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Title: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 12, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
RACE 1 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/09/s18r5-ford-escort-at-vallelunga-race-1.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/09/s18r5-ford-escort-at-vallelunga-race-2.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/07/season-18-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=1137345101)

Penalties
The marshalls were kept busy this round!
Race 1
Bacchulum ran into the rear of Wally (ballast penalty).
Freezer clipped the rear corner of Phil and sent him off track. Because Phil was squarely on the racing line and Freezer was rejoining the line after going over a kerb, Freezer gets a ballast penalty.
RussG banged into Phil’s side twice, the second time enough to send Phil off the track (ballast penalty).
JamieP ran up the inside of Rob and didn’t really make the turn, spinning Rob (penalty ballast).

Race 2
Bacchulum ran into the back of Freezer under brakes (ballast penalty). This set up a chain reaction of cars being squeezed off the track to avoid the stationary spun cars.

There was a lot of slow congestion in one of the slow corners, with a bit of three-side side-to-side contact, where Bacchulum came off. It looks like everyone was being careful trying to negotiate the corner, so that’s a racing incident.


Round Points
buellersdayoff   99
Mael   94
GymHippo   90
Joe   83
Freezer   80
ab156   78
Seanus   78
Matthew111   77
Jeremy   74
Phil.8   67
Shayne   67
Wally   67
Dr.Dinkum   58
diehard   55
RussG   54
Bacchulum   51
bradc   51
Doobs   44
killagorilla   44
JamieP   38
AJ   36
Rob   35
Dave O   33
DC   0

Congratulations to Mael and buellersdayoff on the race wins, and buellersdayoff for pole and also the two fastest lap times, giving him the round win.

Season Podium
1. Phil.8, 329
2. Kcender87, 327
3. Matthew111 and Joe, 319

Teams Podium
1. Krahl Racing, 647
2. Struggle Street Racing Crew, 631
3. Maki Engineering, 605
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on September 12, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
Race 1
Sorry Wally, I simply got distracted by the car on the outside, when he gave it a squirt so did I but you were there.
My bad. :(

Race 2
Sorry Freezer, I was 4-wide, on the inside behind you but (being on the inside) I totally missed my brake marker and simply locked up into you.
My bad. :(
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on September 12, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
Enjoyed that and did a lot better than I thought I would with the 87% restrictor.

Race 1 got a pretty good start, slight touch with someone of the second apex of the double apex at the bottom of the hill. Think I got past GymnasticHippo at one stage but he got the place back. I was on his tail as he seemed to be struggling more with tyres but I couldn't make a pass and finished 4th (I think)

Race 2 started 3rd and had a few people take me off the line, then went wide onto the sand a little on the double apex and lost several positions due to that but at the next corner there was a spin; think somebody hit Freezer and I managed to get around the outside and into 4th. Seanus gave a good chase and we had some good side by side battles for a bit but he eventually got me down the back straight as did AB. After that I stayed fairly close to AB with Freezer slowly catching me but managed to keep it clean and finish 6th.

Good results but probably not going to help me in the restrictor department for next week  :o
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: GymnasticHippo on September 12, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
Awesome racing guys, got a slight bump on the double apex T2/3 which damaged my aero just enough to a PITA; managed to hold onto a solid third. What was weird was that PTracker kept showing me as leading with Mael second yet i could clearly see him a few seconds ahead... weird  ???

Started 4th on race 2. got the jump and was looking to slot comfortable into 2nd with room to spare before the double apex and i miss 3rd just as i'm about to split the middle  ::)  Luckily didn't blow the box. Watched Mael slowly pull away lap on lap and i was trying to conserve rubber a little too. Started focusing on managing the gap from Seanus who was gaining good ground mid-race. Managed to keep him to 2sec and then extend that out after switching over to "I don't give a @#$% about the tyres anymore" mode haha. managed a solid 3rd again.

