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Torques for the win.
« on: November 15, 2019, 01:30:56 PM »
Try these two cars I quickly whipped up. Identical except for the drivetrains in each.
One makes 150Nm and the other makes 600Nm and yet they lap and drive the same.(at least too close to call)

caveat: The sounds will make a big difference to the feel of each car and the friction and inertia values for the drivelines can't be made precise.

Statements like: 'Power for top speed but torque for acceleration' and similar is what I am calling out as BullShit!

« Last Edit: December 24, 2020, 12:04:28 PM by Seanus »
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Re: Torques
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2019, 04:21:57 PM »
That's an interesting experiment. There's generally a lot of confusion around torque and power. I've certainly seen it in discussions about calculating optimal shift points.
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Re: Torques
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2019, 05:56:19 PM »
I remember that thread, over at the official forum? Turned into a lot of people violently agreeing with each other.
Somewhat solidified the idea of my 'Torque is meaningless' line I add to my mods, as to the lay man that's exactly what it is.
Torque, of course, is important for thermal and mechanical efficiency but even then the number alone means nothing, you need to know everything that is contributing to that number.

Remember that at any given speed, for a given Power, the Torque at the rear wheels is identical, no matter what the engine may be producing.
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Re: Torques for the win.
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2020, 12:04:46 PM »
Bumped for the win.
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Re: Torques for the win.
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2020, 04:20:56 PM »
Around a flatout circuit (Dover), no difference.
Bring in hairpins (Martinsville), 2x torque 0.2 quicker (and wheelspin becomes an issue, could probably go quicker with setup adjustments).
Same setup, same conditions.
Torque does matter for overcoming inertia.

This doesn't surprise me, given F1's investment.
The V12 had better power, the V8 better torque.
That's why they went to the best (compromise) of both worlds, the V10.

2+2=√16

 

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