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Title: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 07, 2017, 10:17:51 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s15r5-praga-r1-at-red-bull-ring.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/01/season-15-standings.html)

Penalties
Race 1: Bacchulum ran into the back of Seanus at turn 2 and turned him around, 45 kg penalty.
Race 2: Clean opening lap, no penalties.

Round Points
Matthew111    66 (+45 kg)
Joe    63 (+30 kg)
Diehard    59 (+15 kg)
Keith    58
Seanus    54
Phil.8    52 (-45 kg)
Simone    52
Freezer    50
RussG    44
Wally    43
Mael    42
ab156    41
AJ    41
Rob    40
Chap111    40
Bafs17    38
nith    32
Shameless    31
Doobs    30
Grat    26
Bacchulum    26

Congratulations on Matthew111 for the two poles, two wins and the overall round win!

Season Podium
1. Diehard, 238 (Up from 2nd)
2. Matthew111, 221 (up from 6th)
3. Joe, 218 (up from 6th)

Team Podium
1. Krahl Racing (Phil.8 and Joe), 433
1. DA Racing (Grat and Wally), 371
2. KNR Racing (RussG and Keith), 368

 
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Mael on February 07, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
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Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: AJ on February 07, 2017, 10:44:31 PM
Had some fun and a few short lived battles but overall I just had no pace.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 07, 2017, 10:55:44 PM
Two 2nd place finishes makes it my best ever Tuesday round.

R1 the entire race 2 seconds behind Matthew. After my pit stop I was held up a little but still the gap was pretty much consistent. Hoped for a mistake from matthew but there was none.

Race 2 grat got past me early on putting me in 3rd, but after a few laps seemed to spin off on the second to last corner but sounded like a game issue? After that it was very much like race 1 with a consistant 2 second gap behind matthew. I put it a few quick ones at the end closing the gap a little but not enough.

Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on February 07, 2017, 10:57:43 PM
Had pace, but after a rear-ender, had no battles except staying out of the way. :(
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 07, 2017, 11:00:31 PM
Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Yes, a few people are adding fuel in their pit stops (Grat, Doobs, Bafs). Remember, you are not allowed to refuel in the pit stop - you have to carry the full race fuel at the start.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 07, 2017, 11:08:42 PM
Two 2nd place finishes makes it my best ever Tuesday round.

R1 the entire race 2 seconds behind Matthew. After my pit stop I was held up a little but still the gap was pretty much consistent. Hoped for a mistake from matthew but there was none.

Race 2 grat got past me early on putting me in 3rd, but after a few laps seemed to spin off on the second to last corner but sounded like a game issue? After that it was very much like race 1 with a consistant 2 second gap behind matthew. I put it a few quick ones at the end closing the gap a little but not enough.

Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Full race fuel. Race 1 fuel was me re-joinign the server and picking up a random amount of fuel top do a few laps with you guys.

I was pretty quick in race 2, I agree. Surprised myself. Had a tough battle with Matthew---I thought I went past him but there was a touch on the straight and i lost speed. But then a few laps later I stuffed it up (I think) and a few seconds later acs.exe crashed :(
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 07, 2017, 11:09:36 PM
Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Yes, a few people are adding fuel in their pit stops (Grat, Doobs, Bafs). Remember, you are not allowed to refuel in the pit stop - you have to carry the full race fuel at the start.
See my explanation above. I never add fuel. If I did else that in that occasion, please let me know, as it means I have a bug somewhere
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 07, 2017, 11:11:05 PM
Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Yes, a few people are adding fuel in their pit stops (Grat, Doobs, Bafs). Remember, you are not allowed to refuel in the pit stop - you have to carry the full race fuel at the start.
See my explanation above. I never add fuel. If I did else that in that occasion, please let me know, as it means I have a bug somewhere
Yes, that must have been when you rejoined.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 07, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Grat, were you running full race fuel? I saw plp say you refueled in race 1, and in race 2 you got past me pretty quick and were lapping much faster than I could with 19 laps of fuel.
Yes, a few people are adding fuel in their pit stops (Grat, Doobs, Bafs). Remember, you are not allowed to refuel in the pit stop - you have to carry the full race fuel at the start.
See my explanation above. I never add fuel. If I did else that in that occasion, please let me know, as it means I have a bug somewhere
Yes, that must have been when you rejoined.
Though it shows it on the wrong lap... I am very confused, Butn yes: 19 litres was what I picked when rejoined. I am pretty sure.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 07, 2017, 11:33:43 PM
Not a great night for me. In race 1, I tagged the rear of Phil's car on the final turn on an early lap, not allowing for his slower corner with his success ballast. That turned him around, and I pulled off the track with him to redress, but we both had to wait for pretty much the entire field to pass before we could rejoin. After that I was in a lot of traffic, around Chap and AJ, and while it was fun, I felt like it was holding me up, so I pitted earlier than planned and chucked on some mediums to last to the end. After Phil came out of his stop, I was right behind him again, and chased him to the end to finish 10th.

