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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on May 26, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
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Race Results (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2015/05/s7r1-mclarenferrari-at-silverstone.html)
Season Standings (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/season-7-standings.html)
Penalties
Race 1 - Wally (-4) for moving sideways into Jeremy (+4) at T2.
Round Points
Matthew111 73
Rolz 66
Ysu 65
Steve Xland 62
Jeremy 57
Perch 54
Bafs17 51
Wally 47
StanDaam 45
Vipergod 44
Rob 41
Bacchulum 38
Krahl 35
UnFknBLievable 33
christopheraser 30
Freezer 30
Shameless 30
Simone 30
Joe 27
Wobblyone 5
Congratulations to Matthew111 on the round win and Matthew111 and Ysu on the race wins.
Season Podium
1. Matthew111, 73
2. Rolz, 66
3. Ysu, 65
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Heh. I did NOT expect to come out on top, when my first lap on this combo was pretty much halfway through the quali :)
It was good. Shame about that tangle in the last lap of R1, it'd have been a nice 3rd possy.
Chris, had I waited more turning in towards the corner, as you said on TS, I'd not have made the corner at all. Maybe my line is different to yours, but I have a very shallow entry to make the braking as straight as possible, so where I started turning I was already wide (very wide) compared to my regular entry. I assumed you have started turning - not to mention I did not expect you to force the issue, riding 2cm from my side since you have just run off on the previous corner. And finally I did not notice helicorsa giving me a warning for side overlap.
But then, you showed up red (as I've noticed on the replay) which means some lag has just added to the mess, sadly.
I'm sorry it turned out this way, but no biggie, we're here for fun only, after all.
The 2nd I got really lucky with my quali position, the front row inside ensured I did not have to fight much for the lead. It was a somewhat uneventful run with a happy ending :)
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Race 1 lost a little bit of grip in turn 1 then had a tap from behind from Chris pushing me into Perch but managed to make it around, then suffered with the carnage going on after turn 2, getting tapped by a spinning Freezer, still managing to hold it into turn 3 but then getting hit side on my Wobbly pushing me off the track. Couldn't rejoin the track safely and ended up in last. Think I finished in 12th though which is where I qualified so happy enough with that.
Race 2 got quite a good start, but not sure who was 2 in front was jumping around all over the place and I attempted to avoid them and took somebody out, Perch? Sorry for whatever carnage that caused. Did okay until my pitstop where I either didn't change tyres or accidentally put the road tyres on and had no grip sliding around all over the place in 17th.
One of my kids then started screaming so I had to abandon the race. Happened last Thursday too >:( Kids, who'd have 'em! Well apparently me as I have another one on the way due in November. :o
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Congtatulations...........!!!!! Joe,a new baby coming!!! haahahaa My time has passed,now i am almost a Grand Dad :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Good fun race but too many accident,huge mess at the moment we better improve the imersion ansdrealism ;D ;D ;D
Again i did not qual well at all, very unlucky and please during qual let the driver pass if you just exit the pits...thx!!
Nice sprint race especially battling shameless who finally i passed after few funny laps,also it was not very good to race with the windscreen completely shattered 8).Second race was not very good and starting from the back does not help either,this time i have been lucky because i went through a carnage intact...or.almost >:(
Tried not to get tyres and be a smart ass but it did not pay off that well and if i had not been sent on the grass again i would have,,,,,,,,,,,,,i would have.,,,.... :o :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ;D nothing because i run out of fuel half lap to go,good fun guys!!!!!
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Was pretty happy with the mcalren was a nice car out of the box, obviously with no setup options its just set up the alignment and go lol
Race1: Managed to fit in a solid lap right at the death of qually which i was happy with. Got a clean start and watched the field burn behind me which was a shame lol from there i just kept it clean and drove it home for a nice start to the season with win number 1 :)
Race2: Avoided the lag issue off the line just and slotted in behind wally until he had a moment at turn 6, i thought he was just going to spin wide but then he half managed to keep it and then finally looped it across the front my car and i had no where to go lol nothing we could do to avoid contact there just one of those things. Pressed on but the car was a dog id say 2.5secs slower than it should have been so it was hard to catch people but i managed to get on to the back of rolz before he pitted. I pitted a lap later and decided to take the extra time to fix the damage to get the pace back, the plan worked car was good again and i confidently managed to secure a p2 so not all bad :)
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The race 1 accident was my fault :( On looking at the replay, I moved across to the apex in the second turn instead of holding my line and cut off Jeremy, causing a pileup as our cars just skidded out of control. I'm sorry about that - not a great start.
