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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on March 25, 2015, 10:23:12 PM
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Where? Nordschleife Endurance
What?
BMW M3 GT2
BMW Z4 GT3
Corvette C7R
Ferrari 458 GT2
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Mercedes SLS AMG GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3
How long?
10 laps (approx 1 hr 20 mins)
I don't know the fuel loads yet, but I'll rig the fuel multiplier so you'll have to stop twice (normal tyre wear). I'll be away, but I'll set the server up on the previous Sunday with a 1 hour combined practice/qually session, then a 10 lap race. You can restart the session whenever you want to, whoever gets on the server first on that Tuesday night. The server will be passworded, and there will only be THREE OF EACH TYPE OF CAR for 21 SLOTS. It will be first in, best dressed.
This will be on the smaller practice server, not the regular server, but it will still be called "www.xgn.com.au (http://www.xgn.com.au)[/color] TUE RACE".[/size]
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All cars in Wally's list are allowed and also the p4/5 can be used. Laptime wise these are all capable of fairly similar times around the nords so just choose one you feel like doing the 10 laps in.
1 Marty SLS GT3
2 Perch Nismo GTR GT3
3 Dick Forrest MP4 12C GT3
4 UnfkNbelievable C7R GTE
5 Guybrush Threepwood Nismo GTR GT3
6 RJM M3 GT2
7 Peter Reid P4/5
8 Grubbet 458 GT2
9 Rolz Mclaren MP4 GT3
10 Rob MP4 GT3
11 Shameless C7R
12 Gorgak SLS GT3
13 StanDaam Nismo GT3
14 Bird SLS GT3
15 Joe 458 GT2
16 Krahl 458 GT2
17 Paps MP4 GT3
18 Glynn C7R GTE
19 Gratulin Z4 GT3
20 Matthew Z4 GT3
21 Jeremy 458 GT2
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Race will be 10 laps at 118% fuel use this gives some cars 7 laps of fuel and a couple can do 8 laps. This will give a bit of an option in strategy and how you want to run your race.
All xgn guys can get the pass but all others need to pass a time on one of my other servers and so there shouldn't be many poor drivers in there. So far all in these servers have been good with some good racing but much smaller fields in general still compared to the open server madness.
Ptracker is needed so I can make sure all have the correct track surface file as the checksum is broken in game atm but ptracker/stracker allows me to view the track checksum of all users that have posted a lap. I noticed that splits may not be correct as it may depend on which nords layout you ran last in SP mode with ptracker running. Make sure you all have the latest version 2.6.8 this is the version that works best with current build of AC and will show correct splits.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731
Car selections must be made by 7pm on Monday 20th, any person that hasnt selected a car I will give a random car to mix up the grid.
Here is the stracker link to the practice server best laps, anyone that has incorrect split times is because they are running an older version of ptracker. If you have ptracker and not showing splits you will need to run an offline valid lap to get splits to work in mp servers on the track.
http://52.64.20.230:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-endurance&cars=bmw_m3_gt2,bmw_z4_gt3,ferrari_458_gt2,ks_corvette_c7r,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,p4-5_2011&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
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If you want to set something up along those lines on your server, then go ahead Marty. It will be easier/safer to have someone around who can tweak/restart the server or whatever on the night.
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I will be glad to do it and love racing nords, just wonder what sort of damage level people want I normally always run 100% but as not everyone is so familiar with nods and over that distance it would be nice to have a few people finish.
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I would have run the usual 60%. You have to give people some fear of crashing :)
I wondered if the P4/5 might not be the same as the GT cars in terms of its fuel tank. From memory, it's got a smaller tank.
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Ok will need to check that p 4/5 and if its range is much less it may need to be scrapped. Damage is a great deterent at Nords as gt aero damage can cost you 30 seconds or more per lap. Its just annoying when someone rear ends you into t1 and 2 of the enduro layout needing a 9 minute lap back to pits for a 1 minute repair. After all there are 170 turns and if its 10 laps thats 1700 turns so youd hope people will take some care on lap one.
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Where? Nordschleife Endurance
10 laps (approx 1 hr 20 mins)
Gasp... so... awesome... can't... breath....
Keen as! ;D
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I wonder if it may be better to prebook a grid with limited cars say 3 of each and if p4/5 doesnt get in there will be 4 of 3 others to allow 24 cars.
That way people can make a setup and choose a car they are used to. Around Nords the gt2 and gt3 cars are fairly close just gt2 much quicker in the twisty bits and gt3 have 20kmh on them in the quick sections.
In a qualy lap gt2 have the advantage of softer tyres but in a race they will all need medium tyres or harde depending on how long people want to run. This is where I think setting fuel at a level that no car can do 10 laps but if they could do 9 it may let someone have a different strategy option maybe run some softs and hards.
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My PC better be ready by then. :-X
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My PC better be ready by then. :-X
Nearly a month away!
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The case I want won't be in stock until the 16th.
4-5 days build/delivery after that :(
(the weekend screws the numbers)
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The case I want won't be in stock until the 16th.
4-5 days build/delivery after that :(
(the weekend screws the numbers)
Then you need to learn Windows 8.1 ;)
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The case I want won't be in stock until the 16th.
4-5 days build/delivery after that :(
(the weekend screws the numbers)
Then you need to learn Windows 8.1 ;)
My wife literally cried when I bought her a new laptop with Windows 8 as she couldn't get it to stop opening apps :D
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Nah, I specified Win7. ;)
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If you want to set something up along those lines on your server, then go ahead Marty. .
Yes, and while you're at it scrap all the other cars, lets just make it an all Nismo grid? ;) That car is an absolute riot at the ring and is the reason I'm posting at 1AM. I was going to bed an hour ago but couldn't resist one more lap.. one more lap.. one.. more... ::)
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I think it may be best to just have a prebooked grid for this and people can post here their car of choice, I will do some fuel mileage tests over the next week in all cars to see how far each can go and what fuel multi would be needed or maybe if we could keep it at 100% and just do 1 more lap. Only car I tested so far was the m3 gt2 and this had 11.05l per lap with a tank of 110l so it would be very close to making 10 laps.
Ideally I would want no car to do more then 9 laps so that will be the aim with fuel multi to give some strategic options or maybe make it an 11 lap race and make sure no car can do more then 10 laps. Tyres will also be an issue so even if you can run most of the race on a tank it may be better to split the load on tyres if the harder option loses more time plus the extra fuel being carried. I think around this track all the gt cars are possible of lap times within a few seconds of eachother if all on the same tyre compound so picking whichever may be best so people can choose the car they are most comfortable with.
Also one cool thing I noticed with fuel burn is if you get aero damage not only are you much slower but burn more fuel, this will end up being a fun little enduro as any damage is going to be very costly here. Concentration over the full race very critical as a minor brain burp can be the end of the race or at least make for a painfull trip back to the pits and a long repair to get back on pace.
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Ok I'll put my name down.
Of cause my race will be over somewhere through the second lap.
I'm prepared to have an 'accident' that may take out marty and Guybrush to give the rest of th field a chance......
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That makes me feel much safer Dick as I know you cant hit something your aiming at. ;D
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That makes me feel much safer Dick as I know you cant hit something your aiming at. ;D
lol yeah you're right there. Keep aiming at the road. Keep missing it
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That makes me feel much safer Dick as I know you cant hit something your aiming at. ;D
You're right though. I'll try and take you and Guybrush out, totally miss, crashing into bachulum instead, causing gratulin to go off, letting wally and bird through. Then I'll finally stop crashing and hold up vipergod....
then I'll choke from the pressure of rob...
We've been through this before i think...
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I spent quite a few hours over the Easter break tuning my MP4-12c GT3 for this.
It's sex beast of a car ;D
I'm now reasonably confident I can bust out a few laps without coming off and destroying it...
Though if you're aiming for sub 8:40min laps and muff it, you're basically guaranteed to crash big time and damage your car.
Was getting to 5-6 laps in succession before I my eyes started hurting (forgetting to blink lol), was hallucinating and then coming off... :P
10-11laps is going to be a mission of epic concentration and focus :o
soo awesome ;D
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Need to do this race in a severe thunderstorm at night like in PCars :) That will test your knowledge of the track and car handling :D
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definitely up for this. it's one of my best tracks :)
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I still don't know this track, but sounds like it will be fun... if a little mind-numbing after 80 minutes or so.
