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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on February 16, 2017, 08:05:54 AM
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You can vote for more than 1 option!
Option 1 - Carrera Cup - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
Following the regulations of the Australian Carrera Cup series: a mix of sprints and enduros.
Progressive grid - race 2 order set by race 1 finish position.
Option 2 - Supercar Cup
Choose one of the following cars:
- Ferrari 458 Italia
- McLaren MP4-12C
- Nissan GT-R NISMO
- Porsche 911 GT3 RS
- Porsche 911 R
- Porsche 911 Turbo S
- RUF RT12 R
- Lamborghini Gallardo SL
3 x sprints, using best 2 qualifying times for 1st 2 races, race 3 in reverse order of race 2 finish.
You have to swap cars midway through the season.
Option 3 - Mazda MX5 Cup
3 x sprints, using best 2 qualifying times for 1st 2 races, race 3 in reverse order of race 2 finish.
These three options are already up on three of Marty's XGN servers if you want to give the cars a go.
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Will marty be back for this? I usually vote based on spiting him ;D
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I reckon he will be by the time the season starts.
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non really take my fancy so I will not vote and just race what is decided
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I can't see it clearly, but I vote for Phil's avatar. ;)
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its from lasts years gp
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1 more
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I thought it was an old Formula Vee, the front suspension is a give away. ;)
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We need SuperGT!
I just found out, they have BUSES on the track during practice!!!! :o
Doing tours! ???
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Will marty be back for this? I usually vote based on spiting him ;D
I will be back start of March so should be there at some point. I dont mind any option so really dont kind which is raced. 2 of the combos were quite regular on my servers and the mx5 cup I think is good on its own it just didnt go too well with the other japanese cars when it was an option.
Joe you can go whichever then and as always I will race anything. I just dont lie combos where some cars are a clear advantage over others. I also didnt want the f1 last series as I want to be in those for a season and I wasnt a huge fan of the praga so I voted for it while I was away. Seems my vote had more effect then your spite votes. ;)
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The supercar combo is a deliberate mixed bag, all relatively close in performance. Not everyone will be fastest or most comfortable in the same car. Some cars are H shifters, some have flappy paddles. Some have hypercar tyres, some have semislicks. Some have turbos, some don't. Some are easier to drive than others.
Actually, I think I'll make the mid-season car swap mandatory, to mix things up and potentially equalise things more.
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Will marty be back for this? I usually vote based on spiting him ;D
LOL.
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its from lasts years gp
Are you going again this year Phil?
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its from lasts years gp
Are you going again this year Phil?
yep
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I thought it was an old Formula Vee, the front suspension is a give away. ;)
whats up with the suspension, what sort is it
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It's a VW beam axle suspension, that's all. ;)
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Horrible, horrible torsion bars.
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Wally: are we considering timed races? I don't care, to be honest, but would be curious to try once.
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Wally: are we considering timed races? I don't care, to be honest, but would be curious to try once.
Maybe for the Carrera Cup enduro rounds. We tried them last Thursday and it was a bit confusing as the race ended rather abruptly without any warning when you crossed the line. There was no "last lap" warning. What we would try next time is the "one extra lap" server setting, as I assume then you get a last lap warning.
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Wally: are we considering timed races? I don't care, to be honest, but would be curious to try once.
Maybe for the Carrera Cup enduro rounds. We tried them last Thursday and it was a bit confusing as the race ended rather abruptly without any warning when you crossed the line. There was no "last lap" warning. What we would try next time is the "one extra lap" server setting, as I assume then you get a last lap warning.
Yes, we could do the one extra lap setting. It sounds better. Did you also try the extra "cooling down" lap at the end of the race? I did not have a chance to see it yet.
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Wally: are we considering timed races? I don't care, to be honest, but would be curious to try once.
Maybe for the Carrera Cup enduro rounds. We tried them last Thursday and it was a bit confusing as the race ended rather abruptly without any warning when you crossed the line. There was no "last lap" warning. What we would try next time is the "one extra lap" server setting, as I assume then you get a last lap warning.
