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Title: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 01, 2016, 11:43:48 PM
This is another enduro round, with a single 27 lap race at Paul Ricard Blancpain Endurance layout  [VERSION 0.9.7 DOWNLOAD (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/paul-ricard.6115/)]

There are two compulsory pit stops (no pit window), with refuelling allowed.  You must change tyres only in 1 pit stop, and you must refuel only (no tyre change) in the other stop. You can do the fuel and tyre stops in either order.

Fuel rate is 1.8x (which should see you get a maximum of 22 laps on a full tank).
Tyre wear rate is 1.5x.

The weather is going to be 28 degrees and clear.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: marty on November 02, 2016, 12:07:57 AM
Server is up, 28c with track temp 38c +-1c so we may finaly get these cars to run close to optimal temps.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on November 02, 2016, 11:12:30 AM
would be cool to do a season some time where we were managing hot tyers not cold all the time,  should be a nice change 
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Mael on November 02, 2016, 11:23:31 AM
We should do an Australian season then, air temperature 45 degrees, track temperature 60 degrees   8)
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on November 02, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
We should do an Australian season then, air temperature 45 degrees, track temperature 60 degrees   8)
That's why we're the only country that races through winter and not summer. :o
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: marty on November 02, 2016, 12:58:34 PM
We should do an Australian season then, air temperature 45 degrees, track temperature 60 degrees   8)

Im fairly sure those were the track temps for the bathurst 12hr a couple years ago. They were still double and triple stinting the tyres I think mediums early then hards during the hot part of the day. Guys were still setting pb laps in the 2nd and 3rd hour on the tyres in those conditions.  ;)

Current season hard tyre with 1.5x wear in 1 hour the tyres had lost a bit so simulated 90 minutes. Cold temps caused excessive graining and in 1.9 graining/blistering/flatspots is linked to tyre wear not damage rate so this will be higher then earlier rounds. With damage at 50% this also kept tyre damage at this rate which now is at 150%.

I wondernif we will get blistering at these temps or if it will stay in ideal temp range. Generally a single compound series will have tyres that can handle the hottest temps without being killed early, maybe graining is a bit excessive in colder temps on these harder tyres.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 03, 2016, 01:34:27 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Joe on November 03, 2016, 01:43:17 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.

I don't get how you got that time in so few laps on a single monitor... This is the first time I've driven this track since triples and it makes it much easier as I'm looking for apexes in the side monitors.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
0xde4f20a1$$guybot.activate
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2016, 02:12:19 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.

I don't get how you got that time in so few laps on a single monitor... This is the first time I've driven this track since triples and it makes it much easier as I'm looking for apexes in the side monitors.
GB if you still have your telemetry, in My Documents /Assetto Corsa/aim (or telemetry?) post it up here and Joe too and I can do a comparison in Race Studio.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on November 03, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.

I don't get how you got that time in so few laps on a single monitor... This is the first time I've driven this track since triples and it makes it much easier as I'm looking for apexes in the side monitors.
GB if you still have your telemetry, in My Documents /Assetto Corsa/aim (or telemetry?) post it up here and Joe too and I can do a comparison in Race Studio.
Not again @Wally !! I remember last time was just depressing for everyone. Conclusion was there was no magic in GBs pace. I had hoped that it would prove he had a special patch to share :D
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 03, 2016, 03:13:54 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.

I don't get how you got that time in so few laps on a single monitor... This is the first time I've driven this track since triples and it makes it much easier as I'm looking for apexes in the side monitors.

Its all about the reference points.  If you want to go fast you need to be consistently on the limit and you can only do so if you are using reference points to get your braking, turning, etc exactly right, otherwise you will overshoot and your next action will be compensating for the fluctuation in the action before - eg I brake a meter too late into the corner so I have to turn in later which then means I get on the throttle later and have taken a different line - all of which I haven't perfected before because every time I take the corner I'm doing something different.

For example, the last corner here I brake exactly 1 meter before the third last white line on the left of the road and then turn in a meter before the last white line which I know will take me to the apex.  However if I haven't used my reference points properly for the corner before then I will approach from a wider angle and I know that if I turn in at the same point I won't make the apex as my car has to rotate more due to the different approach angle.

Its like a computer - "if that, then this".  Relying on your wits alone is for suckers. The more reference points you have for everything the better.

That's my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Joe on November 03, 2016, 03:33:25 PM
Sometimes I struggle to find ref points, but you seem to use pretty much anything. Often I'll have braking points, but not often a turn in point, and even then my braking point will be between 'this' and 'that' somewhere...
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: marty on November 03, 2016, 03:48:20 PM
I put my setup on ptracker if anyone wants it.  I only did a dozen laps or so, so haven't changed too much.

I don't get how you got that time in so few laps on a single monitor... This is the first time I've driven this track since triples and it makes it much easier as I'm looking for apexes in the side monitors.
GB if you still have your telemetry, in My Documents /Assetto Corsa/aim (or telemetry?) post it up here and Joe too and I can do a comparison in Race Studio.

