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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Shameless_1 on April 20, 2017, 12:16:34 AM
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I'd like to do an enduro race at the Nordschleife for 1hr or 1.5hr. I'm in the process of testing the Porsche RSR 2017 vs the Lotus 72d.. or just a 1 make Porsche RSR race. Qualifying would have to be at least 30-40mins to allow at least 1-2 laps to qualify.
Unfkn, Kcender and myself will be testing the lotus 72d vs the RSR on a private server but so far it appears that if the faster guys are in the 72d and the slower guys the RSR its pretty even so far... will no more with further longer testing.
If Wally is ok with this maybe a poll to gather who's interested. I'm also up for a full grid GT3 class and even multiclass GT2, GT3 and one other slower class. GTC or GTE? But I would prefer to use the RSR as I haven't raced it yet.
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I'd be interested in a longer enduro, like 1.5 hrs at Nords. Probably some kind of GT mix.
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I agree with Wally I think a gt mix would be good, mixing an old open wheel f1 and gt I don't think is the best idea for a longer race there.
A while back I ran a race like this at Nords, it was open to all gt cars and people could just chose one they are comfortable with. I haven't really ran gt cars in latest builds so not sure how the new 2017 rsr is compared to older gt2 and gte but even with gt3 its likely they are all within a few seconds at Nords.
Idea for qualy. Set the server for qualy as soon as it's up for the night, i.e skip practice. Run this right up to the start time. Halcyon days.
I think this is the best idea, just have it start as qualy and people can set a qualy lap at any time from when server opens around 6pm until the start of the race. For this to work if people want to keep times if leaving the server it would need to be a preset entry list for the server so they could set a lap early and it will still be there if they jump back in later. All that would be needed is people to nominate which car they want to run and whoever is running the server would just need to set an entry list with GUID's. Using an OSRW version of whichever Nords layout there should be 32 or more grid spots that should easily accommodate anyone possibly interested in running on the night.
I would prefer a race with no forced stops, but if its an hour and a half it would open up strategy and people can stop or not but likely most gt cars wouldn't run that long on a tank of fuel anyway.
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Yeah I'd be interested.
Nords is all about mixed class racing. So why don't add the MX5 into the mix.... OK I'll find my way out now :D
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Yeah I'd be interested.
Nords is all about mixed class racing. So why don't add the MX5 into the mix.... OK I'll find my way out now :D
Completely up to what people want, it could be run as a VLN race with people choosing what class they want to run in, but it would need a reasonable turnout to make at least 3 people in most classes if there was to be GT2/GTE/GT3/GT4 etc.
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I'm keen also. Would life to see multiple stops with no restrictions to add greater strategy aspect to the race. GT cars please...
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yep im in I reckon GT field on VLN or endurance layout?
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Some thoughts:
Mixed, comparable GT cars
Maybe slightly increased fuel consumption just to enforce the need for a few more stops (not sure how long a car can go on one tank at Nords, although tyres may be the limiting factor). Needs some experimentation.
Make the race finish about 5:00 pm game time for evening lightning (using a timed race)
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Some thoughts:
Mixed, comparable GT cars
Maybe slightly increased fuel consumption just to enforce the need for a few more stops (not sure how long a car can go on one tank at Nords, although tyres may be the limiting factor). Needs some experimentation.
Make the race finish about 5:00 pm game time for evening lightning (using a timed race)
My thoughts on an enduro is actually having the option to run a long stint on one set of tyres, raising multipliers to force more stops just means you will go softer tyres and run multiple sprints instead of a longer run on one set. Its likely cars will need to stop for fuel anyway and many may want to change tyres plus probably fix damage ;D it would be nice to run at least a single enduro stint but all our longer races tend to have forced shorter stints with higher multipliers. ;)
If people really like lots of stops we can do a 3 hour race. :)
Another possible option for qualifying could be running the practice server all week as a qualifying server if people dont want to do both a long race and qualifying on the one night, you could maybe stretch the race to 2 hours this way if you take away the 30 minutes most would use for qualifying.
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I'd be interested in a longer enduro, like 1.5 hrs at Nords. Probably some kind of GT mix.
yeah I think GT mix would work best.. but the RSR 2017 wouldn't fit in with any of the classes? and 1.5hrs would be better.