Yes, we could do the one extra lap setting. It sounds better. Did you also try the extra "cooling down" lap at the end of the race? I did not have a chance to see it yet.
Yes, that happened automatically.
Times races don't make a lot of sense for sprints. A 20 min race, you know it's going to be 8 laps, say. You might as well just make it an 8 lap race.
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I added the McLaren MP4-12C to the supercars.
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Wally: are we considering timed races? I don't care, to be honest, but would be curious to try once.
Maybe for the Carrera Cup enduro rounds. We tried them last Thursday and it was a bit confusing as the race ended rather abruptly without any warning when you crossed the line. There was no "last lap" warning. What we would try next time is the "one extra lap" server setting, as I assume then you get a last lap warning.
Yes, we could do the one extra lap setting. It sounds better. Did you also try the extra "cooling down" lap at the end of the race? I did not have a chance to see it yet.
Yes, that happened automatically.
Times races don't make a lot of sense for sprints. A 20 min race, you know it's going to be 8 laps, say. You might as well just make it an 8 lap race.
agreed. As I said---I was just curious.
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Horrible, horrible torsion bars.
Coil springs are torsion bars!
Allow me to rephrase; Horrible, horrible lateral torsion bars :D
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Evil! Make sure you have your lights on :)
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We need SuperGT!
I just found out, they have BUSES on the track during practice!!!! :o
Doing tours! ???
http://wtf1.co.uk/circuit-safari-lets-take-bus-ride-live-practice-session/ (http://wtf1.co.uk/circuit-safari-lets-take-bus-ride-live-practice-session/)
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We need SuperGT!
I just found out, they have BUSES on the track during practice!!!! :o
Doing tours! ???
http://wtf1.co.uk/circuit-safari-lets-take-bus-ride-live-practice-session/ (http://wtf1.co.uk/circuit-safari-lets-take-bus-ride-live-practice-session/)
That's cool.
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Does AC have a bus mod? ;D
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Does AC have a bus mod? ;D
I've seen some kind of Ford Transit van :)
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Nah, you need at least 60 passengers or you're not maximizing your profits. :P
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Back on topic,
Are you going to add the Macca to the server? ;)
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Back on topic,
Are you going to add the Macca to the server? ;)
Done!
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Nah, you need at least 60 passengers or you're not maximizing your profits. :P
Or you can do the Australian way: serve some crappy wine and a snack, call it "VIP bus," and ask for 800$ a sit on the transit. Plenty of Sydney new rich will love it.
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Bit conflicted now, voted for the mighty RUF but had some really good battles in the public server with the MX5. Don;t think there's going to be a lot of close battles in the supercars.
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Bit conflicted now, voted for the mighty RUF but had some really good battles in the public server with the MX5. Don;t think there's going to be a lot of close battles in the supercars.
I think in general, the slower cars give closer racing, as it's easier to drive them at their limit, and harder to make mistakes.
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Bit conflicted now, voted for the mighty RUF but had some really good battles in the public server with the MX5. Don;t think there's going to be a lot of close battles in the supercars.
I think in general, the slower cars give closer racing, as it's easier to drive them at their limit, and harder to make mistakes.
It seems an unnecessary theory---slow cars give closer racing because the limit is not much faster that driving badly. This seems a much more parsimonious explanation.
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Aahh, it's Satin Black GzeroD. ;)
The first shots look like Frictionless Black (see Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy) ;D
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Parsimonious explanation...........WHAT THE???!!!
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DON'T PANIC! :o
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Bit conflicted now, voted for the mighty RUF but had some really good battles in the public server with the MX5. Don;t think there's going to be a lot of close battles in the supercars.
I think in general, the slower cars give closer racing, as it's easier to drive them at their limit, and harder to make mistakes.
It seems an unnecessary theory---slow cars give closer racing because the limit is not much faster that driving badly. This seems a much more parsimonious explanation.
I had some great racing in the past running supercars in the pub server. They arent that fast and not running full racing slicks more people seem to get closer to the limits. That mx5 can produce close racing but its a car where some may much easier find big chunks of time, its maybe a basic simple car to run mid pack but they may find out they are a second or 2 off the lead pace so it really doesntake it much closer.