I thought race 2 would be better, but I was wrong. The start was excellent - I jumped away off the line and gained a spot or two passing Mael before turn 1. I was in a ding dong battle behind the heavier cars of Phil and Diehard, with Freezer in chase. At the end of lap 4, I just lost the rear entering the final corner and looped the car, ending up with the nose in the armco. Again, I had to wait for the field to pass before I could rejoin, and lost 9 places. I had some very good racing again, with AJ and Chap, when on lap 15 I spun it again, all by myself and lost a few more places that I had just fought to gain. I haven't been spinning the car much at all in the earlier rounds, so this was a bit weird, but I had made a few car setup changes which might have unsettled the balance a little.

Bad luck on your game crashes, Grat - not a great round for the team.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Seanus on February 07, 2017, 11:41:06 PM
..I was in a ding dong battle behind the heavier cars of Phil and Diehard, with Freezer in chase....

 :) I guess I was invisible. Perhaps explaining why you ran over my nose before the second to last corner?  :'(
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: keithsgillan on February 08, 2017, 12:05:15 AM
Spending a little time creating a setup offline and laying down some practice laps (more than the 5 minutes worth I usually get) I was hoping to be somewhat competitive tonight.

Although it was my best ever Qualifying result it was a little disappointing as I knew I had some more pace to boot and was hoping to slip in at least a couple of high 1:33's,

Race 1: P6 on the starting grid. Launched well and passed Phil.8 up the straight. With Grat spinning in the penultimate corner, losing my rythm, I was a little cautious into the final turn. Phil.8 and Wally came together spinning relieving me of some pressure. Mael came up for a challenge on Lap 3 which was short lived as he soldiered on. I was pretty settled in 4th place after that and found myself just circulating for a while. Then Diehard started looming up behind me but I felt I was doing enough to retain the position. Then on lap 12 I noticed I was losing pace, my accelerator pedal was malfunctioning and would only allow up to 90-95% throttle (maximum). Lap 13 I watched Diehard drive off into the distance and knew consistency was key to mitigating any further loses. Three laps to go Seanus came up on me and mounted an attacked, which I retained the position by firing it down the inside into turn 2. The last three laps I was committed to holding back Seanus and engaged some defensive driving. The only safe area was around the bends but I managed to fend him off for 5th place.

Race 2: P5 on the grid. With a decent jump off the line again it looked like Phil.8, Grat, and I were going to go through turn 1 three wide. I thought better of it and pulled out. Approaching turn 3 I was side by side with Phil.8 and we both out-braked ourselves, but I came off better taking fourth position. I caught up to the lead pack quickly but realised I was unable to execute any passes as I did not possess the pace. Having two cut tracks already from turn 1 offs in consecutive laps I dialled it back and settled in a comfort zone, not to close to the cars in front, not to close to the cars behind.