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Need to do this race in a severe thunderstorm at night like in PCars :) That will test your knowledge of the track and car handling :D
That would be awesome as well! But let's start easy for us first time sim racers :P
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Long enduros are awesome, especially through an accelerated night and day cycle. Watching the sun come up after racing all night is such a relief. You feel good. It's quite amazing. The corners start to blur into one another... I wish AC would properly simulate night racing.
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I still don't know this track, but sounds like it will be fun... if a little mind-numbing after 80 minutes or so.
Try 80 minutes at Indianapolis for proper numbing... ;)
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80 minutes?
Walk in the park.
I've done a full Daytona 500, took about 3 hours! :o
I got shudders every time I had to turn left for weeks after it....
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I got shudders every time I had to turn left for weeks after it....
classic! I can imagine it now ;D
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I will keep this open so anyone wanting to enter the race just post which car you want here as there is no need for secret car selections for this fun run. Any gt car will be available and I still havent done the fuel tests in all cars but will try to maybe do them this afternoon.
So far Shameless wants the cr7. It will also be good to see numbers and grid limit at the track is 24 cars so it will be open to the first 24 people.
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c7r for me too please.
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Nismo for me please 8)
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I'll go the Nismo as well thanks.
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and make that three Nismo's....
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I'll go the Robin thanks.
Its not a GT car but for you mate I will make an exception. Actually being your car it does make it GT's Robin ;)
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You don't know how much I would love for us to do just one lap of Nords in the Robins.
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458 gt2 please :)
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Ill take the Ferrari GT2 thanks Marty.. We dont want EVERYONE to have the Nissan lol
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just to reconfim I'd like the MP4-12c GT3 ;D ;D ;D
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You don't know how much I would love for us to do just one lap of Nords in the Robins.
A man named Phil has an appropriate sig. ;D
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Just to reconfirm, I'm Guybrush, you can tell it's me by the way I'm writing with a sore knee, and I'm choosing the Robin Reliant.
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Just to reconfirm, I'm Guybrush, you can tell it's me by the way I'm writing with a sore knee, and I'm choosing the Robin Reliant.
Ok then geez you've already got one no need to spam the thread.
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I have the day off today and so am doing some fuel testing, I think it may still be best just to keep fuel at 100% and over 10 laps some cars may make it others wont. If the race was 9 laps then I think all cars will make the distance and 11 laps nobody would and so all would be forced to stop. My thought is an enduro is better run in one stint or longer distances rather then forcing stops and then splitting the race more into 2 sprint races. Running a full tank on one set of tyres will require a different approach but is likely quicker then splitting it into 2 but this could give the option for softer tyres and possibly make up for the time lost in the pits over the race distance.
Consider a race lap of 8:30 this would give a 9 lap race around 1hr 15m 10 laps 1hr 23m and an 11 lap race 1hr 31m so if people want forced pitstops I think better to just run an 11 lap race or if they want the option to do the race in 1 go managing tyres then stick to a 9 lap race but still give those that want the option to split the race and see if they can make that work.
There is also still an issue with track checksums on nords servers and so please all play fair here ;) but it may be best to make ptracker compulsary. This will allow me to still ensure all have Valid track conditions and the race results screen will also have more detailed info for all drivers.
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Last time I raced Nordschleife with a pit stop (and yes even after racing it and practicing it, I'm still in the GB camp of still learning the track... :o) it was a bit tricky to do a pitstop. You had to go past the pits, do a complete GP lap then enter the pits from the end of that little lap. This was in rfactor land... :P
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Last time I raced Nordschleife with a pit stop (and yes even after racing it and practicing it, I'm still in the GB camp of still learning the track... :o) it was a bit tricky to do a pitstop. You had to go past the pits, do a complete GP lap then enter the pits from the end of that little lap. This was in rfactor land... :P
The Enduro layout being used here uses the regular GP pits so you just enter here as you get back onto the main GP track on the main straight.
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Consider a race lap of 8:30 this would give a 9 lap race around 1hr 15m 10 laps 1hr 23m and an 11 lap race 1hr 31m
My PB is 8:32 and I thought I was in Zen mode (catch flies with Chopsticks). :o
Looks like I'll be bringing up the rear!! :P
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Fuel wise the gt3 cars can do 9 laps with just one of them able to do 10 laps at my pace which may be more or less depending on grip levels and how hard people push or how much aero they drag around track. I noticed in some mp races in gt cars there that any aero damage can cost lots of time per lap while also burning some more fuel.
I have yet to test fuel on gt2 cars and only did one full fuel run in one car on mediums and they did wear quite a bit after 9 laps. Concentration for 9 laps or more is a real challenge around here as any error will be punished pretty hard.
I have put a server up its using my public server password and I would like everyone using that to run ptracker same as on the nite. Even if people dont want the app on screen as long as its activated it will send data back to the server. The app itself is very handy able to view server lap data and also share setups ingame while also providing checksum data that is currently broken at the nords track.
I did a 10 lap run in the Z4 which is the only gt3 car that can make it on fuel, made it by 1 liter but brushed a wall on lap 8 which then cost me 16 seconds per lap and about 2-3 more liters per lap. Definatly dont want any damage and the medium tyres will be quite a bit slower by lap 10 then they were at the start.
http://52.64.54.57:50041/sessiondetails?playerInSessionId=6986#
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Wally/Marty, I'm in if there is still a spot open.
Not sure what car at present, I think, for me at least, a car I am comfortable in and not necessarily the fastest would be the prudent choice. 10 laps at Nords is going to be hard enough, might as well try and enjoy it. lol.
rob
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I moved the grid to post 2 of this thread along with race info.
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I did run fuel run of at least 3 laps in each car with at least basic setup adjustments, pushing quite hard and the figure I have come up with fuel use for the nite is 118% this will give the worst fuel guzzler 7.153 laps and the best mileage car will get 8.390 according to my fuel numbers.
In a 10 lap race it will give some strategic options for how to setup the race.
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Sounds good Marty.
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Not at all sure which car i should jump in Marty?
I love nords. Still only know 1% of the track. That's the long straight. From there I'm just guessing.
Still yet to do a green lap on RSR usually have had an off in the 1st few sections.
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I love nords. Still only know 1% of the track. That's the long straight. From there I'm just guessing.
LOL
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Not at all sure which car i should jump in Marty?
I love nords. Still only know 1% of the track. That's the long straight. From there I'm just guessing.
Still yet to do a green lap on RSR usually have had an off in the 1st few sections.
recommend pressing "Ctrl-I" and have race line to assist you get used to it.
Worked wonders for my mates when they pop in to give it a go.
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Not at all sure which car i should jump in Marty?
I love nords. Still only know 1% of the track. That's the long straight. From there I'm just guessing.
Still yet to do a green lap on RSR usually have had an off in the 1st few sections.
recommend pressing "Ctrl-I" and have race line to assist you get used to it.
Worked wonders for my mates when they pop in to give it a go.
Only marty has aids! Could be worth a try though Rolz. Never liked the suggested breaking zones with racing line on.
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Never liked the suggested breaking zones with racing line on.
Agree, the braking zones suck, but the line helps on how the corners work :)
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
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Bahhh, flying blind is the way to go!
I think we agreed to have a run together on Friday night if anyone else is keen.
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Will try to jump online Sunday... Friday night is data night with the misso :P
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I'm in Marty. Will check out the cars and let you know later in the week.
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If I may ask, why do you want to set a grid? It'd be simpler to put a few cars on, first come best served, and away we go.
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
I'm in the camp that looking at the map won't really teach you the track. Great for the 1st few laps but then i find it counter productive to learning breaking points etc. And your better off trying to familiarize with the track looking for markers and 'how the track runs'
admittedly nords is trying to learn 10 tracks at once.
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Friday night is data night with the misso :P
So you guys get dressed up as 0's and 1' and listen to the squeal of a 56k modem? (no you be the 0, I wanna turn you on fluffy muffin!! ;D)
I'm in for Friday testings and the 118% fuel sounds perfect Marty (can split it a few ways for tactics!!) :)
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If I may ask, why do you want to set a grid? It'd be simpler to put a few cars on, first come best served, and away we go.
Main reason Bird is being a longer race I think best to let people drive something they want. There may be a car some hate and get stuck in it so not a great deal of fun for them and likely wont stick around and finish the race. I would drive anything in the field and will choose something different to most others which is why I will wait til later to choose a car.
Its meant to be a fun nite not a torture fest around nords for some that may be stuck in a car they have barely driven and it could be one that just doesnt really work for them. 10 laps at this track will be challenging enough no need for people to battle the cars too. Laptimes between all of them is rather close so it really doesnt matter which they choose and the grid will be a little mixed up.