The supercars everyone finds the grip limits easier and those that learn not to overdrive it will end up much closer together. The high grip low power mx5 I remember many were much slower then they were in the supercars. Mx5 will be more of a drafty racer though assuming its not only running on very short and tight tracks where the draft is not a big thing.
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I voted for MX5.
Less car setup means the cars will be similar. Even run a fixed setup if possible, that way it's more about driver skill rather than the car.
Also, don't make the races too short. Sprints are ok, but sometimes there is not enough time for recovery if you're caught up in a collision.
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Also, don't make the races too short. Sprints are ok, but sometimes there is not enough time for recovery if you're caught up in a collision.
I'd make the sprints 20 mins.
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Also, don't make the races too short. Sprints are ok, but sometimes there is not enough time for recovery if you're caught up in a collision.
I'd make the sprints 20 mins.
20mins is shorter than they currently are? most seem to be 25-28mins each I thought. I'm not that fond of too many sprints because if someone does cause an accident and you get spun off (or you have an off of any sort) it's too late to really gain enough ground and it seems to ruin too many races for people who give up and quit. If we are going to have sprints I'd like to see it equal to the number of enduros. To me an enduro should be at least 45-60mins race time anything less to me is a sprint.. The longer the race length the more chance change of position would occur with 2 pit stops & a strategy.
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Also, don't make the races too short. Sprints are ok, but sometimes there is not enough time for recovery if you're caught up in a collision.
I'd make the sprints 20 mins.
20mins is shorter than they currently are? most seem to be 25-28mins each I thought. I'm not that fond of too many sprints because if someone does cause an accident and you get spun off (or you have an off of any sort) it's too late to really gain enough ground and it seems to ruin too many races for people who give up and quit. If we are going to have sprints I'd like to see it equal to the number of enduros. To me an enduro should be at least 45-60mins race time anything less to me is a sprint.. The longer the race length the more chance change of position would occur with 2 pit stops & a strategy.
But we also risk the other-way-around problem. If I get involved in a crash in a 20 min sprint, even if I lose 2 minutes, I know in 20 minutes there is a race I want to be in. In a 1 hour race, while you are right you might make up for a 30 seconds problem, what do you do if you are lapped and last with 40 seconds to the second last? Yes, you might gain a position or two, but only because people crash, not because of good racing.
So both formats seem to have pros and cons---qhich I believe is why Wally tries to alternate a bit.
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It depends on how many races we do in a night. 3 races works well as 3 x 20. 2 races is 2 x 30.
Shorter sprints also means you get more chances to redeem yourself in a fresh race, and it bunches up the field 3 times etc.
The MX5 and supercars would be 3 x 20.
The Carrera Cup would be a mixture of 2 x 30 and 60 mins.
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I voted for MX5.
Less car setup means the cars will be similar. Even run a fixed setup if possible, that way it's more about driver skill rather than the car.
Also, don't make the races too short. Sprints are ok, but sometimes there is not enough time for recovery if you're caught up in a collision.
From memory the mx5 and gt3 cup are still fairly limited setup cars. The porsche I ran a server a while back with fixed setups expecting closer racing on the pub server but it made very little difference. Opening the setup I only gained about 1 second at Spa in the car same as many others but still gaps from front to backnof pack were quite large. I do remember some past carrera cup series where it was pretty much arrive and drive.
The cars were all factory prepared and probably pressures and alignment was all that was allowed. Im fairly sure its not like this in the current Australian series but it could be worth a try even though I dont think it would change the drivers order around that much.
The supercars have very little setup to them the mx5 seemed to benefit most from it but it also needed the driver to find how to get the most out of this type of car.
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But we also risk the other-way-around problem. If I get involved in a crash in a 20 min sprint, even if I lose 2 minutes, I know in 20 minutes there is a race I want to be in. In a 1 hour race, while you are right you might make up for a 30 seconds problem, what do you do if you are lapped and last with 40 seconds to the second last? Yes, you might gain a position or two, but only because people crash, not because of good racing.