Phil.8 and Diehard started closing the gap when Phil.8 pitted. Diehard entered the pits the following lap, then I entered lap after that. Trying to minimise time in the pit I approached pit lane flat out, only to be almost put into the guard rail when the pit limiter kicked in. I was full opposite lock and ended up losing some valuable time. During the pit I unplugged and plugged my pedals to ensure there was no repeat of the malfunction in race 1. I rejoined just behind Diehard and Phil.8 scrapping away. I new I would have the fresher tyres come end of the race so I was feeling optimistic. We jostled for position lap after lap until the fresher tyres showed their strength and I started to clear them. Crossed the line with a personal best 3rd place.

Thanks for the racing tonight it was good fun clean racing :)
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Shameless_1 on February 08, 2017, 12:30:42 AM
Still battling physically with the damn weather changes I couldn't concentrate long enough to do much at all other than lap and hope for the best.  I could only manage a 1:36.5 PB.

Race 1 I made up a few spots by turn 1 only to lose them in turn 2 coming around with nowhere to go hitting a stationary car. I had a little battle with rob. But yet again once I pit the race is mostly lapping in la la land..

Race 2 again made up spots off the start and had no pace to really do much. I slid sideways 2nd to last corner and decided not to move for fear of hitting someone only to have doobs t-bone me, I didn't have enough time to warn him. Pitted a lap later, repaired, new tyres. I also for some reason did not have enough fuel by 4-5 laps so I had to do a second pit stop, I figured a splash and dash couldn't hurt me as I was already 3rd last and I lost a position and a lap down because of it with 2 laps to go.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: doobs on February 08, 2017, 12:35:54 AM
I didn't add fuel Wally, I started both races with 37 litres which was 3 or 4 more than I needed if I completed the races on the same lap as the leader.

Tyres only first race.

and in the second race I did a damage stop, and then tyres in the second stop. Pit config had no fuel and the pitstop countdown graphic only showed what I selected in pit config.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 08, 2017, 07:57:45 AM
..I was in a ding dong battle behind the heavier cars of Phil and Diehard, with Freezer in chase....

 :) I guess I was invisible. Perhaps explaining why you ran over my nose before the second to last corner?  :'(
I was going from memory. I took a look at the replay. I didn't see you behind and to the right of me, and I moved to the right to take a look inside Phil for the upcoming corne and touched your nose. Sorry - I should have seen you on helicorsa.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 08, 2017, 08:00:08 AM
I didn't add fuel Wally, I started both races with 37 litres which was 3 or 4 more than I needed if I completed the races on the same lap as the leader.

Tyres only first race.

and in the second race I did a damage stop, and then tyres in the second stop. Pit config had no fuel and the pitstop countdown graphic only showed what I selected in pit config.
Ah,  OK.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Seanus on February 08, 2017, 09:10:34 AM
...Sorry - I should have seen you on helicorsa.

No Worries. :D
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on February 08, 2017, 12:23:44 PM
Not a bad nights racing for me.  I was pretty quick in practice but couldn't quite replicate it in qualy starting 8th.
I had a good chase with Simone for a number of laps before deciding to pit and hopefully jump him which turned out to be the case.
From there I led him for a number of laps before having a wide and letting a couple of cars through so ended up finishing 8th.
In race to I followed Wally until he had his spin which I almost ended up as part of it nicking his front spoiler with my rear left as I squeezed past.  I had a good battle with AB for much of the race.  We swapped spots a number of times until I finally managed to get in front of him and hold it to the end.
I did have a couple of small spins during the race but luckily not costing to much on each occasion.
Well done to Mael in R1 with 3rd, but obviously some bad luck in R2.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Mael on February 08, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
yeah you saved the the round for us Freezer

I did a lot of practice laps and found some pace which lead to a 3rd in Race 1. Race two start was a bit of a disaster, again due to a taller 1st gear but managed to get through the field through spins, pushes and passes. I was gaining on Phil and confident that with his ballast hindering him through turn 1 a pass at turn 2 would be easy. Feeling positive about it all then BLACK.....

