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Title: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 09, 2015, 10:28:55 PM
Back to one of the best fantasy, scratch built tracks. Should be good racing in the beemers :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 09, 2015, 10:57:49 PM
I love this track!  I'd almost forgotten about it.  Good selection.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 10, 2015, 12:24:24 AM
Give the Alien his favourite track well done guys, I hope it rains next week as tennis is back on after the Easter brake. Been some fun racing in these cars even if they arent exactly the most fun to drive you can race door to door with others fairly easily in them.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 11, 2015, 08:03:48 AM
More importantly, I can't find the skin template folder for the M235i. Does it go by another name as well???
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Grubbet on April 13, 2015, 09:11:48 PM
More importantly, I can't find the skin template folder for the M235i. Does it go by another name as well???

I found this for you:
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/templates-for-all-10-dream-pack-cars-ruf-yellowbird.22378/
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 13, 2015, 09:59:25 PM
More importantly, I can't find the skin template folder for the M235i. Does it go by another name as well???

I found this for you:
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/templates-for-all-10-dream-pack-cars-ruf-yellowbird.22378/

Excellent!! Thanks Grubbsie!! Haven't tried em yet. have you? Looks like they'll be fine though. Marty will have his My Little Pony skins soon! so he can stop sending me disturbing, threatening mail.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 13, 2015, 10:25:35 PM
Can you please skin an F40 with Hello Kitty?  It would make a beautiful car look even better.

Your HK cars are my trademark you know!
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 13, 2015, 11:06:10 PM
Can you please skin an F40 with Hello Kitty?  It would make a beautiful car look even better.

Your HK cars are my trademark you know!


Looking through my photobucket now....
I thought I did a F40 HK.. plenty of hot-wheels though.. I've still got all these skins. They should still work. Or if not, Marty's fault.
I will get a HK one done though Guybrush!

If anyone want's a F40 skin?   I'll have to remember how to zip again  :o
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/hotwheelsvar001.jpg)

I've got plenty of HK 458's from the XGN v's rest of the world challenge... or whatever it was.

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_ferrari_458_gt2_nurburgring-sprint_5-11-2014-17-37-46.jpg)

I've got plenty more... Non Hello Kitty skins. But they seem totally pointless and depressing and I just don't get why the racing community hasn't caught on.
Like these:
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Showroom_shelby_cobra_sc_10-10-2014-6-4-55.jpg)
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_shelby_cobra_427sc_spa_18-10-2014-7-33-49.jpg)
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_mercedes_sls_gt3_spa_18-10-2014-15-19-51.jpg)

Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 14, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
I'd take the bottom left hotwheels slom - but everyone needs to d/l the skin and that's unlikely to happen halfway into the season...or is it?
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 14, 2015, 01:41:32 PM
I'd take the bottom left hotwheels slom - but everyone needs to d/l the skin and that's unlikely to happen halfway into the season...or is it?

It's never too late for a dick skin!

You're right though, at the ends of the day no one has to install skins if they don't want to And the season is getting late.
These are ones I've done already so no big deal.
I'll do some more for up coming seasons
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: eazycompany on April 15, 2015, 10:37:11 PM
evenin chaps, Im getting up to speed on this track, never raced it before, love it!
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 16, 2015, 06:52:32 AM
Yeah I wished the guy who did it would create another.  It was pretty much spot on from first release and it came out of nowhere.  I think that is part of the allure, as well as all the high speed corners and flow of it :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 08:07:51 AM
I think it's appeal is that it feels like a real life track even though it is a fantasy track.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 16, 2015, 09:36:36 AM
It's never too late for a dick skin!

Sounds like you have a pickled jar to snack on from your local Rabbi.  :D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: eazycompany on April 16, 2015, 10:51:10 AM
The track has an excellent rhythm, each corner sets you up for the next and when you are going fast it just feel like it pulls you along. The only corner that breaks that is the dogleg thing before the start finish line, its hard to feel neat through there and fast. 
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 12:44:21 PM
I don't care if the hospital burns down, all the toilets block, all the lights go out and the ACs stop working. I'm going home early.
pretty much giving the rest of this week's earnings to the tax man. I hate that guy.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 16, 2015, 01:08:11 PM
I'd take the bottom left hotwheels slom - but everyone needs to d/l the skin and that's unlikely to happen halfway into the season...or is it?

