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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on March 01, 2017, 07:54:55 PM
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Car: Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
Season Schedule - starts Mar 14
R1: Mar 14, Paul Ricard WTCC: 2 x 20 laps [DOWNLOAD (http://explore-game.com/product/paul-ricard-v0-9-7/)]
R2: Mar 21, Barcelona GP: 1 x 32 laps [OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/mv9y8vyp0psi4r4/Barcelona_GP_MOTO_OSRW_36pits_AC1.7.rar)]
-- Mar 28 BYE --
R3: Apr 4, Monza: 2 x 16 laps [OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/2n2my7wm6syes25/Monza_36pits_AC1.7.rar)]
R4: Apr 11, VIR Full Course: 1 x 32 laps [DOWNLOAD (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/virginia-international-raceway.11892)]
R5: Apr 18, Silverstone GP: 2 x 14 laps [OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/sht62uynkd02u1s/Silverstone_all_32pits_AC1.7.rar)]
R6: Apr 25, Magione: 1 x 49 laps [OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/8y9777ekb4chu4o/Magione_32pits_AC1.7.rar)]
R7: May 2, New Jersey Motorsports Park: 2 x 28 laps [DOWNLOAD (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/new-jersey-motorsports-park-lightning.14212/)] (Version 1.1, updated 6/4/17)
Qualifying starts at 8:30pm Eastern time, and there is usually a long practice session before that, starting from about 6:00 pm.
Format
One 15 minute qualifying session. Race 1 grid is set by qualifying position; race 2 grid is set by race 1 finishing position.
Sprint rounds: 2 races of approx 30 mins each. No compulsory pit stop. No refuelling allowed.
Enduro rounds: 1 race of approx 60 mins, with 1 compulsory pit stop where tyres must be changed. There is no refuelling allowed. There is no pit window (other than you can't pit on the final lap).
Fuel rate: 1x
Tyre wear rate: 1x
Points
Sprint rounds: 32 down to 1
Enduro rounds: 64 down to 2
1 bonus point for pole position.
1 bonus point for fastest race lap (2 points in enduros)
Penalties
Opening lap major infringements (e.g. avoidable rear hits, unsafe track re-entry causing accidents etc), will be awarded TBD kg of penalty ballast for the first race of the next round only (or a point penalty in the last round).
Weather
Weather will be as per the real world weather at the track on the day + 5 degrees (temperature and cloud cover only). I'll bump up the real world (northern hemisphere) temps a bit so the track isn't too cold.
One thing I will introduce this season is a lap minimum to be classified a finisher. You will need to complete 75% of the race laps to be classified a finisher and to get any points. This is to encourage people to push on if they crash, need to repair damage etc.
1. Wally
2. Seanus
3. Shameless
4. Joe
5. Grat
6. Kcender87
7. RussG
8. Bacchulum
9. Shayne
10. AJ
11. Mael
12. Marty
13. Simone
14. Diehard
15. Bird
16. Doobs
17. Phil.8
18. Jimmy (formerly Skaife)
19. Slow_As
20. Rob
21. ab156
22. MG
23. Freezer
24. Keith
25. UnFknBLievable
26. Cursed
27. Nith
28. Chap111
29. Matthew111
30. Jeremy
31. bju90
32. Bafs17
Reserves
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The poll finishes on the 8th and the season starts on the 7th? And we have a fun run on the 7th.. Did you need a scotch too Wally? :)
As long as the poll finishes on a Friday before the Season start to allow for practise I'd be happy.
Sign me up though please.
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The poll finishes on the 8th and the season starts on the 7th? And we have a fun run on the 7th.. Did you need a scotch too Wally? :)
As long as the poll finishes on a Friday before the Season start to allow for practise I'd be happy.
Sign me up though please.
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Yes pls
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The poll finishes on the 8th and the season starts on the 7th? And we have a fun run on the 7th.. Did you need a scotch too Wally? :)
As long as the poll finishes on a Friday before the Season start to allow for practise I'd be happy.
Sign me up though please.
Fixed! Yes, I need a scotch.
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Definitely in, and great idea on the 75% rule.