So both formats seem to have pros and cons---qhich I believe is why Wally tries to alternate a bit.
Neither sprint or enduro will suit everyone. I tend to dislike sprints personally for 2 reasons. 1. being that it seems to create desperation and carelessness because drivers are so badly wanting to get to the front by the first corner/first lap its too often than not causing major carnage.. and 2. Trying to claw your way back in a short period of time is more than just hard work for very little gain. I make up more positions from people crashing and quitting than I do racing, this happens less in a longer race.
I'm happy to compromise, I just don't want to see 2 enduros and 8 sprint races in a season. I think it should be 50/50.
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It seems an unnecessary theory---slow cars give closer racing because the limit is not much faster that driving badly. This seems a much more parsimonious explanation.
parsimonious! I love it! This has bubbled up into my "most favourite words", thanks grat. :-*
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Neither sprint or enduro will suit everyone. I tend to dislike sprints personally for 2 reasons. 1. being that it seems to create desperation and carelessness because drivers are so badly wanting to get to the front by the first corner/first lap its too often than not causing major carnage.. and 2. Trying to claw your way back in a short period of time is more than just hard work for very little gain. I make up more positions from people crashing and quitting than I do racing, this happens less in a longer race.
I'm happy to compromise, I just don't want to see 2 enduros and 8 sprint races in a season. I think it should be 50/50.
For me it makes no difference how many laps there are in a race or what lap I am on. I will try to gain any place I can but do it as clean as possible to avoid contact and damage my car or someone elses. Lap 1 I will be the same as the last lap, mistakes can and do happen so then I just battle on with the same mentality to get back as many spots as I can no matter the lap or position I am in. I still wont try a pass I dont think I can make cleanly no matter who its on be it for position or even lapping someone. I will do this until the end of the race and the final position really has no effect on how clean I will drive.
Those that regularly seem to be in incidents at the start of the race may need to also check their driving in a replay. Sure there are times when its 100% the other guy but most times you can do something to avoid contact and so avoid losing spots.
I think picking who you can race close and who you cant is important. Some guys just dont hit the lines as consistantly so if you give them minimal room in a passing move or in defence its likely they will run into you. It makes no difference if its lap 1 of 5, 25 of 100 or 10 of 10, any time you have contact its going to cost you and the other guy some time so best to try and avoid it from green flag to checkered.
Also I think an enduro is a race with long runs such as a full fuel stint or 2. Not with exaggerated multipliers that turn it into a bunch of short stints put together between forced pit stops just for the sake of having pitstops or to simulate a longer race in a shorter time frame. :)
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Oh please not the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup. I'm already attempting a season in them and they suck :P
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TLDR
I find if I'm racing someone willing to give inside/outside line ALL THE WAY through the corner, I have no issue, and it's fun racing.
If I race 'Lewis Hamilton', who takes the inside AND the outside on exit, there's generally trouble.
Vision is limited in SimRacing, we need to account for that. ;)
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TLDR
I find if I'm racing someone willing to give inside/outside line ALL THE WAY through the corner, I have no issue, and it's fun racing.
If I race 'Lewis Hamilton', who takes the inside AND the outside on exit, there's generally trouble.
Vision is limited in SimRacing, we need to account for that. ;)
And I think I should apologize for a defense with locked front at t1 last night to you, indeed. I have an excuse: was my first attempt at late braking with the ballast---I learned in subsequent laps. It also made me feel a little better it almost happened to you with Wally a few laps earlier. But in any case: sorry and thanks for having taken the patient line and avoid any contact.
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Really?
That actually happened?
I don't remember it but that's my default, try to get through the corner.
I race to the corner, get through it on the side I am, and race to the next corner. ;)
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Com'on there's three and a half Porsches in the Supercar cup. If all the Carrerra Cup guys could change their vote we can all be happy.
What he said. ;)
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It's actually 1200 wide, but obviously there is a column down the left that takes up part of that space....
