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Title: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: rooshooter on April 02, 2016, 10:38:35 AM
This is what I pay iiNet per month for my internet service.
NBN Fibre 2 (50/20)
 - User Name: lenore9
Monthly Charge
$84.90
Billed period: 01 MAR 2016 - 01 APR 2016
Internet Total
$84.90
Plus $10 per month for a voip to mobile phone service.
I live in Coffs Harbour where the NBN was initially rolled out. I have optic fibre into my unit (no copper wire).
My connection is in theory 50/20 MBS which is verified  using online speed tests. However the the best download speed
I have ever experienced is 5MBS from any location. A large file download TEST will give me 10MBS. I constantly experience
buffering with ABC iview and SBS.  Netflix is always  OK even with HD movies. I have been content to put up with the status quo
as online experience has always been excellent until last Thursday night. I had a disconnect from the server and then Teamspeak
I rejoined and was again disconnected but managed to join last race but without Teamspeak.
I am sure iiNet is using some form throttling to overcome the unmetered use of Netflix and lack of bandwith!!
My download limit on this package is  1terabyte/month.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Phil.8 on April 02, 2016, 10:53:51 AM
That seems pretty poor
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Rolz on April 02, 2016, 12:55:17 PM
Can you do same tests through a vpn?

Does sound crap
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 02, 2016, 01:06:50 PM
Can you fix your measurements? I'm not sure if you talk about mb/s or mB/s. I' in internode, btw, and on a 100/40. It's all TPG btw, sadly.

But I seldom see servers capable of serving files at decent speeds.  Friend on dodo has the same experience.  Just sayin' :)
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bacchulum on April 02, 2016, 01:57:37 PM
I can tell you what Telstra NBN is like on the 15th.
(hopefully better than that  :( )
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 02, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
Can you do same tests through a vpn?

Does sound crap
What should that achieve? 

I'm using a VPN regularly for daily browsing, it slows thing down a bit as expected.  Especially pings, but downloads as well.
Speed tests will give you weird results, though. 
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Rolz on April 02, 2016, 02:17:41 PM
Dunno if it's a throttle per site... I see my users trying to use it to get around my limitations on sites :)
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 02, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
Rooshooter I just ditched Internode because their service has become so unreliable.  They used to be one of, if not the best ISP when it came to quality service, but since being taken over by iiNet things have steadily gone down hill to the point where over the last 6 months congestion, download speeds from single clients and reliability have been terrible.

So my advice is to vote with your wallet and jump ship to an ISP that you know provides a good service.  That's the only way ISP's that adopt this model will learn.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: rooshooter on April 02, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
Thankyou everybody for you suggestions, I think I will take Guybrush's advice and vote with my feet.
Btw Bird I was talking " millions of bits per second"  . Just for info ,the copper network in the Coffs Harbour region
has been decommissioned.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 02, 2016, 05:32:54 PM
Cool. I am interested in what choices you guys recommend. I don't want to sign long contracts though so maybe skymesh? Who are you with gb?
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 02, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
Cool. I am interested in what choices you guys recommend. I don't want to sign long contracts though so maybe skymesh? Who are you with gb?

I've gone with a smaller provider called Aussie Broadband for two reasons:  1)  I know quite a few people, as well as our organisation, that are with them and speak very highly of them.  This also reflects what I've found from users online, and 2) I can get Naked ADSL which is $50 for 100 gig vs. the $80 for 60 gig I was paying for at Internode (although Netflix is un-metered with Internode, but for an extra $10 with ABB I can get 300 gig total) .

Now I've only put my order in yesterday to switch, so the switch itself hasn't happened yet (will be within the month).  But I will report back on how ABB are as an ISP when the switch is flicked.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 02, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
I wish you the best - altho I'm not sure your speed problems were internode-based, it's possible.
Have you tried to get their support to help?  I've found that they're very nice and helpful, they can change profiles, etc, whatever is within their limits.
They can't change the copper, nor get rid of congestions at the node point, though. That was my problem earlier on ADSL.


Edit: and the reason I'm on a monthly sub with them; it's getting clearer and clearer that TPG will run these two into the ground (iinet and internode) so I'll need to switch, too.  Looksie here:
https://delimiter.com.au/2016/04/01/internode-sets-first-ever-offshore-call-centre/

The problem being; there's no fucking alternative.  TPG, Optus, Telstra, Dodo - seriously?!?
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Wally on April 02, 2016, 06:28:33 PM
I get 1,200 GB for $80 with Internode!
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: AJ on April 02, 2016, 08:52:33 PM
I get unlimited data on Optus cable and I have the 100Mbit speed pack, but since Netflix launched in April last year, 5pm-midnight every week night and most of the time on Saturdays I'm only getting a fraction of what I'm paying for. It's disappointing, but DSL is garbage and Telstra don't have cable here.

