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Title: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 21, 2017, 09:48:07 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/01/season-15-standings.html)

Penalties
Race 1
There were 4 cars wide approaching T1 - from left to right, Mael, Joe, Nith, Wally. There was one little touch between Joe and Nith, pushing Nith into me, where I spun across the track. It's hard to assign blame to this one - everyone had their gap in front of them, but 4 wide was overall too ambitious. If anything, Nith was overly ambitious trying to squeeze into the gap (as he was coming from further back), but there was room, with Mael doing the same on the left and resulting in us being 4 wide. No penalties.

Race 2
No impacts at all until lap 9!

Round Points
Phil.8   68
nith   62
Kcender87   58
Mael   56
ab156   52
Freezer   51
Wally   47
Rob   47
Bacchulum   47
Joe   45
Diehard   44
Doobs   44
Seanus   42
Simone   41
Chap111   40
RussG   39
Grat   34

Congratulations on Phil for the clean sweep in all departments, winning maximum points.

Season Champions
1. Diehard, 350
2. Phil.8, 330 (up from 3rd)
3. Joe & Mael, 312


Congratulations to Diehard on taking out the season, with 1 win and 5 podiums, and an average finishing position of 4.9. A great effort, given that he was often on the receiving end of penalties of either pitstop time or ballast. He never dropped out of the top 3 in the season standings.

Phil climbed steadily up the ladder all season to finish 2nd. Joe also climbed steadily, while Mael was consistenly around 5th with a late charge, with Mugello being his second best points haul.

Team Championship
1. Krahl Racing (Phil.8 and Joe), 642
1. DA Racing (Grat and Wally), 574
2. Maki Engineering (Freezer and Mael), 542

Phil and Joe were too strong as a combination, as the season podium shows.

 
 
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: nith on February 21, 2017, 10:31:36 PM
Race 1

I got an amazing start and pulled up between Wally and someone else. The person on my left moved and half the field was taken out. I was sliding and did touch someone coming onto the track. Apologies whom ever that was. I managed to go from the back of the field up to p3.

Race 2

Another good start and picked Mael off into turn 1. I was about .3 per lap slower than Phil however he made a mistake and i caught up about 2 seconds. After the pits we were .7 from each other. I just couldn't keep the pace with Phil. Came home with p2 so i am happy with that.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 10:54:05 PM
The road I was talking about:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sp237-coste-open-road.13019/

South loop is really good. Do not miss the alternate AI grid: just start a quick race with a random mix of 20 or so cars and enjoy.

If you want to see a 100 meters jump, try to crash on the left after the first left hairpin downhill in the south loop.

As for the track itself: it's missing some nicer physical mesh and some details on the scenery. But otherwise it is the most realistic road I have seen. Better than lake louise.

Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 21, 2017, 10:58:10 PM
Poor end to a great season for me. Qualified 2nd, but was sluggish off the line as usual and had people come up either side of me. I could see them getting closer and closer on helicorsa and I was trying to hold it straight but then the inevitable happened and there was contact and then a pinball effect. I have  no idea who was to blame, but I guess if I was one of the trailing cars in that situation I probably would have backed off being lap 1 and before T1. Car was a wreck and had to quit.

R2 I started 10th; I had a lot of quick laps in qually so guess they were cuts but didn't see PLP tell me they were so will wait for the results. Spent the first 8 laps trying to pass kcender. Would get past him on the straight but couldn't get it to stick. Finally did then was behind Baccculum and somebody else both who pitted as did kcender. I put in a quick lap then pitted expecting to come out in front but I missed my pit box and had to reverse. I came out just behind kcender and we did the same again a few times. Eventually I got away in a messy way by screwing up my line in T2/T3 and him giving me a little tap in the rear pushing him off. After that Mael was 17 seconds ahead and I got that down to 7-8 seconds by the end but not enough. I put in 3 52's in the last 3 laps two of them PBs.

Disappointing as I assume no points in R1 will knock me off the podium and give it to Mael.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 21, 2017, 11:01:05 PM
The road I was talking about:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sp237-coste-open-road.13019/

South loop is really good. Do not miss the alternate AI grid: just start a quick race with a random mix of 20 or so cars and enjoy.