Not sure who mentioned at the end about hating this track on a single monitor... i'm running a single monitor but I found an App that at least helps out a little bit - especially for us single screen users. It's called Real Head Motion and enables you to set a specified 'look into the corner' including a buffer based on wheel input. It's made a huge improvement as i know the reality of me switching out to 3 screens in sweet FA.
link the app http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/real-head-motion-1-0-2.4755/

Hope it helps :)

Thanks for a solid night racing lads
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on September 12, 2017, 10:16:07 PM
Race 2
Sorry Freezer, I was 4-wide, on the inside behind you but (being on the inside) I totally missed my brake marker and simply locked up into you.
My bad. :(
All good Bacchulum.  Thankfully I kept it going and only lost a couple of spots.. :)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 12, 2017, 10:26:08 PM
Its frustrating been blown away down the straights and off the start, even by cars with just a few more restrictor , qualifying is ok as I can corner without been held up, but the starts are an instant 5 places lost then its just backwards from there as I get passed on every straight, hoping for short twisty track soon  8)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chatl
Post by: bradc on September 12, 2017, 10:54:55 PM
Race 1: Totally buggered up the start and was 2nd  last and then after dodging some pretty average punts down the back of the field I managed to get into the teens before I myself was punted off at the last corner and was dead last - a totally avoidable situation where all the following car had to do was lift instead of doing a MrPlow impersonation. I know we've had a mid season break but it's bloody frustrating when you see people who can't seem to race without hitting the car in front of them. Yes people are running restrictors which means some are faster in the corners and others faster down the straights and it dissapointing that some people can't drive to the people around them and/or show respect to their fellow competitor.

Race 2: Got caught up in someone else's spin in the middle of the lap and was dead last all over again. I took to the grass to avoid the spin and was tagged by a spinning car, nothing more than a racing incident and as frustrating as it was, just had to suck it up. I then raced as hard as I could and I managed to catch killagrilla however I was unable to take adavange of his errors and put on enough of a clean pass to make it stick, meaning I had a few attempts but had to yield each time to avoid contact. Whilst my best chance was on the last lap on the exit of the long front straight I just couldn't get it done and kudos to him.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 12, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
Results in first post.

Congratulations to Phil on still being Mr. 100%  :-X
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on September 12, 2017, 11:53:42 PM
RussG banged into Phil’s side twice, the second time enough to send Phil off the track (ballast penalty).

Could someone upload Race 1 replay? AC is so brain dead at saving replays that I have Race 2 and 19 other older replays saved. AC has a limit of saving 20 race replays, but when you hit the limit it deletes the MOST RECENT replay. Well thought out ...
I remember bumping Phil once on the last lap I think. I'd just like to see the footage.

Thanks
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 13, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
Race 1 didn't get off to a good start when I was turned around and left facing oncoming traffic. That left me as good as last, but I pulled off a few inside passes and mostly made ground by dodging other people's mistakes. It ended up being a good race with AJ, Dr. Dinkum and Brad.


Race 2 was all about being chased by Phil (with some good moments changing positions with DC). Of course he'd catch up in the slower sections, keeping the pressure up, but I'd pull away in the straights. I knew I couldn't make a mistake.


The car was starting to feel pretty understeery by the end of the race.


When you watch a bit of the replay, the racing really is very good. Lots of tight packs, side by side moves, a bit of rubbing. Sometimes it comes unstuck, but when you watch so many cars, mostly the racing is really good quality.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on September 13, 2017, 10:42:52 AM
Two solid races. In race one got handed a substantial lead during the opening first few corners. A easy win was on the cards if I managed to keep it clean.

Race two was a race long effort to put pressure on Buellers, it would have required a mistake from him to give me a chance to overtake. In total he ran slightly wide twice, touched a sausage curb once but no mistake big enough to even give me a chance to get close. Well driven!

Together with Freezer's solid results Team Maki Engineering championship bid is still alive, sadly Freezer may feel a bit overweight next week  :(



Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 13, 2017, 11:08:36 AM
Results in first post.

