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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on October 25, 2016, 11:50:59 PM
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This is another enduro round, with a single 27 lap race at Silverstone GP.
There are two compulsory pit stops (no pit window), with refuelling allowed.
I'm going to try something a little different with pit stops this round: you must change tyres only in 1 pit stop, and you must refuel only (no tyre change) in the other stop. You can do the fuel and tyre stops in either order.
Fuel rate is 1.7x (which should see you get a maximum of 23 laps on a full tank).
Tyre wear rate is 1.5x (a little lower than usual to give you more choice as to when to change tyres).
You will need to download the OSRW PIT MOD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/sht62uynkd02u1s/Silverstone_all_32pits_AC1.7.rar) and extract it into your assettocorsa folder.
The weather is going to be 14 degrees with light clouds.
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Is there a way to test pitstops using the pit box that will be assigned for this race. At Brands last round I was trying the find my pit box for the first time during the race. Usually it is easy to see your pitbox but this time it was so close to the entry and tucked away that I missed it. Subsequently I lost a lot of time.
I tried running offline and pit box 24 (which I think I had at Brands) is at the front of the pit lane but I don't think this is correct.
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Is there a way to test pitstops using the pit box that will be assigned for this race. At Brands last round I was trying the find my pit box for the first time during the race. Usually it is easy to see your pitbox but this time it was so close to the entry and tucked away that I missed it. Subsequently I lost a lot of time.
I tried running offline and pit box 24 (which I think I had at Brands) is at the front of the pit lane but I don't think this is correct.
Does your pit box in race depend on where you qualify? Or did you find in race 1 that your pit box was where it was initially assigned by the grid position?
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I think it was the same. So I thought I would be ok. It was much closer and to the right than I expected.
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I could give Marty my entry list, but he probably wants to keep the practice server open to all. In race 2, you'd be in a different box anyway (in the sprint rounds).
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I could give Marty my entry list, but he probably wants to keep the practice server open to all. In race 2, you'd be in a different box anyway (in the sprint rounds).
I just took another look at Brands and knowing where to expect the pit box would have helped (ie I should have checked it out!). So I can just drive in and work out where the pit box is during the practice session.
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I could give Marty my entry list, but he probably wants to keep the practice server open to all. In race 2, you'd be in a different box anyway (in the sprint rounds).
If I get your entry list I can add it in and even with the server open to all as long as someone isn't in your car then you will be given your grid spot. I have an entry list atm with all the people that have custom skins at the back so their cars will be last to go so most often they get their own cars. I can easily change this up to the next round list if people want that but it will just mean the guys in early slots will be less likely to get their own car if other public are in.
Still even if grid slot is the same as entry list, though I am not sure if it stays after qualy for race 2 it will likely be a different pit box to the one you had in race one as the entry list will be set in race 1 result order. Having the race one entry list will at least give people an opportunity to see where it will be.
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Aris said he feels track grips should be a bit higher with the V10 tyres: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/porsche-pack-1-comments.38046/page-5#post-774483
I will start the race in the 97 - 99 range instead of 94 - 96.
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wasn't the Maserati already on v10 tyres?
EDIT: I get it, you fear we were running on too slippery track in the past races. Fine with me. Though it was fun to drive on tip-toes on the opening laps.
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I could give Marty my entry list, but he probably wants to keep the practice server open to all. In race 2, you'd be in a different box anyway (in the sprint rounds).
If I get your entry list I can add it in and even with the server open to all as long as someone isn't in your car then you will be given your grid spot. I have an entry list atm with all the people that have custom skins at the back so their cars will be last to go so most often they get their own cars. I can easily change this up to the next round list if people want that but it will just mean the guys in early slots will be less likely to get their own car if other public are in.
Still even if grid slot is the same as entry list, though I am not sure if it stays after qualy for race 2 it will likely be a different pit box to the one you had in race one as the entry list will be set in race 1 result order. Having the race one entry list will at least give people an opportunity to see where it will be.
I PM'd you the entry list.
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I have added the entry list to the practice server, the server now also is running the OSRW mod version of the track so make sure people have the version from the first post to be able to get into the server.
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Thanks. Just tested and works great. Even at Silverstone I need to be ready to turn into the pit box early. I'm going to be at the back most of this season so this is really helpful.