On lap 2, Wobblyone lost control (I think) and skidded across the grass at T3 and speared into my car, sending me spinning. Windscreen well and truly smashed. I must have copped some serious damage, although the car felt OK, because I qualified with a 1:59.8 but my best race lap was 2:04.1. Regardless, I had some great pack racing with Rob, Unfknblvbl, Freezer and Bacchulum. At the end, there was about 1.2 seconds between 12th and 15th, which shows what a tight finish it was.
The start of race 2 was thrown into chaos by some massive warps from StanDaam, whose car jumped backwards into Jeremy and set of a chain reaction. Apart from that game glitch, the driving at the start was good. However, later in the lap, I lost the rear, which just came slowly around in a slide that I couldn't catch, leaving Matthew111 nowhere to go and causing another accident. Dang. 2 from 2. I'll have to watch the next round.
Before we pitted, I had a great chase with Jeremy, hassling him but not able to pass. I pitted with Perch and Freezer, guessed at the fuel, and just managed to jump them out of the pits. I just scraped home with a whiff of fuel in the tank so my pit refuelling was a lucky guess.
I had an epic chase of Steve Xland to the finish, slowly gaining, but unable to pass, and finished 0.18 seconds behind him.
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The following people need to download version 1.1 of the PLP app from here: http://www.xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=758.0
Steve Xland
Perch
Jeremy
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Qualifed down the back so race one saw me dodging the wreckage of many spins at the start. Unfortunately a few aggressive down shifts saw me pop the engine toward the end and race over.
Race2: Had a great run with Perch who pushed me for many laps until he finally snuck through. I hadn't given much thought to tyres so at the stop I just did fuel and that didn't work out well. I was just inside the top 10 but with the tyres at 88% I was just doing my best to keep it on track and eventually a few slipped by.
Think I need to do some practice for next week...!!
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Well I certainly need to buy a lotto ticket after last night! :P
Q1 - Pretty happy with qualifying, got about 2-3 PB's in a row, but when you're qualifying against ppl that are giving the RSR WR a nudge you know you're in good company. :)
R1 - Good start, eyes open, tuck elbows in and hope to get through the first few corners... heard the mayhem on TS for stuff behind, watched Wally and Jeremy spin away in front of me and slid in the 3rd... stoked... then got passed and dropped to 6th again... was just trying to put in consistent laps and saw Krahl come off, then a few seconds later watched Bird and Christopheraser come off too... slid into 3rd and put in a PB on the last lap to finish pretty chuffed. :P
R2 - Good start again, had to do some more creative manoeuvring around the spins etc - PLP was nice to me as I slowed down and came back on track without being pinged. Pitted early, I think this was a mistake as I almost ran out of fuel... Fortunately I was watching it and when Matt passed me I saw (guessed) Wally/Steve were a bit back so I slowed right down to save fuel... got into the last lap and brought the lap/fuel ratio back up so I could then push a good pace to the finish...
Pits was cool... going into pits early dropped me to 16th coming out of pits and then watching (hoping) positions come back along the race was cool to watch...
These cars definitely are more sensitive to the bumping rubbing compared to the Season 6 cars.
;D
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I was in Tassie and unfrotunatly had a flight back meant to land at 6.30 in Melbourne but had some delays and didnt land til after 8, living over an hour away from the airport I couldnt make it.
Reaults look like some interesting racing so I look forward to the next rounds.
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Tough night for team StanDaam...
Had a lonely race 1 after it settled down, couldn't catch Mathew's pace, came home in 2nd (didn't notice any lag issues in this race).
Race 2... well... massive lag at the start, not sure if it was my machine or ISP. I just changed GFX card recently (had a theory that Heli corsa was causing it towards the end of the race but sounds far fetched). Still to be investigated, sorry for screwing a lot of peoples race, depressing... :(
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Thank you to Wally for the call up to come & race.
I hadn't out any laps in at all here for a while so as soon as I got home from work I jumped online & tried to get a fairly decent setup.
Qual - Went fairly well & out myself on the 3rd row.
Race 1 - Made an average start but was able to stick it in there fairly well.