I know you tried giving points to only top 8 or 10 (which I liked) and did not go to well with some. I completely understand the reason why, so I am not pushing for any of that. But what abut the top 15 or so? I just do not think it is nice for my points to depend to much on how many people turned up that day: I have a few times arrived last and made 20% of the points of a podium finisher just because that week many people did not race. I am sure there is a sweet spot somewhere so that everybody fights for points, but if you get your unlucky race, you actually get a nice 0 ;) Might be worth trying.
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in yall
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I'm in ...
I have signed on the dotted line below ;D
RussG
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Yes Wally. ;)
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I will hopefully be able to join in. I was a bit slack with sending the wheel back and only just sent it off the other day. auspost shows the package was delivered this afternoon so they are only just looking at it now. Still, being two weeks away, I'm hoping I'll have a working setup by then.
I don't know what is going to happen with my wheel base, whether it will be repaired or replaced. Whatever they do, I just hope they do it fast so I can get a full season in.
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I am going to wait until I see what we will be racing, cause I don't think i could handle a season in the Porsche
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Yes please Wally :)
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I am going to wait until I see what we will be racing, cause I don't think i could handle a season in the Porsche
Just did a few races in the street cars and was awesome fun. Give the 911 GT3 RS a go; I think you'll like it 8)
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As usual :)
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As usual :)
Is the full sentence "As usual I will crash the McLaren?"
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Im in for this one. ;)
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Im in for this one. ;)
For this one... but just this one. Only to try. Who knows? Maybe I like racing online. I always say I should try everything once... :-X
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ok let me kick some xgn ARSES
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Definitely in, and great idea on the 75% rule.
I know you tried giving points to only top 8 or 10 (which I liked) and did not go to well with some. I completely understand the reason why, so I am not pushing for any of that. But what abut the top 15 or so? I just do not think it is nice for my points to depend to much on how many people turned up that day: I have a few times arrived last and made 20% of the points of a podium finisher just because that week many people did not race. I am sure there is a sweet spot somewhere so that everybody fights for points, but if you get your unlucky race, you actually get a nice 0 ;) Might be worth trying.
I dunno... I know what you mean, how sometimes the last person can still get 15 points or so, and other weeks less than 5. But I kind of look at a that as a "turning up bonus". I know in the past it's been a bit demotivating to know you're racing for zero points. I'll leave it how it is, because it's better for people to get extra points rather than to be demotivated by racing for no points.
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I am going to wait until I see what we will be racing, cause I don't think i could handle a season in the Porsche
Isn't racing the Porsche better than racing nothing at all?
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Count me in
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I'll try to find some time, again. Put me on - as reserve if you're full.
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As usual :)
Is the full sentence "As usual I will crash the McLaren?"
An evil spirit lives in that Mclaren, the RUF was like a MX5 compared to the Mclaren!
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I'll try to find some time, again. Put me on - as reserve if you're full.
Cool. These days, with more pit boxes, there's no such thing as full.
Make sure you download the latest PLP app from the sticky.
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Please add me, thanks Wally. :)
Cheers
Darren
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I'll try to find some time, again. Put me on - as reserve if you're full.
......k`noth!!!!!
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ok let me kick some xgn ARSES
I bet that's not all you want to do with them!
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ok let me kick some xgn ARSES
I bet that's not all you want to do with them!
wrong bet mate!!
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I am going to wait until I see what we will be racing, cause I don't think i could handle a season in the Porsche
Isn't racing the Porsche better than racing nothing at all?
sigh :-\, true, sign me up
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I am making another comeback to sim racing for this season (under a new name) count me in!
Jimmy
(formerly Skaife)
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Ill be in this season thanks Wally
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I'll try to find some time, again. Put me on - as reserve if you're full.
Nice to see you back mate, with the osrw mods we really shouldnt have much issues letting anyone available on a night a start.
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I am going to wait until I see what we will be racing, cause I don't think i could handle a season in the Porsche
Isn't racing the Porsche better than racing nothing at all?
sigh :-\, true, sign me up
For a moment I thought I'd miss my battles-mate. Glad to hear it wasn't true---though I really doubt these next few months I'll be much of a challenge to beat... :(
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Yes please Wally.
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ok let me kick some xgn ARSES
I bet that's not all you want to do with them!
wrong bet mate!!
