculated perfectly ;D
-
EDIT: According to the results I didn't get past Bafs as he ran out of fuel, I was pretty sure I made that place. You obviously calculated perfectly ;D
What happened with bafs at the end? Did he cross the line? He appears to have recorded a lap time and finished a fraction of a second ahead of you.
-
EDIT: According to the results I didn't get past Bafs as he ran out of fuel, I was pretty sure I made that place. You obviously calculated perfectly ;D
What happened with bafs at the end? Did he cross the line? He appears to have recorded a lap time and finished a fraction of a second ahead of you.
He ran out of fuel just before the finish line and I thought I beat him to the line. Seems I didn't quite make it. Fuel calculation level: ninja
-
LOL
-
I was watching at the time and it did appear to me that Bafs was passed before the line due to running out of fuel.
-
Rolz: I propose a truce! Let's team up, stop fighting each other, and focus on keeping StanDaam behind ;)
lol sure! Just old StanDaam is usually closer to the front... So it was most enjoyable to tussle for places with him. :D
-
Good fun!! i love this car!! First race was a blast i really enjoyed
Race 2 i had a fantastic start and huge fun through the first few corners but then i saw(i think) stand daam going wide at "Piratella" we were in pair until "acque minerali" i gave all the space in the world,as usual,but it was not enough and i ended being pushed on the grass.I retired after that for lack of commitment lolol
Is it possibles to have the replay of the first lap of the 2nd race? Great race guys see you next week!!!!
-
I was watching at the time and it did appear to me that Bafs was passed before the line due to running out of fuel.
It's all politics, GB. It's all politics! Wally is actually Stan Daam's manager, you know? How does this relate to Bafs? Well, Stan Daam's sponsor: Golden Yellow Ltd., is trying to sign Bafs up, and they are putting pressure on Wally, who's in troubles in the Netherlands because of an alleged bribe to add pit stalls at Zandvoort. And Golden Yellow being from Rotterdam, they have contacts there... The Daily Mirror also hinted that Casillo himself might be involved with Wally, although no official charges have been moved yet. And that is why he knows he can't ever laser-scan Zandvoort.
It's all a big intrigue, GB. Stay out of this. Stay clean!
-
Rolz: I propose a truce! Let's team up, stop fighting each other, and focus on keeping StanDaam behind ;)
lol sure! Just old StanDaam is usually closer to the front... So it was most enjoyable to tussle for places with him. :D
Deal! Let's look for skins/liveries/whatever they are called and find a name, then. :) Any idea?
-
Ha ha!! Excellent write ups ;D
Had some schweeet races last night. Race 1, man that was a hard fought battle for 4th!! A last minute decision to run the softs worked out really well for me. Had a good duel with Simone and then an epic struggle with Skaife for the last 5 laps or so. Great tight racing :D
Race 2 was another good one, as Grat n Rolz mentioned, great fight between us 3. Heaps of fun :P. Looks like a team has been born!! Awesome stuff ;D
@ Simone I don't recall anything too bad at the start of race 2 (other than me running off the freakin road!!), will check replay.
@ Joe, will have to have a look at some setups!! :D
-
Rolz: I propose a truce! Let's team up, stop fighting each other, and focus on keeping StanDaam behind ;)
lol sure! Just old StanDaam is usually closer to the front... So it was most enjoyable to tussle for places with him. :D
Deal! Let's look for skins/liveries/whatever they are called and find a name, then. :) Any idea?
Can't pm u as ur mailbox is full :P
-
Nice one grat. I like your style 8)
-
Rolz: I propose a truce! Let's team up, stop fighting each other, and focus on keeping StanDaam behind ;)
lol sure! Just old StanDaam is usually closer to the front... So it was most enjoyable to tussle for places with him. :D
Deal! Let's look for skins/liveries/whatever they are called and find a name, then. :) Any idea?