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That makes sense, thanks!
I'll test these cars a bit at some point, to be able to make a selection.
Edit: eg fark it, I'll take the nissan. I've not driven it much and I'd like to test it.
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Friday night is data night with the misso :P
So you guys get dressed up as 0's and 1' and listen to the squeal of a 56k modem? (no you be the 0, I wanna turn you on fluffy muffin!! ;D)
I'm in for Friday testings and the 118% fuel sounds perfect Marty (can split it a few ways for tactics!!) :)
Maybe its a nite they have some fun with digits. ;)
Stan maybe I missed your official entry but will add you to the list, I will also move the entry list to post 2 of this thread. If I have forgotten someone from the entry list please let me know as I make lots of mistakes and Id be shocked if I haven't screwed that up yet.
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Cheers Marty!! :) (errr I may have missed the formal part of those proceedings...)
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So you guys get dressed up as 0's and 1' and listen to the squeal of a 56k modem? (no you be the 0, I wanna turn you on fluffy muffin!! ;D)
Haha, I knew there was a good joke in there somewhere but I couldn't find it myself as my brain is not functioning anywhere near 100% today ;D
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
I'm in the camp that looking at the map won't really teach you the track. Great for the 1st few laps but then i find it counter productive to learning breaking points etc. And your better off trying to familiarize with the track looking for markers and 'how the track runs'
admittedly nords is trying to learn 10 tracks at once.
I only use this method for Nords. I'm never going to drive it enough to remember every corner. I want to look at the map and see a long straight and just hammer it then see corners coming up and get on the anchors. Not sophisticated but helps reduce wipe outs through not expecting a corner! Also, helps avoid lifting off every time you can't remember if it is a long straight or not.
Even so, I'll only survive a couple of laps before meltdown I expect...
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
I'm in the camp that looking at the map won't really teach you the track. Great for the 1st few laps but then i find it counter productive to learning breaking points etc. And your better off trying to familiarize with the track looking for markers and 'how the track runs'
admittedly nords is trying to learn 10 tracks at once.
I only use this method for Nords. I'm never going to drive it enough to remember every corner. I want to look at the map and see a long straight and just hammer it then see corners coming up and get on the anchors. Not sophisticated but helps reduce wipe outs through not expecting a corner! Also, helps avoid lifting off every time you can't remember if it is a long straight or not.
Even so, I'll only survive a couple of laps before meltdown I expect...
I'll be melting down about 1/2 way around 1st lap. probably lapped by lap 2. Rage quit by lap 5. Rejoin on the last lap.
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
I'm in the camp that looking at the map won't really teach you the track. Great for the 1st few laps but then i find it counter productive to learning breaking points etc. And your better off trying to familiarize with the track looking for markers and 'how the track runs'
admittedly nords is trying to learn 10 tracks at once.
I only use this method for Nords. I'm never going to drive it enough to remember every corner. I want to look at the map and see a long straight and just hammer it then see corners coming up and get on the anchors. Not sophisticated but helps reduce wipe outs through not expecting a corner! Also, helps avoid lifting off every time you can't remember if it is a long straight or not.
Even so, I'll only survive a couple of laps before meltdown I expect...
If I don't know the track, I watch for clues on the tarmac. There are only a few spots that require special attention here, if you keep braking earlier than the tarmac brake-clues, you should seldom run into any real trouble - those couple of tricky places you can memorise.
But if the track map works better for you, by all means, use it :)
This isn't a dangerously tricky track, the corners mostly flowing nicely, the only truly problematic areas are the blind crests with corners. You should slow down a bit on all crests, anyway, lest you hit some spectators! ;)
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I move the track map to be directly below the virtual mirror so I can see what corner is coming up next. Otherwise I get lost.
I'm in the camp that looking at the map won't really teach you the track. Great for the 1st few laps but then i find it counter productive to learning breaking points etc. And your better off trying to familiarize with the track looking for markers and 'how the track runs'
admittedly nords is trying to learn 10 tracks at once.
I only use this method for Nords. I'm never going to drive it enough to remember every corner. I want to look at the map and see a long straight and just hammer it then see corners coming up and get on the anchors. Not sophisticated but helps reduce wipe outs through not expecting a corner! Also, helps avoid lifting off every time you can't remember if it is a long straight or not.
Even so, I'll only survive a couple of laps before meltdown I expect...
If I don't know the track, I watch for clues on the tarmac. There are only a few spots that require special attention here, if you keep braking earlier than the tarmac brake-clues, you should seldom run into any real trouble - those couple of tricky places you can memorise.
But if the track map works better for you, by all means, use it :)
This isn't a dangerously tricky track, the corners mostly flowing nicely, the only truly problematic areas are the blind crests with corners. You should slow down a bit on all crests, anyway, lest you hit some spectators! ;)
I keep hearing 'there are only a few spots' about nords. For me and others i expect there are dozens of spots where i get it so wrong, that indeed spectators are getting covered in bits of my car.
I've started to notice the ambulances parked in certain spots. I'm taking that as a sign.
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Hehe.
You need to slow down. Over-driving is not really the most efficient way of learning in a track :)
That's also why the track map may not be the best way. Drive slow, as slow as you'd do in real life at blind spots. You'll learn the track in a couple of hours enough to be able to drive it properly, I'm sure.
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I think with this track it would be good if you could learn it in sections. So if you could somehow concentrate on the first few km's, and then once that's done move onto the next few km's, etc. I wonder if someone could cut it up and make it a point to point format for each section.
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Actually that's a working thing indeed - it's been like that in the ps3 version if I remember correctly. 3 sections. Still pretty long, but not that insane. :)
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I think with this track it would be good if you could learn it in sections. So if you could somehow concentrate on the first few km's, and then once that's done move onto the next few km's, etc. I wonder if someone could cut it up and make it a point to point format for each section.
Thats how you learn it you get through the first section then to the next section and so on, if you overdrive and keep crashing then you will never learn the second half of the lap. ;)
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I did that at first.
I was sick of the first sector before I leant the last. :-[
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so will there be a practice server up before the weekend? I have a few hours spare and was thinking I'd see if there would be online... driving online to single always yields different results for me.
Weird but true...
Edit - Found Marty's... now to find the password :-P
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Ive added the pass to the 2nd post, surley not many non xgn guys will be visiting this forum, or at least I hope not. ;D
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This looks like fun,
Could I please reserve a Mclaren for the race?
Cheers
paps
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hi guys glynn here I would like to come have some fun in the c7r please
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Heya Glynn (look out.. he fast!! ;D). Good to see you n Paps :D
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Ok Glyn and Paps will be added to the entry list, I will need everyones GUID to set the server for the nite. I will get the current list off Wally but if any new guys are here can you pm me with your Guid thanks.
Also guys try and get Ptracker installed before the nite amd use the latest version, the guys running an older version of ptracker are showing incorrect splits and track checksum. 2.6.8 is needed with v1.1.4 of AC to work properly.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731
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Well I don't think I made it around once without crashing last night.
Seeing as the race will take forever is it worth starting it a bit early, like half an hour? Also thinking that you may need to look at the session end delay after the winner finishes as others are likely to be quite a few minutes behind - especially those with damage!
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Ok Glyn and Paps will be added to the entry list, I will need everyones GUID to set the server for the nite. I will get the current list off Wally but if any new guys are here can you pm me with your Guid thanks.
Also guys try and get Ptracker installed before the nite amd use the latest version, the guys running an older version of ptracker are showing incorrect splits and track checksum. 2.6.8 is needed with v1.1.4 of AC to work properly.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731
Thanks Marty,
I have the current version of pTracker already installed, but I'm not sure where I find this GUID?.. ???
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Ok Glyn and Paps will be added to the entry list, I will need everyones GUID to set the server for the nite. I will get the current list off Wally but if any new guys are here can you pm me with your Guid thanks.
Also guys try and get Ptracker installed before the nite amd use the latest version, the guys running an older version of ptracker are showing incorrect splits and track checksum. 2.6.8 is needed with v1.1.4 of AC to work properly.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731 (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731)
Thanks Marty,
I have the current version of pTracker already installed, but I'm not sure where I find this GUID?.. ???
It's in your race.ini under My Documents/Assetto Corsa blah blah....
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Ok Glyn and Paps will be added to the entry list, I will need everyones GUID to set the server for the nite. I will get the current list off Wally but if any new guys are here can you pm me with your Guid thanks.
I sent you a PM Marty.