Yeah it's a fact, you can't bet on things we all know! ;)
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I am back for more. Great racing here.
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I will try this one please Wally.
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I am back for more. Great racing here.
YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....S!!!!!!!!
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I am making another comeback to sim racing for this season (under a new name) count me in!
Jimmy
(formerly Skaife)
BULL!!!! skaife is tough!!!
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I am making another comeback to sim racing for this season (under a new name) count me in!
Jimmy
(formerly Skaife)
Welcome back.
I will try this one please Wally.
Excellent.
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Count me in Wally....
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I'll take up a grid position :)
Sorry for being absent the last few weeks... works been crazy. Hopefully that's all settled down now.
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Nice to see 24 already signed up and yes I know the limit is not 24, I wonder what season has had the most sign ups and also what is the largest turnout for a Tuesday league race. I remember seeing over 30 signed up a few seasons but don't recall seeing more then 24 in a server yet, it would be great to have 30 or more on a race night but to actually come close to filling an OSRW grid limit we would likely need 40+ to sign up due to the usual percentage unable to make each night. This simply means even if people see 30 sign ups not to get discouraged as they should still easily get a start if available on a race night.
If we get very large numbers of sign ups then it would need better notice from those unable to make a particular round to ensure those wanting a start can always get in. I am unsure what the grid limit or server limit would be as we haven't ever had many more to even really need to run the OSRW mod versions of most tracks. Maybe the next season we will get a bigger turnout but there are always reasons some cant make a night so mostly we need more to keep signing in to allow for this and hope to get some larger grids next season.
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Didn't I hear a rumor ARSE and XGN may combine?
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I've been a lazy bastard and haven't put out the word yet. I should do that tho, I was only going to whisper it to those that attended our seasons over there often. We had the same issues where the entry list would fill up but only half of those ever showed up.
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Didn't I hear a rumor ARSE and XGN may combine?
I did hear this a while back, it would be nice and raise the grids considerably. I dont know how many regulars they have but with us getting around 24 including a couple of their guys already with them joining we should be getting closer to 32 starters most weeks which would make for some fun big pack racing. ;D
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Didn't I hear a rumor ARSE and XGN may combine?
I did hear this a while back, it would be nice and raise the grids considerably. I dont know how many regulars they have but with us getting around 24 including a couple of their guys already with them joining we should be getting closer to 32 starters most weeks which would make for some fun big pack racing. ;D
There was about 6-8 that I would extend the offer too initially, that were always showing up each week.
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I'll sign up, I'm enjoying the Thursday nights so I'll see how we go for tuesdays :)
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Based on the SuperCar Cup win.
Take a look at this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ozr8C0yIsA_6CIlBZ9KvJ0XhtfOljDtiSrXOLI43AkU/edit?usp=sharing) Wally and tell me what you think.
I've seeded the current signed up drivers using your all time stat's and grouped them in to clusters, you could probably do a better job with a little statistical wizardry.
The car time and rankings are very provisional as I've only run one AI based test so far, but more to follow. Cars could also take a weighting on how difficult they are to drive.
I do actually like that idea of driver and car ranking, if we had a supercar season then one option could be to rank all drivers and then limit them to only their rank car or lower. For example as that table shows an A grade driver could only chose a car thats ranked A but then someone ranked C could chose A,B or C ranked cars and An E ranked driver could chose any car.
This would simply limit the quickest guys from also picking the quickest car but lower ranked drivers may not necessarily be quickest in the quickest car as it may be a bit trickier to drive so they can chose a car they are more comfortable with and that is best for them.
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Didn't I hear a rumor ARSE and XGN may combine?
I did hear this a while back, it would be nice and raise the grids considerably. I dont know how many regulars they have but with us getting around 24 including a couple of their guys already with them joining we should be getting closer to 32 starters most weeks which would make for some fun big pack racing. ;D
There was about 6-8 that I would extend the offer too initially, that were always showing up each week.
Go for it! There's room.
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Based on the SuperCar Cup win.
Take a look at this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ozr8C0yIsA_6CIlBZ9KvJ0XhtfOljDtiSrXOLI43AkU/edit?usp=sharing) Wally and tell me what you think.