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Why is this forum so narrow? That last picture is only 1022px wide and still doesn't fit!
I have 3840 pixels to display stuff with but this forum seems to only use 960 of 'em.
The smallest screen I have in the entire house is 1920 and the smallest I have ever owned was 1184.
It's okish in 1900x1200 on my second monitor, it is a tad narrow on this one @ 2160x1440. I don't wanna see it in 4k. I agree it should be 1080p res standard these days.
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Why is this forum so narrow? That last picture is only 1022px wide and still doesn't fit!
I have 3840 pixels to display stuff with but this forum seems to only use 960 of 'em.
The smallest screen I have in the entire house is 1920 and the smallest I have ever owned was 1184.
It's okish in 1900x1200 on my second monitor, it is a tad narrow on this one @ 2160x1440. I don't wanna see it in 4k. I agree it should be 1080p res standard these days.
Don't all web browsers allow you to zoom any page in to use higher res displays, in firefox and google chrome it even remembers the zoom level per page so you only ever have to do it once. I have 2560x1440 and 3180x2160 displays at home and never had issues with the page before. Its been a while since I saw it on these but even on my 2560x1440 mobile it can scale or zoom to fit quite easily so Ive never seen it as an issue.
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
I had a quick look yesterday. There is one line of css for the wrapper width which when I adjusted with dev tools seemed fine for all the pages I tried.
/* over 1600 screens - newer desktops */
@media only screen and (min-width: 1200px) {
#wrapper { width: 1200px; margin: auto; }
}
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I want a Baby Metal, Karate one! 8)
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Never heard of baby metal. I do enjoy my metal but I mostly stick with SOAD.
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Think of Anime metal. ;)
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Never heard of baby metal. I do enjoy my metal but I mostly stick with SOAD.
I used to be a big Metallica fan. Saw them live here in Adelaide back in the dark ages.
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Saw Metallica on their 'Black Tour' and the 'St Anger Tour' (luckily they only played 1 song off St Anger ;) )
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Better than I ever did. 8) ;D
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Saw Metallica on their 'Black Tour' and the 'St Anger Tour' (luckily they only played 1 song off St Anger ;) )
I saw them on their Master of Puppets tour!
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Saw Metallica on their 'Black Tour' and the 'St Anger Tour' (luckily they only played 1 song off St Anger ;) )
I saw them on their Master of Puppets tour!
I didn't think they came here until ....and Justice For All?
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@Bacchulum
I will also need to change your tyre brand to Michelin.
I wonder if you can figure out why?
No.
I can't work out why. :o :-[
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In preparation for a Porsche win....... :)
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when will voting finish
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I can't work out why. :o :-[
The Michelin brothers family moto was 'Nunc Est Bibendum' in honour of the god Bacchus.
Hence the link to your Nick.
Bibendum is also the Michelin Man's proper name.
Nunc Est Bibendum (Now is the time for drinking)
Nice.
I learnt something new. ;)
8)
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when will voting finish
As usual, after the couple of fun runs in the cars.
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I'll save my vote for after we've driven them all, but between the MX-5 and Porsche it would be the MX-5. Did quite a few laps in the Porsche yesterday and it just felt MEH. Quite a lot like the Maserati GT4 season.
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
I had a quick look yesterday. There is one line of css for the wrapper width which when I adjusted with dev tools seemed fine for all the pages I tried.
/* over 1600 screens - newer desktops */
@media only screen and (min-width: 1200px) {
#wrapper { width: 1200px; margin: auto; }
}
Hey Joe, what did you change this to? I found where you can configure this style for the forum.
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
I had a quick look yesterday. There is one line of css for the wrapper width which when I adjusted with dev tools seemed fine for all the pages I tried.
/* over 1600 screens - newer desktops */
@media only screen and (min-width: 1200px) {
#wrapper { width: 1200px; margin: auto; }
}
Hey Joe, what did you change this to? I found where you can configure this style for the forum.
I tried it all the way up to 1900px but I'm on a 4k laptop. I tried the homepage and forums listings and seemed everything else scaled okay.