Congratulations to Phil on still being Mr. 100%  :-X

Yay its a badge of honor,  although I suspect by the last race of the season I will not be able to keep the lead losing 10 or more points a around
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on September 13, 2017, 11:29:35 AM
Im just surprised mael lasted not 1, but 2 races without crashing.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on September 13, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
Im just surprised mael lasted not 1, but 2 races without crashing.

You and me both Joe. But luckily everybody gave me a wide berth, must be scared or something? At least the next race has some good tight corners made for rubbing doors  ;)

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Yay its a badge of honor,  although I suspect by the last race of the season I will not be able to keep the lead losing 10 or more points a around

Problem is once anybody gets close to you on the points table they will also have close to 100% restrictor. And keeping up with you on equal footing is near impossible  :P
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on September 13, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
RussG banged into Phil’s side twice, the second time enough to send Phil off the track (ballast penalty).

Could someone upload Race 1 replay? AC is so brain dead at saving replays that I have Race 2 and 19 other older replays saved. AC has a limit of saving 20 race replays, but when you hit the limit it deletes the MOST RECENT replay. Well thought out ...
I remember bumping Phil once on the last lap I think. I'd just like to see the footage.

Thanks
I second that request for a replay or R1 if anyone has it!  Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 13, 2017, 02:39:20 PM
RussG banged into Phil’s side twice, the second time enough to send Phil off the track (ballast penalty).

Could someone upload Race 1 replay? AC is so brain dead at saving replays that I have Race 2 and 19 other older replays saved. AC has a limit of saving 20 race replays, but when you hit the limit it deletes the MOST RECENT replay. Well thought out ...
I remember bumping Phil once on the last lap I think. I'd just like to see the footage.

Thanks
I second that request for a replay or R1 if anyone has it!  Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)


By all means provide some opinions. I had to watch a lot of things from several cars and several angles.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: bradc on September 13, 2017, 08:00:47 PM
Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)

And yet some might say not hard enough, seeing it seems anything after lap 1 was not even looked at. With this being my first season with this group it's been very clear to me that so long as you race clean on lap 1 for the rest of the race you can drive like a PlayStation warrior punting AI and no one cares because it didn't happen on lap 1....
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on September 13, 2017, 08:05:35 PM
Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)

And yet some might say not hard enough, seeing it seems anything after lap 1 was not even looked at. With this being my first season with this group it's been very clear to me that so long as you race clean on lap 1 for the rest of the race you can drive like a PlayStation warrior punting AI and no one cares because it didn't happen on lap 1....
There is way to much time required for Wally to review the whole race so lap 1 it is.  That said, the normal standard of racing here is very good and the PlayStation analogy is simply wrong!
p.s. I was being sarcastic, as from memory there was a bit or argy bargy prior to the incident I was penalised for so I wanted to see the replay to confirm!
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: GymnasticHippo on September 13, 2017, 08:36:06 PM
Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)

And yet some might say not hard enough, seeing it seems anything after lap 1 was not even looked at. With this being my first season with this group it's been very clear to me that so long as you race clean on lap 1 for the rest of the race you can drive like a PlayStation warrior punting AI and no one cares because it didn't happen on lap 1....

Interesting view point. As a fellow newbie on my first season I have to say I didn't really get that vibe (totally understand its your personal opinion too - please don't think i'm trying to say you're wrong  :) )

My understanding is that lap one would be scrutinized by default as that would typically be where its most likely for carnage to occur. And as others have said, it would take a truckload of time to review (considering we race for approx 90 minutes each week).

That said, if there's something particularly awry about someone's driving behaviour at some stage throughout the rest of the race that deliberately causes carnage I feel (and correct me if i'm wrong here @Wally) you'd have grounds to contact the Wally as the moderator of the league for review. Perhaps having reviewed the incident yourself on replay so you can help him pinpoint the moment in question.