You can get a basic comparison in stracker here
http://52.65.162.16:50041/lapdetails?lapid=153144#
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 03, 2016, 05:58:50 PM
Sometimes I struggle to find ref points, but you seem to use pretty much anything. Often I'll have braking points, but not often a turn in point, and even then my braking point will be between 'this' and 'that' somewhere...
I'm the same. I brake "around about here".
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on November 03, 2016, 06:09:07 PM
Sometimes I struggle to find ref points, but you seem to use pretty much anything. Often I'll have braking points, but not often a turn in point, and even then my braking point will be between 'this' and 'that' somewhere...
I'm the same. I brake "around about here".
I thought you would use the same data as for your "bot"!!
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: grat on November 03, 2016, 06:13:36 PM
Sometimes I struggle to find ref points, but you seem to use pretty much anything. Often I'll have braking points, but not often a turn in point, and even then my braking point will be between 'this' and 'that' somewhere...
I'm the same. I brake "around about here".
I thought you would use the same data as for your "bot"!!
Bot "learns" the track...

BTW, guys: expect GB to go in the low 2:05, and likely in the 2:04! I am almost (half a second) matching the time he set with similar number of laps. I can tell I could get a few tenths less if I nailed a really good lap, and GB usually goes more than a second faster than that.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on November 05, 2016, 11:20:07 PM
Sorry to say but I won't be able to make this Tuesday night Wally.   I hope it's a good night.  I'm still amazed at the quality of this mod track.  Simply outstanding.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 06, 2016, 07:49:57 AM
Sorry to say but I won't be able to make this Tuesday night Wally.   I hope it's a good night.  I'm still amazed at the quality of this mod track.  Simply outstanding.
Bad luck, GB. This track could be bought by KS and put into AC like Zandvoort, easily.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Joe on November 08, 2016, 09:51:17 AM
Phil, I PM'd you about team pit strategy as I have no idea and last week didn't work out so well  ;D
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 08, 2016, 10:58:59 AM
Grat and I pepper each other with information, which we both then largely ignore and do our own thing :)
But with Guybrush, Matthew and Jeremy away this round, Grat and I are going to finish 1 and 2, Marty willing.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: grat on November 08, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Grat and I pepper each other with information, which we both then largely ignore and do our own thing :)
But with Guybrush, Matthew and Jeremy away this round, Grat and I are going to finish 1 and 2, Marty willing.
Phil and Joe are very fast, Wally, and Marty is very strong on long races, while I am prone to mistakes...
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: marty on November 08, 2016, 11:43:56 AM
Grat and I pepper each other with information, which we both then largely ignore and do our own thing :)
But with Guybrush, Matthew and Jeremy away this round, Grat and I are going to finish 1 and 2, Marty willing.
Phil and Joe are very fast, Wally, and Marty is very strong on long races, while I am prone to mistakes...

Simone will get Wally surely.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on November 08, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Yep, definitely this week. ;)
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Joe on November 08, 2016, 12:04:17 PM
Grat and I are going to finish 1 and 2, Marty willing.

That's a bold statement to make there Wally! I was in the zone last night doing consistant low 07s, but doubtful that'll happen tonight  ;D
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 08, 2016, 01:01:27 PM
Grat and I pepper each other with information, which we both then largely ignore and do our own thing :)
But with Guybrush, Matthew and Jeremy away this round, Grat and I are going to finish 1 and 2, Marty willing.
Phil and Joe are very fast, Wally, and Marty is very strong on long races, while I am prone to mistakes...
C'mon Grat, play the game... you've got to strike fear into your opponents!
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on November 08, 2016, 01:48:22 PM
Like Simone strikes fear into Wally each week. ;)
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Simone on November 08, 2016, 02:34:01 PM
Like Simone strikes fear into Wally each week. ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Actually i got 2 opponents now that i`d like to strike with fear,and.....Joe....mate....my dust will make your mouth dry(ahahahha i love this quote :-X)

On the little more serious note,is gonna be a stormy night north Brisbane and it is not reccomended to use a PC during tropical storms,so guys,i`d love to race but i have 50% of not making it  :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Joe on November 08, 2016, 02:37:53 PM
Like Simone strikes fear into Wally each week. ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Actually i got 2 opponents now that i`d like to strike with fear,and.....Joe....mate....my dust will make your mouth dry(ahahahha i love this quote :-X)

On the little more serious note,is gonna be a stormy night north Brisbane and it is not reccomended to use a PC during tropical storms,so guys,i`d love to race but i have 50% of not making it  :( :( :( :( :( :(

All that talk and now making excuses? Seems you're scared to me..
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: nith on November 08, 2016, 05:05:40 PM
Can't join the practice server for some reason.

It just crashes once the cars load. Every other server is fine.

Any suggestions ?
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: marty on November 08, 2016, 05:46:22 PM
Can't join the practice server for some reason.

It just crashes once the cars load. Every other server is fine.

Any suggestions ?

I saw you get a checksum error a few days ago when we were in. Download the latest version of the track from the first post as you may have an older one.

The track in tbe practice server is the same version we are running tonight so if you get a checksum error into that you wont get in tonight either. I think the download is around 200MB and with RD these can be slow at times so dont leave it to the last minute to download the track.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: nith on November 08, 2016, 05:53:10 PM
Thanks Marty. Managed to get in. Was installing to wrong folder


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Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Wally on November 08, 2016, 06:08:52 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S14R5: Paul Ricard Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on November 08, 2016, 06:33:42 PM
I might be in the same boat as Simone tonight.
Big storms popping up out of nowhere atm. :-\
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