If you want to see a 100 meters jump, try to crash on the left after the first left hairpin downhill in the south loop.

As for the track itself: it's missing some nicer physical mesh and some details on the scenery. But otherwise it is the most realistic road I have seen. Better than lake louise.

Looks fun. I also saw this one which is the same type of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DP_6mf-vGc
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
The road I was talking about:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sp237-coste-open-road.13019/

South loop is really good. Do not miss the alternate AI grid: just start a quick race with a random mix of 20 or so cars and enjoy.

If you want to see a 100 meters jump, try to crash on the left after the first left hairpin downhill in the south loop.

As for the track itself: it's missing some nicer physical mesh and some details on the scenery. But otherwise it is the most realistic road I have seen. Better than lake louise.

Looks fun. I also saw this one which is the same type of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DP_6mf-vGc
OOOOOh,.. this one looks good too! post the link! :)
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 11:09:39 PM
and here they are:

Mount Akina 2017 Mod:
http://acmods.net/tracks/mount-akina-2017/

Caterham Seven 620 R Mod:
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/caterham-seven-620r.13387/
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 11:10:57 PM
Interesting: the results do not show my ballast (I swear I could feel it ;))
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 21, 2017, 11:18:00 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)

(rest coming in instalments :) )

Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 11:18:50 PM
SEASON REPORT:

Great season again! I heard a lot of people complaining about the racing standards, but I think we are really an amazing group. Some accidents will always happen, and sometime we did screw up the starts. But the quality fo the battles is high.

Personally, I was very happy to confirm my performance on the Maserati---albeit not as season standings go, as I missed a night and the computer failed me completely another night and had a pair of unlucky evenings like tonight. But I also had great nights battling with Marty or Phil or Joe, which is great for me. Indeed after 100 races my stats start to look pretty nice! 10 wins, 30 podiums, and 6 poles! Who would have thought when I started two years ago!

So thank you all and as usual a special thanks to Wally!
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 21, 2017, 11:18:57 PM
Interesting: the results do not show my ballast (I swear I could feel it ;) )
Yeah, I have to fix that. You and I definitely had ballast - it shows up in the server log but not in the results output.

PS. Results are up, with Diehard taking the season.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 21, 2017, 11:20:01 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)

(rest coming in instalments :) )

Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?
Yeah, something went wrong. Wally started way too behind as well... he should have started 2nd or so.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 21, 2017, 11:21:14 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)

(rest coming in instalments :) )

Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?
Yeah, something went wrong. Wally started way too behind as well... he should have started 2nd or so.

Looks like Mael started 2nd and his second fastest qually lap was slower than mine.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 21, 2017, 11:24:46 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)

(rest coming in instalments :) )

Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?
I will check...
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on February 21, 2017, 11:32:06 PM
Looks like Mael started 2nd and his second fastest qually lap was slower than mine.

Wally probably judged my lap to be of better quality  ;D

Race 1 was a disaster, I knew I took a slight change on passing Joe but it looked like there might have been a bit of space. As it turned out there wasn't. Pitted early to fix damaged but then threw away any hope of a decent point haul by spinning at T1. Noticed Wally did the same a few laps later so at least I were in good company.

Race 2 was a bit better, a solid start left me behind Phil and Nith, drove as hard as I could but they were at least .5 of a second faster. At about lap 10 Phil lapped a driver with Nith lining up to do the same. I got so engrossed in the action in front of me that I missed my brake marker and ran off the track. A lonely and error filled run to the end to finish a satisfied 3rd .

Thanks Freezer, the best team season finish yet! Next time we will get Grat & Wally.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on February 21, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/02/s16r7-praga-r1-at-mugello.html)

(rest coming in instalments :) )

Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?
I will check...
Same here.  My best times were 1/10th apart yet I started 7th and 17th...?
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 21, 2017, 11:34:48 PM
Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?