Can't pm u as ur mailbox is full :P
Looks like the inbox capacity is only 1 message. I deleted it now. :)
-
Race 1: Got a good start into the lead ahead of GB but it quickly became apparent that I had too much aero to keep him behind lol, every little straight id just watch gb rage up beside me which made for a good first few laps of side by side action. But all my defence would be in vein as soon as we got to the main straight as gb just flew past lol and thats where i stayed trying to keep up with his solid pace.
Race 2: Got another good start jumping jeremy this time into p3, but i couldnt challenge gb or marty with my aero setup having to over drive in the turns lol, went slightly wide on the exit of t1 with jeremy on my tail who was running slightly less aero for this race which seemed to work for him so i let him go past into the 2nd chicane as he had a better chance attacking the leaders. A lap latter there was a lag issue where i saw jeremy vanish with just his name remaining so as you do i decided to keep driving into his name lol turns out jeremy has one tough name! and it sent me into the weeds back down to 11th. With a little damage I put the hammer down and started my charge through the field which was good fun eventually coming back to 4th which is probably where i would of finished anyway with my car so at least i had fun doing it lol
-
Race one, refer to signature.
Race two, refer to signature.
-
Qual went ok, well better than expected for 8th. I felt swamped by GTC's who hadn't quite reached their potential over a hot lap during the first lap or so and my tyre pressures were way too low. I tried to give room, but my car felt completely alien to the one I had just been practising and it was a struggle to leave room and make it around the apex at times. I got tangled in someone else's incident at Aqua Minerali on lap two, which gave Joe a run to the Variante Alta, he hit me on the second apex, even after I completely gave him the first apex, no redress. My race was pretty tedious from here, another small spin put me way down the field.
Needless to say I was glad we got to qual again for race 2 and I found myself in eighth position again. Went wheel to wheel with Skaife at Villeneuve, but he had the inside and the better run. This also allowed Stan past me at Tosa. The rest opening lap was having GTC's that hadn't quite made the cut during qual breathing down my neck again. I was a little more prepared this time and increased pressures slightly for the start. Grats pass at the Piratella, was nearly the end of my race. I gave him plenty of room through a corner I would not call a passing opportunity and he still managed to tag me. This gave Simone an outside run on me going down to Aqua Minerali, I took the inside line around the corner and received a bump as I was exiting the corner and was immediately passed by Rolz, at the time I thought Rolz had knocked me as he went by, but looking at the replay Simone was off the track wide on the exit and we touched as he was trying to rejoin the track. Apologies mate I knew you were out there somewhere and gave as much room as I could. I think a little more patience would have been the best way to avoid this incident though. Around the outside at Aqua is not really a passing opportunity even if the car has got a bad exit from the Piratella, you want to have that move sorted before your turn in for Aqua at the very least. Most of my race was a time battle with Wally, he got close to me after the first lap even forcing me to go a little defensive into turn one on lap two, but I was able to pull away over the fist stint and that was really it. Finished in eighth, which is where I qualified so potential achieved I guess =)
There is going to be a lot of chaotic first laps in this series I feel. I felt like some guys in GTC's were really pushing their luck with some of the early race passes. If you qualify your GTC poorly please be patient over the first lap or so, the GX is a bit of a handful until you get some pressure into the rears. You have the pace advantage over us, be patient and make the move in a safe spot. I will be taking numbers and returning the favours when I get my shot in a GTC if it continues.
Well done to the winners, thanks for the racing and see you all next week.
-
Race 1 was dominated by a battle with Rob towards the end.
I could make no head way until he made a small mistake at Aqua Minerali, allow me to pass into Variante Alta.
Could have been a better finish without two spins, though.
Race 2 was improved with a couple of positions made up through the pit stop sequence and a satisfying battle with Gratulin. ;)
I wish you'd reconsider the 2nd qualifying session Wally, I suck at qually. :o :(
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
-
I didn't expect to do very well here as I hadn't had much time to practice other than a little stint with Marty and co. where we were more preoccupied with seeing how much ballast we could fit in, lol.
Race 1. Got a really poor start - I put it into first but had a second twitch of the finger which then put it in second. Matthew got past so I followed him for a bit and zipped by on the straight as it was evident I was running with less wing. It was very close racing up until then and I think there was only a coat of paint between us at times.
