[Rolz]

Monza - it's too fast and too tight for me, don't enjoy it... especially with that many cars on this track...

R1 - got wiped out first chicane, had to pit and then I was chasing last place
R2 - tail got clipped after the first 2 chicanes... then crashed later because aero was shagged, had to go to pits and again chasing last place.

Are we only doing ballast off Qualifying again? The only reason I hung around on those races was my times were shit in the race and I would get a ballast advantage next round... Should have just bailed out and installed all my new kit for my setup...

Too confusing for me...

[Gratulin]

Adding to my woes I seem to have caught something from Guybrush

I'm off the the chemist to buy some cream for my potency-o-metre........

[StanDaam]

Well well!! What a most delicious night of racings for the StanDaams!!. At one of his most favourite tracks, the Monza!!!
Had some good pace last night, with not too much ballast 

Race 1: The turn 1 incident. Well worth watching the replay after the race!!. At the time I thought I had hit Jeremy (which I did but I was at the end of a chain reaction) so I was feeling bad for him (he had more damage than I did). Thankfully he got going again pretty quickly and after my readdress, I was sitting in about 6th or so but with a lot less damage than those in front of me. Worked my way to the front (go Stan go!!) and after getting into the lead (hard luck Will, you had it in the bag!!  ), I was very close to letting Jeremy come through and take the win because I still felt bad for him... but I didn't  and got the win!!!

Race 2: Had a great battle with Bacchulum for virtually the whole race. He passed me early on and got away from me. Freezer and Will had troubles after the pitstop which left me slowly hunting down Bacchulum for the win. We entered the parabolica on the last lap dead level, my balls shrank just a smidge which mean't that he came out in-front. I nearly got to him but he just beat me over the line. Good stuffs!! 

[Wally]

Monza - it's too fast and too tight for me, don't enjoy it... especially with that many cars on this track...

R1 - got wiped out first chicane, had to pit and then I was chasing last place
R2 - tail got clipped after the first 2 chicanes... then crashed later because aero was shagged, had to go to pits and again chasing last place.

Are we only doing ballast off Qualifying again? The only reason I hung around on those races was my times were shit in the race and I would get a ballast advantage next round... Should have just bailed out and installed all my new kit for my setup...

Too confusing for me...

No, fastest time from both qualifying and race combined.

[Rolz]

No, fastest time from both qualifying and race combined.

but ur only listing qualifying times here?

Ballast Changes
Average: 1:39.159

P1: StanDaam (1:37.607, 1.552): 59 -> 97
P2: Jeremy (1:37.979, 1.180): 109 -> 138
P3: Chap111 (1:39.442, -0.283): 2 -> 0
P4: Will (1:38.002, 1.157): 70 -> 98
P5: Simone (1:39.080, 0.079): 22 -> 24
P6: Gratulin (1:40.242, -1.083): 17 -> 0
P7: Freezer (1:38.566, 0.593): 58 -> 72
P8: Matthew111 (1:39.026, 0.133): 150 -> 153
P9: Guybrush Threepwood (1:38.423, 0.736): 172 -> 190
P10: Schmittez (1:40.623, -1.464): 20 -> 0
P11: Grat (1:39.772, -0.613): 113 -> 98
P12: Mael (1:40.682, -1.523): 59 -> 23
P13: Wally (1:39.919, -0.760): 31 -> 13
P14: Grubbet (1:39.159, 0.000): 0 -> 0
P15: Rolz (1:39.348, -0.189): 101 -> 96
P16: Bacchulum (1:38.899, 0.260): 51 -> 57
P17: Phil.8 (1:38.485, 0.674): 93 -> 109
P18: Marty (1:39.243, -0.084): 125 -> 123
P19: christopheraser (1:41.034, -1.875): 20 -> 20


Average: 1:39.357

P1: Bacchulum (1:39.055, 0.302): 57 -> 64
P2: StanDaam (1:38.710, 0.647): 97 -> 113
P3: Will (1:38.723, 0.634): 98 -> 113
P4: Wally (1:39.357, 0.000): 13 -> 13
P5: Jeremy (1:39.198, 0.159): 138 -> 142
P6: Matthew111 (1:39.417, -0.060): 153 -> 152
P7: Grubbet (1:39.909, -0.552): 0 -> 0
P8: Guybrush Threepwood (1:39.706, -0.349): 190 -> 182
P9: Freezer (1:39.030, 0.327): 72 -> 80
P10: Phil.8 (1:39.408, -0.051): 109 -> 108
P11: Gratulin (1:40.811, -1.454): 0 -> 0
P12: Rolz (1:39.356, 0.001): 96 -> 96
P13: Grat (1:39.706, -0.349): 98 -> 90
P14: Mael (1:40.600, -1.243): 23 -> 0
P15: Simone (1:39.254, 0.103): 24 -> 26
P16: Chap111 (1:38.792, 0.565): 0 -> 0
P17: Marty (2:35.138, -55.781): 123 -> 123

[Phil.8]

I know its not realistic,  but is it worth trying a race with damage off ?