I've seeded the current signed up drivers using your all time stat's and grouped them in to clusters, you could probably do a better job with a little statistical wizardry.
The car time and rankings are very provisional as I've only run one AI based test so far, but more to follow. Cars could also take a weighting on how difficult they are to drive.
I do actually like that idea of driver and car ranking, if we had a supercar season then one option could be to rank all drivers and then limit them to only their rank car or lower. For example as that table shows an A grade driver could only chose a car thats ranked A but then someone ranked C could chose A,B or C ranked cars and An E ranked driver could chose any car.
This would simply limit the quickest guys from also picking the quickest car but lower ranked drivers may not necessarily be quickest in the quickest car as it may be a bit trickier to drive so they can chose a car they are more comfortable with and that is best for them.
This is similar in concept to Bird's old car buying system. Faster cars cost more, and the lower you finish, the more money you win. The hard thing here is ranking the drivers, as those all time stats are gathered over many different types of cars and also handicap systems. For instance, from a quick eyeball of GzeroD's list, Mael should certainly be higher going by recent results. Interesting idea though.
I wouldn't want people to have to swap cars too often though. People don't like that in general, preferring to settle into a car.
I'm leaning towards letting people choose whatever car they enjoy driving, really. I'd hate to force Phil to drive a Porsche ;)
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Nice to see 24 already signed up and yes I know the limit is not 24, I wonder what season has had the most sign ups and also what is the largest turnout for a Tuesday league race. I remember seeing over 30 signed up a few seasons but don't recall seeing more then 24 in a server yet, it would be great to have 30 or more on a race night but to actually come close to filling an OSRW grid limit we would likely need 40+ to sign up due to the usual percentage unable to make each night. This simply means even if people see 30 sign ups not to get discouraged as they should still easily get a start if available on a race night.
If we get very large numbers of sign ups then it would need better notice from those unable to make a particular round to ensure those wanting a start can always get in. I am unsure what the grid limit or server limit would be as we haven't ever had many more to even really need to run the OSRW mod versions of most tracks. Maybe the next season we will get a bigger turnout but there are always reasons some cant make a night so mostly we need more to keep signing in to allow for this and hope to get some larger grids next season.
Biggest turnout (not signup) was 26 in the Maserati GT4 season.
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You could also simplify it and just rate the top group of quicker guys A and simply not let them chose any of the top 3 cars. The ruf, Lambo or gt3 rs and let everyone else choose whatever car they want. The rest of the cars seem a bit closer then these 3 which in the current build seem a bit quicker at least using just this track as an example.
At Spa I am 2 to 3.5 seconds faster in those top 3 cars then all the rest. Racing the nismo gtr against joe in the gt3rs made for some great racing in practice.
Race pace wise I couldnt quite match him, maybe about .5 per lap down but felt I still had a chance plus this is likely the worst track for the gtr so any other track thats not Monza it would be a bit more competitive and not the slowest car in the field probably.
If I had one of the top 3 cars I would still be getting 2 to 3 seconds per lap on him so it would split the field a bit more. Its like if in f1 they only put rookies in the merc, ferrari and red bull and the top drivers in the other cars. I wonder how that would work to spice up the racing ;)
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I'd like to join in too, please.
I'm new around here but not new to AC or this online racing business. Most recently I'm a regular on the ARSE forums and their leagues when they run them.
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Based on the SuperCar Cup win.
Take a look at this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ozr8C0yIsA_6CIlBZ9KvJ0XhtfOljDtiSrXOLI43AkU/edit?usp=sharing) Wally and tell me what you think.
I've seeded the current signed up drivers using your all time stat's and grouped them in to clusters, you could probably do a better job with a little statistical wizardry.
The car time and rankings are very provisional as I've only run one AI based test so far, but more to follow. Cars could also take a weighting on how difficult they are to drive.
I like this idea for Thursay season
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I'd like to join in too, please.
I'm new around here but not new to AC or this online racing business. Most recently I'm a regular on the ARSE forums and their leagues when they run them.
Hi Cursed, and welcome to XGN. I've sent you a PM with details.
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Based on the SuperCar Cup win.
Take a look at this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ozr8C0yIsA_6CIlBZ9KvJ0XhtfOljDtiSrXOLI43AkU/edit?usp=sharing) Wally and tell me what you think.