Other problem is the server is being run as non booked password so skins are random as you join. Only way to assign a skin is by prebooking the server, also admin needs to fiddle with all guid's then reset server if someone wants to enter late. Not sure if Gratulin is up for that and I am doing a rain dance to try and get a washout at tennis so I can join the race. Been fun in these cars so far shame its on a nite a cant make most weeks.
Title: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 01:13:31 PM
I'd like to experiment with a new rule for tonight's racing. Similar to the V8Supercars where they must give driving room. Hopefully this will improve overtaking and reduce accidents.

Rule: The lead car must allow sufficient room for the following car when that car is attempting to overtake. The following car does not require "overlap" in order to expect to be left sufficient driving room. Driving room is defined as sufficient space for the following car to overtake (if it can) while keeping 2 wheels within the track limits.
In order to stop "dive bombing" the following car must also allow driving room for the lead car especially on corner exit.
This rule will not be enforced since Thursday's are for fun. However, keeping this rule in mind will possible increase the overtaking opportunities and therefore the fun factor.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
I'd like to experiment with a new rule for tonight's racing. Similar to the V8Supercars where they must give driving room. Hopefully this will improve overtaking and reduce accidents.


Are you are talking about Australian V8 supercars Gratulin?? I don't think that rule is real!! lol I have never seen ANY V8 supercar give a millimeter of track. It's what makes them worth watching.

A V8 supercar that finishes a race with both wing mirrors and straight panels has been parked in the pits whole race.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 16, 2015, 01:23:20 PM
Ooooh...trusting the guy in front to give you room in the corner for an overtake, now that's what I call real trust! :)

I'd really leave it up with "any overlap", because that can easily be checked with the (now installed and magnificent) helicorsa.  I really wish I had this earlier.  I thought I didn't need it, but it's just great.

Defining it as you do, leaves a lot to interpretation..."oh sure I've left enough room for 2 wheels in that corner..."  ;)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 01:32:21 PM
"Any overlap" is a good idea especially if everyone is using Helicorsa as the indicator.

Driving room is more difficult to define I know - perhaps just leave it as "a car width including mirrors" :)

Dick, V8 are aggressive and do bump and crash a lot but they do leave room and are penalized if they shut the door on an overtaking car.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 01:53:02 PM
"Any overlap" is a good idea especially if everyone is using Helicorsa as the indicator.

Driving room is more difficult to define I know - perhaps just leave it as "a car width including mirrors" :)

Dick, V8 are aggressive and do bump and crash a lot but they do leave room and are penalized if they shut the door on an overtaking car.

Very agressive and also very smart. They get 3 chances before a drive through. so that means they can get away with it twice.
Especially cutting curbs. If you don't get 2 strikes against you in a race you're not playing the rules to your advantage.

I'll have to check out the helli app. So I know when to dive in front of Marty.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 16, 2015, 01:59:58 PM
I'll have to check out the helli app. So I know when to dive in front of Marty.
A friendly warning: I've tried that, it didn't work out well :D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 02:51:43 PM
Applying the brakes immediately after diving in front is the preferred method :))
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 02:58:19 PM
Applying the brakes immediately after diving in front is the preferred method :))

I try this often. I'm usually laughing too hard. Or filled with childish excitement and only wreck my own car.
I can't even crash without choking!
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: eazycompany on April 16, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
I haven't spent a lot of time racing real people, mostly AI over the years, so I tend to be aggressive. We all know that game AI punt you at the slightest touch yet seem unmovable themselves. I've been practicing this during the week so I will be  better behaved this round I promise.

Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 16, 2015, 04:52:47 PM
So you will become even eazier company, from here on? :D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 16, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
Applying the brakes immediately after diving in front is the preferred method :))

I have heard Bird is a big fan of this tactic via TS communications.

Any overlap is a good rule for fun runs the more general rule in v8 is too open to mis interpretation as I think is the b pillar or other such rules. If you see there is overlap just give others racing room which is what I try to do always.

Generally works well but at times you can be borderline and get into someones blindspot. Happened between me and Bird one race, I did give Gratulin a good look at the side of my car last round but he let the golden opportunity slide bye.

Especially the reverse grid races Ive spent quite a lot of time side by side with others. It does slow the pace a little but good fun.

At gentrack the tricky thing is getting inside on most of those early corners you also would need to slow quite a bit if you need to leave room for another car inside or out and this is what catches most out. Its not just leaving the room on entry but making sure you leave space all through the corner.

