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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on March 14, 2017, 10:08:48 PM
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RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/s16r1-porsche-gt3-cup-at-paul-ricard.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)
Round Points
Marty 65
Phil.8 64
Diehard 58
Matthew111 58
Jeremy 54
Mael 54
nith 54
Simone 49
Joe 47
Freezer 45
Seanus 43
Wally 40
Slow_As 39
Cursed 36
Rob 36
Jimmy 33
AJ 32
Kcender87 32
RussG 26
Shameless 23
ab156 18
Bird 18
Doobs 13
Grat 11
Congratulations to Phil on pole position, Phil and Marty on the race wins, and to Marty for the overall round win.
Lap 1 Penalties
Race 1: Jimmy ran into the back of Bird - penalty of 40 kg for next race.
Race 2: Seanus had a spin, just a racing incident, between T2 and T3 on cold tyres, which caused a bit of a pileup.
Slow As ran into the back of Wally - penalty of 40 kg for next race.
Bird, Joe and Grat were 3 wide, with Grat almost completely off the track to the right. Joe moved across to avoid Bird, and hit Grat into the fence. Grat was to the rear and side of Joe and not visible, so racing incident.
Season Leaders
1. Marty, 65
2. Phil.8, 64
3. Diehard & Matthew111, 58
Struggle Street Racing Crew had a good start to the season, just 1 point clear of Krahl Racing, with Maki Racing coming third.
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If that's anything to go by this should be a fun season. Had some good battles especially in race 1. Seemed like there was some fairly close racing most of the way through the field :)
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Struggled for the first few laps with the lack of grip. I was doing ok trying to keep rob off my tail until I starting getting hot and losing concentration. I ended up getting loose and slamming my side into one of the black tyre barriers, killed both f/r left side suspension, limped it to the pits for repairs and continued on to the end of the race. Managed a PB of a 1:30.6 for the first session.
Second race I was doing well until too many starting pushing it after the first corner on the first lap and I got sandwiched, damaged the car but was ok to continue.. then by the end of the first lap it went from bad to worse.. slammed into Grat who was spinning, I tried to avoid him but in the end had nowhere to go.. back in the pits once again.. made up a few positions from quitters and a PB of 1:29.6 during the race. I ended up passing guys on their lead lap under a blue flag because they were slowing me down..
Hope that the default tracks prove better grip for the porsche. Starting to think we need tougher penalties for 1st lap offenders because it doesn't seem to discourage some people from trying to shove their way through on cold tyres.
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As AJ said close racing and good battles. Fun fun fun.
I qualified 7th which wasn't too bad, was taking it super cautious through 1 and 2, straightened up after two, put down the throttle to about half way and spun around to the right and hit the wall. My replay cut the start off, so I don't know if it was all me or whether there was contact. My wheels were pretty much straight and I didn't go full power so was really surprised to spin. Was waiting for a safe spot to rejoin and came back in 17th. I had quite a lot of good battles after that and a good chase with Seanus. Kcender came up behind who started behind me, so if the spin was my fault and you got caught up then sorry. Was a lot of cars around and I wasn't too sure what happened. Caught up with Wally and Simone at the end and had a bit of a chase there.
Race 2 had some fun battles at the start with a few people and a good chase on Slow As. I got past him on lap 10 with Simone 5.5s ahead. The gap slowly came down and finished the race just behind him but not enough laps to have a go. Jeremy popped in-between us for a few laps before hitting one of those black barriers.
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Horrible night for me :(... quite depressed.
Quali: did a bit better than I expected in 3rd. I thought Jeremy and kcender would have been ahead of me but managed a decent lap a few minutes from the end.
Race 1: the start was great: Marty had a bit of a moment at the get-go, involuntarily closing the space between him and Phil, but in the end left me some space for t1 and when he got a little sideways existing t2 I had a go on the outside of t3. From them we battled nicely through t3-t5 and I got out of it ahead of him. I fenced off a few attacks but then managed to get on a decent rhythm. I could have maybe kept the position, or at least have some fun and fight for podium with Jeremy. But on lap 7 or 8 I touched the black thingy on the inside of t2 and it was game over. Had to repair suspensions and lost a million seconds. I kept going in solitary, gaining a position when I think shameless had a big moment. Ended up 2 to last.