Somwehere I lost a place or two & so was trying top claw back lost positions. I had made it on to the back of Bafs and although being faster in some places I wasn't able to pass. Was a very tight race & most enjoyable.
Race 2 - I made a great start & found myself in 3rd, right behind Bafs again. This time however I think Bafs had to back off mid corner to avoid the car in front & I tagged his rear end, spinning him around. I stopped & waited for him to pass me & by then we were well down the order - Sorry Again Bafs, we were both looking good at that early stage.
Rejoined in 17th and had to claw my way back through the pack. By the mid way point came around I was in 8th & closing in on a tightly fighting pack of cars. It was lap 7 so I made the decision to pit earlier to see if I could leapfrog them & make up positions. It worked and I had made up 3 places in the process. As the race wore on, Wally was slowly gaining on me and he caught up on the final lap. I Drove safe & covered my lines fairly and was lucky to be handed another position by someone spinning on the final lap. Ended 4th & very happy with that.
I actually Did leave the server in practice to install the V1.1 PLP app so I am unaware as to why it didn't run. I have reinstalled again and will try it online tonight.
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(had a theory that Heli corsa was causing it towards the end of the race but sounds far fetched).
Were you just lagging on your game freezing up completely for a couple of seconds? If the latter then it can be Helicorsa as I had that issue for weeks before figuring out what was causing it.
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Steve, I suppose you've enabled the app in the AC launcher as well as selected it from the edge app menu on track?
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(had a theory that Heli corsa was causing it towards the end of the race but sounds far fetched).
Were you just lagging on your game freezing up completely for a couple of seconds? If the latter then it can be Helicorsa as I had that issue for weeks before figuring out what was causing it.
The game remained fine, but everyone else was jumping so probably not Hela's fault... :(
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These days I close everything except TS and AC... even check Task Manager to see if anything else is running in the background... stupid Acrobat reader auto updater etc...
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Steve, I suppose you've enabled the app in the AC launcher as well as selected it from the edge app menu on track?
Well to be honest iot didn't appear in the edge menu list . I didn't think to look for any enabling in options so I'll check it out a bit further tonight. I know during the race I had run wide a few times each time I was lifting off the throttle to try to keep things honest.
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Just a though on WobblyOne last night.
He's normally a very clean driver, although only having one arm can make him a little 'swervy' from time to time.
However, I believe that the problem last night was more connection based than driver related.
He lives over on Great Barrier Island which may have had some internet issues. Not sure exactly what his connection setup is but I've raced with him for years & he's not one to cause incidents normally.
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Yeah, he's normally been ok. When he hit me, he was just going straight across grass and track, so his connection may have dropped.
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Yeah, he's normally been ok. When he hit me, he was just going straight across grass and track, so his connection may have dropped.
Or making an effort to line you up :P
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I'm still not sure I'm calm enough to post after last nights disgrace.. how many times do members have to be told to take it easy for at least the first few corners before they wake up.. This is more like a public server than League racing.
Yet another start where people don't listen and are trying to push their way through the pack on the first corner..
Attached is a screenshot that shows Rob about to hit UnFknBLievable under brakes from behind in the first corner, sorry Rob but thats a penalty. I thought maybe he then tapped me off, I was mistaken.. both Perch and Joe (red and white ferraris) not paying attention scaping paint, side hit each other and I got tapped off as a result of it. People need to start paying attention and learn some racing etiquette.
I don't know how many times it's been said "you can't win a race in the first corner" yet people are still pushing.. Sprint racing seems to be a major cause of this or so I thought.. but no 15 lap race wasn't much better.
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Hi Steve!! I have no problem with wobblysauce at all.But talking about racing...everybody here have few years of online racing on the shoulders and we know you cant appear in front of another driver during qual,is very annoying,....especially on those long tracks like Silverstone
.....and you do it again next lap,..cmon a bit of skills
Of course is just a game so forgive my whinge,and yes i love doing well because is more fun...thats all,otherwise why showing up?
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Race 1 I was T-boned at Club corner by someone in a blue McLaren, no re-dress.
Had to wait for the whole pack to pass for a safe re-entry.
Race 2 and was caught up after the 2 in front spun and left me nowhere to go.
I don't think it effected my races too much as I'm bloody useless in this car. :-[
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I'm still not sure I'm calm enough to post after last nights disgrace.. how many times do members have to be told to take it easy for at least the first few corners before they wake up.. This is more like a public server than League racing.