Ive used helicorsa a bit the last week and the best thing is I can close the door a bit more when I know Im clear. Before I tended to give touch room but with this app I just give as much as I need and not much more.  ;)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 16, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
At what point do you decide you have to leave racing room though? It would surely only be once the following car is far enough up the inside, i.e. up to the B pillar?
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
At what point do you decide you have to leave racing room though? It would surely only be once the following car is far enough up the inside, i.e. up to the B pillar?
The experiment I was (am?) suggesting is to try modifying the rule to make it easier for the following car to overtake. Therefore, rather than B-pillar we could try any overlap as per helicorsa. Also, make the lead car aware that they are also responsible for not cutting across the following car too much.

This is just for the fun run. We are having some excellent side-by-side racing at the moment so thought it was worthwhile encouraging that a bit further.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 06:26:05 PM
Also, SERVER IS UP!!!

**** 15 LAPS ****

**** Server Name = AUS XGN Thursday FunRun www.xgn.com.au ****

**** Track download http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=853.0 ****
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 16, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
Got a forfeit at tennis so will be there, I dont know if I have the track installed so hope the rd download isnt going to take forever as Im still 15 min from home.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 16, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
OK, we'll see you soon.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 16, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
Round 3 Results (http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=899.0)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
Got a forfeit at tennis so will be there, I dont know if I have the track installed so hope the rd download isnt going to take forever as Im still 15 min from home.

Hope you can make it time.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 16, 2015, 10:35:18 PM
I notice the results are up... I hope they are only provisional.

I have at least 5 protests still in the hands of race officials.  :P
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 17, 2015, 12:12:35 AM
I notice the results are up... I hope they are only provisional.

I have at least 5 protests still in the hands of race officials.  :P

Yea take major points of you in race one for hitting me, then maybe give you back a few more for every other race that may have been slight contact that was only 99% your fault on all other occasions. Pretty sure the one where you cut straight across the track into my path was uncalled for. It may have happened a little differently as I was slightly concussed after the repeated incidents with your car.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 17, 2015, 07:33:19 AM
The reverse grid races were fun. Sorry about squeezing you off the track in one of them Guybrush, when I moved to the right after catching up to someone. I should have seen in Helicorsa that you were there.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on April 17, 2015, 08:28:03 AM
Another top night with the Beemers!! Race 2 was a most excellent race, great finish with GB n Grubbet!! Race 3 was going to be excellent till I shuffled in front of Grubbet (sorry dooode!) and we got a nasty little lag spike that killed us both...  >:(
Gotta love the tight racing in these beasties!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 17, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
I had a fun night.. except for the racing.
no really was great to be back with you mob. Even if Marty doesn't play fair.

Big grats to Grubbers! I'm wondering how the pressure was??
  I didn't even last a lap ( Race 3 or 4) when I was leading everyone around. I choked and hit that damn bus stop wall.

Had a few laps with Dave-o Then there was this bloody big white BMW parked across the start finish line. Seemed out of place, quite sure it wasn't meant to be there. Had nowhere to go, forced to hit it. Hard.

I notice the results are up... I hope they are only provisional.

I have at least 5 protests still in the hands of race officials.  :P

Yea take major points of you in race one for hitting me, then maybe give you back a few more for every other race that may have been slight contact that was only 99% your fault on all other occasions. Pretty sure the one where you cut straight across the track into my path was uncalled for. It may have happened a little differently as I was slightly concussed after the repeated incidents with your car.

This is not how the report went in to race officials. 100% of blame is on your sholders Marty! can't be on mine as they are both dislocated.
 I certainly do not recall 'cutting across the track' This might have been when I was unconscious and burning to death strapped into my seat and the car was still coming to rest.

I do recall, more than once, your car parked. handbrake on. In the middle of the racing line. I even recall you trying to do a three point turn to get around the hairpin.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 17, 2015, 08:51:31 AM
This was AWESOME!

Great night, great fun.  Sorry everyone for shunting you guys, I need to learn to curb my enthusiasm somehow.  Those rear-ends are just stupid.
At least helicorsa helps with the side ones now.   Btw Wally you squeezed me out of the track into T1 as well.  Check your spotters! :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on April 17, 2015, 09:15:16 AM
Has to be one of our best combos for fun racing yet. The Beemers are built to be easy to race - so balanced and easy one-the-limit control. Gentrack1 is a work of art - not just the track layout but the quality of the build makes it a pleasure to race on.

