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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on April 25, 2017, 11:08:23 PM
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It's the final round of the season, where we see if Marty can hang onto his slender lead over Phil to take the championship.
2 x 28 laps, at New Jersey Motorsports Park [TRACK DOWNLOAD (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/new-jersey-motorsports-park-lightning.14212/)]
Weather Forecast (http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/United-States-Of-America/New-Jersey-Motorsports-Park.aspx) (outlook is 27°, mid clear)
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/Meech355/Lightning-Map.jpg)
[youtube]NMpjJe2raNE[/youtube]
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final round already, just starting to tolerate the Porsche and its over
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final round already, just starting to tolerate the Porsche and its over
Dont worry next season you can start the cycle again. ;D
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final round already, just starting to tolerate the Porsche and its over
AHAHAHAHAHAHAA :) :)
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final round already, just starting to tolerate the Porsche and its over
Look at it this way... the sooner you're out of the Porsche, the sooner you'll be in an open wheeler.
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Maybe for Phil we can take the fenders off a 911 that would make it an open wheeler but then the Prada had fenders and was classed an open wheeler. ;D
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I'm getting a checksum error on your server Marty, any ideas?
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I'm getting a checksum error on your server Marty, any ideas?
There was a new version released at some stage. The latest version of the track on RD is 1.1.
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I'm getting a checksum error on your server Marty, any ideas?
Seems I forgot to update server but thought I did, I got the missmatch update track on server and restarted and all good now.
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this should be interesting round, it is going to be a race of tyre management, just lapping normal not over doing it lefts are at about 103 degrees, start pushing they get too warm, and one mistake forget about doing any reasonable pace for a lap or so until they drop 20 or 30 degree.
This is not a complaint, i am looking forward to the tyre management
is it just me or does anyone else think ac does not feel right when tyres are cold or too warm, in any car I have been in at speed , either driving or passenger I have never felt like I am driving on ice, unless I am driving on ice, one of my previous jobs gave me access to basketville and we would unload the old ute at end of the day and even crap tyres never felt like on ice in middle of tassie winter with outside temp of like 10 degree when lapping at basketball, or some of the mazdas and nissans and stuff I got a go in and drive a couple never felt like you would slide off the road cause tyrers were cold.
anyway to me ac feels realistic when tyres are normal temps and it just feels like they made it slippery to simulate cold and hot
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Yeah it does feel a bit much on the initial lap on cold tyres, in the porsche your easily a few seconds off the pace, seems a bit high i havent seen a driver come out of the pits in a race and look like he is in a different class car compared to everyone else on warm tyres lol. Hopefully they reduce it a bit in a update but overall its good.
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this should be interesting round, it is going to be a race of tyre management, just lapping normal not over doing it lefts are at about 103 degrees, start pushing they get too warm, and one mistake forget about doing any reasonable pace for a lap or so until they drop 20 or 30 degree.
This is not a complaint, i am looking forward to the tyre management
is it just me or does anyone else think ac does not feel right when tyres are cold or too warm, in any car I have been in at speed , either driving or passenger I have never felt like I am driving on ice, unless I am driving on ice, one of my previous jobs gave me access to basketville and we would unload the old ute at end of the day and even crap tyres never felt like on ice in middle of tassie winter with outside temp of like 10 degree when lapping at basketball, or some of the mazdas and nissans and stuff I got a go in and drive a couple never felt like you would slide off the road cause tyrers were cold.
anyway to me ac feels realistic when tyres are normal temps and it just feels like they made it slippery to simulate cold and hot
There really is no comparing road cars on street tyres to a car on slicks, completly different experiance and road tyres are designed to work at all temps, slicks are much better when hot and tyre blankets are used in many series mostly because of this. Not saying AC does it perfectly and different compounds will vary how they work out of temp range but get in a car with slicks its amazing how the grip builds as you increase temp.
Jump back into it with cold tyres and the relative grip to hot tyres is pretty large add to that much less forgiving and snappy behavior on slicks vs street or even semi slicks. There is a good reason why slicks arent road legal as there would be low speed carnage everywhere and they would never get to ideal working temp range so have less grip then street tyre even on dry roads.
If you see an inexperianced driver being put into an f1 car for example they will pretty much always give them inter tyres. These dont need to be worked as hard to get to temp and are better when cold plus much more progressive at grip limits compared to slicks.