Cheers,
GH
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 13, 2017, 08:36:58 PM
Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)

And yet some might say not hard enough, seeing it seems anything after lap 1 was not even looked at. With this being my first season with this group it's been very clear to me that so long as you race clean on lap 1 for the rest of the race you can drive like a PlayStation warrior punting AI and no one cares because it didn't happen on lap 1....
Yeah, that's harsh brad. I know you copped a bump or two, but that's why I made the point earlier about watching some more of the racing in replay. There is a vast majority of really good racing going on, with 24 cars on a track with some quite slow corners. To put it into persepctive, 18 laps at Vallelunga by 24 cars equates to over 1,700 km of race distance, and we had 65 touches in total. That includes all little rubs and scrapes. That's 0.037 touches of any sort per km.

Like Freezer said, there's no way I can adjudicate every collision over the whole race. It takes long enough just to look at lap 1 and then decide who's at fault, if anyone is.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Shayne on September 13, 2017, 08:42:46 PM
Stewards have come down hard so need to review it!  :)

And yet some might say not hard enough, seeing it seems anything after lap 1 was not even looked at. With this being my first season with this group it's been very clear to me that so long as you race clean on lap 1 for the rest of the race you can drive like a PlayStation warrior punting AI and no one cares because it didn't happen on lap 1....

This is not exactly true. If someone wrongs you throughout the race, you can always request that Wally look at it. Wally is only initially looking at the first lap otherwise he'll be at it all night but if someone takes you out throughout a race and doesn't redress it then just make note of the lap it happened on so Wally can look at it later.
This is actually something that I'm unsure of myself, I've seen it done before so always believed it's a possibility to request any incident be looked at further. If Wally could confirm this, that would be great.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: bradc on September 13, 2017, 11:41:29 PM

Yeah, that's harsh brad. I know you copped a bump or two, but that's why I made the point earlier about watching some more of the racing in replay. There is a vast majority of really good racing going on, with 24 cars on a track with some quite slow corners. To put it into persepctive, 18 laps at Vallelunga by 24 cars equates to over 1,700 km of race distance, and we had 65 touches in total. That includes all little rubs and scrapes. That's 0.037 touches of any sort per km.

Like Freezer said, there's no way I can adjudicate every collision over the whole race. It takes long enough just to look at lap 1 and then decide who's at fault, if anyone is.

Just calling it how I'm seeing/feeling it - my statistics of experiencing being punted off track 5 times and seeing 0 intervention would counter such an argument of clean racing.  I don't know why it keeps happening, but it does and it's extremely demotivating. I understand we all make mistakes, however it's plain to see that some people need to learn that the race is won on the last lap and not the first couple.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 14, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
Yes, I've made the offer before that if you feel you've been unfairly hit later in the race, you can ask me to review the incident. Tell me the race, lap and who you think hit you (to make it easy for me to find the incident), and I'll review it.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on September 14, 2017, 09:46:06 AM

Yeah, that's harsh brad. I know you copped a bump or two, but that's why I made the point earlier about watching some more of the racing in replay. There is a vast majority of really good racing going on, with 24 cars on a track with some quite slow corners. To put it into persepctive, 18 laps at Vallelunga by 24 cars equates to over 1,700 km of race distance, and we had 65 touches in total. That includes all little rubs and scrapes. That's 0.037 touches of any sort per km.

Like Freezer said, there's no way I can adjudicate every collision over the whole race. It takes long enough just to look at lap 1 and then decide who's at fault, if anyone is.

Just calling it how I'm seeing/feeling it - my statistics of experiencing being punted off track 5 times and seeing 0 intervention would counter such an argument of clean racing.  I don't know why it keeps happening, but it does and it's extremely demotivating. I understand we all make mistakes, however it's plain to see that some people need to learn that the race is won on the last lap and not the first couple.

You were unlucky.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on September 14, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
I was slow.

Race 1. I was slow. Had some good racing.