Race 2. Got a great start and managed to get into second just behind Marty - the Achilles Heels boys 1 and 2. I had 75kg of ballast which was killing me a bit. Jeremy was right behind so it was fun being the rear gunner and trying to hold Jeremy at bay while Marty was flying around in front. I got a bit close to Marty into the tight chicane and had to take avoiding action which allowed Jeremy right beside me and we went side by side through the last 2 corners. Pitted on lap 8 with Jeremy and came out in front still. Marty then pitted and came out just in front of me again so it was situation resumed. I had a couple of cracks at him but just couldn't pull it off as whenever Marty got a decent exit out of a corner I knew I wouldn't be able to do much because of the ballast.
Was a really fun race and night.
Cheers.
-
Just 1 thing id like to say could people please try and avoid getting into full discussions at the end of qualy.
Now that AC lets you finish the lap, the entire session I had my usual luck with traffic and aborted my lap with a couple minutes to go. Hoping to time it and get a crack at the last lap just in time.
I nailed it making the line with 1 second to go and had nobody infront for half the track. Was .4 up on my PB to tosa so mid 45 then everyone got talking and I lost 1.5 seconds to the last turn without a major error just unable to concentrate at all. Its the most important lap of all at the end of qual so I think I will just look into mapping ts mute for next time. It was real quiet all session too especially early when it really doesnt matter with an evolving track which made the extra noise stand out even more.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
-
I'll start with a Tech Tip:
Dusty CPU fan = 99 degree temps and 30-40 fps.
Clean CPU fan + new thermal paste = 50 degree temps and solid 90 fps.
As for the race, like Wally said I found the GX pretty taily compared to practice so it was more difficult to brake & push it in the bends than previously.
Qualified mid pack in R1 and kept it clean. Wally snuck by a few laps in and I pushed to catch him but could only hold the gap.
R2 qualify was pretty average and I started down the back. Worked my way from 18th to 11th but a little spin saw me drop back. After the stop I had Skaife chasing me for the coveted 14th position but in the dying laps he gave me a little tap and we spun. Didn't end up dropping a spot and dragged it home.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
-
Just to clarify, in race 2 I thought that the amount of fuel on the bar while in the pits was how much goes in the car. However, that was the amount of fuel left in the car. It mean't that the last 5 laps was a formula one style race for me where I had to do a lot of short shifting and lift and coast on every corner just to make it home. My plan of finishing strong on mediums was thrown out the window lol.
To be honest I thought Joe did get me in the end. Not sure how the timing system works so I'll leave that dilemma for Wally to sort out. I'm happy to concede that position to Joe. Looks like GB had a good view of it.
-
then i saw(i think) stand daam going wide at "Piratella" we were in pair until "acque minerali" i gave all the space in the world,as usual,but it was not enough and i ended being pushed on the grass.
This gave Simone an outside run on me going down to Aqua Minerali, I took the inside line around the corner and received a bump as I was exiting the corner
Just clearing my name!! (its all about rep n street cred don't ya know!!) :P
-
Just to clarify, in race 2 I thought that the amount of fuel on the bar while in the pits was how much goes in the car. However, that was the amount of fuel left in the car. It mean't that the last 5 laps was a formula one style race for me where I had to do a lot of short shifting and lift and coast on every corner just to make it home. My plan of finishing strong on mediums was thrown out the window lol.
To be honest I thought Joe did get me in the end. Not sure how the timing system works so I'll leave that dilemma for Wally to sort out. I'm happy to concede that position to Joe. Looks like GB had a good view of it.
Yeah, in the replay, Joe was in front at race end. There's still something screwy in the log output - the sum of your lap times doesn't equal your total time as reported in the server log. I've reported it to the devs. I'll look at improving it.
Edit: I've swapped Joe's and Baf's points for race 2, based on the replay.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
-
I'm pretty sure I've fixed the position mix-up when it was very close. I've updated the race results in the first post. I also fixed something broken by 1.2.3 so the results now show the car and ballast.
