« previous next » Print Pages: 1 2 3 ... 6 Author Topic: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat (Read 40521 times) Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11035 Karma: 152 AC Admin S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « on: January 31, 2017, 11:34:53 PM » 2 x 19 laps at Red Bull Ring.You will need the OSRW PIT MOD if you don't already have it. Unzip the download into your Steam assettocorsa folder.Penalty Ballast (60kg)RussGHandicap (Success) BallastBecause the pit stop delay isn't working reliably all the time, I'm going to switch to a cumulative success ballast, similar to how the pit stop hold accumulates, based on the previous overall round results as follows:Round Results:1st = +45 kg2nd = +30 kg3rd = +15 kg4th = -15 kg5th = -30 kg6th and lower = -45 kgSo success ballast (for both races of this round, based on the overall round results at Spa), is as follows:1. Kcender87, 45kg (he wasn't at Spa, but if he was, he would have probably won the round)2. Phil.8, 30 kg3. Diehard, 15 kg « Last Edit: February 05, 2017, 09:59:35 AM by Wally » Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” grat Hero Member Posts: 1174 Karma: 16 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 12:07:32 AM » Quote from: Wally on January 31, 2017, 11:34:53 PM1. Kcender87, 60kg (he wasn't at Spa, but if he was, he would have probably won the round)Ahahahaahah! Logged grat Hero Member Posts: 1174 Karma: 16 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 12:10:55 AM » @Wally: have you thought about grid penalties instead of ballast (you know I am not a fan of ballast since the FR3.5 season )?Something like this:1st = +3 positions2nd = +2 positions3rd = +1 position4th = -1 position5th = -2 positions6th and lower = -3 positionsIt seems simple enough and avoids the issue of having to set up the car differently at every single race. Logged Joe Hero Member Posts: 2368 Karma: 39 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 12:13:36 AM » Not a fan of ballast either. Maybe those with issues with the app could try a full reinstall of the app and reapply the wally patch? I've had no issues at all with it. Logged grat Hero Member Posts: 1174 Karma: 16 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 12:16:13 AM » Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 12:13:36 AMNot a fan of ballast either. Maybe those with issues with the app could try a full reinstall of the app and reapply the wally patch? I've had no issues at all with it.Did that already when---during the week---the app did not work on the practice server. Unfortunately the problem seems to be a bit deeper than that. Logged Joe Hero Member Posts: 2368 Karma: 39 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 12:23:50 AM » Or just take the time that would be used as a pit handicap and deduct it from the qually time? Or is thos just making more dev work for you wally Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11035 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 07:57:09 AM » Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 12:23:50 AMOr just take the time that would be used as a pit handicap and deduct it from the qually time? Or is thos just making more dev work for you wally From the race time, you mean? That's a bit artificial then. The point of handicaps and ballast is to put the front runners back into the field so they have to work a bit harder (and probably have more fun in the process!). Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” grat Hero Member Posts: 1174 Karma: 16 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 08:06:58 AM » Quote from: Wally on February 01, 2017, 07:57:09 AMQuote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 12:23:50 AMOr just take the time that would be used as a pit handicap and deduct it from the qually time? Or is thos just making more dev work for you wally From the race time, you mean? That's a bit artificial then. The point of handicaps and ballast is to put the front runners back into the field so they have to work a bit harder (and probably have more fun in the process!).I am pretty sure he meant from the quali time. So it is similar to my idea, but a little more complicated. Instead of adding grid positions, you add time to your best quali lap(s).I still think the grid penalty would be the easiest to implement (though I know nothing of the code implementation issue) and an elegant solution that does not require spending a day to redo the setup every week. Logged Joe Hero Member Posts: 2368 Karma: 39 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 08:55:09 AM » Yeah i meant qually time but no idea how hard for you to implement. Say i did a 2:25, add my 6 second handicap to that making it a 2:31 and place me on the grid based on that time. Logged grat Hero Member Posts: 1174 Karma: 16 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 08:58:07 AM » Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:55:09 AMYeah i meant qually time but no idea how hard for you to implement. Say i did a 2:25, add my 6 second handicap to that making it a 2:31 and place me on the grid based on that time.Well, maybe I would scale down those 6 seconds.... 6 seconds in quali is not 6 seconds in race... Logged Joe Hero Member Posts: 2368 Karma: 39 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 09:01:49 AM » Quote from: grat on February 01, 2017, 08:58:07 AMQuote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 08:55:09 AMYeah i meant qually time but no idea how hard for you to implement. Say i did a 2:25, add my 6 second handicap to that making it a 2:31 and place me on the grid based on that time.Well, maybe I would scale down those 6 seconds.... 6 seconds in quali is not 6 seconds in race...It was just an example Logged Phil.8 RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 4158 Karma: 62 Δ8 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 09:29:15 AM » Quote from: grat on February 01, 2017, 12:07:32 AMQuote from: Wally on January 31, 2017, 11:34:53 PM1. Kcender87, 60kg (he wasn't at Spa, but if he was, he would have probably won the round)Ahahahaahah!wally has faith is us lol Logged The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11035 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 09:58:03 AM » Quote from: Phil.8 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:15 AMQuote from: grat on February 01, 2017, 12:07:32 AMQuote from: Wally on January 31, 2017, 11:34:53 PM1. Kcender87, 60kg (he wasn't at Spa, but if he was, he would have probably won the round)Ahahahaahah!wally has faith is us lol We know he's fast. I didn't want him to get off scot free because he missed a round. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Joe Hero Member Posts: 2368 Karma: 39 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 10:02:11 AM » We need GB to come back and put him in his place Logged Mael RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 1045 Karma: 21 Re: S15R5: Red Bull Ring Race Chat « Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 11:23:39 AM » Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2017, 12:23:50 AMOr just take the time that would be used as a pit handicap and deduct it from the qually time? Or is thos just making more dev work for you wally Or maybe simplify it by banning pitconfig and having a counter appear onscreen. Driver is not allowed to select pit options until counter shows 0? 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