I've seeded the current signed up drivers using your all time stat's and grouped them in to clusters, you could probably do a better job with a little statistical wizardry.
The car time and rankings are very provisional as I've only run one AI based test so far, but more to follow. Cars could also take a weighting on how difficult they are to drive.
I do actually like that idea of driver and car ranking, if we had a supercar season then one option could be to rank all drivers and then limit them to only their rank car or lower. For example as that table shows an A grade driver could only chose a car thats ranked A but then someone ranked C could chose A,B or C ranked cars and An E ranked driver could chose any car.
This would simply limit the quickest guys from also picking the quickest car but lower ranked drivers may not necessarily be quickest in the quickest car as it may be a bit trickier to drive so they can chose a car they are more comfortable with and that is best for them.
This is similar in concept to Bird's old car buying system. Faster cars cost more, and the lower you finish, the more money you win.
I remember this .. . it added a whole other dimension to the season, trying to plan you spend based around tracks etc.
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In for this season as well
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I can understand if people don't want to keep changing cars, but if they're good drivers, they should be able to race anything.
Having said that, a good notice is required so that drivers who are changing cars can get some practice to dial in their car.
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Are we looking to do Australian tracks - in keeping with the Aus Porsche cup theme (if Porsche cup wins the popular vote) - or a bit of everything?
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Are we looking to do Australian tracks - in keeping with the Aus Porsche cup theme (if Porsche cup wins the popular vote) - or a bit of everything?
No Australian tracks this time, as we tend to stick to AC tracks or very high standard mod tracks. It will be a mix of different styles of track.
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I can understand if people don't want to keep changing cars, but if they're good drivers, they should be able to race anything.
Having said that, a good notice is required so that drivers who are changing cars can get some practice to dial in their car.
On a similar note I would think if it were a season where people were having to change cars regularly, it might be an idea to have fixed setups.
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I can understand if people don't want to keep changing cars, but if they're good drivers, they should be able to race anything.
Having said that, a good notice is required so that drivers who are changing cars can get some practice to dial in their car.
On a similar note I would think if it were a season where people were having to change cars regularly, it might be an idea to have fixed setups.
I really wouldn't think there is any reason to change cars regularly in these best to get 1 car and stick with it. In the supercars 5 of them are very close but 3 are a bit too quick for the rest it seems. So other then having cars that arent exactly evenly matched you could limit the 3 fastest cars from the top 50% of the field with the guys regularly a couple seconds off lead pace could do with the boost those 3 cars can give. Regarding fixed setups the supercars are very limited in setup anyway just alignment and pressures and I dont see much point in limiting those. Setups really arent going to make a big difference in these cars and if they were fixed it just means the tyres will be out for some depending on driving style more then anything but actual lap time differences between front and back of pack would be pretty much the same.
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I am actually with AJ about this, whether we change cars or not. If we really need to make a "rich a***oles driving like dad will pay the bill" season, then let's do it properly. Of course tyre pressure should be left free: you can adjust tyre pressure at the local 7eleven. That, but only that.
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I am actually with AJ about this, whether we change cars or not. If we really need to make a "rich a***oles driving like dad will pay the bill" season, then let's do it properly. Of course tyre pressure should be left free: you can adjust tyre pressure at the local 7eleven. That, but only that.
I cant say vie been to many track days where people don't adjust as much on their cars as they possibly can easily. Rich a***holes will have everything possibly tuned to maximize their car but money doesn't buy skills so it rarely will make any difference even if they have a full race team to analyse data and make these minor changes for them.
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I am actually with AJ about this, whether we change cars or not. If we really need to make a "rich a***oles driving like dad will pay the bill" season, then let's do it properly. Of course tyre pressure should be left free: you can adjust tyre pressure at the local 7eleven. That, but only that.
I cant say vie been to many track days where people don't adjust as much on their cars as they possibly can easily. Rich a***holes will have everything possibly tuned to maximize their car but money doesn't buy skills so it rarely will make any difference even if they have a full race team to analyse data and make these minor changes for them.