-
Simone re entered??? ::)
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
I'm sorry Marty, but I disagree. I both slowed down considerably and left room for grat. I would have had to nearly stop my car if I was going to give up any more track space there, grat was passing me and I gave him room at that point it's his job to get around that corner on the piece of track he has chosen and he couldn't do it without hitting me. Closing the line?? The track went to the left and so did I... I knew he was there and did my best to give space, my steering lock was open at the point of contact. I was not trying to be defensive in that moment. I was simply trying to get through lap one. The fact that he was in front of me is proof of that. I grabbed the brakes very early in an effort to make sure we could both get through without contact.
Just because you can go side by side doesn't mean you should, The Piratella is not known for being a passing place, it's not even a good place to set one up as the next corner is also a single line entry. It has on the other hand ruined many races over the years.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
I'm sorry Wally, but I disagree. I both slowed down considerably and left room for grat. I would have had to nearly stop my car if I was going to give up any more track space there, grat was passing me and I gave him room at that point it's his job to get around that corner on the piece of track he has chosen and he couldn't do it without hitting me. Closing the line?? The track went to the left and so did I... I knew he was there and did my best to give space. My point here is that I was not trying to be defensive in that moment. I was simply trying to get through lap one.
Christopher: I wish you understand that I have nothing personal with you here and that I am answering only because I wish to see better your point and trying to understand what I can do in the future. The point I tried to make, and---as far as I understand---also Marty makes, is that if I have my two inside wheels on the white line at the moment we touch, then it means that you did not leave a car-width for me. You seem to assume that I would have got wide without the bump, but I do not understand why you think so. From what I can see in the replay, it looks like I was making the corner exactly on the inside line, leaving you all the rest of the track. I am not saying you should have left more space necessarily, but once I am on the apex I cannot do more than stay on the inside white line.
I understand you think I should have not attempted the pass in the first place. But if you think my line is dangerous while in the corner, I would like to understand why you think so. Any new information is really good for me at this stage.
In any case: I promise I will try to be more conservative in future occasions, as I really do not wish to annoy anybody. You seem to be a really nice guy, so I am sorry I did it.
Hugs,
grat
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
I'm sorry Wally, but I disagree. I both slowed down considerably and left room for grat. I would have had to nearly stop my car if I was going to give up any more track space there, grat was passing me and I gave him room at that point it's his job to get around that corner on the piece of track he has chosen and he couldn't do it without hitting me. Closing the line?? The track went to the left and so did I... I knew he was there and did my best to give space. My point here is that I was not trying to be defensive in that moment. I was simply trying to get through lap one.
Christopher: I wish you understand that I have nothing personal with you here and that I am answering only because I wish to see better your point and trying to understand what I can do in the future. The point I tried to make, and---as far as I understand---also Marty makes, is that if I have my two inside wheels on the white line at the moment we touch, then it means that you did not leave a car-width for me. You seem to assume that I would have got wide without the bump, but I do not understand why you think so. From what I can see in the replay, it looks like I was making the corner exactly on the inside line, leaving you all the rest of the track. I am not saying you should have left more space necessarily, but once I am on the apex I cannot do more than stay on the inside white line.
I understand you think I should have not attempted the pass in the first place. But if you think my line is dangerous while in the corner, I would like to understand why you think so. Any new information is really good for me at this stage.
In any case: I promise I will try to be more conservative in future occasions, as I really do not wish to annoy anybody. You seem to be a really nice guy, so I am sorry I did it.
Hugs,
grat
This is not personal and I just want my opinion understood too. I have been sim racing for nearly a decade now and I know how to steer a simulated car around a simulated race track, especially in wheel to wheel battles. I could give multiple credentials of other racers who would be willing to vouch for my ability to battle wheel to wheel in a clean fair way, a lot of them are ex XGN racers. There are two sides to every story, it takes two to tango, yada yada and I accept that, but I should be able to post my race report without having to defend it on two separate occasions.