Proper race with no forced number of pit stops.. early morning start so there is sun glare would be a good challenge :)
And yes the lotus 72d was too fast for the RSR anyway.
Marty or Wally.. is there enough cars in gte? or gtc? i see the lotus evora has 2 different race cars, a GX and GTC and they arent exactly slow like the mx-5 so I think they have a place in the field
Please add to or edit the list.. but this is what I can see is the cars list of Assetto.. and could the porsche RSR 2017 fit at all?
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
BMW M235i
BMW M3 GT2
BMW Z4 GT3
Chev Corvette C7R
Ferrari 488 GT3
Ferrari 458 GT2
Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Lamborghini Huracan ST ?
Lotus Evora GTC
Lotus Evora GX
Maserati GC GT4
Mclaren 650s GT3
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3 and the SLS GT3?
Nissan GT-R GT3
Porsche 911 GT3 R
Porsche Cayman GT4
p4/5 Competzione 2011
SGC 003
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I think more stops is better for a long enduro. Not to go ridiculous with it, but preferably more than one stop. That's the only reason I'd bump up a fuel multiplier, if needed. More stops will mix the field up more. I'm thinking 2 or 3 stops only, over 1.5 hrs.
I reckon a long qualifying session on the night will be good enough. The longer the race, the less important qualifying is.
Cold temps might be good, so that people coming out from a pit stop are a bit vulnerable for half a lap or so.
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Car-wise, I'd look at these, from my favourite list here http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/) ;)
Porsche 911 RSR 2017, 0.14, 254
Ferrari 488 GT3, 0.07, 352
Ferrari 458 GT2, 0.17, 492
Lamborghini Huracan GT3, 0.17, 211
McLaren 650S GT3, 0.12, 192
Chevrolet Corvette C7R, 0.05, 201
Nissan GT-R GT3, 0.06, 193
BMW Z4 GT3, 0.01, 283
Audi R8 LMS Ultra, 0.07, 211
SCG 003C, 0.08, 139
Porsche 911 GT3 R 2016, 0.01, 369
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3, 0.02, 179
BMW M3 GT2, 0.54, 294
McLaren MP4-12C GT3, 0.30, 308
Lamborghini Huracan ST, 0.01
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I think more stops is better for a long enduro. Not to go ridiculous with it, but preferably more than one stop. That's the only reason I'd bump up a fuel multiplier, if needed. More stops will mix the field up more. I'm thinking 2 or 3 stops only, over 1.5 hrs.
I reckon a long qualifying session on the night will be good enough. The longer the race, the less important qualifying is.
Cold temps might be good, so that people coming out from a pit stop are a bit vulnerable for half a lap or so.
2 or 3 stops in an hour and a half race your just doing multiple 30 minutes sprints like our current season sprint races, also stopping every 3 or 4 laps which really doesnt seem much of an enduro. If there is no forced stops and people want to stop 3 times then good on them but if someone wants to stop once or if possible no times it would be nice to have the multiple options rather then forcing everyone to stop at pretty much the same laps with forced fuel burn taking away any actual strategic options.
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Yeah, I think you're right.
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give it 2 hour race, no mandatory pit stop. Chances are people will pit for damage and tyres anyway. done.
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The only thing i would like to see forced is a set amount of each car. So we dont get 10 Ferraris and 3 other cars for instance.. say 3 of each car avail only if they dont get it then they have to pick something else so there's a better mixed field..
I dont like forced pit stops not for this. Let people choose when to pit.
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If people are going to run a longer race then maybe best to just let them pick whatever car they want, there wont be any indication of how many will turn up anyway and forcing people to drive a car they dont want to will likely just limit numbers. There are plenty of GT cars to choose from so there will be some variety, in a longer race like this it wont matter so much which car people chose they will all be close enough that your likely to get a decent finish in any car assuming you have a fairly clean race.
I wouldn't be picking the fastest car anyway to get more of a challenge but there shouldn't be much more then 5 seconds between all the gt3/gt2/gte cars at the longer layouts which at this distance shouldn't matter too much.
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yes and no.. i just dont want too many of 1 car and ive seen it too often in the past. 1st in 1st serve, if they really want to race nords for 1.5 hrs it should not matter as there are plenty to choose from
Im a mix between gt3 and gt2.. for choice. I'm going to be slower in either lol.. Even if i chose the RSR i will be doing times of slower cars.