Who talked of track days? ;)
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I am actually with AJ about this, whether we change cars or not. If we really need to make a "rich a***oles driving like dad will pay the bill" season, then let's do it properly. Of course tyre pressure should be left free: you can adjust tyre pressure at the local 7eleven. That, but only that.
Guessing you aren't keen on these cars grat ;D after the maserati and praga i find them a refreshing change.
The rs has more setup options that most with wing and arb.
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I am actually with AJ about this, whether we change cars or not. If we really need to make a "rich a***oles driving like dad will pay the bill" season, then let's do it properly. Of course tyre pressure should be left free: you can adjust tyre pressure at the local 7eleven. That, but only that.
Guessing you aren't keen on these cars grat ;D after the maserati and praga i find them a refreshing change.
The rs has more setup options that most with wing and arb.
Eheheh, you are right: not too keen, no. Lately I find it almost annoying to drive most street cars. I used to like a lot racing street cars, though mostly the slow ones. But I seem not to see why supercars are so loved: hyper-fast on the straights, then 150m of agonizing braking constantly hanging on the ABS, followed by 10 seconds of understeer. If you are lucky, some of them let you end up on the other side of the apex with just the right angle to straighten it up with a bit of extra throttle. I am not saying they are easy! I barely know what it means: nothing is easy unless you can constantly match GB's laps in it. I am just saying I find them a little boring during the week. Perhaps they are going to be fun racing, but I can't really get myself to try to find lap time before then.
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I think it always pays to think more about what racing the cars would be like rather than hotlapping the cars. That could end up being two different things.
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I think it always pays to think more about what racing the cars would be like rather than hotlapping the cars. That could end up being two different things.
Indeed I said so... mine was just the reason why I would be in favour of fixed setups. That said, I have got the impression racing cars are better for racing as well, but I am no expert racer, so maybe I am wrong.
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In general, these road cars don't have much you can change setup-wise anyway, so I wouldn't really see the value of fixed setups for those types of cars.
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As has been said though, some of the cars, such as the 911 GT3 RS have more adjustability than others...
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Some have more adjustablitiy but thats just the way the cars are. Having an adjustable wing really makes little difference as the few cars that have this barely need a rear wing to begin with as they dont generate that much front downforce so adding it just creates understeer and drag. The ruf needs some aero as it has so much power but its still the worst handling of all the cars There are 8 cars so if you want a simpler one dont chose the few that allow arb or aero changes. ;)
I still find it funny when some people say race cars are better for racing but then want to limit setups on very basic supercars. The main point of a race car is its adjustability and people that dont like dealing with setups would be better off running more basic road cars like this with minimal setup options then race cars.
In practice ive had more close racing in a bunch of these then I had in the last few seasons. The big difference between these cars and say the maserati gt4 is it ran on slicks with a bit more aero and adjustability. That is what gt4 is all about racing lightly tuned street cars on slicks. ;)
Setup is a very small part of these cars its mostly just how you drive them. Without lots of aero and slick tyres braking and cornering speeds will be lower. They are also fairly quick but these slower cornering speeds and longer brake distances make for better racing I think as its easier to drive very close to others then in most other cars.
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If you don't think the adjustments that can be made would make that much of a difference then that's fine, it was just a discussion point and not me trying to say "this has to happen".
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If you don't think the adjustments that can be made would make that much of a difference then that's fine, it was just a discussion point and not me trying to say "this has to happen".
I know its just a suggestion I just wonder what is the reasoning or end purpose of fixing setups on such basic cars. The adjustments are very minor and most should be able to understand how to adjust these to make a slight improvement in balance. Limiting the basic setup just means the car will suit some driving styles more then others but have no real effect on overall perfomance. Being able to make these small adjustments means anyone with basic knowledge can make the car a little better for the track tosuit their driving style.
Road cars are pretty basic setup wise you want to get pressures close to optimal and get tyre temps close to ideal too. Camber pretty much as much as you can add then adjust a little for balance front or rear.
What advantage are you seeing in fixing the setups for these cars? If you dont understand the ideas for what and why to change it there is plenty of info around or people can simply ask and many here will gladly help or share setups for any of these cars.