I take your point and this post does make me feel better, but in future I am just going not post race reports I think.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
I'm sorry Wally, but I disagree. I both slowed down considerably and left room for grat. I would have had to nearly stop my car if I was going to give up any more track space there, grat was passing me and I gave him room at that point it's his job to get around that corner on the piece of track he has chosen and he couldn't do it without hitting me. Closing the line?? The track went to the left and so did I... I knew he was there and did my best to give space. My point here is that I was not trying to be defensive in that moment. I was simply trying to get through lap one.
Christopher: I wish you understand that I have nothing personal with you here and that I am answering only because I wish to see better your point and trying to understand what I can do in the future. The point I tried to make, and---as far as I understand---also Marty makes, is that if I have my two inside wheels on the white line at the moment we touch, then it means that you did not leave a car-width for me. You seem to assume that I would have got wide without the bump, but I do not understand why you think so. From what I can see in the replay, it looks like I was making the corner exactly on the inside line, leaving you all the rest of the track. I am not saying you should have left more space necessarily, but once I am on the apex I cannot do more than stay on the inside white line.
I understand you think I should have not attempted the pass in the first place. But if you think my line is dangerous while in the corner, I would like to understand why you think so. Any new information is really good for me at this stage.
In any case: I promise I will try to be more conservative in future occasions, as I really do not wish to annoy anybody. You seem to be a really nice guy, so I am sorry I did it.
Hugs,
grat
This is not personal and I just want my opinion understood too. I have been sim racing for nearly a decade now and I know how to steer a simulated car around a simulated race track, especially in wheel to wheel battles. I could give multiple credentials of other racers who would be willing to vouch for my ability to battle wheel to wheel in a clean fair way, a lot of them are ex XGN racers. There are two sides to every story, it takes two to tango, yada yada and I accept that, but I should be able to post my race report without having to defend it on two separate occasions.
I take your point and this post does make me feel better, but in future I am just going not post race reports I think.
Hi Christopher: absolutely I did not mean to either (i) suggest you were not an experienced racer or (ii) make you "defend" your post. I mentioned several times I am really inexperienced and I only wanted to "defend" myself, as from your report it might have sounded like I was a really unfair guy. This being my first race with all of you, I just did not want to give a bad impression to everybody. Only that.
As for Marty: I cannot speak for him, but my sense is he (i) really likes to talk about racing contacts and (ii) maybe wanted to help the new guy (me).
PLEASE keep posting your race reports. I beg you. I would feel horrible if you do not because of me. Race reports are great! I love them. And even when they generate a bit of a polemic. Why not? I learned a lot about how others can feel my moves affect them. Maybe others new to simracing like me learned as well. PLEASE have a beer on me (if you're in Sydney, I am more than happy to actually do this in first person) and keep posting as you did before!
Cheers!
-
You are a ridiculously nice fellow =).
I'm not in Sydney, but thanks for the offer.
I am just going to have to agree to disagree on the other stuff. Maybe more could have been done by both. In the end it was a non event really.
-
Hi Christopher. I am sorry you felt my pass was unfair. After race I checked my replay as I wanted to be sure I was not unfair there. For all I can see, I entered the corner clean, stayed completely on the inside line throughout the pass, and we touched when your front wheel was half a car behind mine. Also, from the replay it seems that there was plenty more space on the outside and that you turned into the inside line while I was there.
I am very sorry you felt I was not fair. As it might well be possible that my interpretation of the replay is wrong, I apologize.
Cheers!
I have always raced with the attitude that it's the passing cars responsibility to pull it off safely, it's a rule I picked up here many years ago and it has served me well. I gave you more than a cars width on the inside and it still wasn't enough. The fact of the matter is you would not have got the position without the bump and that's what I am unhappy about. You had a car advantage over me and you still felt the need to push your case through a fast tight corner, that really only has one line on lap one of a 17 lap race...
At the end of the day rubbing is racing and no harm no fowl. Just giving my opinion on the events.