Race 2: I tried to take the start easily, but immediately quite a few were facing all sorts of ways around me, so I just tried to pass wherever there was no car (including having to go off track between t1 and t2). Everything went mostly fine until exiting t6-7: I had just passed Bird on the inside when we found a few cars in partial control ahead of us. I tried to go on the outside, but the car ahead of me did not see me. I kept going on the outside (of the track, now!) and rejoin after the corner, but again I was unseen and there was no space. It was the poor friend or the wall. Ended up being nice and chose the wall. I limped to the pits and repaired suspensions again. But when I came out of pits I was just a dangerous cold-tyres guy in the middle of the top-positions pack. I kept looking in the mirrors until I just felt enough was enough and preferred stopping being a danger for everybody.
As I said: very bad night for me. But my grasp is that the battles were fierce and laptimes very close. It will probably be a great season. Unfortunately it looks like it won't be a great season for me :( Probably I am just too tired these days to keep concentration for 30 mins straight...
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mostly fine until exiting t6-7: I had just passed Bird on the inside when we found a few cars in partial control ahead of us. I tried to go on the outside, but the car ahead of me did not see me. I kept going on the outside (of the track, now!) and rejoin after the corner, but again I was unseen and there was no space. It was the poor friend or the wall.
This was me on the outside. I saw you (maybe not immedately as I was giving room to whoever was on my inside), but seemed to me you were trying to go three wide around the outside when there wasn't really a gap
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Was a fun night with lots of pretty close times all round, qualy seemed a battle for all with the lower grip then Phil snuck in a nice lap at the end. I had time and fuel for 1 last lap but stuffed the braking to t1 and so luckily stayed on the front row as nobody else got in a better lap at the end.
Race 1 I had a pretty horrible start nearly spinning it off the line, ended up side by side with Grat for a few corners but the back straight I was outside and with cold tyres didnt really want to push the issue too much out there, I backed off a little and let Grat take 2nd. From there it took me what seemed longer then others to get up to temps and pressures with Phil putting in some good early laps. Grat was also quick so I just followed hoping to get a look at some point. He the nailed the big black tyre bundle lap 7, Phil was about 3 seconds ahead and so I just pushed on as hard as possible to make the gap up. It seemed my car came better in the second half and he was losing a little but I was barely gaining .1 to .2 a lap going well under qualy pace. By the end of the race I got a little closer but he drove too well and I just couldnt make up that early deficit.
Race 2, start wasnt as bad but Jeremy got a flyer and took the middle to t1. We were 3 wide me inside and somehow got around with only a minor rub, Jeremy and I were side by side through t2 and then into the chicane where I was out of position and again had to concede 2nd early. I battled Jeremy for a bit but saw that was just letting Phil get away even more and Jeremy had some good pace, so I let him go a little to see if he could catch Phil and maybe slow him down. Unfortunately around lap 7 or so he spun on the long double apex right at the end of the back straight, now it was again me chasing Phil. The gap was probably around the 3 second mark again but I made up a bit more time early to get into attack range with about 5 to go. I took a little look up the inside at the end of the back straight then backed out of it, Phil then went a bit wide on entry so I got back on the power and got inside for the next turn to make the pass. Considering the starts a 2nd and 1st were good results and seems there will be some close racing in these, passing isnt easy at any track.
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mostly fine until exiting t6-7: I had just passed Bird on the inside when we found a few cars in partial control ahead of us. I tried to go on the outside, but the car ahead of me did not see me. I kept going on the outside (of the track, now!) and rejoin after the corner, but again I was unseen and there was no space. It was the poor friend or the wall.
This was me on the outside. I saw you (maybe not immedately as I was giving room to whoever was on my inside), but seemed to me you were trying to go three wide around the outside when there wasn't really a gap
Actually what im in thinking about happened at 8/9 so maybe not you. Someone tried to come around the outsidr off the track though.
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Results in first post.
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mostly fine until exiting t6-7: I had just passed Bird on the inside when we found a few cars in partial control ahead of us. I tried to go on the outside, but the car ahead of me did not see me. I kept going on the outside (of the track, now!) and rejoin after the corner, but again I was unseen and there was no space. It was the poor friend or the wall.
This was me on the outside. I saw you (maybe not immedately as I was giving room to whoever was on my inside), but seemed to me you were trying to go three wide around the outside when there wasn't really a gap
Actually what im in thinking about happened at 8/9 so maybe not you. Someone tried to come around the outsidr off the track though.