It was wrong because the names in-game (i.e. your Steam name), didn't match the name in the server's entry list. The correct race 2 start order should have been:

Racer: Phil.8, 2nd best qual lap: 1:52:497
Racer: Joe Stevens, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:516
Racer: Mael, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:591
Racer: nith, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:700
Racer: RussG, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:932
Racer: Glenn Frost, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:020
Racer: XGN Wally, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:180
Racer: AB156, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:359
Racer: Seanus, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:560
Racer: grat, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:819
Racer: Diehard, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:101
Racer: Kcender87, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:156
Racer: Bacchulum, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:241
Racer: Simone, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:349
Racer: mofodoobs, 2nd best qual lap: 1:56:821
Racer: chap111, 2nd best qual lap: 1:59:336
Racer: Astro Spectra, 2nd best qual lap: 2:19:086

I'll have to make some changes/fixes as a result of AC 1.12 :(
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on February 21, 2017, 11:38:04 PM
Looks like Mael started 2nd and his second fastest qually lap was slower than mine.

Wally probably judged my lap to be of better quality  ;D

Race 1 was a disaster, I knew I took a slight change on passing Joe but it looked like there might have been a bit of space. As it turned out there wasn't. Pitted early to fix damaged but then threw away any hope of a decent point haul by spinning at T1. Noticed Wally did the same a few laps later so at least I were in good company.

Race 2 was a bit better, a solid start left me behind Phil and Nith, drove as hard as I could but they were at least .5 of a second faster. At about lap 10 Phil lapped a driver with Nith lining up to do the same. I got so engrossed in the action in front of me that I missed my brake marker and ran off the track. A lonely and error filled run to the end to finish a satisfied 3rd .

Thanks Freezer, the best team season finish yet! Next time we will get Grat & Wally.
Yes well done Mael. . . . if only I hadn't missed the first two rounds!!!

Up and down night for me.  Race one I almost did an Eddie the Eagle with the big crash but just got a snag and spun.  However given so many others spun I came out well and pushed on.  A mistake in putting on Soft tyres at the half way point I though would cost me but they hung on luckily.
Race 2 saw me weirdly starting in 17th and basically pushing so hard to make it up I had a few spins and cost myself to many spots. Not a great way to spend my 200th race  8)

Good season in the Praga though, enjoyed it and look forward to the next one
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 21, 2017, 11:50:37 PM
Wally, none of my qually laps were a cut, and my second fastest lap was 1:53:516 yet I started 10th in R2? I checked the second fastest laps for a few people that started in front of me and they were slower?

It was wrong because the names in-game (i.e. your Steam name), didn't match the name in the server's entry list. The correct race 2 start order should have been:

Racer: Phil.8, 2nd best qual lap: 1:52:497
Racer: Joe Stevens, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:516
Racer: Mael, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:591
Racer: nith, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:700
Racer: RussG, 2nd best qual lap: 1:53:932
Racer: Glenn Frost, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:020
Racer: XGN Wally, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:180
Racer: AB156, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:359
Racer: Seanus, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:560
Racer: grat, 2nd best qual lap: 1:54:819
Racer: Diehard, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:101
Racer: Kcender87, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:156
Racer: Bacchulum, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:241
Racer: Simone, 2nd best qual lap: 1:55:349
Racer: mofodoobs, 2nd best qual lap: 1:56:821
Racer: chap111, 2nd best qual lap: 1:59:336
Racer: Astro Spectra, 2nd best qual lap: 2:19:086

I'll have to make some changes/fixes as a result of AC 1.12 :(

Oh well, I still kept 3rd in the season standing after what felt like a bad night. All I take from these corrected results is that even though mael is 'officially' standing on the 3rd position step with me, that's all based on a lie  ;D
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 12:10:09 AM
Sorry to say Joe, the results are still correct  ;D
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 12:14:37 AM
Here's a few post-season statistics:

Most wins: Grat, 4
Most podiums: Phil, 8
Most poles: Grat, Kcender87, Phil, 4
Most fastest laps: Phil, 7
Most consistent: Mael, 3
Hunter: Wally, 3
Hunted: RussG, 2
Busiest: Wally, 3
Loneliest: Bacchulum, Shameless, Grat, Vipergod: 2

I'm pleased to get the busiest stat - that means I was often in the thick of the action.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 12:27:25 AM
My races:

Race 1, I qualified well in 3rd (hooray for ballast giving other people a go near the front ;) ), but got caught up in the 4 into 1 arithmetic that didn't produce a good result. My car was badly damaged. I limped around the circuit to pit for repairs, and came out in 15th. From there I just had to put my head down and try to put in consistent laps. I clawed my way back to 13th, and after I pitted, I stayed around that position, despite trying to make some inroads into the gap to Russ.