I apologize. Found myself side-by-side with you during the straight and thought to go for the pass. I did not know what car you were in and whether I had an advantage. All I knew is that I would have accepted to be passed there in those circumstances and I would have not closed the line. I am a very inexperienced driver and so I am very happy to learn more from you guys. I will look again at the replay and will try to learn to improve from there. Thank you for letting me know.
I took a look at the replay and assume you guys are talking about race 2 lap 1 piratella, in the replay I cant see Grat having done anything wrong. He was inside and even ahead to the apex with 2 wheels over the line on the left yet got squeezed, I think Christoph was a bit harder done by on the exit of Aqua minerali where Simone re entered and hit him side on. I really struggle to see what Grat may have done different there as there is no reason he cant make a move there and I have been side by side through just about every turn with people at Imola without issues in the past.
Its going to slow down both cars but if you both concede some line and pace to each other you can get through all these corners side by side. In race 2 GB could have challenged me a little more earlier but he saw when he did it was slowing us both down and bringing Jeremey more into play. Seeing he had the extra ballast then he was going to be more of a sitting duck if he got slowed too much in a battle, even the time he did the small dive bomb into the chicane I saw it coming so went more left and he went more right so as to avoid contact. I was entitled to take my normal line but it would have meant we would have crashed.
But in the incident with Grat here I think he simply wasn't left racing room, also contact was before the apex so hard to say if he would have scrubbed wide coming in too hot. But seeing the collision was already there the way id see it is the outside car was at fault, contact itself was very minor too but I don't think Grat drove unfairly or gained any advantage having left as much room as he possibly could have.
I'm sorry Wally, but I disagree. I both slowed down considerably and left room for grat. I would have had to nearly stop my car if I was going to give up any more track space there, grat was passing me and I gave him room at that point it's his job to get around that corner on the piece of track he has chosen and he couldn't do it without hitting me. Closing the line?? The track went to the left and so did I... I knew he was there and did my best to give space, my steering lock was open at the point of contact. I was not trying to be defensive in that moment. I was simply trying to get through lap one. The fact that he was in front of me is proof of that. I grabbed the brakes very early in an effort to make sure we could both get through without contact.
Just because you can go side by side doesn't mean you should, The Piratella is not known for being a passing place, it's not even a good place to set one up as the next corner is also a single line entry. It has on the other hand ruined many races over the years.
"I'm sorry Wally, but I disagree..."
That wasn't my post, just to be clear.
-
The only reason I made any mention is in one of my servers grat asked me if I saw him do anything wrong in that incident, I took a look and couldn't see anything really. Its his first race and so he wants to learn from his mistakes, I am no admin here just another racer and simply gave my view on it. You made mention of it so he clearly wants to know if he is in the wrong and why but in my view this image shows inside car hasn't been left enough room.
In slow motion on a second look its even more 50/50 but still contact was so minor and basically grat had won the corner at that point the way I see it. Was he running deep on exit is the hard thing to say as contact was made early and while he still had 2 wheels on or even inside the white line. Maybe hitting the kerb has pushed him a touch wide but he doesn't exactly have one car space between you and the white line there at the point of contact so that's why I say he is squeezed from the outside and not at fault.
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/5447/8om6ixgxn7lwic64g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/8om6ixgxn7lwic6/Capture(7).JPG)
Theres no reason to not give a race report and discussing incidents is purely so we all can learn from it, heck I may be the only one that sees this incident the way I do. But without discussing such things then nobody really knows what is expected
[youtube]bpKNRQiNVDk[/youtube]
Here is the incident with Simone in the very next corner, you were much harder done by here though its purely an accident on Simone's part. He only turned back into you because it got loose on the kerbs even though he is 4 wheels off track I would see it as a racing incident especially as it didn't hurt you too much, but had he kept 2 wheels on track then the inside car would need to leave room but I'm pretty sure you don't need to leave room for cars off the track and he wasn't pushed off just ran wide on his own.