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Thanks. Just tested and works great. Even at Silverstone I need to be ready to turn into the pit box early. I'm going to be at the back most of this season so this is really helpful.
No worries but I think I will put the server back to the official track soon. Using the OSRW mod its going to get pretty much no use from anyone outside of the league.
I also thought of another way you could test any pit box. If you load a race with AI on the OSRW track and check your season standing then set your grid position to this number. You should have the same pit box, preferably Id like to run the stock tracls on the prac server as it lets public junp in for some laps.
This helps you be able to practice a bit in some traffic and also may encourage more new people to jump into the league. Same as with the Thursday prac server I suggested to Phil to open it up to MR AB or at least ABC. Thursdays uses more random tracks so its still unlikely many outside of the league will jump into that server.
Tuesdays we tend to use more official tracls and so more public see the servers and will jump in for some laps or races.
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Thanks. Just tested and works great. Even at Silverstone I need to be ready to turn into the pit box early. I'm going to be at the back most of this season so this is really helpful.
No worries but I think I will put the server back to the official track soon. Using the OSRW mod its going to get pretty much no use from anyone outside of the league.
I also thought of another way you could test any pit box. If you load a race with AI on the OSRW track and check your season standing then set your grid position to this number. You should have the same pit box, preferably Id like to run the stock tracls on the prac server as it lets public junp in for some laps.
This helps you be able to practice a bit in some traffic and also may encourage more new people to jump into the league. Same as with the Thursday prac server I suggested to Phil to open it up to MR AB or at least ABC. Thursdays uses more random tracks so its still unlikely many outside of the league will jump into that server.
Tuesdays we tend to use more official tracls and so more public see the servers and will jump in for some laps or races.
Marty, all sorted for me. Having the OSRW up for a bit was really good but really only impacts me since I am in the last pitbox.
I tested with AI and it always seems to assign the first pitbox irrespective of start position. Unless I'm missing something.
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We not using the old Silverstone track?
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I think Wally wants to follow the Backpain series, and they weren't around in '67.
(although I think it would make a great slipstreaming race ;) )
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Yes, the more "open" practice servers are good advertising.
Mael, you'll notice we didn't use Monza66 either ;)
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Marty, all sorted for me. Having the OSRW up for a bit was really good but really only impacts me since I am in the last pitbox.
I tested with AI and it always seems to assign the first pitbox irrespective of start position. Unless I'm missing something.
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Is that even in a quick race? I didnt test just assumed it would work like an entry list for mp if you picked grid 30 you would get pit 30. Its likely that it does always assign pit 1 for the human driver so then I will just put up the OSRW mod probably early in the week, from Friday on put official track up to see if some other people may want to jump in the server.
Especially with the OSRW mod tracks as who knows where the pit spots are located and it is usefull for those in the earlier spots to see where it will be.
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All this Escort/917 historic racing has destroyed my Maserati skillz, shit I'm slow. :( :(
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Heh @Marty, can we try the Cayman GT4 alongside the Maserati? Could be some fun...
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Heh @Marty, can we try the Cayman GT4 alongside the Maserati? Could be some fun...
Ive got them up on another server at Nurburg sprint with m235i, cayman gt4 and Maserati GT4. I dont think the 3 will really match up but Ive only driven the cayman there so far will try the others, server has been rather quiet.
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Tested all 3 for a few laps beamer way too slow but maserati and porsche are pretty close. Maserati actually drives better but I think only post patch its got better.
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Good news! I took my pedals apart and gave them a good blow out and have this time covered the pot and rotator thing with glad wrap. They are back to normal now, so am hoping they stay that way.
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Good news! I took my pedals apart and gave them a good blow out and have this time covered the pot and rotator thing with glad wrap. They are back to normal now, so am hoping they stay that way.
Fingers crossed.
I'm finding the Maserati feels more planted in 1.9. It seems to have more grip and not slide around as much. And that was even practising with a track temp of 13 degrees.
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Good news! I took my pedals apart and gave them a good blow out and have this time covered the pot and rotator thing with glad wrap. They are back to normal now, so am hoping they stay that way.
Fingers crossed.