Saying that I had no issues here with tyre temps, its a fun tricky little track though and very easy to make an error pushing a bit too hard.
Driving Nords in the gt cars is much more about tyre managment to me, softs overheat and mediums mostly dont get to temp so trying to get eother compound to be good over a full lap is quite a challenge.
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UPDATES ON MY PC (for those who are curious/are knowledgeable enough top help):
I have updated windows and reinstalled all interesting drivers (latest NVIDIA). Also uninstalled basically everything possible and more (this PC is used only for driving anyway, so there was not much in it to begin with). And I still have PHY_LATE and freezes, now every few seconds. It's actually impossible to drive. But randomly (especially just after restarting, it is completely sooth and zero PHY_LATE).
EDIT: only other little thing I am noticing is that, when driving, in resource monitor I have CPU6 close to 100% and all others very low. No idea what that might actually mean.
EDIT: FORGET ABOUT THIS: IT'S BAD EVEN JUST AFTER RESTARTING:
1. if you restart the PC and drive---smooth as never. 0 PHY_LATE. All great.
2. the second (and any further) time you launch acs.exe, it's utter crap. Freezes any 3 seconds and each time adds a few PHY_LATE. After 1 minute, I can be with 30 PHY_LATE. But there is no sign of anything eating my RAM or GPU. All looks normal, but that.
I have no clue... :(
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Grat, have you checked CPU temps? To me, that onset of stuttering has always sounded like overheating problems. That could be why it starts off good, and then degrades with stuttering starting.
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CPU? My CPU is always pretty cool, ... I'll check it again now and report.
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Starting temps were 37C for both CPU and GPU.
Did half a lap. CPU temp went to 40 in 10 seconds and then stopped there (+-2 at most). GPU climbed to 70 in 30 seconds or so and stopped there (+-2). PHY_LATEs started almost immediately, climbing at each freezing moment and up in the mid-50s.
framerate is apparently stable. Render app says that CPU is around 30%, and everything else seems low. The only thing is that the blue line in the graph moves (but I have no idea what the blue line is). CAM said everything was alright and said VRAM used 2.0 and VRAM free 2.0.
Only thing I noticed is that AC seems to run always on only one core. It picks one (at random) and fills it up to 100%. Probably this is normal behaviour, but I do not know.
Honestly, I am completely lost, so I'll try whatever you say...
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Those temps seem fine. In assettocorsa.ini, I think there's a setting about number of physics threads. -1 is automatic. That relates to the number of cores used. You could try different values there e. G 2 should use 2 cores.
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Those temps seem fine. In assettocorsa.ini, I think there's a setting about number of physics threads. -1 is automatic. That relates to the number of cores used. You could try different values there e. G 2 should use 2 cores.
Will try! thanks.
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Nope: I set it to 4 and to 24 (you never know) and in both cases nothing changes: one core is close to 100%, others are barely used. I have no idea if this has anything to do with the problem, though.
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Have you got any AV running in the background? maybe try disable this along with any windows background stuff such as Cortana, steam overlays etc.
Also check if your audio driver isnt trying to do weird stuff in the bacground. Try disable audio, run a single screen to test if its an nv surround issue. This for me has regularly been awkward since windows 7 especially if tryimg to force a custom resolution if the pc wakes from sleep it used to lose my custom surround res with bezep correction. I now use the default res and do bezel correction in game with the triole screen app.
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Hi all,
thanks a lot for the help.
It looks like we have ISOLATED THE PROBLEM.
1. When it runs SMOOTH, it runs across ALL CORES. But it is rare, and usually only after a restart.
2. When it runs CRAP, it runs on only 1 CORE, as mentioned before.
@Marty: I have run it with Avast enabled and disabled. I do not know how to kill Cortana permanently, but there is really no particular process eating the GPU or the RAM... I'll keep checking, but it really looks like the problem is that AC does not run on multi-core as it should...
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In Assetto_corsa.ini there is also this setting you can experiment with
[THREADING]
USE_TIMER_PROCESS=-1 ; -1=Automatic, no timer process for CPU with more than 2 cores, timer process for dual cores. 0=Always off. 1=Always on.