Yet another start where people don't listen and are trying to push their way through the pack on the first corner..
Attached is a screenshot that shows Rob about to hit UnFknBLievable under brakes from behind in the first corner, sorry Rob but thats a penalty. I thought maybe he then tapped me off, I was mistaken.. both Perch and Joe (red and white ferraris) not paying attention scaping paint, side hit each other and I got tapped off as a result of it. People need to start paying attention and learn some racing etiquette.
I don't know how many times it's been said "you can't win a race in the first corner" yet people are still pushing.. Sprint racing seems to be a major cause of this or so I thought.. but no 15 lap race wasn't much better.
Is the difference these cars are so much fast than the last season it's catching a few people?
We might get better as we get used to the cars... my own confidence levels took a battering when I was a magnet to Bird one evening... :o
There is the whole - it's only a game, but then I have had my blood boil when I thought I was taken out after the long endure race we had... only to watch it on replay the next day after I had chilled out and saw it was best a "racing incident"
Do we need a stronger penalty system and review board?
Does it take it take away the fun...
Maybe we get a proper discussion on this maybe in a day or two when it's settled down a bit? ;D
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The best thing is just to talk about it. I am not going to review collisions between 24 people over 23 laps. You do the math.
If someone else with lots of experience wants to volunteer to be a post-race scrutineer of reported incidents, then please step up. You will have to look at every reported incident though. It's not a part-time position.
ALWAYS WATCH THE REPLAY BEFORE YOU BLOW A VALVE. Things are usually not as they seem in the cold light of day after the heat of battle.
Yes, these cars are fast. And slippery. And they have different braking distances. Our seasons always improve after the lessons learned from round 1.
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I don't think the cars and "first race of the season" has anything to do with it. It's called common sense and giving enough room to brake and make the first bloody corner of a race! Twice last night at the first corner, both races I got rammed up the ass. It's not hard to give a bit of head room when you have the remaining 7.9 laps to overtake, more so when everybody is so bunched up together.
I get the difference between a racing accident and plain ignorance. A solution? You could try quadrupling the penalty points for the first lap, then default penalty points for the remainder of the race.
As said above, we all have enough race sim experience to know when it's going to get hairy. Use that knowledge and save some of us the drama while keeping the racing clean.
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R1 wheel was not calibrated and had bugger all control
R2 fixed wheel and finished 7th (from dead last 8))
Observation from the back of the pack. I see cars flying past others going in T1 all the time there is NO way you can pull up because of the concertina effect. Passing at T1 is ok if there is space, but as Wally said there are things going on up front that will ripple down the whole field.
if you see someone slowing down its not to let you past its because the whole field is
Just my 2 cents worth
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ALWAYS WATCH THE REPLAY BEFORE YOU BLOW A VALVE. Things are usually not as they seem in the cold light of day after the heat of battle.
This exactly as things arent always as they seem and many times you may see that you are in error when you didnt think so at the time. Main reason I save replays is to see any incidents I have to see if it may have been my fault so that I can learn to not make the same mistakes again. I always try to avoid contact in any session on any lap not just the start of the race, at the race starts its extra critical to give room to anyone with overlap as this is when collisions are most likely. Now if warps are involved with cars around you in close quarters then many incidents will be unavoidable.
Silverstone is a very awkward first section of corners and it zig zags right left right left so at the start of the race you need to be extra aware not to straight line these sections as there are bound to be people beside you so you need to hold your lane unless sure that you are clear. Also its easy for a car to be in a blind-spot so you may need to leave a bit of extra room for other cars that may be alongside. There is nothing wrong with passing people early but if you make a move then you better be able to pull it off clean otherwise suffer the penalty. There is a rule to redress so if you clean someone up the least you can do is wait for them somewhere clearly off line and let them by again before resuming the race. This is your penalty as you have made this person lose that many positions and so if it drops you to the back of the field maybe next time you wont ruin another persons race early too.
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I've just had another look at the race 1 start, from several cars, several angles, slomo. I missed some incidents and penalties at the back of the grid.
I saw that Gratulin ran into the back of Joe, causing him to hit Perch and Perch to hit Shameless in a chain reaction. Shameless was the only driver really disadvantaged, so Gratulin gets a 4 pt penalty and Shameless gets a 4 point bonus.