I'm finding the Maserati feels more planted in 1.9. It seems to have more grip and not slide around as much. And that was even practising with a track temp of 13 degrees.
Grrrr, just jumped back on and it's worse than ever. The whole of the hangar straight was at 75% throttle. Why would blowing out the dust, etc. in it fix it momentarily, yet when it's all covered up it somehow gets worse? Could it be heat related? It's on carpet in an enclosed space.
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As Bacchulum said, I don't think pots are sensitive to heat. Have you tried an electrical cleaning/conducting spray on the opened pot? Is your pot securely housed so that it's not moving as you depress the pedal? I've had pots be a little loose in old pedals, which will stuff up the range of motion of the pot.
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I think you actually need to clean them like Wally said. Having grease or a deteriorated surface will reduce the conductivity . . and therefore performance.
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Good news! I took my pedals apart and gave them a good blow out and have this time covered the pot and rotator thing with glad wrap. They are back to normal now, so am hoping they stay that way.
Fingers crossed.
I'm finding the Maserati feels more planted in 1.9. It seems to have more grip and not slide around as much. And that was even practising with a track temp of 13 degrees.
Grrrr, just jumped back on and it's worse than ever. The whole of the hangar straight was at 75% throttle. Why would blowing out the dust, etc. in it fix it momentarily, yet when it's all covered up it somehow gets worse? Could it be heat related? It's on carpet in an enclosed space.
Maybe see if you can buy some new ones, they can be too expensive and maybe seal in the new ones once you get them.
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Hey Guy,just buy new pedals,,,they are gone.
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If it's a build up of carbon, it's shot. :(
Cleaning will only ever be a temporary solution.
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I'd say good timing that they broke GB, the new T300RS package that comes bundled with the T3PA pedals just came out ;)
http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/racing-wheels-accessories/thrustmaster-t300-gt-edition.html
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I've cleaned the pots themselves (full strip down) multiple times.
I think they are just gone. My only hope now is to swap the brake pot with the accelerator pot - I've already swapped with the clutch. And no, it seems you can't buy the pots anywhere - not ones that will fit.
Unless there is an improvement out of nowhere I don't think I'll make tomorrow nights race Wally.
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I've cleaned the pots themselves (full strip down) multiple times.
I think they are just gone. My only hope now is to swap the brake pot with the accelerator pot - I've already swapped with the clutch. And no, it seems you can't buy the pots anywhere - not ones that will fit.
Unless there is an improvement out of nowhere I don't think I'll make tomorrow nights race Wally.
Bad luck, GB. Equipment failure is certainly a PITA.
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For those with money to burn . . . https://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html (https://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html)
Look very nice..
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For those with money to burn . . . https://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html (https://www.fanatec.com/au-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-aus.html)
Look very nice..
I've been reading/watching a lot on this new CSL stuff. The wheel hub is apparently very close to being as good as the CSV2 at half the price. The only problem I've heard it that the CSV2 comes with the angle adjuster that the CSL doesn't need, and therefore needs to be mounted which the Fanatec 3 bolt pattern which many rigs, mine included don't fully support. Mine has the front 2 mount points, which mean it ends up being loose.
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I've cleaned the pots themselves (full strip down) multiple times.
I think they are just gone. My only hope now is to swap the brake pot with the accelerator pot - I've already swapped with the clutch. And no, it seems you can't buy the pots anywhere - not ones that will fit.
Unless there is an improvement out of nowhere I don't think I'll make tomorrow nights race Wally.
Have you tried searching on RS components GB? I haven't got a clue about what the pots are in the G27 so I have no idea whether they'd have what you're looking for.
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With the new pit stop rules it makes it a bit odd to work out how to split the race up, I wonder how many will stop for fuel then tyres the lap after as you really would only need the one stop here. Going too long on fuel or tyres may not be ideal so having to do 2 stops seems more a gimmick then a need. In the end I think everyone will pick their ideal lap on fuel and try to run this down then change tyres at what ever point it will seem good strategically depending on where they are in traffic.
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There are lots of choices, which is how I wanted it to be, to mix up the pit strategies and make them perhaps a little less predictable.
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There are lots of choices, which is how I wanted it to be, to mix up the pit strategies and make them perhaps a little less predictable.