Got 3 black screens with small white error message   :'(

Still hoping for that top 3 team finish, just need Grat's PC to keep crashing and Wally to keep crashing into Phil  ;D
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on February 08, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
Race 1: Bacchulum ran into the back of Seanus at turn 2 and turned him around, 45 kg penalty.
Sorry teamie. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 08, 2017, 04:13:10 PM
Still hoping for that top 3 team finish, just need Grat's PC to keep crashing and Wally to keep crashing into Phil  ;D
I learnt my lesson - be aware of who's carrying success ballast. If you can't smell the fertiliser, that is.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on February 08, 2017, 06:07:52 PM
Best i felt in the car as the results suggest but still not 100% confident with the car, luckily this is a track i enjoy lol, was pretty happy to grab both poles with 2 neat laps.
Race1: I have had to put my old graphics card in my pc which has been causing my grief, off the line i had really bad stuttering lucky i was on pole and clear of everyone or it may have been a different story for me lol, all race i had joe on my tail with a gap of about 2 secs so it was on till the last lap pretty good hard no error racing good drive from joe to keep applying the pressure good to see new names up the front challenging for wins :)

Race2: Same story bad stuttering off the line but had nobody next to me so all good, this time i had grat applying the pressure at the start with good pace, the gap was under 1 sec and coming into t1 on lap 4 i think i hit the curb a little dodgey on the exit of t1 giving grat the advantage down the straight but as he passed me it triggered my stuttering so i think i slightly rubbed him on the way past lol, had a nice exchange for the lead for the next 2 corners getting the lead back and then grat had a issue so it was back to managing the 2 sec gap again to joe to the finish :)
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Bafs17 on February 08, 2017, 11:27:36 PM
Not sure what the story is with me refueling Wally. My pitconfig is set to 0 for fuel and couldn't be changed during race 1 anyway. didn't notice it either during pitstop. Both races I started with 37 litres I think. about 21 or 22 laps. Can you shed some light on how much and when? Cheers.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 09, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
Not sure what the story is with me refueling Wally. My pitconfig is set to 0 for fuel and couldn't be changed during race 1 anyway. didn't notice it either during pitstop. Both races I started with 37 litres I think. about 21 or 22 laps. Can you shed some light on how much and when? Cheers.
The race results show in race 2 pitted on lap 12 and added 26 litres. It reports that be comparing your fuel at the start and end of the pit stop. Do you think that's possible? The fuel reporting could be glitched.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 09, 2017, 08:53:43 AM
I noticed a message pop up in one race to say doobs added fuel and he says he didn't so does sound like something funky is going on.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: doobs on February 09, 2017, 02:26:04 PM
I noticed a message pop up in one race to say doobs added fuel and he says he didn't so does sound like something funky is going on.

I definitely didn't add fuel knowingly. Like I said earlier, and same as Bafs, pit config set to 0 on fuel and I didn't see fuel indicated on the pit countdown on either stop in race two. I did make two stops. The first one I changed selection on the fly to fix body damage and suspension. I only saw the spanner countdown. Tyres were already set to 0 change..
And second stop I had tyres only (Medium) with 0 Fuel. I set that on the fly to change tyres (medium). 0 Fuel was already set.

I don't know if changing on the fly could cause false reporting of fuel. Shrug.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on February 09, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
I knew we shouldn't have bought the team's emission control from VW! ::)
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: doobs on February 09, 2017, 02:44:53 PM
I knew we shouldn't have bought the team's emission control from VW! ::)

lol   where's my compensation?
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Bafs17 on February 09, 2017, 10:56:23 PM
For what it's worth Wally, I think that it is a glitch. Even if I did cheat and started 'light' on fuel, adding 26 litres with 7 odd laps to go is a bit daft.
Title: Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Post Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 10, 2017, 07:32:24 AM
For what it's worth Wally, I think that it is a glitch. Even if I did cheat and started 'light' on fuel, adding 26 litres with 7 odd laps to go is a bit daft.
Yeah, it must be a glitch. I looked at the code. It looks so simple, I don't know how it can go wrong.
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