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I'll definitely be in for this
and if it turns out successful then maybe also do endurance races for other tracks as well
Spa Bathurst LeMans etc.
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If people are going to run a longer race then maybe best to just let them pick whatever car they want, there wont be any indication of how many will turn up anyway and forcing people to drive a car they dont want to will likely just limit numbers. There are plenty of GT cars to choose from so there will be some variety, in a longer race like this it wont matter so much which car people chose they will all be close enough that your likely to get a decent finish in any car assuming you have a fairly clean race.
I wouldn't be picking the fastest car anyway to get more of a challenge but there shouldn't be much more then 5 seconds between all the gt3/gt2/gte cars at the longer layouts which at this distance shouldn't matter too much.
With a mixture of cars, subsequent tyre choices and a fuel tank that doesn't get to the end with out at least one refill ensures that people will have various strategies unfolding . . . and keep it interesting!
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I just want to keep it simple. People can nominate what car they want prior to the race and I'll make the grid as per that selection, so everyone can drive the car they want. It's a long race on a very long track, cars are going to be all over the place regardless of what cars are in the mix.
I'll definitely be in for this
and if it turns out successful then maybe also do endurance races for other tracks as well
Spa Bathurst LeMans etc.
...and welcome back Stephen :)
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Endurance layout.
I've just done a couple of laps in the Porsche 911 RSR 2017 (11 laps per tank @ 9:00), and Corvette C7R (9 laps per tank at 9:00) (rough times).
So the Porsche can do 1 hr 39 on one tank, and the Corvette can do 1 hr 21 on one tank.
Other cars... dunno.
Maybe a 2 hr race would be good. I'll put a duration poll up.
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throw the lotus 49 in :)
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Endurance layout.
I've just done a couple of laps in the Porsche 911 RSR 2017 (11 laps per tank @ 9:00), and Corvette C7R (9 laps per tank at 9:00) (rough times).
So the Porsche can do 1 hr 39 on one tank, and the Corvette can do 1 hr 21 on one tank.
Other cars... dunno.
Maybe a 2 hr race would be good. I'll put a duration poll up.
Is this is 1x.. maybe up the fuel usage so it forces a fuel stop at least?
VLN runs the endurance cup layout. I think this would be a better choice.. Still get a portion of nurburgring to break up nords. But I'd race either.
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Endurance layout.
I've just done a couple of laps in the Porsche 911 RSR 2017 (11 laps per tank @ 9:00), and Corvette C7R (9 laps per tank at 9:00) (rough times).
So the Porsche can do 1 hr 39 on one tank, and the Corvette can do 1 hr 21 on one tank.
Other cars... dunno.
Maybe a 2 hr race would be good. I'll put a duration poll up.
Is this is 1x.. maybe up the fuel usage so it forces a fuel stop at least?
VLN runs the endurance cup layout. I think this would be a better choice.. Still get a portion of nurburgring to break up nords. But I'd race either.
Even if it was a 1 hour race why force higher multipliers to force a stop? If someone wants to do it on one set of tyres saving time on a stop and the car will then leaving that option is ok. If some want to split the race into 1 or more stops then they are also fine to do so, people complain when everyone picks the same tyres and strategy when they usually get forced into it by higher mulitpliers. If someone so feels they may be at a disadvantage in one car over another then pick another car or stick to a different strategy, all these cars will vary a fair bit on fuel and tyre mileage so pick one that suits the race your wanting to race or just deal with what options your car gives you. ;)
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I agree with Marty.
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Endurance layout.
I've just done a couple of laps in the Porsche 911 RSR 2017 (11 laps per tank @ 9:00), and Corvette C7R (9 laps per tank at 9:00) (rough times).
So the Porsche can do 1 hr 39 on one tank, and the Corvette can do 1 hr 21 on one tank.
Other cars... dunno.
Maybe a 2 hr race would be good. I'll put a duration poll up.
FYI, the Ferrari 488 GT3 can do 7 laps per tank.
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Not sure which track your thinking Wally, I have a practice server up at the Enduro sprint layout which is the shorter VLN variant not the full 24hr. I put it up with the OSRW version as this allows 34 cars and put in all the gt2/gte and gt3 cars including the p4/5 which is kind of in the middle but likely not used much. Not sure if that is in your car list but I dont think I missed any of the gt cars, there will likely be differences between the gt3 cars and the gt2/e cars in terms of tyres and aero with more aero and better tyres plus more choices.