SET_THREAD_AFFINITY_MASK=0 ; 0=Windows scheduler will decide where to run the threads. 1=Main thread assigned to Core0, physics thread assigned to Core1
Maybe also try and force acs.exe as higher priority.
With windows background stuff like Cortana and Windows defender you need to dig deep into the system files to disable these, I did all that when I had the stutters. Not sure if they were any way related but once I killed a few background things its run solid since.
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Maybe, just maybe.... I got it. I reverted back and forth the NVIDIA drivers and maybe I have found one that does not do that crazy thing with GPUs. For the first time I could do 3 consecutive sessions without problems. But I do not want to be too optimistic, so I will try again tonight.
For sure, my testing for this week has been pretty limited, as Saturday it is my usual day and I spent it all trying to make the PC work.
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In Assetto_corsa.ini there is also this setting you can experiment with
[THREADING]
USE_TIMER_PROCESS=-1 ; -1=Automatic, no timer process for CPU with more than 2 cores, timer process for dual cores. 0=Always off. 1=Always on.
SET_THREAD_AFFINITY_MASK=0 ; 0=Windows scheduler will decide where to run the threads. 1=Main thread assigned to Core0, physics thread assigned to Core1
Maybe also try and force acs.exe as higher priority.
With windows background stuff like Cortana and Windows defender you need to dig deep into the system files to disable these, I did all that when I had the stutters. Not sure if they were any way related but once I killed a few background things its run solid since.
Thank you,
I did try to set the TIMER PROCESS to 1, but did not do much. I have not tried the priority. Will check that out if the problem returns. I wil also try to regedit some of the windows stuff off if needed.
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Unfortunately I was right in not being too optimistic. I got back in after dinner, and the problem is still there... :(
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Latest news: I completely uninstalled Avast and had a few races with Marty and Mael. Many fingers crossed....
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this should be interesting round, it is going to be a race of tyre management, just lapping normal not over doing it lefts are at about 103 degrees, start pushing they get too warm, and one mistake forget about doing any reasonable pace for a lap or so until they drop 20 or 30 degree.
This is not a complaint, i am looking forward to the tyre management
is it just me or does anyone else think ac does not feel right when tyres are cold or too warm, in any car I have been in at speed , either driving or passenger I have never felt like I am driving on ice, unless I am driving on ice, one of my previous jobs gave me access to basketville and we would unload the old ute at end of the day and even crap tyres never felt like on ice in middle of tassie winter with outside temp of like 10 degree when lapping at basketball, or some of the mazdas and nissans and stuff I got a go in and drive a couple never felt like you would slide off the road cause tyrers were cold.
anyway to me ac feels realistic when tyres are normal temps and it just feels like they made it slippery to simulate cold and hot
"Spinning my M3 at Silverstone on March 3rd 2011 on cold slicks"
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"AE86 spinning on first corner at Taupo race track - cold slicks"
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"My first (and to date only) spin in the Juno. Straight out of the pits, cold slicks. Whoops."
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I will take tyre blankets off the practice server this arvo, so if any people want to practice race starts especially it will be usefull. I think this is one of the trickiest first sectors so dealing with cold tyres here will likely be a proper challenge. Not sure what temps Wally will set for the races but if he gives an idea I can set server up with both race conditions to give an idea there too.
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I will take tyre blankets off the practice server this arvo, so if any people want to practice race starts especially it will be usefull. I think this is one of the trickiest first sectors so dealing with cold tyres here will likely be a proper challenge. Not sure what temps Wally will set for the races but if he gives an idea I can set server up with both race conditions to give an idea there too.
I just checked the weather forecast - it's hot, about 32°.
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Hey Guys..... :( :( :(
Been sick for the last couples of days wit a huge flu,huge,so i have to inform you that i wont be racing tonight,Thx guys
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I regret to say I won't be racing tonight as I am out of town.
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I will take tyre blankets off the practice server this arvo, so if any people want to practice race starts especially it will be usefull. I think this is one of the trickiest first sectors so dealing with cold tyres here will likely be a proper challenge. Not sure what temps Wally will set for the races but if he gives an idea I can set server up with both race conditions to give an idea there too.
Getting some running at the temp. will help but I won't bother with race starts.