[Wally]

That's fastest of race or qually. It could turn out that fastest laps just happened to be qually laps.

[marty]

but ur only listing qualifying times here?

I guess looking at the amount of contact in the race report everyone was slower in the race then qualy. Shame I had the crash as my plan was to go as slow as possible early to avoid damage and I managed this but then had my other computer issues.

I know its not realistic,  but is it worth trying a race with damage off ?

Damage on should encourage cleaner racing, the amount of time lost with damage is quite high so Im still amazed how many take extra risks with damage when it may end up costing 3 seconds a lap or more.

T1 is quite doable at monza 2 wide but everyone needs to be aware of all around them. Real starts there are also quite regularly carnage but if people hold inside or outside lines when alongside you should be able to manage no contact. Main issue there is if someone hits an inside kerb and this will send them wide and nost likely into another car.

However if one car hits another then the chain reaction can take out most especially in a field where the majority dont like to slow down if they see cars spinning ahead. 

I dont think there needs to be any specific rule or forced single file starts. Everyone should be able to make moves at the starts if they think they can pull it off. Maybe penalties should be harsher for causing collisions early. Along with points penalty maybe add ballast to a car for the next 2 races if they start a t1 or t2 collision.

Really points dont matter all that much but get ballast even in a no ballast season would surely be a more effective way of penalising those causing early collisions.

[Rolz]

That's fastest of race or qually. It could turn out that fastest laps just happened to be qually laps.

This I don't get - earlier in the season quals weren't counted now they are...

I'm over it.

I'm not taking part in next season if we have ballast - I'd rather come last because I suck and there are better drivers than me than understand how this works.

Will I'm at it, count me out for next weeks race

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Wally are you able to have a look at an incident into the first Lesmo on the first lap of Race 2 for me?  I'm fairly sure I wasn't in the wrong.  I was on the outside behind another car and as we both braked into the corner (I braked a little later) the car on the inside braked across my line and hit me off.

I just want to know if it was my fault or not so I know what is permissible, and expected, so as to avoid accidents in the future.

[Mael]

Sorry about T1 bump Christopheraser

Was parked behind you in T1 waiting for the mess to clear. At that point I had not even started to turn into the second part of the chicane so with my 1 pc screen your car was the only one I could see. I think you made a slight move so thought the accident has cleared and started to pull away. Sadly there was still stationary cars in front of you which I only noticed as I turned but by that time it was too late to stop. I apologize for the bump, as backmarker I usually try to not cause the end of other drivers races but this one was my fault.

[Wally]

That's fastest of race or qually. It could turn out that fastest laps just happened to be qually laps.

This I don't get - earlier in the season quals weren't counted now they are...

I'm over it.

I'm not taking part in next season if we have ballast - I'd rather come last because I suck and there are better drivers than me than understand how this works.

Will I'm at it, count me out for next weeks race

It's been this way for the last several rounds.  Nothing's changed.

[Wally]

Wally are you able to have a look at an incident into the first Lesmo on the first lap of Race 2 for me?  I'm fairly sure I wasn't in the wrong.  I was on the outside behind another car and as we both braked into the corner (I braked a little later) the car on the inside braked across my line and hit me off.

I just want to know if it was my fault or not so I know what is permissible, and expected, so as to avoid accidents in the future.

I'll take a look Thursday night.

[Will]

Race 1: The turn 1 incident. Well worth watching the replay after the race!!. At the time I thought I had hit Jeremy (which I did but I was at the end of a chain reaction) so I was feeling bad for him (he had more damage than I did). Thankfully he got going again pretty quickly and after my readdress, I was sitting in about 6th or so but with a lot less damage than those in front of me. Worked my way to the front (go Stan go!!) and after getting into the lead (hard luck Will, you had it in the bag!!  ), I was very close to letting Jeremy come through and take the win because I still felt bad for him... but I didn't  and got the win!!!

I saw you coming about 4 laps away while you were in 3rd or 4th! After the T1 incident my car was oversteering heaps so I was a little off pace. That lap I spun out I tried to pick up speed because you'd gained so much but lost time in the process. Was looking forward to having a battle with you! Ah well

Maybe penalties should be harsher for causing collisions early. Along with points penalty maybe add ballast to a car for the next 2 races if they start a t1 or t2 collision.

I'd be fine with this...

[Simone]

Perfect starts.perfect races,until freezer cut off the road in front of me at 3 laps to go and towards a precious 5th spot,,,,,

Freezer i have a question,did you hear me on TS?

Good fun though,but i wish some drivers would be a bit more alert on the track.


freezer!!!   did you hear me on TS?