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Title: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on July 21, 2015, 10:19:15 AM
Hi All,

Anyone using a ButtKicker or an alternative Bass Rumbler?

Looking at getting something like the http://www.thebuttkicker.com/gamer2

Anyone have anything similar?

Rolz  ;D
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Wally on July 21, 2015, 12:50:18 PM
I'm pretty sure Bacchulum has a butt kicker.
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Gratulin on July 21, 2015, 04:23:55 PM
Would it make you faster Rolz? Would you need to go "bare" for enhanced feel?
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Bacchulum on July 21, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
PM sent Rolz.

I have a dusty Buttkicker for free for anyone in Brisbane. ;)
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on July 21, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
I'll take it off ur hands Bacchulum! :P

I'm trying to find the YouTube video I found where you can have transducers at 4 points on the cockpit to simulate the wheels on the track...

When I find it I'll share... not quiet the hydraulic solution, but should help knowing more on where the car it on the road or losing traction?



Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Phil.8 on July 23, 2015, 10:07:51 PM
been thinking of getting one for my new rig. 
whats the difference between these 2 , and do you need to buy anything else.

http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-products/buttkicker-gamer-71.html
http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-products/buttkicker-simulation-kit.html
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on July 24, 2015, 08:40:54 AM
I haven't had a chance to look into it further, but will do this weekend...

I knew I should have at least written down the name of the kit where you can focus sounds to devices to avoid the whole one rattle for all.
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Phil.8 on July 25, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
After some reading I have learnt that the amps that come with buttkicker are not very good and only run 1 BK.  From what understand it is a better option to buy an amp and add these or what ever sort you want http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-products/buttkicker-mini-lfe.html

Will run 4 BK -   http://www.expressav.com.au/audio-amplifiers/power-amplifiers/art-sla-1-studio-linear-amplifier.html
or the following will run 2 BK and is probably the better option if you wanted to run 4 as you can just buy 1 amp and 1 vBK to start off with, initial cost is a little mote that the BK sim kit and more the BK gamer2 but in the long run is cheaper if you wanted to add more than 1   

Order of Bestness
https://www.videoguys.com.au/Shop/p/25544/behringer-inuke-nu1000-1000-watt-power-amplifier-benu1000.html
http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/dayton-audio-apa150-stereo-mono-power-amplifier/
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281653299246?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

with this sort of setup you can add more as you please or even use differnt brands such as http://www.parts-express.com/clark-synthesis-tst209-tactile-transducer-bass-shaker--300-861
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on August 10, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
Ok update on my side...

bought 4 transducers... cheaper than butt-kicker and supposedly 2nd best in market... in any case a good see how it all works.

http://www.parts-express.com/aurasound-ast-2b-4-pro-bass-shaker-tactile-transducer--299-028

then an amp to run them
http://www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-4x100w-at-4-ohm-class-d-digital-audio-amplifier-board-sta508-%28tk2050%29--320-335
inc psu
http://www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-24-vdc-6a-145w-regulated-switching-power-supply--320-314

Will have to get some sort of mounting brackets for the transducers, build a box for the amp and psu...

Than a 2nd sound card - only splashed out on a USB sound card - once again see how the concept works.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171160278839

and lastly bought simvibe http://simxperience.com/en-us/products/simvibe/simvibesoftware.aspx to control what sound goes to what transducer...

Parts are on order... will let you know what it's like when I get the bits and hopefully put it together correctly  ;D
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Phil on August 11, 2015, 06:41:32 AM
Rolz, go get the simvibe software it's the best software you can buy from simexperience site. The transducsers are one thing but with the software they now read the game data and the bumps are super accurate and the feeling is greatly enhanced it's a must have if you have transducers.
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Wally on August 11, 2015, 07:35:53 AM
I'm glad you know what you're doing Rolz!
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on August 17, 2015, 08:13:03 AM
Well another update

Got the bass transducers in on Friday but not the amp, but it didn't deter me from mounting them on the chassis.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2e57cr4.jpg)

Took one trip to Bunnings and one trip to my parents place to raid the shed for strips of wood and an old bicycle tire inner tube.
The wood helped mount it and the rubber helped make sure I wasn't going to get any metal vibrations if it wasn't tight enough.

Sunday I got too impatient so I bought an old amp off Gumtree for $100 and then hooked it all up.  :)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2lwoker.jpg)

For AC as the drivers are still in beta I get awesome engine noise, but not much else.  :-\

I tried LFS since that was also supported and that was very cool... impacts are great, gear changes feel cool, but as it' also has limited sensors I don't get the wheels sensation. I see iRacing does so I might have to download that and give it ago.

Overall it has some serious potential, but feels underdone... will report back if they improve AC support...  ;D
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Wally on August 17, 2015, 08:19:23 AM
That's a serious rig!
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on August 17, 2015, 08:25:42 AM
That's a serious rig!
Thanks Wally :)
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 17, 2015, 11:23:06 AM
Wow.  That puts my 20 year old wooden desk, single monitor, and office chair to shame.

How much do you think the whole rig has cost?  Or not if you don't want to say. :)
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Joe on August 17, 2015, 11:25:08 AM
Triple monitors do look pretty awesome! I'll have one of these rigs one day, once my kids are grown up and moved out so that I have the space  ;D
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Wally on August 17, 2015, 11:42:35 AM
Triple monitors do look pretty awesome! I'll have one of these rigs one day, once my kids are grown up and moved out so that I have the space  ;D
That's how it worked for me ;)
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on August 17, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
Wow.  That puts my 20 year old wooden desk, single monitor, and office chair to shame.

How much do you think the whole rig has cost?  Or not if you don't want to say. :)

Dammit... and here I was thinking you were plugged in Matrix style for your alien skillz... goes to show you can't throw money at talent or skill.  :'(

Cost of the setup is still heaps cheaper than being a car enthusiast and dumping money into that.

All the crashes cost digital ego credits and limp to pits or worse an exit to pits.

 ;D
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 17, 2015, 12:31:09 PM
I'm still waiting to see whether I go for Oculus Rift or triple monitors...

That setup must be immersion plus though.  A lot of fun by the looks.
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Wally on August 17, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
VR is definitely the future, once the software supports it properly.
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Joe on August 17, 2015, 01:25:13 PM
I'm still waiting to see whether I go for Oculus Rift or triple monitors...

Yeah I've also been thinking that, could be amazing, then I'm all good with the pretty simple stand I already have, and can just get one of the race style office chairs and sit anywhere  8)
Title: Re: Cockpit bass shaker
Post by: Rolz on August 17, 2015, 05:59:39 PM
Yeah I had the DK2 and for LFS it was very well done support was tops.

For AC the resolution wasn't sharp enough for me... plus you really want some sort of HUD.
Well I do anyway.

Being in the car was epic, but you still want to see laptimes, fuel/laps left

I sold it and went back to 3 screens and then bought the desk/cockpit.

I'm waiting to see what AC puts in as proper support as off the forums it was half hearted... but that was 3+months ago...
Might have changed since then.

BTW - got the Beta of simvibe commander 4 and AC support is awesome. Just have to work out how to add rear traction loss, but feeling the road and ripple strips through the chair feels amazing...

 ;D
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