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Well I don't think I made it around once without crashing last night.
Seeing as the race will take forever is it worth starting it a bit early, like half an hour? Also thinking that you may need to look at the session end delay after the winner finishes as others are likely to be quite a few minutes behind - especially those with damage!
I will make the session end time very long so it should give all that want to finish a chance to do so. Race itself is only about an hour and half so quite similar to regular race nites, will do a 30 minute qualy which will give people a chance for at least 2 hotlaps. You need 18 minutes just about to get in a single lap. Start time any earlier and it may effect our West Aussie guys.
I dont think this is a GB track as he doesnt know how to back off and I dont think you will ever learn the second half of the lap if you dont make it there. ;D
Its definatly not a track to over commit to corners, also you dont want a setup thats very unstable. That GTR took off like a rocket but I didnt think it was going to make the corners which it didnt.
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Put me down please Marty in the Z4.
Not sure I will be able to make the full 10 laps but maybe if I take a rest break after each lap I could make it to the end :))
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Honestly I've made it around a few times without wrecking my car. I'm well off the pace though.
It's going to interesting to see how spread out the field gets. Might not even know the top 5 until marty has paperwork...
or will p tracker take care of that live?
(Haven't installed it yet)
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Will add you Gratulin, field is getting close to full shame its only 24 grid spots here and 32 at the tourist version which you cant really race.
Practice server still has my regular damage at 100% which I will drop back to regular league 60%. Its definatly not a place you want to have any damage as I had a silly spin on lap one damaging front aero. This cost me about 15 seconds per lap so keeping the car clean nice will be way more important then squeezing every 10th from each corner. If a mistake costs that much time plus possible pit repairs people will need to drive at their comfortable pace. Also avoiding contact on t1 and 2 will be very important as it makes a long race especially if you need to do at least 3 laps before your stop to make the distance on fuel.
The fuel calculation seems to work as intended and I got exactly the same fuel burn as predicted in the mp4. Also with any aero damage fuel burn is much higher so you may want a little more fuel just incase.
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Honestly I've made it around a few times without wrecking my car. I'm well off the pace though.
It's going to interesting to see how spread out the field gets. Might not even know the top 5 until marty has paperwork...
or will p tracker take care of that live?
(Haven't installed it yet)
Ptracker/stracker will do results live and all stats and timing info will be up on the results site. With ptracker it also shows how much time is spent in pitlane.
One thing with this track is there arent many passing locations on the nords layout so you may need to follow someone for 5 minutes before hopefully getting them on the long straight. This is where the GTR and other very fast cars get their advantage and the gt2 cars do get hurt badly but they are much quicker in the twisty sections.
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Well I don't think I made it around once without crashing last night.
Seeing as the race will take forever is it worth starting it a bit early, like half an hour? Also thinking that you may need to look at the session end delay after the winner finishes as others are likely to be quite a few minutes behind - especially those with damage!
I dont think this is a GB track as he doesnt know how to back off and I dont think you will ever learn the second half of the lap if you dont make it there. ;D
Its definatly not a track to over commit to corners, also you dont want a setup thats very unstable. That GTR took off like a rocket but I didnt think it was going to make the corners which it didnt.
Yep, it's just too tempting to give it hell, especially with TC off in the Nismo, hanging the back end out and all. Having said that, I think when the race comes around I'll just tootle around behind everyone else and not crashing will be my goal. It's easy to throw it around in a practice race when it doesn't really mean much.
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GB "just tootling around". That I gotta see ;)
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GB "just tootling around". That I gotta see ;)
That means he'll be 0.5 s off the WR pace, not 0.1s off :D (/minute)
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GB "just tootling around". That I gotta see ;)
That means he'll be 0.5 s off the WR pace, not 0.1s off :D (/minute)
I think it will be WR or wall, he is very quick through the first sector. I have yet to see him drive the second sector and pretty sure he hasnt seen the small carousel yet.
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GB "just tootling around". That I gotta see ;)
That means he'll be 0.5 s off the WR pace, not 0.1s off :D (/minute)
I think it will be WR or wall, he is very quick through the first sector. I have yet to see him drive the second sector
I am yet to drive the second sector. Tell me there isn't a third?!
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I normally skip the second sector and go straight to the third.
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I normally skip the second sector and go straight to the third.
the 1st sector is the carpark..... right?
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I normally skip the second sector and go straight to the third.
the 1st sector is the carpark..... right?
Yup. That's also the third sector.
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I hope Guybrush has realised the track goes beyond the 3 sectors of the gp track. If not turn left just before the Superman jump there you will find the other 20km of track. ;D
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Last nite Rob was having trouble joining the practice server crashing as he was joining. I wonder if by any chance you had some gt sound mods installed. There was an update yesterday and this supposedly broke sound mods. It may be worth trying a steam cache verification.
I wonder if anyone else has had issues as its a pretty large track with 24 cars loaded it could be running out of ram or vram causing the crash.
If its a ram issue and your running more then 4gb of system ram, a 64bit os would help. Ac is still only a 32 bit app limited to 4gb ram total but within a 64bit os it can have the full 4gb while os and background process can use some of the other ram if available leaving the full 4gb still to ac. If your system only has 4gb total then best to turn replay size to minimum and minimize any background applications and this shpuld help and may allow it to run.
On the nite also if not each car is selected thenthis would use less memory and may help some of the lower spec setups.
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I'd like to enter a McLaren in the GT3 class please Marty.
If it fills up bump me, this is only in case my new PC shows up in time. ;)
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Looks like I'm out for next Tuesday Guys. My clunky old computer just does not like Nords Endurance.
Marty, thanks for the suggestion but I deleted all the mods and sounds after I installed the DLC, and I am running medium to low graphics settings.
Its strange as (off-line) I can run multiple laps in at least 3 different cars (that's all I tried before my patience ran out) at the Tourist and normal Nords no prob, but AC crashes at exactly the same place (within metres) whenever I try to run the Endurance version. I thought there might be something wrong with the Endurance track files so I immediately did Steam Integrity check, but everything was OK.
Have fun guys, should be a great night.
rob
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Yeah sign me up marty, im leaning towards the z4 I have never driven it anger and its one of my fav gt cars lol
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Bacchulum and Matthew added to the list. Rob I will keep you in until the grid is full maybe you may find put the issue. Have you tried reducing your replay file size for the enduro layout yet, this should free up some memory and may be enough to avoid your game crashing.
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Count me in! This should be fun im liking the 458 gt2 but havnt decided yet
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Ok added you in Jeremey, car selections dont need to be locked in til 4pm race day, after that point people either get what they have already asked for or random car if I haven't been given a selection as that's about when I will start the server up.
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Are we having a bit of a practice crash tonight?
Marty was good at talking me around Nords last night. sure, he wasn't talking about the track.. but still..
So I think on race night we all stick together, while Marty talks us around for 9 and 1/2 laps then we race to line. Sound good??
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Ive just reset the servers had a little run with bird, I will jump on for a few practice crashes.
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Will be on in half an hour. Just gonna finish watching the Lego movie and eating some pumpkin - feta pizza. I'll let you know how that goes.
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Will be on in half an hour. Just gonna finish watching the Lego movie and eating some pumpkin - feta pizza. I'll let you know how that goes.
sure beats eating a lego pizza and watching the pumpkin movie.
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Did a few laps last night with a few lads. and 7 laps of a 10 lap race.
It isn't as hard to learn as you think. I started making steady progress once I stopped looking at the map altogether, it only confuses you into thinking corners are coming up, which are really 'miles' away.
Admittedly I'm well off the pace doing mid 10s (McLaren GT3) and wrecking my car every 3 laps, resulting in 40+ second pit stops. But the big guys where wrecking as well. I'm not sure how many pit stops Marty and Stan took, but it was at least 2??? I took at least 3 and did 2 laps with a bent left strut, no wings and smashed windscreen. If you can stay out there with a wrecked car longer than your competitors you may have a good chance... or go mad.
Threepwood took the latter option and made excuses about having to watch some sewing program on TV, or something.
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But the big guys where wrecking as well.
How dare you criticise Mary-Ann's battle with obesity. He actually looks in pretty good shape for a 16 year old girl.
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Woohoo, at least I've been able to do a few laps off-line without AC locking up. Not sure if it is random or fixed. I deleted the "fast_lane.ai" file from the Endurance Track folder. I'll try and do a few on-line laps before Tuesday if I get a chance.