You could just try putting 90% which will fill most of the width for whatever screen size. I think there was a media query for lower res in that CSS which will take over when it gets lower so mobile should remain the same.
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
I had a quick look yesterday. There is one line of css for the wrapper width which when I adjusted with dev tools seemed fine for all the pages I tried.
/* over 1600 screens - newer desktops */
@media only screen and (min-width: 1200px) {
#wrapper { width: 1200px; margin: auto; }
}
Hey Joe, what did you change this to? I found where you can configure this style for the forum.
I tried it all the way up to 1900px but I'm on a 4k laptop. I tried the homepage and forums listings and seemed everything else scaled okay.
You could just try putting 90% which will fill most of the width for whatever screen size. I think there was a media query for lower res in that CSS which will take over when it gets lower so mobile should remain the same.
I changed the CSS - let me know how it looks.
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Saw Metallica on their 'Black Tour' and the 'St Anger Tour' (luckily they only played 1 song off St Anger ;) )
I saw them on their Master of Puppets tour!
I didn't think they came here until ....and Justice For All?
Yes, that was the one.
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Saw Metallica on their 'Black Tour' and the 'St Anger Tour' (luckily they only played 1 song off St Anger ;) )
I saw them on their Master of Puppets tour!
I didn't think they came here until ....and Justice For All?
Yes, that was the one.
Was starting to think I had Alzheimer's.... :o 8)
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I think this forum's software can be set to a % of browser width, and that would be ideal. The problem with zoom is the attached pictures still need to be scrolled if they are over about 960px wide.
I will take a look at the forum settings (some time).
I had a quick look yesterday. There is one line of css for the wrapper width which when I adjusted with dev tools seemed fine for all the pages I tried.
/* over 1600 screens - newer desktops */
@media only screen and (min-width: 1200px) {
#wrapper { width: 1200px; margin: auto; }
}
Hey Joe, what did you change this to? I found where you can configure this style for the forum.
I tried it all the way up to 1900px but I'm on a 4k laptop. I tried the homepage and forums listings and seemed everything else scaled okay.
You could just try putting 90% which will fill most of the width for whatever screen size. I think there was a media query for lower res in that CSS which will take over when it gets lower so mobile should remain the same.
I changed the CSS - let me know how it looks.
Looks okay from here. Needed to do a CTRL+F5 to overwrite cached CSS.
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As per Marty's suggestion, I have added the Lamborghini Gallardo SL to the supercar mix.
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You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”
wally...............you need a holiday
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You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”
wally...............you need a holiday
What, doesn't that quote please you????
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it did please me a lot mate,but the thing i loved is that is there for a reason,and the reason is that ,probably,,,,probably you r sick and tired of ppl whinging to ya.
But thats the way we like ,we like to know that wally is a wonderful person,caring,dedicated to xgn,to the racing group,always there to put a patch here and there to help others.
...Wally....i loved your signature cause it reveals me that you are a human being.........you r having a gutful of xgn !!!!......Wally you human!!!!!
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LOL Simone. Have another grappa for me :)
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As per Marty's suggestion, I have added the Lamborghini Gallardo SL to the supercar mix.
Thanks Wally sorry for being a pain in the arse about it though lol, id call it jet lag this time but other times I dont know maybe that time of the month or something. ;D
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As per Marty's suggestion, I have added the Lamborghini Gallardo SL to the supercar mix.
Thanks Wally sorry for being a pain in the arse about it though lol, id call it jet lag this time but other times I dont know maybe that time of the month or something. ;D
No worries Marty. You wouldn't be you otherwise ;)
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LOL Simone. Have another grappa for me :)
.....ahahahahaa i was sipping sambuca (true)
sambuca molinari,my father used to sip it...i sip it
https://youtu.be/QML44cm4hH8
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.....ahahahahaa i was sipping sambuca (true)
sambuca molinari,my father used to sip it...i sip it
Is this you sipping. ;D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/XUs5DGOBMwIqTXG4igQjUWi4lmTtA5-pUHrXQZoSVP_gakfQcoy7F2sCHldNsGML9y6MiQ=w220-h165-nc)
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As per Marty's suggestion, I have added the Lamborghini Gallardo SL to the supercar mix.