Race 2. I was still slow. Had some really good racing.(edit) and a big shout-out to my teammate for reintroducing the "Malachi Crunch" on Dave O I think it was, at turn one. Had I known I would have given up that corner. That could have been some really good racing. I lost a little bit of traction coming through the last corner and Dave had a little bit of speed on me down the straight and was along side into turn one sequence. I wanted to hold position because I would had had the inside line through the second part of the sweeping S's. Fast chicane really. I didn't see that Bacchulum had a run on DaveO on the inside of him into the first part of the turn and we went in three wide. Because I'd compromised DaveO's line he couldn't really couldn't give Bacchulum the little bit of room he needed, and we came together in the famous "Malachi Crunch". Unfortunately it had the same effect on me as was suffered by the Malachi's when trying to finish Pinky Tuscadero. I went off and lost enough time that I couldn't get back in touch with them. Both were too fast for me anyway and it was fun racing. I thought it was hilarious, but I'm a bit special.

My impressions of the night. First night back after three weeks I'm not surprised there were a few more incidents than usual, but it was clean from my race point. Mid field can be a bit of a lottery for the first five laps because you're all around the some overall times but the different restrictions mean there can be a couple of areas where the speed differences are greater, making it a challenge.

As a separate issue:
I don't know who was doing the speaking on Teamspeak, but could you please keep your indignance and outrage for after the race, and do it here; or don't push your button and make your significant other listen to it. I know it's frustrating, but I'm not interested in hearing it during the race. I'm trying not to hit people, avoid accidents, and drive as fast as my slow arse can manage.
Cheers
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on September 14, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
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Malachi Crunch

Had to google it  ;D

And yeah handicapped seasons always has more incidents as drivers of different talents tries to occupy the same segment of road.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 10:48:52 AM


As a separate issue:
I don't know who was doing the speaking on Teamspeak, but could you please keep your indignance and outrage for after the race, and do it here; or don't push your button and make your significant other listen to it. I know it's frustrating, but I'm not interested in hearing it during the race. I'm trying not to hit people, avoid accidents, and drive as fast as my slow arse can manage.
Cheers

If you mean me raging, Sorry, I very rarely speak during a race, it takes a decent grievance for me to speak up , but if it needs saying I will say it
I am sorry you cannot concentrate with some background noise, I have music blaring during a race and forgot not everyone does that
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on September 14, 2017, 12:07:51 PM


As a separate issue:
I don't know who was doing the speaking on Teamspeak, but could you please keep your indignance and outrage for after the race, and do it here; or don't push your button and make your significant other listen to it. I know it's frustrating, but I'm not interested in hearing it during the race. I'm trying not to hit people, avoid accidents, and drive as fast as my slow arse can manage.
Cheers

If you mean me raging, Sorry, I very rarely speak during a race, it takes a decent grievance for me to speak up , but if it needs saying I will say it
I am sorry you cannot concentrate with some background noise, I have music blaring during a race and forgot not everyone does that

I agree with doobs here, and it wasn't you Phil; you waited till after the race. It was very early on. Not sure who it was as was a voice I didn't recognize. It sets up a negative atmosphere for the whole race.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on September 14, 2017, 12:11:49 PM
(edit) and a big shout-out to my teammate for reintroducing the "Malachi Crunch" on Dave O I think it was, at turn one. Had I known I would have given up that corner. That could have been some really good racing. I lost a little bit of traction coming through the last corner and Dave had a little bit of speed on me down the straight and was along side into turn one sequence. I wanted to hold position because I would had had the inside line through the second part of the sweeping S's. Fast chicane really. I didn't see that Bacchulum had a run on DaveO on the inside of him into the first part of the turn and we went in three wide. Because I'd compromised DaveO's line he couldn't really couldn't give Bacchulum the little bit of room he needed, and we came together in the famous "Malachi Crunch". Unfortunately it had the same effect on me as was suffered by the Malachi's when trying to finish Pinky Tuscadero. I went off and lost enough time that I couldn't get back in touch with them. Both were too fast for me anyway and it was fun racing. I thought it was hilarious, but I'm a bit special.
Now I remember that.
I wasn't aware you were still on the outside. :(
And after the incident I remembered DaveO doesn't have helicorsa, due to the Rift. :-[
(or have they sorted that out Dave?)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on September 14, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
Believe Helicorsa works with VR, it's just you can't force the virtual mirror on.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Dave O on September 14, 2017, 01:14:55 PM
Helicorsa does work in VR.. but I was pretty busy keeping an eye out for Doobs trying to make sure we both had some room