Starting from pole with a clear track ahead is NOT what I'm gonna see tonight. ;)
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I will take tyre blankets off the practice server this arvo, so if any people want to practice race starts especially it will be usefull. I think this is one of the trickiest first sectors so dealing with cold tyres here will likely be a proper challenge. Not sure what temps Wally will set for the races but if he gives an idea I can set server up with both race conditions to give an idea there too.
Getting some running at the temp. will help but I won't bother with race starts.
Starting from pole with a clear track ahead is NOT what I'm gonna see tonight. ;)
I just updated the server, the main idea of practicing race starts is if others are also in the server. Admin pass for the practice server is the regular xgn pass so people can easily skip practice and qualy to practice some races, not only do you get some race practice but seeing others lines at a track can normally help give you ideas if your a little off pace.
A practice start solo will teach you as much as you would leaving the pits on cold tyres and even from pole its rare to enter t1 with a clear lead. Race starts I really haven't seen as a big issue in the league and I think some make a bigger deal out of it then others, possibly they may be involved in regular lap 1 contact but then they may likely also be more at fault then they want to accept as it takes 2 to cause a collision. ;)
I would like to see contacts recorded along with season stats, this will show those more prone to contact. Maybe they are just very unlucky or possibly they also could adjust their driving to avoid regularly getting in the situation. The further back in the grid you tend to start however the more likely contact will occur but front of grid has very few issues and there have been some proper battles lap one in these cars as passing is not easy in the race.
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Hey Guys..... :( :( :(
Been sick for the last couples of days wit a huge flu,huge,so i have to inform you that i wont be racing tonight,Thx guys
I hope you feel better soon.
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Server's up. You get a warning about server slots exceeding pit boxes, but you can join OK. I hope that doesn't cause issues. Seanus has checked that the track actually has 32 pits, but the launcher thinks it's got 24.
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Server's up. You get a warning about server slots exceeding pit boxes, but you can join OK. I hope that doesn't cause issues. Seanus has checked that the track actually has 32 pits, but the launcher thinks it's got 24.
Have you updated the content on the server? is this a modified version of the original track as on RD it says
Track Features
24 Pit Boxes
Dynamic racing groove
Track Map
Working AI
4 TV cameras
Time Attack
That's the same link as in the first post so I would be surprised if that had more then 24 spots.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/new-jersey-motorsports-park-lightning.14212/
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Seanus looked inside the track and saw that even though the description says 24 pits, the track actually has 32.
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Seanus looked inside the track and saw that even though the description says 24 pits, the track actually has 32.
Ok I just tested on my server forcing me into car 32 with GUID and it loaded in the pits so seems to be ok. ;)
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I will take tyre blankets off the practice server this arvo, so if any people want to practice race starts especially it will be usefull. I think this is one of the trickiest first sectors so dealing with cold tyres here will likely be a proper challenge. Not sure what temps Wally will set for the races but if he gives an idea I can set server up with both race conditions to give an idea there too.
I just checked the weather forecast - it's hot, about 32°.
I just jumped into server and seems maybe a typo in server setup as its 25c ambient 23c track.
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shame I will have to miss tonight.. too many painkillers in my system and I don't want to drug and drive.. enjoy guys and good luck
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shame I will have to miss tonight.. too many painkillers in my system and I don't want to drug and drive.. enjoy guys and good luck
But you're shameless!
Bad luck Shameless, see you next time.
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shame I will have to miss tonight.. too many painkillers in my system and I don't want to drug and drive.. enjoy guys and good luck
But you're shameless!
Bad luck Shameless, see you next time.
yes while that is true.. with this powerful drug i'm too numb to feel almost anything.. This is the strong painkiller they use in drips in the hospital .. so fun stuff.. I was looking forward to the final race too. I will just have to make sure I'm drug free for may 9th.
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shame I will have to miss tonight.. too many painkillers in my system and I don't want to drug and drive.. enjoy guys and good luck
But you're shameless!
Bad luck Shameless, see you next time.
yes while that is true.. with this powerful drug i'm too numb to feel almost anything.. This is the strong painkiller they use in drips in the hospital .. so fun stuff.. I was looking forward to the final race too. I will just have to make sure I'm drug free for may 9th.
(http://www.ameerrosic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/cocaine.png)
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lol well it was either this or Morphine.. though I've had 2 of those tablets and gamed fine for 6hrs straight.