I did a 1 hour test in the mclaren 650s gt3 with medium tyres, full fuel would got about 82 minutes with lap times around 8:10 and for 1 hour the tyres went away a bit but laptimes balanced out a bit with the fuel burn. I think soft tyres have changed a bit since we last ran gt3 cars and possibly these will go further and in an hour and half race if the car cant make it on fuel then it gives options for soft/soft or med soft maybe even just mediums full run and a quick fuel top up. Over 2 hours all cars will need at least one stop but if people run different cars this will change strategies a bit as each car will likely have a different way to tackle the race. Some may even want to fuel save a bit and get there with no stop if possible which could work out quicker then having to stop.
edit: I had the regular official layout on the server yesterday with no issues, ran a couple laps on the OSRW and lost connection to the server. I will jump back in after updating all content and see if this fixes the issue. If others can jump in at some point and test if there is possibly an issue with the OSRW version of Nords, I dont see why though as there havent been issues with any others recently.
Here is the latest link from the official forums of the OSRW nords tracks.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c4ze67ae33bzl88/Nordschleife_Endurance_Cup_34pits_AC1.7.rar
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I was thinking the full endurance layout, with the Nurburgring attached. With over 21 km, what's a few more hundred metres :)
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Car-wise, I'd look at these, from my favourite list here http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/ (http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/) ;)
Porsche 911 RSR 2017, 0.14, 254
Ferrari 488 GT3, 0.07, 352
Ferrari 458 GT2, 0.17, 492
Lamborghini Huracan GT3, 0.17, 211
McLaren 650S GT3, 0.12, 192
Chevrolet Corvette C7R, 0.05, 201
Nissan GT-R GT3, 0.06, 193
BMW Z4 GT3, 0.01, 283
Audi R8 LMS Ultra, 0.07, 211
SCG 003C, 0.08, 139
Porsche 911 GT3 R 2016, 0.01, 369
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3, 0.02, 179
BMW M3 GT2, 0.54, 294
McLaren MP4-12C GT3, 0.30, 308
Lamborghini Huracan ST, 0.01
Here is the list on the server atm
audi_r8_lms;
bmw_m3_gt2;
bmw_z4_gt3;
corvette_c7r;
ferrari_458_gt2
ferrari_488_gt3
lamborghini_huracan_gt3
mclaren_650_gt3
mclaren_mp412c_gt3
mercedes_sls_gt3
mercedes_amg_gt3
nissan_gtr_gt3
p4-5_2011
porsche_911_gt3_r_2016
porsche_911_rsr_2017
glickenhaus_scg003
Wally's list for some reason doesnt include the SLS AMG GT3, but also includes the huracan st which I dont see any reasonto include the lamborghini cup car if the huracan gt3 is there and is a better fit. P4/5 should be fairly close but its a car forgotton by most and so likely has not many proper fast laps in rsr.
The Evora gtc is similar to gt3 spec the GX is more gt2 spec but both are slightly underpowered to other cars in those classes. They could be included but its unlikely anyone would chose them or the p4/5.
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I think you are all putting in a lot of effort for a fun run which will probably have about 8 drivers in it
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I think you are all putting in a lot of effort for a fun run which will probably have about 8 drivers in it
You can always put in some effort or suggest something you want to race ;)
Last nords enduro got a solid turnout between seasons and if we mention this also at say the Rooz league we can likely get 30 or more for this race. We could do between season longer races more often with things like a full f1 race for example.
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I think you are all putting in a lot of effort for a fun run which will probably have about 8 drivers in it
You're onto us... we like organising more than racing ;)
It's not complex... a list of cars at Nords.
Marty's list is fine. The Merc is slow, but hey, if someone enjoys driving it...
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I wasn't meaning to be disrespectful, I just meant with such a long track and maybe few people no matter what you drive not many will be racing with other cars after half a lap
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An enduro at Nords will always have limited entrance but how about inviting some non-XGN members? Sort of a multi-forum event? I drivers like Cherno might enjoy a outing at the ring ;D
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Just curious why even have the SLS and the MP4-12c when the specs appear to be exact? just the amg and the 650s would be enough
Could the huracan st compete with the rsr at all? from testing the huracan st looks to chew tyres and i think fuel too..
and what about damage? should it be run a tad lower considering the track.. too high and people would most likely quit.. perhaps the same level as thurs nights?