Thanks Wally sorry for being a pain in the arse about it though lol, id call it jet lag this time but other times I dont know maybe that time of the month or something. ;D
No worries Marty. You wouldn't be you otherwise ;)
When you give in to your kids after they've nagged on and on it just makes them learn that next time all they have to do to get their way is keep going until you cave.... Thought you'd know this Wally ;D ;D
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As per Marty's suggestion, I have added the Lamborghini Gallardo SL to the supercar mix.
Thanks Wally sorry for being a pain in the arse about it though lol, id call it jet lag this time but other times I dont know maybe that time of the month or something. ;D
No worries Marty. You wouldn't be you otherwise ;)
When you give in to your kids after they've nagged on and on it just makes them learn that next time all they have to do to get their way is keep going until you cave.... Thought you'd know this Wally ;D ;D
The Kids arent always wrong though and I dont think Wally is my dad in any case, If this league was run as a true dictatorship then we wouldn't be allowed to post here and there would never be car polls etc. I think giving other people some input and having open discussion about such topics isnt a bad thing, for those that dont really agree maybe they should look into moving to North Korea where if you have even a basic question to the leadership they will simply take into account how many bullets they will waste on your firing quad appointment for even daring to have a non standardized view. ;)
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haahahahahhaah no, if you sip sambuca like that you get killed.
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I tried the 911 cup car at silverstone and its considerably better then it was at mills, so I think I may also vote for that depending on how this weeks test race goes. At Mills that car really didnt feel great, nothing against the track itself as its a well done high quality mod. It just seems the track didnt suit those cars so well for me.
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I think the Carrera Cup 911 has been made with the KS tracks specifcally in mind for use!
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Looking at the 3 fun run gap charts, the Porsche Cup gave the closest racing overall, with a big bunch of cars finishing very close together. The Mazda had similar, but smaller clumps of cars together. The supercars tended to spread out with less close racing (although that may come down to differences in the tracks too, with Spa being longer).
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Bring on the next gt3 cup season to make it 3 seasons in a row of nearly the same thing, good to keep it repetitive guys but at least the Praga was an open wheel season (in a closed cockpit non open wheel single make road/race car) so its not 3 single make cup seasons in gt4 type cars in a row. ::)
Maybe for some variety next season we can do a lotus 211 gt4 (at least thats an open wheel gt4 type car) or bmw 235i season
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bmw 235i season
Not a bad idea actually, still one of my favorite public server cars
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Bring on the next gt3 cup season to make it 3 seasons in a row of nearly the same thing, good to keep it repetitive guys but at least the Praga was an open wheel season (in a closed cockpit non open wheel single make road/race car) so its not 3 single make cup seasons in gt4 type cars in a row. ::)
Maybe for some variety next season we can do a lotus 211 gt4 (at least thats an open wheel gt4 type car) or bmw 235i season
The Praga is a "full carbon track car designed around a composite monocoque, inspired by endurance prototypes". Categorise that as you will :)
The last two Maserati and Praga seasons have been the best attended seasons for some time (since the GT3 season, in fact). Democracy's a bitch!
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The Praga was not an open wheeler in any way shape or form.
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The last two Maserati and Praga seasons have been the best attended seasons for some time (since the GT3 season, in fact). Democracy's a bitch!
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/22ef/buvesa3i8g4gepi6g.jpg) (https://www.mediafire.com/view/?buvesa3i8g4gepi)
Democracy is a bitch none of the 3 top favored future seasons even got into this vote ;)
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I mix up the general class of car too. You know we just had votes including the popular F138 and the Mazda MX5 options.
Please refer to signature :)
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Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017 (Carrera Cup) it is, by a clear majority. Bring it on!
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Nooooooooo!!!!! :'(
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Nooooooooo!!!!! :'(
AHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAA
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Nooooooooo!!!!! :'(
One of my rivals, psychologically beaten before the season even starts...