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Title: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Freezer on May 24, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
Any one using one of the new ultra wide 34inch 3440 x 1440 IPS monitors for racing?
I went shopping for 3 screens and then came across these that hover around the $1000 mark.

Pros; wide, no bezels, not to resource hungry, virtual screen splits for work use.
Cons: Price, not quite as wide as triples.
Questions: Will AC support it properly?  Does it give sufficient side view like triples.

example:  http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P (http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P)
Your thoughts.....
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Wally on May 24, 2015, 11:00:20 PM
Well triples are 5760 x 1080, so that's a wider ratio. I imagine you'll see a little more of the sides, but not as much as triples.

Why not get 3 of these? :)
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Rolz on May 25, 2015, 07:46:18 AM
Pretty massive res if ur system can punch it out on 3 :P
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Dick Forrest on May 25, 2015, 08:24:39 AM
Add to cart!
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: StanDaam on May 25, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
That sure looks tasty!!!  :)
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Bird on May 25, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
It's in fact not much wider than a regular one - well, by about 25% only (or ~31% of the old one if you calculating up)
See the aspect ratio:
21:9 vs 16:9 ("full HD")

The triples equate to
3*16 : 9 =  48:9 (!!!)

I've actually got the 1920x1200 triples, it's a few extra pixels, and 16:10 ratio.  So mine are 48:10.

I'm sure I don't need all that - it's nearly a 5:1 ratio (4.8:1 to be exact).
But I'd not go below 3:1 (27:9) ratio, really.  And I'd like it to be 40+ inches.  That I'd change to, potentially.  Although I use these to work (a lot more than to play) and I need the screen real estate.  The bezels I could do without, but no biggie, really.


Edit: ugh, on the "Not resource hungry" front...
3440 x 1440 = 4,953,600 pixels

single:
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

triples:
3x1920x1080 = 6,220,800 pixels


so single:   2mp, 
new wonder:  5mp
triple full HD: 6mp

I'd say it'll be plenty resource hungry...


I'd still get 3 good quality thin-bezel 27" ones instead - for the same price :)
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Freezer on May 25, 2015, 04:33:53 PM
It's in fact not much wider than a regular one - well, by about 25% only (or ~31% of the old one if you calculating up)
See the aspect ratio:
21:9 vs 16:9 ("full HD")

The triples equate to
3*16 : 9 =  48:9 (!!!)

I've actually got the 1920x1200 triples, it's a few extra pixels, and 16:10 ratio.  So mine are 48:10.

I'm sure I don't need all that - it's nearly a 5:1 ratio (4.8:1 to be exact).
But I'd not go below 3:1 (27:9) ratio, really.  And I'd like it to be 40+ inches.  That I'd change to, potentially.  Although I use these to work (a lot more than to play) and I need the screen real estate.  The bezels I could do without, but no biggie, really.


Edit: ugh, on the "Not resource hungry" front...
3440 x 1440 = 4,953,600 pixels

single:
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

triples:
3x1920x1080 = 6,220,800 pixels


so single:   2mp, 
new wonder:  5mp
triple full HD: 6mp
I'd say it'll be plenty resource hungry...

I'd still get 3 good quality thin-bezel 27" ones instead - for the same price :)
I had gone out to look at these - http://www.mwave.com.au/product/aoc-i2777fq-27-5ms-full-hd-hdmi-flicker-free-led-monitor-with-speaker-ab55716 (http://www.mwave.com.au/product/aoc-i2777fq-27-5ms-full-hd-hdmi-flicker-free-led-monitor-with-speaker-ab55716)
but on seeing the physical size, three of them would be a bit like Imax in my office.  Also not convinced by the 27 inch still being 1920x1080 but stretched out. 
Considering 24-25 inch 1920 x 1080 triples might be a better balance between office space and the desired effect.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 25, 2015, 09:13:17 PM
Wouldn't it be weird how the screen wouldn't wrap around you like you can get from angling 2 monitors on the edges of a front monitor?  so you would be looking to the left to see something you would normally see by looking sideways... get me?
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Bird on May 26, 2015, 08:36:58 AM
Wouldn't it be weird how the screen wouldn't wrap around you like you can get from angling 2 monitors on the edges of a front monitor?  so you would be looking to the left to see something you would normally see by looking sideways... get me?
That's a good point. 
Stupid games render the super-wide screens usually with the same distortion parameters - hence the stretching at the edges. 