Super pleased.
rob
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Woohoo, at least I've been able to do a few laps off-line without AC locking up. Not sure if it is random or fixed. I deleted the "fast_lane.ai" file from the Endurance Track folder. I'll try and do a few on-line laps before Tuesday if I get a chance.
Super pleased.
rob
Perhaps turning the replay buffer down to zero megabytes could also help?
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Good news Rob, hope it gets sorted for you and if you can load onto my server you should be fine on the nite as it will likely have less car types to load as it doesnt look like they will all be used which should ise a little less system and gpu memory.
The practice run was interesting last nite and Guybrush completed his first lap, still not valid but its a start. That sewing program must be fun to give up crashing at nords to watch it instead.
I was impressed with Dicks effort he called me a Nazi for making him do more then 3 laps at Mugello and he did 7 at Nords Endurance. A real fun track once you get the hang of it, my concentration levels were struggling and the plan was to do 10 laps without an error but 3 silly mistakes caused damage which I decided to just fix rather then drive with a damaged car in a practice run. On the nite you may want to stay out but need to also be aware that aero damage will need a fair but more fuel per lap.
Cool thing about Ptracker with Stracker servers is it gives number of pitstops and time spent in pits. Here is that practice race.
http://52.64.54.57:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1159#
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But the big guys where wrecking as well.
How dare you criticise Mary-Ann's battle with obesity. He actually looks in pretty good shape for a 16 year old girl.
Even though you got the snip on your last trip you are still a boy, you can put the word lady infront of boy but you cant take the boy out of ladyboy :D.
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You can take the boy out of Marty, but you can't take Marty out of the boy.
It wasn't a sewing program I had to watch, it was Antiques Roadshow. We all have our vices.
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Cool thing about Ptracker with Stracker servers is it gives number of pitstops and time spent in pits. Here is that practice race.
http://52.64.54.57:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1159#
Wait.. I did a 9:48.070 Valid lap. Stoked! That was with a damaged car. Spent a total of 5 minutes in the pits though.
Those 40+ second pit stops give you plenty of time to get out of the seat and stretch you legs.
Might jump on and try a few other cars. Very happy with the Mclaren though.
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Just wiped out Guybrush even before we got into the Nords bit :)) I reckon that makes my practise complete????
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Just wiped out Guybrush even before we got into the Nords bit :)) I reckon that makes my practise complete????
Good work Gratulin!
I also crashed him good. :)
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Did maybe 5 laps last night but one of my kids kept waking up screaming so had to stop. Think I'll take the 458 GT2 Marty.
I know I've been playing AC a lot more than driving my real car when today I tried to shift up with a paddle that doesn't exist...
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Just wiped out Guybrush even before we got into the Nords bit :)) I reckon that makes my practise complete????
Your practice isnt complete if GB ever manages to get around the track and learn it. Get back in there and finish the job. ;D
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Apologies, but I'd like to change my hurried car selection.
I've tested them tonight, and I'd like to settle on the Mercedes.
It's a toss up between that and the C7, very close. However, the Mercedes gave me 8s extra per lap, did an 8:29. The Corvette was very docile, though. Amazing that the very car that has no ABS or TC out of the whole field is the most driveable. But I could not whip it to go faster than an 8:37 or so, and I don't want to mess with setups.
My findings;
- The Nissan has heaps of speed, but can be a bit tricky in corners, and the default handling does not suit me, so I'd have to mess with the setup...
- The p4/5 felt great, until I touched a curb. Then it spun.
- The McLaren was a bit of a handful, and lack of top speed was an issue. I think it takes a bit of setup to optimise.
- The C7, as above, looks the safest option with my driving style. I did not spin it, not once in 4 or 5 laps. Sounds great.
- The Merc is a tad more handful, yet it's more exciting and got a bit more grunt by the looks. Still feels fairly safe for me. Also sounds great :)
I haven't tried the beemers; lack of time.
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Ok I will change your selection Bird, for me though laptime wise there isnt any real standout car but the gt2 cars I found quite a bit easier to get time out of even though they are slower in a straight line. I only did a few laps in the c7r and basic setup yet need tp work much harder for the same time from the gt3 cars.
The gt2 cars just have quite a bit more aero so need to be driven fairly differently yet in the end times are pretty close.
I didnt want to be another gtr guy as this seems the easiest choice at this place, its still quite a handful in the corners but the sls is failry close speed wise to this.
Also noticed Bird that your running the old Ptracker app and this is the same with any people that are showing incorrect splits. Best to update to the current version as the old ptracker version doesnt work properly since v1.1 in AC.
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and Marty, do you still need to do an offline timed lap to get splits to show up?
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Yes you do need to do an offline valid lap in order for splits to show up at each track. Only 2.6.8 version of ptracker will work correctly with multi layout tracks though with the older build likely using splits from another nords version.
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If all people still undecided on the car could give me a selection by tomorrow nite. I will be able to put up a set grid server to make sure all are entered correctly. Id rather find any errors im the entry list before race nite rather then need to restart the server closer to the race if somebody cant get in.
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Is there a button to turn factor TC on? When I go to turn it on it just goes through numbers 1 to 12, but not sure which is factory. I figure it's probably necessary to save the tyres as the Nismo seems to chew through the mediums.
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Is there a button to turn factor TC on? When I go to turn it on it just goes through numbers 1 to 12, but not sure which is factory. I figure it's probably necessary to save the tyres as the Nismo seems to chew through the mediums.
Don't know. I've wondered the same thing.
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Is there a button to turn factor TC on? When I go to turn it on it just goes through numbers 1 to 12, but not sure which is factory. I figure it's probably necessary to save the tyres as the Nismo seems to chew through the mediums.
Factory is just the default and one of the options just not sure which, if you want to run with tc best to play with it a bit and see what level works best for you. I findn it funny how rsr allows tc at only one level within pro mode as really any level selectable in car is factory. Its just another setup option like everything else you are able to change in the car.
I only played around with it a little but in the end prefered it off in all cars. The gtr at a very low level can help out of somen of those slower corners but does tend to hurt some faster exits. Also give the hard tyres a go as I am pretty sure I can lap faster from half way into the hotlap on hards over mediums. They then dont go off anywhere near as quick as the mediums. Mediums on lap 10 still are driveable but quite a bit slower then hards, you wont overheat rears as easily either so more stable and less chance of blistering.
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You can only tell the def TC by testing, sadly. Since there's a distinct difference, usually, you can tell fairly easily, usually.
I do prefer to have some, on most of the cars. I tend to have a bit of a lead-foot. :)
Btw for me the Merc and the C7 both used about 2% up in around 4 laps. So it's not too bad. (Mediums)
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Bad news gents, Guy is learning the track, fast. He managed to complete a so-so lap...
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Marty, it looks like I've not fixed my problem after all. Back to getting a runtime error. I'll try and get on the server later today. If I do get it sorted I'll take the McLaren thanks, but I've missed a heap of practice time :(
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Bad news gents, Guy is learning the track, fast. He managed to complete a so-so lap...
I just checked the server stats he has 2 valid laps from 26, I still wish him luck for the 10 lapper. :D
Rob I will load up the full entry list tomorrow afternoon so give it another shot then. If you run some laps on the nords circuit and you already are familiar with the go layout the only change is t1/2 the faster chicane and turn off to Nords from the gp layout.
Have you tried setting replay buffer to the min level yet as that would most likely help any memory issues which are the most likely cause of it crashing on lower spec machines.
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Marty, it looks like I've not fixed my problem after all. Back to getting a runtime error. I'll try and get on the server later today. If I do get it sorted I'll take the McLaren thanks, but I've missed a heap of practice time :(
Hope to see you Tuesday Rob. Or if you can lend your computer to Guybrush that would be great.
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Have you tried setting replay buffer to the min level yet as that would most likely help any memory issues which are the most likely cause of it crashing on lower spec machines.
Thanks for the suggestion Marty. I have set it to the minimum but haven't tried it yet.
Hope to see you Tuesday Rob. Or if you can lend your computer to Guybrush that would be great.
Yeah, I hope I'll be there Dick. I'm just about ready to bin the computer.
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Count me out, PC won't be ready in time. :(
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Bad luck Bacchulum but Im pretty sure we can do another run here again, it really is quite fun once you get the hang of the track. I think I got the most out of my SLS on hards with a couple 8:17's in a row http://52.64.54.57:50041/admin/sessiondetails?playerInSessionId=7360# but hope thats not going to be near the race pace.
