« previous next » Print Pages: 1 2 3 4 Author Topic: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat (Read 24432 times) Bird Administrator Hero Member Posts: 2318 Karma: -666 Ysu Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #45 on: April 05, 2016, 09:39:44 AM » Quote from: Guybrush Threepwood on April 05, 2016, 08:22:31 AMQuote from: Bird on April 04, 2016, 10:13:58 PMI maybe wrong, but 7.1 is "made" out of stereo by mixing things in all sort of funny ways, i.e. software trying to guess where things should sound. That can degrade quality.Now, more importantly though...in a headphone 7.1. is madness. Think about it. You've two ears, two cans are covering it; each ear can detect sound - BUT NO DIRECTION!So you basically give directional sound to a non-directional receiver. If that's not a waste then nothing is. Quality cans over gimmicks, anytime for me (I'm using some Beyerdynamic T90's - I can only recommend them highly)I'd expect your headphones to make my dinner for 7 x the price! But for around $100 the ones I got are rated as some of the best:http://m.au.ign.com/articles/2015/04/24/hyperx-cloud-2-reviewIt seems 7.1 is good for games that are mixed with 7.1 audio in mind. I'm not sure how to tell with AC but I assume it has it as it was neat listening to other cars tyres screech and moan all around me and hear the sound pass behind me, in front, etc. with a nice transitioning effect. It seems 7.1 is particularly useful for FPS games though, and being able to identify the position of enemy based on where their footsteps are coming from, etc. 7.1 only makes sense if you actually have 7 speakers around the room - then your *two* ears can pick it up where it comes from.In headphones, it makes no difference, as I said, because you just can't tell where it's coming from with one ear. (think: you are not hearing any of the speakers in the left earpiece with your right ear!)It's a gimmick.And yes, my cans make my dinner, regularly. Sometimes even a breakfast. On the cheap, the AudioTechnica ATH-AD700 is highly recommended everywhere. It's light and sounds pretty damn good for the price. I've used them before the beyer. I've tried some other cheaper cans (i.e. below $300); sennheiser, bose, and a few really cheap ones, but they were either uncomfortable, sounded crap, or bad build quality (that was the bose!) or all of these. It's surprising how many companies try to sell audio equipment without even making an effort, sadly. And people are just buying it. Although a disclaimer here; most people can't make out a difference between mediocre and high quality sound equipment. So it may not be an issue, really - except for those who do want something better than average.Edit:oh, sorry; I did not mean to poo-poo the quality of those headphones of yours, even though it now sounds like it. I've never listened in on them, so they maybe very good - if you like the sound, it's good. The microphone certainly sounds miles ahead of what you had before But the 7.1 in headphones - that part is useless. « Last Edit: April 05, 2016, 09:44:03 AM by Bird » Logged Gratulin Hero Member Posts: 2159 Karma: 44 Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #46 on: April 05, 2016, 10:07:53 AM » @Phil.8 asked about surround sound level settings last night.http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=453.0 Logged Gratulin Hero Member Posts: 2159 Karma: 44 Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #47 on: April 05, 2016, 10:08:51 AM » Quote from: Bird on April 05, 2016, 09:39:44 AMQuote from: Guybrush Threepwood on April 05, 2016, 08:22:31 AMQuote from: Bird on April 04, 2016, 10:13:58 PMI maybe wrong, but 7.1 is "made" out of stereo by mixing things in all sort of funny ways, i.e. software trying to guess where things should sound. That can degrade quality.Now, more importantly though...in a headphone 7.1. is madness. Think about it. You've two ears, two cans are covering it; each ear can detect sound - BUT NO DIRECTION!So you basically give directional sound to a non-directional receiver. If that's not a waste then nothing is. Quality cans over gimmicks, anytime for me (I'm using some Beyerdynamic T90's - I can only recommend them highly)I'd expect your headphones to make my dinner for 7 x the price! But for around $100 the ones I got are rated as some of the best:http://m.au.ign.com/articles/2015/04/24/hyperx-cloud-2-reviewIt