Altho, again, it's not that wide that curved monitor.  It maybe a barely noticeable effect, there.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Freezer on June 12, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Triple screens arrived yesterday . . . what a difference . . . the amount you can see on track is so much better.  It might be my imagination but it seems the ability to see ahead and pick a line is vastly improved.  Wonder if it will make me any faster!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Bird on June 12, 2015, 10:17:03 AM
Triple screens arrived yesterday . . . what a difference . . . the amount you can see on track is so much better.  It might be my imagination but it seems the ability to see ahead and pick a line is vastly improved.  Wonder if it will make me any faster!!  ;D
That sounds great, mate!
Make sure you set it to a realistic 'window' so you see the track as it should be.  It'll be very unusual first - compared to a single screen - as your perception of speed will go down a notch or two.  But it makes it even easier to find the braking points & the apexes.  You'll get used to it in a few hours and it's well worth that little time IMO.

Good times!
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Wally on June 12, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
Yes, enjoy! It took me a little time fiddling around with FOV, seat position, monitor angles etc until I was happy with it.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Joe on June 12, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
Wish I had the space for a desk and triple monitor setup. I currently sit as close to my 32" TV as I can. :o
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Freezer on June 12, 2015, 02:35:09 PM
Yes, enjoy! It took me a little time fiddling around with FOV, seat position, monitor angles etc until I was happy with it.
After routing cables and mucking around I didn't get much time to have a run on it last night but certainly some adjustments are on the cards to get it right.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Wally on June 12, 2015, 10:42:56 PM
Yes, enjoy! It took me a little time fiddling around with FOV, seat position, monitor angles etc until I was happy with it.
After routing cables and mucking around I didn't get much time to have a run on it last night but certainly some adjustments are on the cards to get it right.
I first tried to put real dimensions in the triple screen app, but it puts you way too close to the dashboard, so I ended up just tweaking the numbers until it subjectively looked right.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Freezer on June 13, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
Yes, enjoy! It took me a little time fiddling around with FOV, seat position, monitor angles etc until I was happy with it.
After routing cables and mucking around I didn't get much time to have a run on it last night but certainly some adjustments are on the cards to get it right.
I first tried to put real dimensions in the triple screen app, but it puts you way too close to the dashboard, so I ended up just tweaking the numbers until it subjectively looked right.
On a slightly different issue, I have my games appearing across 3 screens but certain programs such as Photoshop & Dreamweaver will only go over 3 screens if you maximise them.  I can't get them onto individual full screens.  Firefox etc do it no problem.  Running Win7. Nvidia card.  Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2015, 08:18:06 AM
Yes, enjoy! It took me a little time fiddling around with FOV, seat position, monitor angles etc until I was happy with it.
After routing cables and mucking around I didn't get much time to have a run on it last night but certainly some adjustments are on the cards to get it right.
I first tried to put real dimensions in the triple screen app, but it puts you way too close to the dashboard, so I ended up just tweaking the numbers until it subjectively looked right.
On a slightly different issue, I have my games appearing across 3 screens but certain programs such as Photoshop & Dreamweaver will only go over 3 screens if you maximise them.  I can't get them onto individual full screens.  Firefox etc do it no problem.  Running Win7. Nvidia card.  Any thoughts.

I haven't seen that problem myself, but I don't run that much maximized on my game PC. There are a lot of third party multi-monitor management apps though, which might do the trick.
Title: Re: Ultra Wide Monitors
Post by: Bird on June 13, 2015, 08:41:30 AM
IIRC there's some config item somewhere that sets if apps will see one screen as "full screen" while using surround mode.
Blast me if I know where.

Nowadays, I usually set it up as 3 individual screens ("activate all displays" in driver) when I'm not racing, and only use the "surround" mode when racing.
This is mainly due to the Pinball Fx2 that cannot tolerate the xxx-wide desktop, tho :)
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