I did see Robin jump on the server who I assume was Rob so that seems promising, he raced a few laps and managed to get a PLP penalty. I dont think there is any need to enforce PLP penalties during this race as 170 turns x 10 laps is 1700 chances to go off. Also running off track just about anywhere at Nords is going to cost time and damage.
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Here is the current Grid with the few guys yet to give me a car selection I have either given what they last used on the practice server or just a guess as I have for Gorgak.
1 Marty SLS GT3
2 Perch Nismo GTR GT3
3 Dick Forrest MP4 12C GT3
4 UnfkNbelievable C7R GTE
5 Guybrush Threepwood Nismo GTR GT3
6 Freezer Nismo GTR GT3
7 RJM 458 GT2
8 Grubbet 458 GT2
9 Rolz Mclaren MP4 GT3
10 Rob MP4 GT3
11 Shameless C7R
12 Gorgak M3 GT2
13 StanDaam Nismo GT3
14 Bird SLS GT3
15 Joe 458 GT2
16 Krahl 458 GT2
17 Paps MP4 GT3
18 Glynn C7R GTE
19 Gratulin Z4 GT3
20 Matthew Z4 GT3
21 Jeremy 458 GT2
22 Peter Reid P4/5
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24
The ones in red are those that I haven't noticed a confirmed car choice, I have also changed the selection deadline to 7pm tomorrow just in case I don't get home til late on race nite. I will be able to get the server up earlier and admin pass will be the regular pass if for some reason I cant make the race someone else could get direct control of the server if needing to skip sessions etc. I think I will be home in time just been stuck at work a fair bit the last few days and good to have a backup plan in case things turn bad for me so the race can still go on.
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I have put up a practice server with the current entry list so anyone entered can try enter that server to make sure they have the car they want and can get in. Its called XGN Nords Enduro Practice server, the other Marty's server is also still up where people can try any car with my password.
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Yeah I'll drive a McLaren thanks marty!!
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Yep, that was me Marty. I am getting a few "micro" stutters so it will best if I start from the rear.
I got "a" PLP penalty? Obviously I wasn't trying hard enough.
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Cheers Marty!! Yes the Nismo for me please!! :D
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Got some good practice in on the weekend... worked out tires and fuel strategies ok.
Noticed some corners I could only go flat out once I'd lessened the fuel load
(3-4 laps in if starting with full tank)
Saw Gratulin for a little bit...
Was almost 7 laps in on a full race test but had a mate pop in so couldn't really tell them to wait another 28min
Played offline testing with AI driving... they are bloody hard to race! (98% skill)
Starting at the back (10 racers) over a 2 lap sprint I got to 5th... it was hard fought.
With so many cars you are off the drive line most of the time, overtaking spots are very tough indeed.
Plus I still am not a fan of how the AI can clip me and I'm gone and they are bolted to the road...
(Fiancé heard a lot of "That's bulls**t" calls coming from my study over the weekend) :P
I seem to be hitting the Carousel really slowly as the AI just wipe me out every time I'm in front of them...
It's like I've hit the breaks and they just ram my arse. What speed do you people drive through that? I'm going through ~80-90 in 2nd
Seeing that I'm sure I could improve my time there.
MP4 is slower on the straights, but breaking is awesome and now I'm used to the handling, or I'm happy with my setup.
I'm going to be in the middle of the pack as I'm averaging about 8:38 (PB is 8:32), but I'm confident all going well I'll beat that closer to the end of the race Tuesday if car is ok and concentration is ok. :P
Here is my setup for any other MP4 drivers to compare
Rolz ;D
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Are you going to enforce the PLP in this race? If so I could well be doing a drive though every lap ;D
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http://52.64.54.57:50041/admin/sessiondetails?playerInSessionId=7360#
Can anyone see your details? I'm getting prompted for user name and password... I'm guessing it's because it's the admin section you've shared.
Edit - ok bumbled around the site and found it :)
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Just a quick question,
..What time do proceedings kick off on the night guys?
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Just a quick question,
..What time do proceedings kick off on the night guys?
Qualy will start at 8.30 like regular tuesday nites with a 30 minute session then race straight after which will be around 1 1/2 hrs long. The race over time seems to be limited at 200 seconds.
Rolz sorry about that link didnt notice I was in admin section when I copied the link. Here is a non admin link to all The Nords enduro laps on my servers with the selectable gt cars. http://52.64.54.57:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-endurance&cars=bmw_m3_gt2,bmw_z4_gt3,ferrari_458_gt2,ks_corvette_c7r,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,p4-5_2011&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
I havent tried the AI there much but found them a little slow when I did. Passing at Nords really not likely in too many spots. I did experiment some rather sketchy spots against Jeremy who was in the 458gt2 where I had a straight line advantage in the SLS. Only time I could pass was when I got over 270kmh and many of these places its not lots of room to go side by side.
The long straight and GP circuit are your best chance unless the guy ahead makes a mistake its not going to be easy to pass.
Race server will also have dynamic grip and the xgn nords practice server should be setup the same as it will be on race nite.
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I am going to have pull out unfortunately. I have a bit to much work on and my left wrist is in a brace due to sprain.
So that opens up another Nissan if anyone wants it...!
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Are you going to enforce the PLP in this race? If so I could well be doing a drive though every lap ;D
No PLP will not be enforced during this race, I think the odds of going off track and not hitting a wall is fairly unlikely in 99% of the track. If your running off track you will likely need to drive a damaged car or go to pits for a repair anyway. ;)
I am going to have pull out unfortunately. I have a bit to much work on and my left wrist is in a brace due to sprain.
So that opens up another Nissan if anyone wants it...!
Bad luck Freezer, I will take you out of the grid. So this means there are still 3 spots open for the race.
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http://52.64.54.57:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-endurance&cars=bmw_m3_gt2,bmw_z4_gt3,ferrari_458_gt2,ks_corvette_c7r,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,p4-5_2011&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
Far out!! 8:18 in the MP4! Can u plz share ur setup Marty :o
plz plz plz :P
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http://52.64.54.57:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-endurance&cars=bmw_m3_gt2,bmw_z4_gt3,ferrari_458_gt2,ks_corvette_c7r,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,p4-5_2011&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
Far out!! 8:18 in the MP4! Can u plz share ur setup Marty :o
plz plz plz :P
He cut. And haxxed.
But i agree. Hand over the set up marty! :)
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http://52.64.54.57:50041/lapstat?track=ks_nordschleife-endurance&cars=bmw_m3_gt2,bmw_z4_gt3,ferrari_458_gt2,ks_corvette_c7r,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,p4-5_2011&valid=1,2&date_from=&date_to=
Far out!! 8:18 in the MP4! Can u plz share ur setup Marty :o
plz plz plz :P
Here is my Mclaren setup and also the SLS setup, All cars can do that sort of time for me just some do it fairly differently more through the twisty bits and others mostly straight line speed. Mclaren is kind of in the middle with a reasonable top speed on the long final straight but a little slower up the hill compare to SLS and Nismo. Mclaren is quite a bit quicker between the carousels which is also where the GT2 GTE cars get most of their laptime. Funny how nobody chose the m3 yet it was the easiest to get a quick laptime for me. Pretty sure I could get a bit more out of it now after having done a few laps.
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Is it worth starting qualy a bit earlier? Finishing up after 10:30pm is past my bed time. I've still only done 2 valid laps by the way!
I'm tipping I'll have an early departure anyway as the chances of crashing are about 2/25 = 92%
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If everyone is in the server earlier we can start qualy sooner, at 8 or 8:15 so will see on the nite. Some do need their beauty sleep quite badly Im sure but no matter how early you go to bed GB its not going to help in your case I think.
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I seem to have issues on the server, first it was drop outs which now seems ok but now it doesn't seem to register my times. The lap was valid and it shows up in my game as my pb but not on the server or its records?
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I did reset servers a little earlier tonight, I didnt think anyone was on but maybe you were it may have gone down a couple times. I noticed your not running ptracker so you should run this to enable proper server timing. I would like all to use this on the race nite but even if you dont have the app on screen just needs to be enabled it will communicate with the server. This gives much more detailed info on each user and during the race it will show split times and pit time.
There could be an issue with multiple servers running the same combo's sharing an stracker database. I will take down the Marty's nords server and just have the XGN Nords practice one up.
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Yeah ill try the ptracker
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I'm switching to the GT2 BM thanks Marty.
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I'm switching to the GT2 BM thanks Marty.
Ok will do
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Whats everyone's thoughts on dynamic track and start grip, I think we were having enough trouble as it is at 100% tonight but there may need to be some more aero and a little more backing off in spots.