It must be the same episode, Joe. So yes, it was me. As far as I could tell "live" I was side by side at turn in but... you did not turn in, so I had nowhere to go but off track. But of course I am sure that if I watch a replay I'll see I could do much better, I probably misjudged where bird was on the other side of you, and most likely it was at least 60% my fault ;). But in all cases: no worries, all good, no criticism meant towards you at all :)
I just wish race 1 went differently. I think I would have had plenty of fun battling with Marty and Jeremy there. Oh well, hopefully next week will be better.
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If anyone wants the race replays here they are for both races.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vyj3z1n3waex2ke/replay_911_cup_r1_r2.rar
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Good start for Maki Engineering, hopefully DA Racings's woes will continue ;D
Race 1 started well but had to get out of Nith way at the long double apex corner, saw him approaching at a great rate of knots in the mirrors and got out of the way rather than risk a collision on lap 1. This caused me to lose a spot or two. Hell bend on revenge I set after Nith vouching to make him pay! Unfortunately he was just too quick and revenge would have to wait until race 2.
Race two a couple of cars came between me and Nith to foil my revenge but I persisted. Then lap17 it all changed. A small mistake from Nith at T2 unsettled Kcender, who proceeded to test the tire cones resilience while allowing me to fly past Nith......revenge :P
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Qualified 10th and got away fine but found myself behind team mate Mael. Good to see us both up there but initially I was catching him in some parts of the track and
was concerned about having no contact. After a few laps I got by but not to long later a wobble saw him back past and pulled a 2 sec gap. Spent the rest of the race
trying to close it without much luck.
R2: Stuffed up coming out of T2 getting on the gas and spun. Had to wait for the field to pass and was last. From there spent the whole race just trying to catch people
to make it interesting. Car was a little slower due to minor damage which didn't help my cause.
Good start though for Maki Racing . . .
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@Joe, yeah you spun all your yourself, too heavy on the throttle.
Race 1 was good for me. Negotiated the crowded T1 successfully, then got an early pass on Simone, who then chased me ruthlessly for the rest of the race. He seemed to usually catch up to me under brakes, then I would get better speed put of the corners, and so it see sawed but I kept the spot. There was a bit of a gap to the cars in front, so the race was a battle of watching Simone in my mirrors. That was a nice clean race for me.
Race 2 was not so great. I got hit in the rear half way through lap 1, while I had another car right in front of me, which spun me off the track, with another car unable to avoid me as I was sliding. I had to wait for the field before I rejoined near the back of the pack. I managed to get back a couple of positions, and that set up a really good race with Seanus and AB, with Rob in the mix too. Seanus and I swapped positions a few times in some good racing. I eventually clobbered a tyre bundle at T2 which broke my front and back aero and windscreen, but it didn't slow me down too much, just unsettled my rhythm.
It was good close racing, and I'm enjoying the level of difficulty with this car - relatively easy to drive, but you can still screw it up.
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nice car that Porsche :), this week, it will probably suck again next week
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Race 1: Meh
Race 2: Meh, bored, quit.
Unless I find a second or two I think this might be my race summary for the season.
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Great races!!!!!
Qual was not very exciting, for some reasons i could not get into the 28s,disappointing because through the practice week it was relatively easy to drive the porsche in the 28s,.
Rce 1: Great start,360 deegre eye balls rotation for a couples of laps and everything went smooth,very nOice,its a good feeling going through the starts untouched and uninjured,,,,i love it,,,,so much adrenaline!!! An oppurtunistic Wally took advantage of a little early skyrmish between me and another driver passing me beautifully.I knew i had a bit of an edge so i tried to remain calm and collected and see if wally would crack sometimes down the road but no,he did not,i tried to put more pressure in the final laps but he reacted well,also Joe was approaching faster behind me so i welcomed the chequered flag to snap a decent 10th place.
Race 2: After race one i went for a walk,i talked to my wife and kids about my online racing carrer,i had a sip of sambuca and i sat in the porsche ...ready to race!!! Another great start with lots of adrenaline again pumping high.I found myself in 7th position and i was kind of pleased about and soon i tried to keep up with mael nith and kcender but i found this task hard,the other task now was to keep bloody jeremy and Joe at a distance,they were just behind me,so i concentrated even further on those horrible black posts(i love negotiating those Ss by the way :P :P) At this stage i could feel the sweat dripping from my forhead(humid night on the sunshine coast and i forgot the aircon) down my back,and a few times i had to use a paper towel to clean my eyes during the straight(great commitment and great sport this racing!!!) i simply had a ball being chased this time!! Fantastic !!! Jeremy was tough he really put pressure on me and i put pressure on him so much pressure that he cracked open lost it twice the second being that fatal we both had a ball,,,thx Joe!!! :-* :-*,.in the last lap Joe had no chances to pass me....race over 8)
I simply had a ball thx guys,all of you.I mean, getting 10th and 7th in a such tough group in such 2 hard races is always a satisfaction,and yes before the race i gave a warning"Beware of the dogs" here you r,,,,,,,i am a dog,i am dog that never dies,,,never....NEVER!!!!