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I'm just going to chuck a bunch of comparable cars up; people can choose what they like to drive. It really doesn't matter. After 2 hours, half of us will have rage quit and the rest will be all over the circuit. That's why it's more important just to choose a car you enjoy driving and can be consistent in. It is no way an exact science.
I'd probably reduce damage to 50%. You still need to have some fear of hitting the barriers, otherwise you might as well just drive to the shops.
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Just curious why even have the SLS and the MP4-12c when the specs appear to be exact? just the amg and the 650s would be enough
Could the huracan st compete with the rsr at all? from testing the huracan st looks to chew tyres and i think fuel too..
and what about damage? should it be run a tad lower considering the track.. too high and people would most likely quit.. perhaps the same level as thurs nights?
The SLS and MP4 are gt3 cars just older generation and having more options in them is not a bad thing, if people chose those or not is another thing so having them available makes little difference as they fit the class. The Huracan st is not gt class at all its from the Lamborghini Trofeo cup and we have the same car in gt3 class already in the Huracan gt3 so I dont see why you would add the car that doesnt fit as well as the same model in actual gt3 spec.
All the cars on the list I put up are either built for GT3, gt2 or gte spec specifically. If people want proper multi class racing then adding gt4 or slower styled production based cars can be an option. If people wanted true single class racing then best to go just gt3 but there is not so much between the GT classes that they all could still compete relatively well with eachother.
Damage I dont know 100% seems best after all an enduro is to see who can survive the best over a long race not those smashing walls every kilometer and getting away with it, I think anyone with reasonable track knowledge could complete the race clean it just means driving to your limits and ability pushing as hard as you dare and can manage, take away most of the risk of damage and it becomes less important to actually drive clean. If there is no damage, no fuel or tyre wear (not that that has been suggested) its not really much of an enduro just a long hotlap session. Full damage in recent 1 hour races have made no difference to having lower damage, higher damage will likely make people take more care early.
People will likely quite anyway as the same people quit in most sprint races, enduros or anything else. Being a long race with full damage it would mean people can go to pits for repairs and as they likely wont be the only ones needing this it means they can continue on after an issue and still gain some spots over the end of the race.
I did an hour and half race at Bathurst and with lowered damage it meant many got away with smashing lots of walls and so put better drivers that could race clean for the full distance at more of a disadvantage. Having some people choose the fastest car and be able to over drive the full distance with little care for damage makes it less likely to compete with them in a slightly slower car. Add full damage and those that do best will likely also be those that have the least amount of mistakes.
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I'm just going to chuck a bunch of comparable cars up; people can choose what they like to drive. It really doesn't matter. After 2 hours, half of us will have rage quit and the rest will be all over the circuit. That's why it's more important just to choose a car you enjoy driving and can be consistent in. It is no way an exact science.
I'd probably reduce damage to 50%. You still need to have some fear of hitting the barriers, otherwise you might as well just drive to the shops.
The same people will rage quit after 1 spin at 50% damage as they would at 100% damage, I find it funny people wanting enduros in a sim then want to turn most sim and endurance features down. ;) A wall whack wont cost so much time as 100% damage isn't as excessive as it used to be, it may cost 5-10 seconds per lap at most and so getting back to pits for repairs or continuing on is the choice. Obviously trying to drive in a way to avoid damage yet be as fast as you can is the best option.
I changed the practice server over to the full enduro layout and added the Lotus Evora GX and GTC as possibly some may want to run them and they arent too much slower then the rest and so the list includes all cars close to GTE to gt3 spec available officialy.
If we could get the track Gzero mentioned to test if timing works with the shortcut out lap and also works in a race it would be a good test saving 9 minute outlaps on the full layout. If the timing doesn't work properly then using the OSRW version will be good enough.
Also the not seeing other people on track is really no different at Nords over a longer race as anywhere else, the only extra people your seeing on smaller tracks are cars your lapping or those that are lapping you. The people your battling you would not likely be lapping at a 2 minute track in an hour and a half so it wont be any different on a bigger track, it can be a pretty boring race anywhere but at least Nords is just fun to lap no matter the car. If you get into a good battle its even better but if you don't then its easy enough to just keep on driving.