heading into the corner, didn't see Bachullum until the crunch  :o  Not a real good night for me, had an incident in race 1 as well but

that's racing  ;D Had some great battles early on though. Dave O.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 01:45:59 PM


As a separate issue:
I don't know who was doing the speaking on Teamspeak, but could you please keep your indignance and outrage for after the race, and do it here; or don't push your button and make your significant other listen to it. I know it's frustrating, but I'm not interested in hearing it during the race. I'm trying not to hit people, avoid accidents, and drive as fast as my slow arse can manage.
Cheers


ok i missed it then

If you mean me raging, Sorry, I very rarely speak during a race, it takes a decent grievance for me to speak up , but if it needs saying I will say it
I am sorry you cannot concentrate with some background noise, I have music blaring during a race and forgot not everyone does that

I agree with doobs here, and it wasn't you Phil; you waited till after the race. It was very early on. Not sure who it was as was a voice I didn't recognize. It sets up a negative atmosphere for the whole race.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on September 14, 2017, 02:40:41 PM


As a separate issue:
I don't know who was doing the speaking on Teamspeak, but could you please keep your indignance and outrage for after the race, and do it here; or don't push your button and make your significant other listen to it. I know it's frustrating, but I'm not interested in hearing it during the race. I'm trying not to hit people, avoid accidents, and drive as fast as my slow arse can manage.
Cheers

If you mean me raging, Sorry, I very rarely speak during a race, it takes a decent grievance for me to speak up , but if it needs saying I will say it
I am sorry you cannot concentrate with some background noise, I have music blaring during a race and forgot not everyone does that

I agree with doobs here, and it wasn't you Phil; you waited till after the race. It was very early on. Not sure who it was as was a voice I didn't recognize. It sets up a negative atmosphere for the whole race.

Sorry Phil, I meant during the race.
What Joe said.

Bacchulum and Dave O, It was a series of unfortunate events and I thought it was all great racing.....up to the point my teammate cannon punted me.  LOL
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on September 14, 2017, 02:52:15 PM
I'm more concerned with Phil's quoting technique. :o :o
 :P
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
it takes skill :)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: doobs on September 14, 2017, 04:03:29 PM
I'm more concerned with Phil's quoting technique. :o :o
 :P

I'm not saying anything, mine ain't real flash neither.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 14, 2017, 05:18:04 PM
The replay issue got me too, I have only race 2. I had a good night, thanks to all.
With the least amount of restriction I was kinda fast and was thinking about the restrictor regulation. Maybe, to keep the field closer particularly over the longer races we could decrease the range of restriction, say between 15 to 85 or something. That way also, the difference in speed of the cars is not as dramatic. Not trying to change the rules or anything, especially at this stage of the season, but just making the suggestion for future seasons if any of you think it might work.
Race 1 not the best start after snagging pole at the last second, then ran wide at double apex. Lost a couple of spots which I managed to get back. Tried to hunt down first but too far back.
Race 2 got a blazing start, at least it felt like it and seemed I just had to keep it tidy and stay on track. The tidy part, well that's just not me lol. Trying to manage tyres while looking at rear view allowed Mael to gain on me. A few minor mistakes but nothing drastic.
During race 1 near the back hairpin I was side-by-side with someone (Phil?) we rubbed door panels, they ran wide and spun I think. Sorry if I was part of that but I was in the middle of a three wide situation and I had nowhere to go.
Thanks to everyone making it fun and the guys who run these adrenalin sessions.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 14, 2017, 07:45:45 PM
With the least amount of restriction I was kinda fast and was thinking about the restrictor regulation. Maybe, to keep the field closer particularly over the longer races we could decrease the range of restriction, say between 15 to 85 or something. That way also, the difference in speed of the cars is not as dramatic. Not trying to change the rules or anything, especially at this stage of the season, but just making the suggestion for future seasons if any of you think it might work.
Although when you look at it, Phil on 100% restrictor was still managing a 1:56.9, which was still faster than a lot of other people's best laps.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on September 14, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
Seems like nobody is able to post the replay for Race 1???