seems 7.1 is good for games that are mixed with 7.1 audio in mind. I'm not sure how to tell with AC but I assume it has it as it was neat listening to other cars tyres screech and moan all around me and hear the sound pass behind me, in front, etc. with a nice transitioning effect. It seems 7.1 is particularly useful for FPS games though, and being able to identify the position of enemy based on where their footsteps are coming from, etc. 7.1 only makes sense if you actually have 7 speakers around the room - then your *two* ears can pick it up where it comes from.In headphones, it makes no difference, as I said, because you just can't tell where it's coming from with one ear. (think: you are not hearing any of the speakers in the left earpiece with your right ear!)It's a gimmick.And yes, my cans make my dinner, regularly. Sometimes even a breakfast. On the cheap, the AudioTechnica ATH-AD700 is highly recommended everywhere. It's light and sounds pretty damn good for the price. I've used them before the beyer. I've tried some other cheaper cans (i.e. below $300); sennheiser, bose, and a few really cheap ones, but they were either uncomfortable, sounded crap, or bad build quality (that was the bose!) or all of these. It's surprising how many companies try to sell audio equipment without even making an effort, sadly. And people are just buying it. Although a disclaimer here; most people can't make out a difference between mediocre and high quality sound equipment. So it may not be an issue, really - except for those who do want something better than average.Edit:oh, sorry; I did not mean to poo-poo the quality of those headphones of yours, even though it now sounds like it. I've never listened in on them, so they maybe very good - if you like the sound, it's good. The microphone certainly sounds miles ahead of what you had before But the 7.1 in headphones - that part is useless.Surround sound works in headphones. Just go and have a listen Bird Logged Bird Administrator Hero Member Posts: 2318 Karma: -666 Ysu Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #48 on: April 05, 2016, 10:29:49 AM » You know what, I'll just say "I believe you" and let it go Logged Phil.8 RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 4158 Karma: 62 Δ8 Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #49 on: April 05, 2016, 10:50:18 AM » Quote from: Gratulin on April 05, 2016, 10:07:53 AM@Phil.8 asked about surround sound level settings last night.http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=453.0Thanks Logged The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older Vipergod Jr. Member Posts: 147 Karma: 6 Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #50 on: April 05, 2016, 06:22:37 PM » Sorry guys im out tonightSomething major wrong with pc, have had to do a full reinstall againWill have fixed by next round i hope Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #51 on: April 05, 2016, 06:43:20 PM » Don't forget to make sure you have the latest version of the PLP app, needed for the start lights! Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Bird Administrator Hero Member Posts: 2318 Karma: -666 Ysu Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #52 on: April 05, 2016, 07:02:42 PM » Quote from: Vipergod on April 05, 2016, 06:22:37 PMSorry guys im out tonightSomething major wrong with pc, have had to do a full reinstall againWill have fixed by next round i hopeFarkenell, your luck really isn't up with these bloody PCs. Do you need any help? Logged Vipergod Jr. Member Posts: 147 Karma: 6 Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #53 on: April 05, 2016, 07:45:48 PM » Na m8 seems ok ATMI reckon the graphics card has fried it got real hot the other dayLast night it went into meltdown beeped its head of then got windows error could not rebootfunny though it just finished a windows update hopeing thats all is wrong (and maybe card GTX550TI bit old now) Logged Bird Administrator Hero Member Posts: 2318 Karma: -666 Ysu Re: S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat « Reply #54 on: April 06, 2016, 07:38:05 AM » Maybe it has reached the end of its life. Best of luck! Logged Print Pages: 1 2 3 4 « previous next » Xtreme Gaming Network / Simulation Racing Leagues / Assetto Corsa / Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights (Moderator: Wally) / S11R1: Barbagallo pre-race chat