I agree,last enduro ppl abused the relaxed rules for pitstops too much,like not changing tyres(myself)e putting only 1 lt of fuel and getting big unfair advantages,,,,good on ya wally!! Hey wally i am tried to beat you this time,,watch out...and i am on fire!!!! ;D
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Lol Simone. Sorry to dash your hopes, but no chance 8)
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Lol Simone. Sorry to dash your hopes, but no chance 8)
I saw your laptime on RSR Wally, not sure if car is faster or slower in 1.9 but if your in the 2:13's Simone and most of the field will be in trouble. ;D
Guybrush will do his solo thing in the 2:12's but there will be a few in the 13's I think, though race pace will depend on fuel loads and tyre wear so it could be interesting at the end.
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Ah no, that's probably a relatively old lap, and at 26 degrees, not 14. I'm nowhere near that pace in these race conditions.
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I don't think I'll make it tonight. If I can be arsed I'll take apart my pedals against and give them a blow out, but otherwise I won't make it. I'll let you know closer to start time.
Having said that I've only managed a dozen laps so don't think I'll be troubling the front runners too much.
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I don't think I'll make it tonight. If I can be arsed I'll take apart my pedals against and give them a blow out, but otherwise I won't make it. I'll let you know closer to start time.
Having said that I've only managed a dozen laps so don't think I'll be troubling the front runners too much.
You did about 10 laps and were doing low 13s.... Pretty sure that's still the quickest lap time on the server with Marty doing mid 13s
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I don't think I'll make it tonight.
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don't think I'll be troubling the front runners too much.
ahahahaahahahaahhaahahahahaahahahah!... :(
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I don't think I'll make it tonight. If I can be arsed I'll take apart my pedals against and give them a blow out, but otherwise I won't make it. I'll let you know closer to start time.
Having said that I've only managed a dozen laps so don't think I'll be troubling the front runners too much.
In 12 laps your the only one that got under 2:13 and I couldn't keep up with you and have the second fastest time with a chit load more laps. You could just turn up in qualy without any laps and still dominate, no idea how your doing it but I tried some setup changes and an absolute perfect lap I may just sneak into the 12's you did it rather easily and probably would get into the 11's if anyone got to the 12's.
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He only says it to hear you say that. :-*
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would get into the 11's if anyone got to the 12's.
of course:
I am starting to think GB does not actually exist in real life and he's just one of your apps. It automatically goes 1 second per lap faster than the fastest of the humans.... to make the race night just stressful enough ;)
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would get into the 11's if anyone got to the 12's.
of course:
I am starting to think GB does not actually exist in real life and he's just one of your apps. It automatically goes 1 second per lap faster than the fastest of the humans.... to make the race night just stressful enough ;)
I'm fairly sure Wally is busy in the code dungeon trying to fix his bot. :'(
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I don't think I'll make it tonight. If I can be arsed I'll take apart my pedals against and give them a blow out, but otherwise I won't make it. I'll let you know closer to start time.
Having said that I've only managed a dozen laps so don't think I'll be troubling the front runners too much.
Have you sprayed the pots with Isopropyl Alchohol? That's what I used.
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I've used contact cleaner many times - that stuff is nasty though. It sticks like glue.
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I've cleaned the pots themselves (full strip down) multiple times.
I think they are just gone. My only hope now is to swap the brake pot with the accelerator pot - I've already swapped with the clutch. And no, it seems you can't buy the pots anywhere - not ones that will fit.
Unless there is an improvement out of nowhere I don't think I'll make tomorrow nights race Wally.
This is a replacement pot(just need to cut off shaft) these are wire wound not carbon but should be good for a million plus cycles
remember this is not "rocket surgery" it is a Logitech product.
http://www.radioparts.com.au/product/33412208/3aw-10k-10k-3-watt-wire-wound-pot-potentiometer#.WBgYRMnmzFs
NB. ACNR
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Server's up.
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Won't make it tonight Wally... only just got broadband back after 5 days without >:(
Have to download 1.9 update etc catch ya next week Dave O.
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Won't make it tonight Wally... only just got broadband back after 5 days without >:(
Have to download 1.9 update etc catch ya next week Dave O.
Qualy doesnt start til 8:30 if you have a fairly quick connection you should be able to get the update well under that time.