I'm not claiming innocence here, but I cannot remember anything about the incidents that I have been penalised for. I would just like to be able to see the footage.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 09:38:28 PM

Uploading now. Not sure if its the right one as I never save or watch replays or shared one before hehe had to google where to find it lol  :-[, but it says its called AC_120917-210742_R_ks_ford_escort_mk1_ks_vallelunga_extended_circuit_osrw so I think its the right one
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on September 14, 2017, 09:42:07 PM
Thanks mate  ;D
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
Race 1 one drive link
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsrTwqxQ1H9ag75AqTfLzG74HP8Ubw
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on September 14, 2017, 10:46:48 PM
Yep, that's it. Thanks Phil.

I can confirm that I bumped Phil off the track. I do remember the incident, but I had no idea it was Phil or that I was in the wrong at the time, hence my confusion.
I could say a lot about this incident, but I won't .... except ...
At the time I had no idea what car was near me and watching from my driving view I couldn't even see Phil's car (even with my triple screens). For some reason Phil's car also didn't show up on Helicorsa (in the replay, so I assume it was the same live) where the other cars around me did. I was trying to take particular care with the cars I could see at the time. I notice on the replay that my car showed in Helicorsa for Phil, but his car didn't show for me ???

Anyway, I had some good racing which is the main thing :)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 14, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
Cant help but bump doors in these sometimes
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on September 14, 2017, 11:31:22 PM
Race 1 one drive link
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsrTwqxQ1H9ag75AqTfLzG74HP8Ubw
Well I watched the video and yes there was a small touch so I suppose I have to take a penalty.
Then of course if he Phil8 had caught the slide then there probably wouldn't have been a penalty . . . so do we blame him! :) :)
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on September 15, 2017, 08:06:28 AM
Yep, that's it. Thanks Phil.

I can confirm that I bumped Phil off the track. I do remember the incident, but I had no idea it was Phil or that I was in the wrong at the time, hence my confusion.
I could say a lot about this incident, but I won't .... except ...
At the time I had no idea what car was near me and watching from my driving view I couldn't even see Phil's car (even with my triple screens). For some reason Phil's car also didn't show up on Helicorsa (in the replay, so I assume it was the same live) where the other cars around me did. I was trying to take particular care with the cars I could see at the time. I notice on the replay that my car showed in Helicorsa for Phil, but his car didn't show for me ???

Anyway, I had some good racing which is the main thing :)
The way I saw it Russ was that first bump told you a car was there beside you. Combined with the presumed use of Helicorsa, I thought you didn't have enough awareness of where the other car would be, and you only got the penalty because the second bump sent Phil right off the track.
Title: Re: S18R5: Vallelunga Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on September 15, 2017, 10:34:04 AM
if helicorsa is playing up try http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/car-radar.15743/,  I prefer it because it has more options, shows the angle of the car approaching and isn't on as often as helicorsa when following a car,  others dont like as much but it does the same job as helicorsa, just personal preference.

If folks prefer a voice saying car left or whatever there is always crewchief
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/crew-chief-for-assetto-corsa.36440/
http://crewchief.isnais.de/CrewChiefV4.msi,, i like it for all the other stuff it can tell you also, all options can be on or off so you don't have tons of chatter per lap
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