How Jeremy cracked open...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and is always a huge fun and relief to watch your"enemy" exploding in your mirrors lololol
https://youtu.be/MaROAxqyScA
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Race 1: Meh
Race 2: Meh, bored, quit.
Unless I find a second or two I think this might be my race summary for the season.
Funny mate, great way to sum up a crap night! Just want to apologise again as my internet crashed because of the storms yesterday, still don't have any as Iam using my mobile data on my iPhone to post.
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Yeah my 1st was ok, apart from my self-inflected wound.
The 2nd...I've lost it completely it seems. Early on I've managed to evade all the shenanigans, but that did not last long, and afterwards it was a disaster.
Apologies to everyone I've fucked the night up for.
I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
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Yeah my 1st was ok, apart from my self-inflected wound.
The 2nd...I've lost it completely it seems. Early on I've managed to evade all the shenanigans, but that did not last long, and afterwards it was a disaster.
Apologies to everyone I've fucked the night up for.
I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
Perhaps another GT86 season. You should win for sure!
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Yeah my 1st was ok, apart from my self-inflected wound.
The 2nd...I've lost it completely it seems. Early on I've managed to evade all the shenanigans, but that did not last long, and afterwards it was a disaster.
Apologies to everyone I've fucked the night up for.
I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
Sorry to hear this Bird,i am sure you`ll be ok with some practice. Also Bird,it may be a touch of old age creeping along :-[ :-[ :-[
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I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
I found the car to be very setup dependent. More so than other cars we've raced. Without the right setup its nearly impossible for me to stay on track.
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I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
I found the car to be very setup dependent. More so than other cars we've raced. Without the right setup its nearly impossible for me to stay on track.
Really? A few of us found it was no different to default. At least in times. I'm running full default.
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Really guys??? i don`t have the handling problems you mentioned,sure this porsche is a 500 HP 4 litres 6 pistons and the wheels...spin.
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I have changed barely anything from the default. I made it lower, that's about all.
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Grat and Phil were both working on setups, then at the end of the evening reset to default and did PBs. I then decided to stick with default with pressures :)
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I'm not sure I'm a porsche driver at this point, the car is very unfriendly if you make small mistakes. And I do - due to lack of practice. It almost feels like I'm back to playing iRaping.
I found the car to be very setup dependent. More so than other cars we've raced. Without the right setup its nearly impossible for me to stay on track.
Really? A few of us found it was no different to default. At least in times. I'm running full default.
It must be my driving style then, which is why I did not vote for the VW beetle!
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Setup wise there isnt heaps to change but the car can be made better over bumps, kerbs etc. I made a setup for mugello in the Rooz race but then had to change a few things to make it work here, roll bars ride height but also dropped some rear wing for race 2 and my lap times dropped off but I gained a little speed on the straights which helped add pressure to those I followed. Others seemed to be running higher start pressures I suspect then me as I was much slower earlier but then my car got to qualy pace after 4 or 5 laps and a few others did drop pace off a little later on.
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Sorry to hear this Bird,i am sure you`ll be ok with some practice. Also Bird,it may be a touch of old age creeping along :-[ :-[ :-[
I'm not discounting that possibility either...
Really guys??? i don`t have the handling problems you mentioned,sure this porsche is a 500 HP 4 litres 6 pistons and the wheels...spin.
Nono, it's not that. It's that once it starts to go, it just goes. I can't for the life of me catch it (well, not reliably). I did drift through a few corners yesternight, but I found I need to be able to predict what will happen, I can't react to it - it's too late by then. (like all cars in iRaping, as I mentioned)
I think it's due to the rear engine, mainly. My 86 certainly does not do that - but the 86 is a lot more driver-friendly as a car. It starts to go, you countersteer, ease the throttle a bit, and back you go. :) Except in rain, that can be a lot funnier.
I've talked to a chap driving a porker at Wakefield the other week, and he said that he needs to be careful because it's very tricky to catch the rear once it goes out. But then again, it was a 911 almost as old as me. ;) He said you can rent it, but I dare not to try. I'll try the rental F430 at eastern creek before that... :D
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R1: ok start then a mistake 2nd lap, good racing with Bird and Doobs.