I also saw that Rob ran into the back of Unfknblvbl, so Rob gets a 4 pt penalty and Unfknblvbl gets a 4 pt bonus.
In race 2, despite StanDaam's warping of several car lengths causing accidents, the race start was clean.
Also, to put this into perspective, this means we had 3 mistakes out of 48 cars going through turns 1 and 2 (over two races).
That is far from a disgrace.
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No one I believe is questioning your job or time you put in Wally.
I did watch the replay but was more focused on Tom than myself as I was helping him. I'm not attempting to single anyone out here either.
I said disgrace because all of us in this season should have enough experience in how to take turn 1 without incident.. I've raced here before and I've run a season here before and have had plenty of race seasons over several games without a single incident in turn 1, even the first entire lap.
I know we all make mistakes, me included, and I know incidents happen every race.. but it's not rocket science to take it slower to the first corner and be in a lower gear than usual around the first corner so you have complete control over braking and acceleration.. It's those that are pushing too hard (regardless of how fast the car is) on cold tyres.. I for one don't enjoy sprint races because I think it promotes it.
I guess I'm just tired trying to do the right thing on the track and paying for it race after race due to others carelessness..
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Accidents happen. Even in Formula 1, let alone a bunch of people having fun in a game.
We all get frustrated at the time, but get over it soon enough. Happens to everyone in every league at some stage or another.
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I agree. Some races go your way and some don't.
For me race 1 went my way. Started mid pack and managed to clear any accidents and settled in to keep Steve from overtaking me. Fortunate in the end because he was faster. Got lucky last lap with a few offs handing me a couple of extra positions by the end of it.
Race 2 unfortunately did not go my way. Had to back off to avoid tapping Bird and got tapped myself by Steve, going from 2nd to 16th I think on lap 1. Kudos to Steve for the redress but it was just a racing incident, so easy come, easy go. Struggled a bit for the rest of the race but happy with the night over all.
Thanks Wally.
Remember to go easy on each other though. Accidents do happen.
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After the somewhat critical comments above regarding first corner incidents/behaviour and then seeing my name given a penalty for hitting Joe I'd like to clear my name a little. I don't really want people thinking I was just barging through.
1. I was NOT trying to overtake anyone. My intention is to stay in my "lane", not overtake in turn 1, and try to survive.
2. I was on the brakes well before Joe started to brake so have no idea why I hit him. Perhaps I locked up or I was travelling at a higher speed when I started to brake.
3. There should not have been the flow-on consequences of the hit on the back of Joe. Shameless should not have been flung off the circuit for the hit he incurred. AC is bad in this area.
4. Shameless had left lots of room on his right to avoid getting hit in corner 1 but that gap was filled by an overtaking car that left no margin for error. My hit on Joe pushed him across but wouldn't have impacted Shameless, I think, without the overtaking car being there.
My race was ruined in Turn 2 anyway and so quit for the night. Getting sick of all the hiccups and anomalies that occur in AC multiplayer.
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Yes Gratulin it was clear from the replay that you were not ”barging” anywhere. Nobody ever said that. You ckearly hit Joe under brakes, not pulling up in time.
To me, the chain of collisions looked realistic, as cars were shuffled to the left in a domino effect.
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Whilst the T1 incidents need to improve a bit the comments re "check the video" are certainly valid.
I had at least two passes on me in tight corners that at the time I thought the passing car had squeezed in and bumped me wide but on checking the replay after it showed they were fair, and just racing incidents.
3 monitors coming next week, so now I will be able to see who is beside me... ;D
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3 monitors coming next week, so now I will be able to see who is beside me... ;D
You wish :D
Only if they're front/side. Or you need such a fov that you might as well drive a single screen.
I know what we need!!!
A circular screen, where you can turn your head around and see it all!
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Exactly right. I want to promote hard but fair racing, and not have people driving like granny going to the shops. The standard of racing is generally excellent across the broader field for the majority of drivers. There will always be incidents in a big field in unfamiliar cars - that's racing. I don't want anyone to get the impression that this is like a public server wreck fest, because that's clearly far from the case. There is lots of excellent racing to be had.
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3 monitors coming next week, so now I will be able to see who is beside me... ;D
You wish :D
Only if they're front/side. Or you need such a fov that you might as well drive a single screen.
I know what we need!!!
A circular screen, where you can turn your head around and see it all!
Thinking of add TrackIR into the mix also.... ;D ;D
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I don't like trackIR, it's very unnatural and unstable.