[youtube]kEH__N5855U[/youtube]
Also Matthew and Jeremy are still out finding every bug and glitch to somehow end what looks like a promising battle up front. This one here was a classic as Jeremy was nice enough to leave a landmine for his team mate, I actually saw Matthew warp infront of me at exactly the same point in one of the sessions but cant remember exactly. Guybrush and I had a big warp between us on the front straight maybe just before this incident. Luckily for us we were not drafting at the time as it would have cleaned us both up, really would be nice if the netcode has some improvement around these random dropped packets. Even just disable collision for a car that has not sent position information rather then leave a random collision landmine on a part of track.
[youtube]2MMamW1WG-g[/youtube]
[youtube]9XINXDZg3hs[/youtube]
Don't take this post in the wrong way, I purely just like to discuss incidents so that we can all have a better understanding of what should be done. Its nothing against any drivers just judging the cars in the circumstances they end up in. Any time I have an incident I first check to see if its something I did wrong, you need to be able to step back and just see it as 2 cars and be open to the fact you may also be at fault at times. It has helped me learn and become better racing others closer but then the closer you race the more likely it is there will be some contact. Guy and I have had some very close races with barely any contact which is quite a surprise, I don't even recall any time he has hit me but I gave him a good dive bomb shunt in the Abarth practice race on the last lap.
Jeremy clearly didn't want his team mate to challenge him in the race but that's a civil war they can deal with amongst themselves. Its been going on for a while as they seem to use practice as simply landmine location scouting to try and get each other on race nite.
-
The general rule of thumb is that if the front of your car is beside someone else's B-pillar at turn-in, then you have a right to the apex of that corner, but should leave racing room on the outside depending on how sharp the corner is. Marty may have a video, but an example of this was when I tried to put a move on Marty into T1 in race 2 @ Imola. Marty gave me enough room on the inside and then I gave him enough room on the outside. Unfortunately I couldn't make the pass stick though!
If someone is passing me and has the nose of their car up beside mine I will generally let them go first and then follow them into the corner and get a better exit, as I would be coming from out wider at turn-in.
It's difficult with some incidents though. I generally find it much easier to race side by side with someone of similar pace because you can predict where they will be quick and slow the same as you would be - for example Marty and I have driven laps beside each other without incident. I tend to have the most incidents with slower cars because they seem to be a lot more random in where they will be slower or quicker, etc. even when I'm doing my best to be conservative behind them.
-
I don't think anyone's taking any posts the wrong way. It's all good healthy discussion.
-
Marty: how much do you want for slow-motion race analysis every Wednesday night, reviewing the best and/or most controversial moments of Monday's race?
Maybe you can stream it live à la Stefano. I'd watch it.
-
1 Billion dollars grat, if the money is there I will gladly do it. Even just a thread where we can have basic incident analysis and people can post incidents they have I could make a video and people can discuss it. Wally covers all race start incidents and gives points penalties there, in race its basic redress which works fine but as with any incident its nearly impossible to be clear of what happened at the time. So in some cases people may not redress when they should have.
But for 1 person to watch all 24 cars over an entire race and find then analyse incidents then this would be so painful that I wouldn't wish it on anyone. If someone points out an incident though and says who, what race and when then its not hard to find this and take a look.
At one point I considered making some highlights videos of race but again its the same thing, making a video takes a few seconds finding stuff could take hours. So the only videos I have ever made basically just show my race as I know what happens and can find things of interest. The Matthew and Jeremey collision we discussed after the race on teamspeak and had they not mentioned it I would have had no idea why Matthew dropped back so far.
-
Ahahah, Marty: the simple fact that you took my joke even a little bit seriously speaks for how much passion you put into this. Amazing.
Of course what I really meant is for you to make a video or so of particular events that people talk about after race or in race reports, that would already be amazing.
BTW, loved the warping post on AC forum. Without slow motion I did not even understand which car warped. Just apparent reality seemed to be in multiple quantum states at the same time for a split instant.
-
Coming soon to race results near you... AC now outputs all contacts to the server log file, naming two parties. I will add it to the race results and graphs (I used to do this in netKar).