R2: changed brake pressure on pedals a little and seemed to overheat tyres at rear - got up to 10th. Apologies to Wally on the 1st lap nudge in to the chicane a little ambitious on my part. And at the big sweeper - I should have left more room on cold tyres. My apologies.
Otherwise - I'll have to miss Barcelona, but ill be back for Monza - 40kg penalty carries over I assume?
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Race one felt a little guilty holding up Joe and Kcender but had great scraps with both and others.
Did you really? ;D Was good defensive driving, really hard to get by. The main place I was carrying more speed was into the chicane but can't really pass there.
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Race 1: Meh
Race 2: Meh, bored, quit.
Unless I find a second or two I think this might be my race summary for the season.
Funny mate, great way to sum up a crap night! Just want to apologise again as my internet crashed because of the storms yesterday, still don't have any as Iam using my mobile data on my iPhone to post.
:)
It's just frustrating me. Historically I used to be able to be mid pack and for a while it's just been rear field and lucky if I am racing anybody. That plus this never ending fecking summer. I'm still sweating just sitting.
I normally don't quit unless my car is rooted or I'm so far behind it doesn't matter and I'm causing trouble being lapped. Last night I just couldn't be arsed in the end.
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Grat and Phil were both working on setups, then at the end of the evening reset to default and did PBs. I then decided to stick with default with pressures :)
Not exactly: I had a setup I made for Mills and thought it felt good (especially since my tiems were matching Marty and kcender almost, so... well, the setup cannot be that wrong). Then I tried default and was matching my race times plus maybe half a tenth,... but it felt more stable. I elected to race with my Mills setup anyway as I thought I had more experience with it. It was working ok and my crash had nothing to do with it. Just a silly misjudgement while I was trying to push. Funnily enough, of 100+ laps of practice, I hit that thingy once... just once. :(
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Grat and Phil were both working on setups, then at the end of the evening reset to default and did PBs. I then decided to stick with default with pressures :)
Not exactly: I had a setup I made for Mills and thought it felt good (especially since my tiems were matching Marty and kcender almost, so... well, the setup cannot be that wrong). Then I tried default and was matching my race times plus maybe half a tenth,... but it felt more stable. I elected to race with my Mills setup anyway as I thought I had more experience with it. It was working ok and my crash had nothing to do with it. Just a silly misjudgement while I was trying to push. Funnily enough, of 100+ laps of practice, I hit that thingy once... just once. :(
Phil did a PB, you said yours were exactly the same but I couldn't be bothered to type all that, it got the point across ;D
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A night to forget for me :(
Qually didn't go too well. I was running a different setup to practise which I thought would be OK. Also ran this setup in R1.
R1: I started cleanly just keeping out of trouble. after a couple of laps I managed to clip a tyre bundle on the left of the car which gave left side damage and cracked screen. Battled on albeit a bit slowly until I think it was just before half way Bird got up the inside at T1 and gave me a little love tap on the right front wheel (yes Bird I checked the replay ;) ). All fair and nothing in it but the suspension broke and the steering wheel was about 45 degrees off centre and didn't steer too good, so I got to pit and repaired. Came out around the leaders and had to keep moving aside to let them through. Plugged away to the end hoping for more people to have big issues, but sadly .....
R2: Dumped the previous setup and went for defaults with a little less wing.
Got punted up the arse before T1 pushing me into someone else. After T1 I had nowhere to go but crash into someone already involved in the pileup. Front and rear aero was now gone. I guess I could have tried to continue like that but I pitted and repaired everything and my times were much better than R1. Unfortunately again I came out of the pits just in front of the leaders and had blue flags from there until the end of the race.
Next race will be different ;D
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Terrible night Russg,i feel it!!!
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Terrible night Russg,i feel it!!!
Thanks mate :)
It's just the way it happens sometimes. Check my signature ;)
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At least you didn't lose a position while letting the lead group through.. I had no choice.. so many cars and one of them was a car going for position.. dont even know who., just saw my place number drop as this mass pack went through. :-\
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Spent most of prac and a bit of qualy trying to get my pc working, had really bad stuttering which seemed to be caused by my anti virus so lucky i got onto that just before the rave but it was a huge distraction so didnt get much time to learn or setup everything so was happy with my results of 5th in a very close qualy and a 5th and 3rd in the races :) both races i had good pressure battles so was good fun should be a good season hopefully i get my pc running smoother for the next one.