Funny what GB says about things going to shit with Internode after iiNet took over. Years ago I worked for OzEmail and then iiNet took over there and things went to shit working for them as well. Not that it was fantastic before, but they turned a bag of shit into a truckload.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 02, 2016, 09:20:02 PM
I wish you the best - altho I'm not sure your speed problems were internode-based, it's possible.
Have you tried to get their support to help?  I've found that they're very nice and helpful, they can change profiles, etc, whatever is within their limits.
They can't change the copper, nor get rid of congestions at the node point, though. That was my problem earlier on ADSL.


Edit: and the reason I'm on a monthly sub with them; it's getting clearer and clearer that TPG will run these two into the ground (iinet and internode) so I'll need to switch, too.  Looksie here:
https://delimiter.com.au/2016/04/01/internode-sets-first-ever-offshore-call-centre/

The problem being; there's no fucking alternative.  TPG, Optus, Telstra, Dodo - seriously?!?

In my case it's a win either way.  If the problem is my end/exchange end then the service I get can't be any worse plus I'm saving $30 a month.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 04, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
I've just had a bit of a look-around.
It seems that the NBN-fiber market is much nicer than the ADSL was.
Nearly all providers have month-to-month subs, most does not charge any up-front fee (Telstra of course does, and a lot at that; and I could not even find month-to-month sign-up option at Optus).

Skymesh, Dodo, TPG, you can just start using it without any subscription fees.  Just sign up, get connected on one of your ports, and done.  In fact you could run multiple connections simultaneously (up to 4 I think).

I might just try some hopping around to see what's it like...altho 'node is OK, they've just increased my plan's limit to 500GB/month, too.
If anything, Skymesh's 100/100 looks interesting, but what for, really...and it's expensive.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bacchulum on April 04, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
most does not charge any up-front fee (Telstra of course does......
Telstra didn't cost me a cent up front. :-\
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 04, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
I've just had a bit of a look-around.
It seems that the NBN-fiber market is much nicer than the ADSL was.
Nearly all providers have month-to-month subs, most does not charge any up-front fee (Telstra of course does, and a lot at that; and I could not even find month-to-month sign-up option at Optus).

Skymesh, Dodo, TPG, you can just start using it without any subscription fees.  Just sign up, get connected on one of your ports, and done.  In fact you could run multiple connections simultaneously (up to 4 I think).

I might just try some hopping around to see what's it like...altho 'node is OK, they've just increased my plan's limit to 500GB/month, too.
If anything, Skymesh's 100/100 looks interesting, but what for, really...and it's expensive.

I'd imagine there is no need to have a technician turn on or off ports etc. with fibre?
I'd definitely be on fibre if I could, but it's not available to me. :(
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: slideways on April 04, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
Same here Guy. I live 6mins from the CBD and stuck in an area that that they pulled their trucks out of when Kev '07 announced his great plan. They left 5 streets not done in the whole area. Even got the guy wire up ready to hang that beautiful cable. No chance they'll get back here til the end...sigh.. :'(
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 04, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
most does not charge any up-front fee (Telstra of course does......
Telstra didn't cost me a cent up front. :-\
On the month-to-month "no subscription" option they quoted a hefty amount on their site.  No loss for me, I'd never consider Telstra, it's overpriced and there's no network reason (like with a mobile phone) to go with them.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Bird on April 04, 2016, 06:25:03 PM
I've just had a bit of a look-around.
It seems that the NBN-fiber market is much nicer than the ADSL was.
Nearly all providers have month-to-month subs, most does not charge any up-front fee (Telstra of course does, and a lot at that; and I could not even find month-to-month sign-up option at Optus).

Skymesh, Dodo, TPG, you can just start using it without any subscription fees.  Just sign up, get connected on one of your ports, and done.  In fact you could run multiple connections simultaneously (up to 4 I think).

I might just try some hopping around to see what's it like...altho 'node is OK, they've just increased my plan's limit to 500GB/month, too.
If anything, Skymesh's 100/100 looks interesting, but what for, really...and it's expensive.

I'd imagine there is no need to have a technician turn on or off ports etc. with fibre?
I'd definitely be on fibre if I could, but it's not available to me. :(
No, you simply have 4 ports on the modem, plug the wire into whichever is active - even multiple.  It's far better, as I said, compared to ADSL. No churn is needed.
Title: Re: Why NBN and iiNet are a joke.
Post by: Rolz on April 04, 2016, 07:39:09 PM
Here I am willing to dig the trench all the way to the exchange to get fibre... and I'm in a rental  :'(
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