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I think if we are all in the Robins lower track grip shouldn't be a problem.
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mucking around with new setups at the 11th hour is my issue :P
dropped my aero and change my gearing like ur setup Marty has made me faster, but now I have relearn.
I think I'll just take it easy and wait for u and GB to collect each other ;)
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mucking around with new setups at the 11th hour is my issue :P
dropped my aero and change my gearing like ur setup Marty has made me faster, but now I have relearn.
I think I'll just take it easy and wait for u and GB to collect each other ;)
One thing to take note of in many cars you may lose speed shifting to 6th going up the hill towards Klostertal the fast section before the karussel. Some cars you may gain slightly going up to 6th here but most your better off holding 5th even if it hits the limiter for a bit.
I did run my first proper SP hotlap in the SLS here on medium tyres first lap out and buy even with low aero its quite a pleasure to drive, trying to run 80 litres or so on hard tyres its much trickier and I think I will just also need to pace myself a little early to keep the car undamaged for the full race. That is my goal and its just so easy to have a slight lapse of concentration that ends in tears. Will be interesting to see the race pace and who can hang on to it for the full stint as avoiding damage can save 10 to 20 seconds per lap which giving up a few seconds each lap may be the best strategy. Its just hard to do when people are pushing you along either behind or ahead. ;D
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RJM sent me a PM asking about the server being up (I cant reply to your as your inbox is full) it is atm named XGN Nords Enduro practice server, around 5 or 6pm it will be Called XGN Nords Enduro Race nite. The server is a prebooked server so check you lobby filters to make sure you can find it, also on the nite jump on teamspeak if your having trouble and someone will help you out.
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Didn't have time to practice much last night. Managed to practice my reverse grid though.
destroyed Guybrush's car so it was successful.
Those Nissans blow up so easy
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Didn't have time to practice much last night. Managed to practice my reverse grid though.
destroyed Guybrush's car so it was successful.
Those Nissans blow up so easy
Interesting strategy but it will only work if you qualify ahead of him, that may be a little trickier.
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You don't know how long he is prepared to drive in reverse for Marty.
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Gent things look crap here on the central coast. No electricity since night, multiple trees down, and no-one in sight fixing anything. It is unlikely that I'll be able to make it. The wind is still howling at 100km/hr...
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Gent things look crap here on the central coast. No electricity since night, multiple trees down, and no-one in sight fixing anything. It is unlikely that I'll be able to make it. The wind is still howling at 100km/hr...
Sounds like you're typical day over there Bird. you'll be fine
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Bummer bird you know what they say about those parts of Australia, beautiful one day homeless the next or something along those lines I think.
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Hope you manage to get the power back on by tonight Bird. It was bad enough on the northern beaches Sydney (was like driving through a war zone this morning with fallen trees everywhere, hanging over power lines :() and you guys got it worse than we did.
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yeow! i have been reading local CA, USA papers here, but of course there is no 'world news' outside "The World U.S.A.)
hope you only loose electricity for a while... and of course the all important, it comes back on in time to play... off to read 'real news' online.
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As I said; unlikely. According to radio news they only able to address life threatening situations as of yet. A bit of drive around revealed a lot of damage. A lot of trees and fences are down. Nothing major in our vicinity apart from a half-fallen tree hanging on a powerline in the next street. But the electricity is out for kilometers every way. And the wind is still strong. NSW is not prepared for this I guess.
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As I said; unlikely. According to radio news they only able to address life threatening situations as of yet. A bit of drive around revealed a lot of damage. A lot of trees and fences are down. Nothing major in our vicinity apart from a half-fallen tree hanging on a powerline in the next street. But the electricity is out for kilometers every way. And the wind is still strong. NSW is not prepared for this I guess.
Looks like total deviation. Approximately $50 damage has been the estimate....
Seriously. Looks like you're going to cop more. 3 dead. Not very good over there at all.
You all stay safe and try and keep dry!
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Cheers Dick!! :)
We do do some funny things at times... We lop off all the branches anywhere near the power-lines and make these crazy ass looking lop-sided trees. Then a storm comes along and the tree structures have been compromised and so more trees get blown down... There's got to be a better way... :o
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Cheers Dick!! :)
We do do some funny things at times... We lop off all the branches anywhere near the power-lines and make these crazy ass looking lop-sided trees. Then a storm comes along and the tree structures have been compromised and so more trees get blown down... There's got to be a better way... :o
Looking at photos in the news. It would seem you all like to park under trees. Trees that have all blown over onto cars.
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Well, I'll be damned, they've restored the juice. I bet the tree is still across the powerlines in the next street (I'll check if the rain lets up a little) but there's power at the moment!
There's light at the end of the tunnel after all! (electric light, otherwise it's as dark as) :)
Edit: oh, btw, there's one foolproof solution to secure cables against falling trees: put the lines underground.
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But if they put them underground they'll lose their wires n poles asset... best wait till they sell them ::)
Good to hear about the power Bird... that means the devil is alive... "You need power to do 10 laps of hell? I'll just invoke my demonic powers and viola!!!" ;D
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Oh, btw, there's one foolproof solution to secure cables against falling trees: put the lines underground.
Got that where I am but also estate was pre nbn or any fiber optic cable so no plans to put any other cables down there.
Will put server up at 5pm so if anyone wants any last minute car changes do so before then please. I think grip level will just start at 98% then build up from there no meed to get brutal on it for the first enduro run.
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Hope you manage to get the power back on by tonight Bird. It was bad enough on the northern beaches Sydney (was like driving through a war zone this morning with fallen trees everywhere, hanging over power lines :() and you guys got it worse than we did.
Power was out in manly vale and my office in manly so unfortunately couldn't work ;D
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Server is up "XGN Nords Enduro Race Nite"
Qually planned for 8:30 with a 30 minute session then the 10 laps of hell. If everyone is in earlier and are keen to qualify a little earlier then we will but only if all are in the server at the time.
Ive shut down all other servers for tonight so we should not have any issues if too many were to jump on the other servers.
Grip level is at 98% slowly building and keeping 50% of whats gained each session. Damage is 60% as per regular league nites and fuel use is 118% which should give a full tank range for all cars of between 7 and 8 laps. If you have aero damage this will reduce range quite a bit so beware of this if your running minimum fuel for your stint. Take it easy into t1 and 2 as these are very tricky corners and can easily cause some damage which you will need to run the full lap before you can fix it.
I think escape to pits for repairs on lap 1 should be permitted as you will lose the lap anyway and there is plenty of time to get this back should you not wreck it again multiple times.
I would like all to use Ptracker tonight, even if you dont want the app on screen just install it and enable in game options this way we will get more detailed info about all drivers in the stracker results. Download Ptracker here http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ptracker.3509/download?version=8731
Regular teamspeak channel will be used ts.xgn.com.au poke an admin if you need access, I am not a TS admin though so dont poke me. ;)
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I'm in darkness now... looks like I'm out tonight bugger it, no power all around us... at least I got to learn the green hell a bit better... have fun!!!... now what can I do by candle light :(
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I'm in darkness now... looks like I'm out tonight bugger it, no power all around us... at least I got to learn the green hell a bit better... have fun!!!... now what can I do by candle light :(
Get yourself fit or the misses during the 10 laps of hell.
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I'm in darkness now... looks like I'm out tonight bugger it, no power all around us... at least I got to learn the green hell a bit better... have fun!!!... now what can I do by candle light :(
There is plenty you can do by candle-light, or indeed no light at all.
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I'm in darkness now... looks like I'm out tonight bugger it, no power all around us... at least I got to learn the green hell a bit better... have fun!!!... now what can I do by candle light :(
I just read dee why brookie and Mona vale are out. Hasn't hit me yet fortunately.
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any spots in this one? late i know lol
ill take any car thats free.
Preferably the Nismo GTR
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Ha ha!!
Good luck Joe!, you can have my spot moo :)
Thanks for the ideas Marty and I'm still not sure what GB is suggesting.... should I tell the wifey about your radical theories :)
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any spots in this one? late i know lol
ill take any car thats free.
Preferably the Nismo GTR
Pretty late but cool to get another hopeful finisher, I will add you in within the next 15 minutes and need to do a server restart then. Should be in before 7:30 for sure.
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That's a big bugger Stan, I feel your pain. Well, at least I felt it when we had no juice in the day here...phew
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Mooface can you give me your GUID or are you also racing as whitemoo as thats the only similar name I have in the XGN list.