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then lets make it even more interesting.
scrap all the GT spec cars and lets race the SUVs. It's a fun enduro.
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I must be delirious or delusional, or both, I'll take a Chevrolet...
???
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Damage I dont know 100% seems best after all an enduro is to see who can survive the best over a long race not those smashing walls every kilometer and getting away with it, I think anyone with reasonable track knowledge could complete the race clean it just means driving to your limits and ability pushing as hard as you dare and can manage, take away most of the risk of damage and it becomes less important to actually drive clean. If there is no damage, no fuel or tyre wear (not that that has been suggested) its not really much of an enduro just a long hotlap session. Full damage in recent 1 hour races have made no difference to having lower damage, higher damage will likely make people take more care early.
People will likely quite anyway as the same people quit in most sprint races, enduros or anything else. Being a long race with full damage it would mean people can go to pits for repairs and as they likely wont be the only ones needing this it means they can continue on after an issue and still gain some spots over the end of the race.
I did an hour and half race at Bathurst and with lowered damage it meant many got away with smashing lots of walls and so put better drivers that could race clean for the full distance at more of a disadvantage. Having some people choose the fastest car and be able to over drive the full distance with little care for damage makes it less likely to compete with them in a slightly slower car. Add full damage and those that do best will likely also be those that have the least amount of mistakes.
100% on a fun enduro seems a bit excessive and I'm basing my original comment about damage on people like Phil who I am sure would like to race but doesn't know the track as well as others and I'm sure he's not alone. And by you're logic the tuesday league races should all be clean but so many people are coming off, hitting walls and causing accidents from the 1st lap onwards. People are bound to have brain fades, fatigue and accidents involving other cars. Just because you may get lucky and not hit anyone, doesn't mean someone won't hit you.. its all a risk.. I think 50% damage that Wally suggested is reasonable.
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If making it 50% as Wally suggested gets more starters then fine, it still wont make much difference in the end. Its not like the people worried about damaging the car so much are only going to have 1 contact so have 5 at 50% damage isnt going to be much better for them. Nords is a tricky track but a great place for an enduro as you really need to choose where to push a bit more and where to maybe leave a few tenths behind to ensure you dont have a small error that ends up in a huge off.
I had done all my earlier laps in the 650s gt3 as its one I drove in a past gt3 season, then I drove the 911 rsr 2017 gte and was surprised I wasnt miles quicker in that. Was only 2 seconds though my setup was rather unstable in it and there is likely much more time to get in that then in the 650. The good thing is now gt3 cars seem to have more similar tyres to the gte cars or at least the 911 rsr, in the past the gt3 cars had a useless soft tyre that was more like a qualy tyre but now you can run pretty long on them much like you could gt2/gte softs.
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Just saw this come up on my YT feed, seems they had a Nords 24hr qualifying race over the weekend.
[youtube]Mem1IRtWDfw[/youtube]
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Nordschleife with GP Sprint minus Arena. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6YBokXY5o8QMWlfTnNFcmhHZlU)
For testing purposes.
Will test this tomorrow to see how timing works, Wally wanted to do 24hr layout so full gp minus mercedes arena but to test this will do. All pit spots would need to be in the gp pits and same with all grid locations, having grid seperated is a good idea if running a proper mixed class race which this one isnt looking like atm.
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Nordschleife with GP Sprint minus Arena. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6YBokXY5o8QMWlfTnNFcmhHZlU)
For testing purposes.
Crashes out for me on loading. The error in the log shows:
"LOADING MODEL content/tracks/ks_nordschleife/119.kn5
CRASH in:
OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
d:\dev\dev_release13\acs\camerafacing.cpp (57): CameraFacing::CameraFacing"
Some problem with the track cameras?
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Hey guys!! What about drinking a six pack while listening to rock and roll and relax instead of racing!!!!???
My 2 cents🤒🤒🤒
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Hey guys!! What about drinking a six pack while listening to rock and roll and relax instead of racing!!!!???
My 2 cents🤒🤒🤒
You can do both!
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Damn double Damn. Looks like my efforts to clean up and minimise the upload has messed something up as it also crashes for me now.