Race 2 was much better, even though Grat decided to ignore team orders and wouldn't let me pass him :D
I decided to pit at the end of lap 7 to try to get away from the train in front of me, but most of them pitted too, so we we were still stuck together.
I had decided to run on Hards because I could do virtually the same time as on Mediums, but they wore much better. I still managed a 1:53:788 on Hards with 15 kg of ballast. I knew I'd be able to put in much more consistent lap times towards the end of each stint. The strategy paid off when I was chasing Simone, matching his pace, until he ran a little wide and ended up sliding off the track when he was on worn Softs and I could pass him. I chased Kcender home to finish 0.6 secs behind in 6th.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on February 22, 2017, 10:00:34 AM
Thanks for another awesome season Wally, Tuesday night is still the highlight of my week!

I seemed to do well in these cars; over the time I've been sim racing I've had times where I feel I've made a noticeable improvement and that happened during the season. It was actually around the same time I got my new wheel but I think that's coincidence.

The other times were when I moved to triples and when I got load cell pedals so equipment definitely does come into it to a degree. That said skill is clearly the largest factor with Guybrush smoking us all on his single screen and G27... Some of the new peeps are yet to witness The GB!
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on February 22, 2017, 11:00:01 AM
Thanks for the season wally :)
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
Thanks guys, it's nice to get the thanks.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on February 22, 2017, 01:56:07 PM
Great race and of course great season,thx all for a fantastic tuesday night online racing.I loved the car and i loved the company i hope to compete again next season ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on February 22, 2017, 02:36:18 PM
2 words:

Evil Curbs! >:(


Thanks for the effort once again Wally (my life would suck without this :-[ :P )
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 03:20:39 PM
2 words:

Evil Curbs! >:(


Thanks for the effort once again Wally (my life would suck without this :-[ :P )
That's good to hear. Not that your life sucks, but that you're getting a lot of enjoyment out if it!
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on February 22, 2017, 04:42:30 PM
Even though I hated the cars (especially the squeeking) and they were left-hand drive sportscars in an open-wheel series, and my computer was up the shit for 3 weeks, it's still the highlight of my week. ;)
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: rob on February 22, 2017, 04:50:42 PM
Thanks again for all your hard work Wally, it really is appreciated. Once again you laboured hard so that the rest of us can have a good time on Tuesday nights.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on February 22, 2017, 07:17:46 PM
Thanks guys, it's nice to get the thanks.
Did you get mine? :) I only posted a season report because I did not have time. But all the season was very good, even the last night, albeit for me it was a bit complicated.
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on February 22, 2017, 10:08:55 PM
Many thanks Wally.
I certainly appreciate the time and effort that goes into organising a season of racing, setting up servers, publishing results etc, so WELL DONE mate.
I would also like to thank all the participants, without whom the racing we had would not be possible.
Sorry to those I shunted and  :P to those who shunted me (you know who you are  ;) )

Can't wait for next season. I am saving my vote until I get a chance to try out the cars, but it seems to me a strange poll where you have 29 votes but 19 voters. I know you can vote for more than one option, but my personal opinion is that you shouldn't be able to.

Cheers  8)
Title: Re: S15R7: Mugello Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2017, 11:13:49 PM
Many thanks Wally.
I certainly appreciate the time and effort that goes into organising a season of racing, setting up servers, publishing results etc, so WELL DONE mate.
I would also like to thank all the participants, without whom the racing we had would not be possible.
Sorry to those I shunted and  :P to those who shunted me (you know who you are  ;) )

Can't wait for next season. I am saving my vote until I get a chance to try out the cars, but it seems to me a strange poll where you have 29 votes but 19 voters. I know you can vote for more than one option, but my personal opinion is that you shouldn't be able to.

Cheers  8)
My thinking on the voting is "vote for whatever you wouldn't mind racing", not just what your absolute favourite is. But whether you vote for one option or multiple is of course entirely up to you.
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