Your PM box is also full here so you may want to delete some messages from in there, I need the GUID before 7:30 to get you in
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aye, yea i am racing as whitemoo.
will clear the inbox.
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Marty if there is room for one more slot me in if you're yet to restart the server. cheers.
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My ac went weird and wiped my account so will I have to give you a new guid? if so here it is 76561198049373312
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-----------!There is a serious issue!--------------------
My pit sign guy wearing AMG branded uniform....
I'm driving a McLaren!!
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Marty if there is room for one more slot me in if you're yet to restart the server. cheers.
OK there are a couple spots left still I can add you what car do you want?
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My ac went weird and wiped my account so will I have to give you a new guid? if so here it is 76561198049373312
Still the same one I think this is linked to steam not AC, you should be able to get into the server still but I will restart it at 7:30 once Bafs gives me a car choice.
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not many of the SLS in so lets try that. :)
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OK SLS it is for you too.
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oh and thank you :-*
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Thanks guys was "fun" in its own way, unfortunately my computer froze up on lap 3 and I needed a full reset. Came back and was a long way down so not much of a race for me.
Qualy results
http://52.64.20.230:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1256#
Race Results
http://52.64.20.230:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=1257#
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I know it was only fun race tonight - poor Marty had his PC crash, but I querying the incident between me and RJM... did anyone else want to check the replays right at the end... Who was at fault there? :o
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Great race!
Was bringing up the rear as always with BAFS and GRUBERT, i unfortunately hit GRUBERT at the start of the 2nd last lap, which im mega sorry for, entered too fast and ran out of brakes.
Was good chasing BAFS towards the end, i had momentum but came in too hot into a corner then into the grass. Got back on the road and realized i had no more rear grip and couldnt keep pushing.
Very glad i managed to get to the final lap before the server shut down, huge achievement for me.
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I know it was only fun race tonight - poor Marty had his PC crash, but I querying the incident between me and RJM... did anyone else want to check the replays right at the end... Who was at fault there? :o
I will take a look at it as I think I saved the end of race dont have the start due to my pc crash, but anyway was still a fun nite.
Guy had the pace on me I think and he pulled quite a gap early meds vs my hards and unless he hit a wall I wasn't likely to catch him. I was surprised I didn't hit a wall all race but went a little conservative on race aero to try and avoid crashing. GB did well to pull a very quick pace all race and keep it on the black stuff.
After rebooting the computer I rejoined mostly to see how the scoring would work in a pre booked server, I didnt lose all the laps but had no real idea what lap I was on or who I was racing. I passed a few cars but most I was still more then a lap down on.
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Good roll up and sounds like a fun to gone down to hell, and nice work Dick!
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Good race guys. Just glad to have finished in one piece. Got to say that I'm glad we won't be doing that again for a while! It's quite a unique track but I don't find it as enjoyable as a lot of other tracks like Spa and Murillo, etc. It does have a few fun corners though. Seems more of a track day type thing for going for a cruise.
Thanks Mary-Ann for organising it all. Your level of administrative performance was thoroughly acceptable.
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Well done guys. It sounds like it really was an endurance test. Did people actually get to race together for a while, or did it get lonely?
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Seemed a few stayed together but GB would have had a lonely one. He pulled an early lead with some very quick times and I went the opposite strategy and took it a bit too easy trying to avoid damage. I should have started on mediums and taken more risk early nut credit to gb for going for it and sticking it to the track all race.
Then as I had a pc crash and rejoined after a reboot I went through a few cars that were fairly close. On the results there were 3 guys that finished within 2 seconds RJM, Perch and Peter Reid. Thats not bad after 1700 corners and nearly an hour and half.
You really would want a larger grid here or even a revers grid would have been interesting. Passing people on the Nords section is pretty tricky and I had a brain berp lockup when passing Dick after I rejoined the server. Luckily he expected it :D and so avoided a collision.
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I had some good runs with various people throughout the race... I definitely wouldn't call it lonely...
Hands and wrists are pretty sore!!
I would be keen to do it again at some stage! Now I've had a sleep on it I'm not as pissed off as I was last night about the finish.
Always the way ;D
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My challenge was just to get as much of the race done. I was never going to be competitive here, I've done several hours at nords now, still only done 2 green laps on RSR a 9.24 or something. Well off the pace.
I was working hard just to keep it off the walls, worked off a 9 stop strategy, started the race with 3 laps of fuel and mediums. Hoping to pick up some pieces as battles raged ahead in turn 1.... everyone made it. Damn...
it got worse when i realized I've done 2 laps without wrecking my car, my 9 stop strategy was falling apart.
so had to stop.
stuff it, I'll fill her up and put on hards, i can do this..
Crashed it up bad on the gp circuit on my out lap...
back to my 9 stop strategy..
This was about when poor Mary-anne had tech failure. I actually felt bad for him. Put in all this hard work. And this happens.
It got worse as i was leaving the pits. Mary Had just logged back in, taking turn one i noticed his big bloody sls all over me. Thought, here we go, he's taking it out on me, i had to swerve to avoid him.
I think this was the catalyst that ruined my lap times from there on. And caused me to be lapped by Guybrush and bird.
Finished in front of marty. 10/10
that's two races in a row.....
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Thanks Mary-Ann for organising it all. Your level of administrative performance was thoroughly acceptable.
Marty, loved the typo, cough cough, for your entry list name for Guybrush.
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Thanks Mary-Ann for organising it all. Your level of administrative performance was thoroughly acceptable.
Marty, loved the typo, cough cough, for your entry list name for Guybrush.
Honest mistake sir, must have been like that on Wally's list or maybe my computer auto corrected it. Surely wasnt done on purpose, yet there were no objections by the man himself so we can call it an official name change now.
I tried to do something with mr forrests name but no matter how hard I tried I couldnt come up with a worse name for him. Darn that now makes the GB incident look less of an error and more a planned deliberate act. ;)
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Congrats everyone on finishing, amazing that nearly all of us actually managed it!
I was surprised how many times I was close to people, racing for positions - altho the over 1min repair time in the pits might have helped.
That was just stupid. I had a scratch on each side, it barely cost me time, and I did not check the repair time just quickly ticked it on, thinking "it'll be but a minute". Well it was a minute. :) Then I've put it into the wall on the 1st lap fair and square, now nursing some damage that actually cost me top speed. Bugger that :)
Many of us had pretty darn good pace, too, amazing! I've found during the race that I was taking a few sections a bit wrong, so I reckon a few (hundred) more hours of praccy and I could catch up to Guy :D But I'm not too keen. This track is too long, and those curbs are pure evil.
There are a few fun sections tho.
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I think this is the first time I've had a disco after 2 laps and been thankful for what I got!! :D
We only had about an hour of power last night, so I was happy to have 1/2 hour of qually and a couple of laps of racing to enjoy in the middle of a candle light night. Was enjoying trailing behind Rolz and RJM watching them duke it out :D
Well done to the mighty GB and hard luck to Marty after doing an excellent job of organising '10 laps through HELL' ;D
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I had some good runs with various people throughout the race... I definitely wouldn't call it lonely...
Hands and wrists are pretty sore!!
I would be keen to do it again at some stage! Now I've had a sleep on it I'm not as pissed off as I was last night about the finish.
Always the way ;D
I am still pissed! Kudos are not serious about league racing if the fundamental rule of racing is not implemented ie let everyone finish their final lap after the chequered flag in QUAL and Race. This should be reported as a bug. Probably has been a million times already though.
Anyway, thanks Marty for arranging the session last night. It was a very big and excellent call to chose Nords for a 10 lap race. I, for one, didn't think it would work. Thanks to you I have now "learnt" Nords. Fantastic! I was also surprised at how quickly each lap went by (figuratively speaking, still pretty slow!). I had FFB set down at 48% as recommended by the app and that made the long laps easier on the wrists.
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Im pretty sure everyone learnt the track a bit better after that, I was kind of hoping GB wasnt quite going to learn it so well but he prbably just downloaded the track knowledge from the Alien database.
Here are the qualy times from last years 24hr qualy shootout. Pole time was 8:10 by the mp4 12c gt3 :o
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/06/20/nurburgring-24-hours-top-30-shootout-estres-blinder-gives-the-dorr-mclaren-pole.html
I think its a pretty awesome track which is a big test on your own and even harder if battling someon while battling the beast of a place itself. In the 24hr race the winning car did 159 laps I think last year too. So 10 laps is barely a warmup. At the pace GB ran he would have done 170 laps over 24hrs but thats not taking into account safety cars and the much longer pitstops they ran with driver changes.