I've one still in the drawer here...
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I got track IR and is not good for racing,maybe if you are in a combat helicopter cockpit ,,,yes
Few races back bird, wally ,and I had a battle for a few laps while racing and the next day wally in a post asked us if we were using(helicorsa) correct me guys about the name,thx,Anyway of course i am not using 69 monitors or any apps that could help me be aware of my surrounding.Instead i only use a 23 inch monitor,my rear mirrors,the red arrow in the game that tells me when someone is approaching close,and a lots and lots lots of awareness and common sense,this for me is half fun,honestly,i love giving attention on the track at all times,,,,,,,,is it suppose to be like this?
Hey gratulin do not be angry is not worth it,just game along ,accident will happen but as i said earlier,,,,we can improve!!
Lets consider silverstone race history and lets concentrate on nurburg,,,,bloody hell this time i want to qual properly,,,,,,I AM MOTIVATED TO WIN!!!!!!!!! FAAAAAAAAARK!!! :P ::) :P ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)
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,,,,bloody hell this time i want to qual properly,,,,,,I AM MOTIVATED TO WIN!!!!!!!!! FAAAAAAAAARK!!! :P ::) :P ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)
You. Shall. Not. PASS!
(http://i.imgur.com/buk1aAR.jpg)
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I got track IR and is not good for racing,maybe if you are in a combat helicopter cockpit ,,,yes
Few races back bird, wally ,and I had a battle for a few laps while racing and the next day wally in a post asked us if we were using(helicorsa) correct me guys about the name,thx,Anyway of course i am not using 69 monitors or any apps that could help me be aware of my surrounding.Instead i only use a 23 inch monitor,my rear mirrors,the red arrow in the game that tells me when someone is approaching close,and a lots and lots lots of awareness and common sense,this for me is half fun,honestly,i love giving attention on the track at all times,,,,,,,,is it suppose to be like this?
Hey gratulin do not be angry is not worth it,just game along ,accident will happen but as i said earlier,,,,we can improve!!
Lets consider silverstone race history and lets concentrate on nurburg,,,,bloody hell this time i want to qual properly,,,,,,I AM MOTIVATED TO WIN!!!!!!!!! FAAAAAAAAARK!!! :P ::) :P ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)
I thought this was your setup though Simon?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/4nXqkHjKcnCoMsmzDszfUiRtATFeivWFgJzne6QeLY_kJVTYX4NPfZXAvqvu_amtthEWLwFZ6o81p6yzvsBvqa9rTQ7lZN7eIzv4k1EJ0H8DyHTBP0ghQoWTVsQ8HBsFcb1n=w470-h313-nc)
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I also have a TrackIR but no longer use it since I got triples. It makes your view ”wobblier”, unless you really turn down the sensitivity, and often drifts off-centre. It didn't really seem to add a lot. It was much more useful with a single monitor.
If I get it out again, I'd probably only enable the yaw axis (left to right panning) just so I could look a little more left and right.
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Helicorsa is the best.
It remains invisible until there is a car in your vicinity and when it comes on it show exactly how you lineup with the cars around you. This has proven invaluable for me at the start of any race and also while battling hard during the races themselves.
The arrows in-game are ok but Helicorsa takes it to another level.
Also, regarding Wobbly's exiting pitlane in front of qualifiers... give him sh*t about it - beat him up verbally lol. He's a big boy & he can take it.
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I've helicorsa, but twice now I think it gave me a thumbs up when someone was still slightly overlapping my car.
Either that or it's uttely pointless for me to have it on because I can't friggen notice it in the middle of the screen...:D
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+1 to Helicorsa, it's an excellent tool.
Like Bird said, the only failing is that you look on Helicorsa and think 'my rectangle is well in front of the other rectangle' then you move across and realize that your car is actually much larger than the rectangle... but it's still an excellent tool!! :D
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+1 to Helicorsa, it's an excellent tool.
Like Bird said, the only failing is that you look on Helicorsa and think 'my rectangle is well in front of the other rectangle' then you move across and realize that your car is actually much larger than the rectangle... but it's still an excellent tool!! :D
and then of course while your staring at your rectangle you miss the next corner . . . :'(
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I use helicorsa as a fail-safe, but there have been times when it hasn't picked up a car next to me. So I try to use my wits and then use helicorsa for "fine tuning".