-
Ahahah, Marty: the simple fact that you took my joke even a little bit seriously speaks for how much passion you put into this. Amazing.
Of course what I really meant is for you to make a video or so of particular events that people talk about after race or in race reports, that would already be amazing.
BTW, loved the warping post on AC forum. Without slow motion I did not even understand which car warped. Just apparent reality seemed to be in multiple quantum states at the same time for a split instant.
If someone pays the cash I will take it very seriously, I'm amazed your even considering my proposal. :)
I have had some warp crashes when there wasn't even a car anywhere to be seen, the in replay at 1 frame you see a car disappear 300m away crash into you then continue on their way no idea anything even happened. I had this on the entry to Eau Rogue once and thought the car had a major ground collision issue but it was a car I couldn't even see that was a solid wall for 1 frame. I think its the only time I had a car in AC get fully destroyed with everything red and had no idea wtf just happened.
-
Ahahah, Marty: the simple fact that you took my joke even a little bit seriously speaks for how much passion you put into this. Amazing.
Of course what I really meant is for you to make a video or so of particular events that people talk about after race or in race reports, that would already be amazing.
BTW, loved the warping post on AC forum. Without slow motion I did not even understand which car warped. Just apparent reality seemed to be in multiple quantum states at the same time for a split instant.
If someone pays the cash I will take it very seriously, I'm amazed your even considering my proposal. :)
I have had some warp crashes when there wasn't even a car anywhere to be seen, the in replay at 1 frame you see a car disappear 300m away crash into you then continue on their way no idea anything even happened. I had this on the entry to Eau Rogue once and thought the car had a major ground collision issue but it was a car I couldn't even see that was a solid wall for 1 frame. I think its the only time I had a car in AC get fully destroyed with everything red and had no idea wtf just happened.
These things puzzle me a bit, as Stefano said clearly in a stream that the netcode should "ghost" cars if they lose data packets. But it does not seem to work too well.
-
I`d love to know who sent me on the grass,,,please anyone? 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
Jeremy clearly didn't want his team mate to challenge him in the race but that's a civil war they can deal with amongst themselves. Its been going on for a while as they seem to use practice as simply landmine location scouting to try and get each other on race nite.
Dont know what I did to deserve this poor sportsmanship from jeremy I have been nothing but welcoming to him. I picked Jeremy up off the streets when his chips were down and everyone was laughing at him for his poor hygiene. I cleaned him up and taught him the ways of life and to not use words like "bra" and "eshays" and introduced him to the world of motorsport and this is how he repays me! Its now a battle to the death and i shall get my vengeance >:(
-
But seriously jeremy stop finding all these damn glitches its now starting to effect the poeple closest to you haha :P join the ac developemnt team or something!
-
But seriously jeremy stop finding all these damn glitches its now starting to effect the poeple closest to you haha :P join the ac developemnt team or something!
This would be an ideal skin for you guys.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ctsxDBQ9GGO92GrWF0QBL0p2Tsrng-4uUZWGPJZlfqG3vP_aup3ngrS3UY3ckvRgAkI4-fx07YzLtko_wzdUeLhRzFQIh8LmPk76gCxZOuUhWsMxrY9T21Z9jXzjlXRokyO_OeY3bCWzStneMFgCVAmDvSI=w450-h200-nc)
-
haha looks good to me
-
Good material Matthew ;D ;D ;D
-
I probably should submit my application to become an AC developer... I thought my glitch finding days were over but oh how I was wrong! I will try and keep them to a minimum but no promises. I am now going to publicly apologise in advance to anyone who runs into my name... It wasnt my fault it was given to me many moons ago and it has stuck... now that it has made its way to the sim racing world it has a mind of its own... For this I am truly sorry.
-
I don't think it's a bug at all. I think Jeremy found the "drop banana skin" button.
-
Yes, and iirc "drop banana skin" button is basically where "fly 100 meters above track lever" is irl, and there is a youtube video of Fast Driver pulling both by mistake during the 16h of Baskerville in 2007. So it is spot on. Thank you Kunos.