So unfortunately this has become too much trouble. I'll fix the track and upload it later to my perversed layouts thread for use in, if this event proves itself repeat worthy, future races.
Yep, thanks for your efforts as always, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Damn double Damn. Looks like my efforts to clean up and minimise the upload has messed something up as it also crashes for me now.
So unfortunately this has become too much trouble. I'll fix the track and upload it later to my perversed layouts thread for use in, if this event proves itself repeat worthy, future races.
Did the timing work properly for you when using the gp circuit cut? Its a shame they dont have this on the official track but seeing what haopens on old Monza full layout I doubt the cut will work. On that layout the start line is on the outer main straight with pits on the inner but lap timing doesnt work properly until you cross the start line a second time.
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http://www.dualshockers.com/2017/04/23/watch-brave-sim-racers-driver-24-hours-nurburgring-iracing/
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http://www.dualshockers.com/2017/04/23/watch-brave-sim-racers-driver-24-hours-nurburgring-iracing/ (http://www.dualshockers.com/2017/04/23/watch-brave-sim-racers-driver-24-hours-nurburgring-iracing/)
That's cool. Great race coverage in the videos there.
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I was in that race on the weekend. Not the top split that was being broadcasted but one of the lower splits. I ended up doing 5x full fuel stints which was about 5 1/2 hours and in that time I only got 1 incident point because I barely touched the grass on the inside of the chicane on the GP track. Other then that I had a clean race.
Can't say the same for my team mates though, between them our car had quite a few crashes. I'm not sure how long our car was in the pits getting repairs done over the course of the 24hr race. Around 2hrs would be a decent guess. It was still good fun, I will be doing it again next year. Next 24hr race at iracing will be Le Mans in June.
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good effort Shayne, I started at 11pm and went on to about 2:45ish as I had to be up early the next morning. Was running 5th in my server group until I just kissed the wall and spent 15min in pits. From there on, very clean laps in my Audi.
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Tested a few cars and seems the p 4/5 is a bit too slow so unlikely anyone will pick that, about 20 seconds off the pace just down on power quite a bit and hasnt got a great deal of grip either so not a lot going for it lol.
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Tested a few cars and seems the p 4/5 is a bit too slow so unlikely anyone will pick that, about 20 seconds off the pace just down on power quite a bit and hasnt got a great deal of grip either so not a lot going for it lol.
That's why I originally excluded it, for being too slow. But hey, someone might just enjoy driving it for 2 hours.
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Yea its an option, seemed it was a bit closer in the past but I realpy hadnt driven it much. Main issue with it is even on softs it struggles to get front temps up and down on power needs a bit less aero. Probably in warmer temps it would be a bit quicker considering the m3 gt2 is similar top speed but its got plenty of grip so was only 4 seconds between the 911 rsr, 650s gt3 and m3 gt2 for me.
The temps will be a bit tricky as medium tyres are only a few seconds slower then softs but struggle for temps especially at the start of a new lap. The long straight really drops temps and on mediums your losing 1 to 2 seconds on the gp track due to cold under pressured front tyres. The softs in the cars I ran get sketchy the last few km of Nords but are generally better the rest of the lap.
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The handful of cars I've tested have only had 8 or so seconds between them.
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I have just been reading my way through all the post of this thread and I think it's a great idea, something I'd love to be a part of now that I think I have my screaming headset problem sorted. The idea of endurance racing in GT cars with a decent level of damage is great as it forces people to drive for the conditions and their place in the race, which makes it more realistic. The one thing I couldn't find was when such an event might be run....
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I have just been reading my way through all the post of this thread and I think it's a great idea, something I'd love to be a part of now that I think I have my screaming headset problem sorted. The idea of endurance racing in GT cars with a decent level of damage is great as it forces people to drive for the conditions and their place in the race, which makes it more realistic. The one thing I couldn't find was when such an event might be run....
You're a day late dude :o
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I have just been reading my way through all the post of this thread and I think it's a great idea, something I'd love to be a part of now that I think I have my screaming headset problem sorted. The idea of endurance racing in GT cars with a decent level of damage is great as it forces people to drive for the conditions and their place in the race, which makes it more realistic. The one thing I couldn't find was when such an event might be run....
You're a day late dude :o
We're thinking of having some enduros of this kind in between seasons in future.