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Some have more adjustablitiy but thats just the way the cars are. Having an adjustable wing really makes little difference as the few cars that have this barely need a rear wing to begin with as they dont generate that much front downforce so adding it just creates understeer and drag. The ruf needs some aero as it has so much power but its still the worst handling of all the cars There are 8 cars so if you want a simpler one dont chose the few that allow arb or aero changes. ;)
I still find it funny when some people say race cars are better for racing but then want to limit setups on very basic supercars. The main point of a race car is its adjustability and people that dont like dealing with setups would be better off running more basic road cars like this with minimal setup options then race cars.
In practice ive had more close racing in a bunch of these then I had in the last few seasons. The big difference between these cars and say the maserati gt4 is it ran on slicks with a bit more aero and adjustability. That is what gt4 is all about racing lightly tuned street cars on slicks. ;)
Setup is a very small part of these cars its mostly just how you drive them. Without lots of aero and slick tyres braking and cornering speeds will be lower. They are also fairly quick but these slower cornering speeds and longer brake distances make for better racing I think as its easier to drive very close to others then in most other cars.
I would never suggest no setup for racing cars, indeed. The only reason I mentioned it for the supercars is I just thought it could be fun to race in "cars" and force us to take them as they are, with all the bad sides of them being road cars. That was the rationale: street cars in just street conditions, street tyres, and street setup. But I do not pretend it to be a mainstream idea and perfectly understand the counterarguments you made. But since AJ mentioned it, I thought I'd say it could be fun. :)
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If running street tyres we would need a different set of cars, most of these only have hyper road and so the others need semi slicks to be competitive. Setups are so limited I really dont see the point in fixing those. Its not like they are rental cars and for someone that prefers race cars I still find it funny they would want to limit even the minor setup options there are in these. But people that simply dont like the cars at all like Grat has said maybe his goal is to make sure nobody likes them, maybe force fixed setups with positive camber and max pressures. ;)
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Maybe the actual balancing rule is that the slowest racers get to do the setup for the fastest racers ;D
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But people that simply dont like the cars at all like Grat has said maybe his goal is to make sure nobody likes them, maybe force fixed setups with positive camber and max pressures. ;)
Ahahaah! Had not thought of that.... but good idea! Cunning! :)
@Wally: supercar season should be run exclusively in reverse gear with inverted success ballast, 83% grip, dark clouds, and all while we play over teamspeak a disc of Simone singing old Italian songs!
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But people that simply dont like the cars at all like Grat has said maybe his goal is to make sure nobody likes them, maybe force fixed setups with positive camber and max pressures. ;)
Ahahaah! Had not thought of that.... but good idea! Cunning! :)
@Wally: supercar season should be run exclusively in reverse gear with inverted success ballast, 83% grip, dark clouds, and all while we play over teamspeak a disc of Simone singing old Italian songs!
I like it! That's season 17 right there.
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Chap is in Wally. ;)
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Chap is in Wally. ;)
Together with Gratulin?
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Chap is in Wally. ;)
Check.
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me and jeremy should be good to go
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First post is updated with the schedule, format etc.
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Ha ha, high opinion of Porsche owners? :)
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@Wally: FYI, rumors in AC forum is that next update will include mandatory pit stops and a pitconfig-like app.
Link: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-519#post-850787
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@Wally: FYI, rumors in AC forum is that next update will include mandatory pit stops and a pitconfig-like app.
Link: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-519#post-850787 (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-519#post-850787)
Thanks Grat. AC sure keeps admins on their toes with all the changes.
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@Wally: FYI, rumors in AC forum is that next update will include mandatory pit stops and a pitconfig-like app.
Link: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-official-news-from-the-social-networks-thread.35257/page-519#post-850787
Awesome!
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I would like to join.
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I would like to join.
Welcome.
Have a careful read of this post:http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=307.0 (http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=307.0)
It should tell you most of what you need to know. I've PM'd you the passwords. Make sure you send me your GUID, e.g. 76561198011249999
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I'm a bit late but if there's room i'll be in.
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I'm a bit late but if there's room i'll be in.
You're in!
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Wally, I'll be out again this race and probably for the remainder of the season, so you can give my spot away if needed.
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Wally, I'll be out again this race and probably for the remainder of the season, so you can give my spot away if needed.
There's plenty of spots Rob, but thanks for the offer. I hope you get your hardware sorted out.