Here's the overall lap time statistics for the Beemer at Gentrack1 - Lapstats (http://54.153.131.224:8080/lapstat)

I noticed that most people were running ptracker which is indicated by a 'Yes' in the 'Valid' column.

Those who run ptracker and want to get sector times to show you need to run at least one lap in single player mode for the car track combo. This is a bug in AC not ptracker.

It would be great to see sector times for the top 5 guys - Guybrush, Bird, Stan, Wally and Marty - to see where that 1s is gained between Marty and GB!! I basically lose the same amount in each sector to the lead guys so no quick fixes for me to gain time  >:(

And thanks to Guybrush for sharing his setup via ptracker. I know that he was risking ALL by giving Bird access to that setup so the sacrifice was appreciated. Setup didn't help me at all however  8)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 17, 2015, 09:27:42 AM
Great results for race 2, a close finish for Guy, Grubbet and Stan Dam! Nice work boys...
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 17, 2015, 09:38:11 AM
Great results for race 2, a close finish for Guy, Grubbet and Stan Dam! Nice work boys...

Mr Flattop. I can't help but notice you are on-line. All be it in some strange land. You could easily be racing with us. Just use your keyboard. That's what I use most of the time.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: eazycompany on April 17, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
That was great fun, I found myself racing between packs most races which is probably for the best, I am still finding my feet among traffic. Very happy with my 5th place finish in race one without any incidents to racers around me during the start.

After having guy put shit on me on TS without the ability to reply, I couldn't take it anymore so I bought the iPhone app so now I can defend myself.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on April 17, 2015, 11:01:54 AM
After having guy put shit on me on TS without the ability to reply, I couldn't take it anymore so I bought the iPhone app so now I can defend myself.
GB's marketing campaign to get peeps onto TS
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 17, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
At least you hear what I say about you Eazy.  Guys like Wobblyone who aren't/weren't on TS don't even know about all the terrible things I say about them to everyone else on TS.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on April 17, 2015, 01:40:26 PM
Great results for race 2, a close finish for Guy, Grubbet and Stan Dam! Nice work boys...

Mr Flattop. I can't help but notice you are on-line. All be it in some strange land. You could easily be racing with us. Just use your keyboard. That's what I use most of the time.

haha thanks for the invitation Dick, but you have forgotten how bad I am with a steering wheel, as you wouldn't suggest I use a keyboard  ;D
(plus I am MAC powered here)
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: eazycompany on April 17, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
At least you hear what I say about you Eazy.  Guys like Wobblyone who aren't/weren't on TS don't even know about all the terrible things I say about them to everyone else on TS.

You cost me $6.49 on the app store! No I am not going around to Matry's place to give him a massage.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 17, 2015, 03:58:51 PM
At least you hear what I say about you Eazy.  Guys like Wobblyone who aren't/weren't on TS don't even know about all the terrible things I say about them to everyone else on TS.

You cost me $6.49 on the app store! No I am not going around to Matry's place to give him a massage.

Marty is going to be very upset. Made a trip into Melbourne just for the massage....
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: marty on April 17, 2015, 06:40:30 PM
At least you hear what I say about you Eazy.  Guys like Wobblyone who aren't/weren't on TS don't even know about all the terrible things I say about them to everyone else on TS.

You cost me $6.49 on the app store! No I am not going around to Matry's place to give him a massage.

You may need to change your screen name as Guybrush was taking it a bit too literally it seems.
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 17, 2015, 06:53:05 PM
Thanks Mary-Ann:

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/201590000/201599216.JPG
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 17, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
Thanks Mary-Ann:

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/201590000/201599216.JPG

Geez, He sent you that?? He looks so girly, yet sounds like a bloke on TS
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Bird on April 17, 2015, 09:33:39 PM
Thanks Mary-Ann:

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/201590000/201599216.JPG

Geez, He sent you that?? He looks so girly, yet sounds like a bloke on TS
Hell, after this I'll do him next time in the back of the paddock! :D
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on April 18, 2015, 08:30:42 AM
...
(plus I am MAC powered here)

I'm sorry to hear of this terrible news. I hope you can get it sorted out soon....
Title: Re: Season 4 Round 3 - Gentrack1 - Race Chat
Post by: Wobblyone on April 19, 2015, 01:01:31 AM
At least you hear what I say about you Eazy.  Guys like Wobblyone who aren't/weren't on TS don't even know about all the terrible things I say about them to everyone else on TS.

Safest place to be one thinks...hear no evil see no evil ;)
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